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Manforallseasons
February 25th, 2021, 08:45
https://pattayaone.news/thailand-to-scrap-its-two-week-mandatory-quarantine-for-foreign-visitors-with-proof-of-covid-19-vaccination/


Thailand may scrap its two-week mandatory quarantine for foreign visitors with proof of Covid-19 vaccination as the Southeast Asian nation seeks to revive its pandemic-hit tourism industry.

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha said on Tuesday his government will consider allowing visitors who can produce a vaccination certificate to skip the quarantine and authorities will come up with a plan to track them during their stay in the country.

The plan to ease rules for tourists signal a shift in Thailand’s stance after months of insisting all visitors must stay in quarantine in the absence of enough evidence that inoculations can prevent virus transmission.

If implemented, the move could bolster Thailand’s tourism sector that contributed about one-fifth to the nation’s pre-pandemic economy.

Armando
February 25th, 2021, 08:51
Another misleading headline from MFAS who cannot be bothered to give even a simple and accurate summary of what he posts. The key which he omits is that the removal of quarantine is for those who have been vaccinated! Don’t be so lazy MFAS!

arsenal
February 25th, 2021, 09:16
The best news I've read since MFAS "Fresh Meat at Nice Boys" post.

cdnmatt
February 25th, 2021, 09:19
Unfortunately, even if implemented, this probably wouldn't result in the huge boost to tourism that they're hoping for.

It'll be a while before the majority are comfortable enough just to hop on a plane for a quick two week holiday, because hey, why not again.

arsenal
February 25th, 2021, 09:45
Are you serious! The vaccinated Brits would hop on a plane to war torn Sarajevo if they were allowed to.

StevieWonders
February 25th, 2021, 09:53
Unfortunately, even if implemented, this probably wouldn't result in the huge boost to tourism that they're hoping for.

It'll be a while before the majority are comfortable enough just to hop on a plane for a quick two week holiday, because hey, why not again.At the moment some governments - China, Australia, NZ, Taiwan and possibly Korea - restrict their residents from travel except under limited circumstances. I don’t imagine screwing prostitutes would currently figure as an allowable reason for travel. There are also countries (some of the above) who currently insist on paid quarantine for all returning residents. I would be holding my breath until there’s some loosening of arrangements bilaterally - especially as the Chinese are the ones Thailand is currently hoping will be the driver for mass tourism.

Dodger
February 25th, 2021, 10:05
Another misleading headline from MFAS who cannot be bothered to give even a simple and accurate summary of what he posts. The key which he omits is that the removal of quarantine is for those who have been vaccinated! Don’t be so lazy MFAS!

You could have thanked the OP for posting the article instead of criticizing him.

It goes without saying that vaccinations are going to be required when and if they lift the quarantine restrictions. Did you really have to have someone spell that out for you?

Why don't you try posting something of interest yourself, versus sitting back on your lazy ass and criticizing someone who does.

Just a thought!

goji
February 25th, 2021, 12:28
The MFAS headline includes the words "likely to", so is actually a more accurate headline than the headline in Pattaya One.

The PM says Thailand will consider removing the quarantine period for people with proof of vaccination.

As vaccination is not 100% effective at stopping transmission, this would allow people to import cove to Thailand. So it would be inconsistent with previous covid policy.
Once Thailand has vaccinated all it's own over 50s, scrapping quarantine makes sense.

dinagam
February 25th, 2021, 13:12
All well and good for Thailand and the tourism industry as long as the authority is able to weed out the genuine from the fake vaccination certificate / passport. I hope the pandemic will dissipate in the coming months.

Armando
February 25th, 2021, 14:47
You could have thanked the OP for posting the article instead of criticizing him.

It goes without saying that vaccinations are going to be required when and if they lift the quarantine restrictions. Did you really have to have someone spell that out for you?
Why? Look back over many threads of recent months. There have been endless schemes to open up tourism, all without a vaccine. Or perhaps you failed to notice them.

Besides, why should posters read a full link when the main point can be condensed into one brief sentence and save everyone from reading it? Links are for verification - not for providing those main points.

Dodger
February 25th, 2021, 18:22
Besides, why should posters read a full link when the main point can be condensed into one brief sentence and save everyone from reading it? Links are for verification - not for providing those main points.

Not to belabor this, but so many of the articles published over here are lacking fact and totally subjective in nature - leaving it up to the reader to interpret the content the best he can. PattayaOne and PattayaMail newspapers are notorious for jumping the gun and reporting on covid and tourist policy changes before they're even confirmed which always creates a ton of confusion.

