World Air Travel Security & Bangkok Airport (updates)...

[travelerjim]

Northwest Airlines in the USA ...as with many airlines - have issued a new advisory to their passengers regarding newly introduced security measures effective today - August 10th.

Their advisory follows:

http://www.nwa.com/features/advisory.html .

Northwest Airlines Reminds Customers of New TSA Security Requirement


EAGAN, Minn -- (August 10, 2006) - Northwest Airlines is reminding its customers of a new requirement from the U.S. Transportation Security Administration (TSA) affecting all airline passengers. Click here for current Travel Waiver information.



Effective today, the TSA has informed Northwest that travelers are not allowed to transport any liquids, gels, lotions or similar items in their carry-on luggage. This includes items such as beverages, hairspray, toothpaste and shampoo. Customers are advised to transport these items in their checked luggage. The TSA will remove these items from customers' carry-on luggage at airport security checkpoints. These items must now be placed in checked luggage or they will be discarded.



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Baby formula, prescriptions and medications will still be allowed as carry-on items, but they must be presented for inspection at the security checkpoint.

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Expect to be asked to remove all shoes at security checkpoints. While this is a common occurrence, you can expect these checks to be nearly universal.

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Follow all directives from Transportation Security Administration personnel. This is a developing situation and protocols may change as new information becomes available.

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Leave extra time. These new security procedures will require travelers to allow more time to transit the airport. For future travel, we encourage domestic customers to arrive two hours prior to departure; those flying to international destinations should arrive three hours prior to departure.

The airline is suggesting that customers consider checking all of their luggage, in an effort to minimize delays at airport security checkpoints.

As additional information on this new TSA security requirement becomes available, it will be posted on the TSA's Web site at www.tsa.gov (http://www.tsa.gov), and Northwest will post information to its Web site at www.nwa.com (http://www.nwa.com)

All passengers should check flight and gate status prior to leaving for the airport.

TravelerJim

[travelerjim]

Here is the US State Departments Travel Advisory:

Civil Aviation Public Announcement
August 10, 2006

This Public Announcement alerts Americans to the Government of the United Kingdom's August 10, 2006 announcement that it has heightened security at all U.K. airports due to the arrest of several terror suspects, who were reportedly planning to place explosives on commercial air flights. Information periodically is updated by the U.K. Department for Transport (www.dft.gov.uk (http://www.dft.gov.uk) <http://www.dft.gov.uk/>) and the British Airport Authority (www.baa.co.uk (http://www.baa.co.uk) <http://www.baa.co.uk/>). The U.S. Embassy in London also maintains a website at london.usembassy.gov. Americans with immediate travel plans into or out of the United Kingdom should contact their respective airlines before traveling to the airport. Due to the delays and flight cancellations, U.S. Officials have been cautioned to avoid transiting through U.K. airports at this time. This Public Announcement expires August 31, 2006.

The government of the United Kingdom announced on August 10, 2006 that it has heightened security at all U.K. airports due to the arrest of several terror suspects, who were reportedly planning to place explosives on commercial air flights. As a result of these arrests, the threat level in the U.K. has been raised to critical, reflecting the belief that an attack may be imminent. In the United States, the Department of Homeland Security has also raised the threat level to high for all commercial flights operating in or coming to the United States. The situation remains fluid and is being covered widely by British and international media. Information periodically is updated by the U.K. Department for Transport (www.dft.gov.uk (http://www.dft.gov.uk) <http://www.dft.gov.uk/>) and the British Airport Authority (www.baa.co.uk (http://www.baa.co.uk)). The U.S. Embassy in London also maintains a website at www.london.usembassy.gov (http://www.london.usembassy.gov) <http://www.london.usembassy.gov/> .

Americans with immediate travel plans into or out of the United Kingdom should contact their respective airlines before traveling to the airport. Heightened security in other countries may cause delays in other flights from Europe to the United States. American citizens are advised to anticipate stringent security measures and cooperate fully with authorities. For the latest travel and safety information, Americans living and traveling abroad should regularly monitor local media and the Department's Bureau of Consular Affairs Internet website at travel.state.gov <http://travel.state.gov/>. The Homeland Security website also provides information at www.dhs.gov (http://www.dhs.gov) <http://www.dhs.gov/>. Travelers should also check the Transportation Security Administration website at www.tsa.gov (http://www.tsa.gov) <http://www.tsa.gov/>.

U.S. citizens are strongly encouraged to maintain a high level of vigilance, be aware of local events, and take the appropriate steps to bolster their personal security. For additional information, please refer to "A Safe Trip Abroad" found at <http://travel.state.gov/>.