I, for one, appreciate the fact that MFAS posted the article. I also believe that being courteous to each other goes a lot farther than putting each other down at the drop of a dime.

Your an interesting guy when you want to be - so lighten up and just be yourself.

Blueskytoday
February 25th, 2021, 20:54
Oh dear,,they will TRACT me...the bars,,,,the sauna,,,the massage house.....my every move.....are there NO secrets left..

Oliver2
February 25th, 2021, 21:22
We've had a year of bad news and now, at last, there appears to be light at the end of the tunnel. So thanks MFAS for sending me to bed last night with a song in my heart. Well, almost.

If there is the possibility that we can meet our beloveds or our money boys, whichever is more appropriate, I want to hear about it. And we are all old and wise enough ((at least old enough) to appreciate that things could easily change for the worse.

So this morning I phoned EVA Air and was told that they hope to restart LHR-BKK flights in April.

StevieWonders
February 26th, 2021, 03:01
Oh dear,,they will TRACT me...the bars,,,,the sauna,,,the massage house.....my every move.....are there NO secrets left..Get yourself an iPhone and under “Privacy” turn “Location Services” off. There are other settings at the App level that generally allow more granular settings such as using an approximate rather than a specific location. If you’re using an Android phone then the old Spartacus acronym applies - AYOR

dab69
February 26th, 2021, 04:17
Outstanding news. MFAS deserves a big hug from some fresh meat. Especially since I just got vaccinated a couple weeks ago!

arsenal
February 26th, 2021, 07:57
Blue sky write.
"Oh dear,,they will TRACT me...the bars,,,,the sauna,,,the massage house.....my every move.....are there NO secrets left"

steviewonders wrote.
"Get yourself an iPhone and under “Privacy” turn “Location Services” off. There are other settings at the App level that generally allow more granular settings such as using an approximate rather than a specific location. If you’re using an Android phone then the old Spartacus acronym applies - AYOR"

Gosh I miss Pattaya steviewonders, henceforth known as GIMP.

wingnut
February 26th, 2021, 12:50
Oh dear,,they will TRACT me...the bars,,,,the sauna,,,the massage house.....my every move.....are there NO secrets left..We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.

Oliver2
February 26th, 2021, 14:15
i am prepared to jump through any number of hoops to get back. For heaven's sake, many of us are getting on in years and I, for one, wish to spend my declining years as outrageously as possible..

goji
February 26th, 2021, 15:36
i am prepared to jump through any number of hoops to get back. For heaven's sake, many of us are getting on in years and I, for one, wish to spend my declining years as outrageously as possible..

The opportunity was there for most of us back in December. As far as I know, Thailand still lets people in with quarantine.
That's a fair trade for 3 or 4 months holiday. Of course, if you live in one of the prison states that doesn't let people out (North Korea, UK, Australia etc), then it might be necessary to concoct some business justification to escape.

StevieWonders
February 26th, 2021, 15:47
Of course, if you live in one of the prison states that doesn't let people out (North Korea, UK, Australia etc), then it might be necessary to concoct some business justification to escape.If only their old folk had done the decent thing and lined up to die Thailand might welcome their citizens as well, right.

Dodger
February 26th, 2021, 18:44
Of course, if you live in one of the prison states that doesn't let people out (North Korea, UK, Australia etc), then it might be necessary to concoct some business justification to escape.

I wonder if volunteering to contribute to the Sex Industry GDP would suffice?

I don't even know what the status is in the U.S. now. Did they open up any flights to Thailand yet?

christianpfc
February 26th, 2021, 19:39
Outstanding news. MFAS deserves a big hug from some fresh meat. Especially since I just got vaccinated a couple weeks ago!
The key words are "may" in the article, or "likely" in the title of this thread. I would not get my hopes up until something is approved and running. See the botched STV last autumn.

Nirish guy
February 26th, 2021, 19:51
More importantly perhaps without their own population being vaccinated yet and most other Countries also not having a full vaccination policy in place why WOULD they want to allow free entry with no quarantine now !? Surely prudence should still be the watch word for them or am I missing something ( aside from their economy tanking of course ?)

Oliver2
February 26th, 2021, 20:56
Votes perhaps? The government is in disarray following guilty verdicts a couple of days ago for some of the Yellow-Shirt thugs who led the insurrection against Yingluck's elected government. Some of them were active cabinet members of the current junta, or government if you prefer.

If the trough is emptying of cash and big business is being difficult, the Generals may be prepared to give-in. And damn the medical consequences.

dab69
February 27th, 2021, 02:31
Didn't Dr. Fauci say something about vaccines now believed to limit transmission of the virus lately?
Trying to keep upbeat about this...

Not that there is much to go back for.
But plenty to support. Promises to be kept to friends.

StevieWonders
February 27th, 2021, 02:51
Votes perhaps? The government is in disarray following guilty verdicts a couple of days ago for some of the Yellow-Shirt thugs who led the insurrection against Yingluck's elected government. Some of them were active cabinet members of the current junta, or government if you prefer.

If the trough is emptying of cash and big business is being difficult, the Generals may be prepared to give-in. And damn the medical consequences.I do look forward to a good laugh. The Generals here are as likely to take note of a popular vote as those other thugs in your personal favourite capital city, Ramallah. How are the plans for Gay Pride Ramallah coming along? This decade? This century?

StevieWonders
February 27th, 2021, 02:58
More importantly perhaps without their own population being vaccinated yet and most other Countries also not having a full vaccination policy in place why WOULD they want to allow free entry with no quarantine now !? Surely prudence should still be the watch word for them or am I missing something ( aside from their economy tanking of course ?)Surely the assumption is obvious. Letting only vaccinated tourists in should in theory pose little threat to the population of Thailand. There’s some threat because no vaccine is 100% effective but their proposal to record where tourists go by way of an App could mitigate the risk of a widespread breakout.

Thailand has the same problem in opening up that all of the countries currently locked down have. They cannot stay locked down for years, so what’s the acceptable level of risk and how will the inevitable “spot fire” breakouts be managed.

dab69
February 27th, 2021, 04:40
Here is an article I was thinking of:

Pfizer vaccine can reduce transmission after 1 dose, new study finds

..."the Pfizer vaccine not only provides protection against becoming ill from SARS-CoV-2 but also helps prevent infection, reducing the potential for the virus to be passed on to others,” said Dr. Mike Weekes, an infectious-diseases specialist, who led the study.

This suggests a fourfold decrease in the risk of asymptomatic COVID-19 infection among healthcare workers who have been vaccinated for more than 12 days, said the researchers, with the level of infection halved for those vaccinated less than 12 days. The study hasn’t been peer reviewed."



https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/pfizer-vaccine-can-reduce-transmission-after-1-dose-new-study-finds/ar-BB1e2MfC?li=BBnb7Kz

goji
February 27th, 2021, 09:04
The key word is REDUCE transmission, which is not the same as eliminate.

Let's imagine Thailand abolishes quarantine in May. If they get 250,000 tourists per week, far below pre-covid levels and 0.1% have Covid, that's 250 cases per week. If they only allow vaccinated people in and the vaccine cuts transmission by 80%, we're down to 50 cases per week.

If those 50 cases meet an unvaccinated Thai population, the result is a Covid outbreak. So even with vaccinated tourists arriving, it's a problem.

When Thailand has vaccinated over 50% of the population and has a schedule to take vaccination beyond 75%, vaccination passports might just make sense for a few months.

StevieWonders
February 27th, 2021, 09:11
The key word is REDUCE transmission, which is not the same as eliminate.

Let's imagine Thailand abolishes quarantine in May. If they get 250,000 tourists per week, far below pre-covid levels and 0.1% have Covid, that's 250 cases per week. If they only allow vaccinated people in and the vaccine cuts transmission by 80%, we're down to 50 cases per week.

If those 50 cases meet an unvaccinated Thai population, the result is a Covid outbreak. So even with vaccinated tourists arriving, it's a problem.

When Thailand has vaccinated over 50% of the population and has a schedule to take vaccination beyond 75%, vaccination passports might just make sense for a few months.From whom are these mythical 50 cases going to catch COVID-19 in order to transmit it? Either they have been exposed in the 2 weeks before they arrived or they caught it during the flight. Or they caught it after they arrived in Thailand. Fifty a week sounds an improbably high number under the circumstances

wingnut
February 27th, 2021, 12:46
From whom are these mythical 50 cases going to catch COVID-19 in order to transmit it? Either they have been exposed in the 2 weeks before they arrived or they caught it during the flight. Or they caught it after they arrived in Thailand. Fifty a week sounds an improbably high number under the circumstancesVery poor risk assessment by goji.

goji
February 27th, 2021, 16:14
Almost like certain spammers have multiple handles?

StevieWonders
February 27th, 2021, 18:47
Very poor risk assessment by goji.Right, wingnut, job is to show goji that “could” does not equate to “will”

Dodger
February 27th, 2021, 19:25
Almost like certain spammers have multiple handles?

Reminds me of Jim Henson and Kermit.