U.S. Government facilities worldwide remain at a heightened state of alert. These facilities may temporarily close or periodically suspend public services to assess their security posture. In those instances, U.S. embassies and consulates will make every effort to provide emergency services to U.S. citizens. Americans abroad are urged to monitor the local news and maintain contact with the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate.

As the Department continues to develop information on any potential security threats to U.S. citizens overseas, it shares credible threat information through its consular information program documents, available on the Internet at <http://travel.state.gov/>. In addition to information on the Internet, travelers may obtain up-to-date information on security conditions by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the U.S. or outside the U.S. and Canada on a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444.

[travelerjim]

Here is link to many postings about the new rules and their implementation...from www.flyertalk.com (http://www.flyertalk.com) .

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=222 .

TravelerJim

[jimnbkk]

you cannot take cellphones, laptops, most things with batteries (I'm not clear on the extent of the ban) with you into the cabin of aircraft flying into/out of or within Europe. Actually, when u think about it, it could be rather simple to put a cell phone connected to a bomb in your checked luggage and carry another cell phone onto the plane, and phone the one in the checked bag. I think it's a shame, but we should not carry cell phones onto planes. Maybe we could check them at the gate and they could be carried in a secure place on the plane and not available to the passenger.

My experience in LOS with "airport security" is less than comforting. I swear the guy on the xray machine had his eyes closed last time I went through.

Maybe i should just cancel my 31 August trip????

sigh.

... an election coming up? That's the usual excuse to frighten the bejesus out of the punters

[Aunty]

I'm wondering how long it will be before we all have to report naked to the gate and travel nude for security reasons.

I actually welcome these new measures. Finally it might be possible to get on and off an aircraft in reasonable time without all the dumdfucker peasants' cluttering the aisle trying to force their ugly to big bags into overhead lockers, stopping everybody from getting past as they then try to remember where they put their glasses. And now we won't have Einstein getting up every 10 minutes to get something else out of his shitty bag-life!

Heathrow was reported to not allow handbags but only certain items in a clear plastic bag. That could make the entire system with expensive baggage screeners obsolete and all that space and cabinets on aircraft look very unused. We'd all need another allowed bag in the hold.

[travelerjim]

Don Muang Airport boosts security after foiled bomb plot in London

www.Thaivisa.com (http://www.Thaivisa.com) has started a discussion of the steps Bangkok airport are taking....see this link - which includes newspaper articles and postings about BKK airport:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=78525 .

BANGKOK: -- Local authorities have increased security at Bangkok's international airport, deployed search dogs and urged passengers to minimise carry-on items, following the thwarted terror plot in London, officials said Friday.

Two U.S. airlines, United Airlines and Northwest, have banned passengers from taking any liquids onto the plane, said airport manager Chotisak Aspaviriya.

United Airlines is operated by UAL Corp. (UAUA) and Northwest by Northwest Airlines Corp. (NWACQ).

No irregularities have been reported at Thai airports, and security agencies say there is no information of terrorists targeting Thailand.

"Twenty-five sniffing dogs from the army have been deployed at the Bangkok airport since Thursday night, and 50 security officers and handheld scanners have been added," said airport manager Chotisak Aspaviriya.

Airport officials asked that passengers try to minimize the number of hand-carried items on board the plane.

Thai Airways International Plc has not changed its flight schedule to the United States and Europe, said Suraphol Isaragura na Ayuthaya, Thai Airways International flight operations manager.

Passengers should only carry necessary items, and refrain from taking liquids, gel, and / or electrical appliances, Suraphol said.

--The Nation 2006-08-11

More articles and discussion follows...

TravelerJim

[travelerjim]

Bangkok-Europe flights continue...

As reported on www.thaivisa.com (http://www.thaivisa.com):

Bangkok-Europe flights continue

BANGKOK: -- There has been no halt in flights from Bangkok to the United Kingdom following a foiled major terrorist plot to blow up aircraft flying from the UK to the United States by police Thursday.

Security measures including restrictions on hand luggage are likely to be in effect on many flights, both to Europe and elsewhere.

Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said that he believed the terror threat should not spread to Asia, and that it is not necessary now to cancel flights from Bangkok to the UK.

"I have been informed of the foiled terrorist plot in London and have ordered a security beef-up at all international and regional airports in the country," said Mr. Thaksin, "but I consider it's not necessary to cancel flights to the UK at the moment as the terror threat shouldn't spread to Asia.

Police in London said on Thursday they had thwarted the major terrorist plot to blow up aircraft in mid-flight, prompting several countries to have stepped up security at their airports.

Twenty-one people have reportedly been arrested in connection with the foiled plot, all of them British Muslims.

The suspected terrorists reportedly target flights from London, Glasgow and Manchester to the US, the UK police said.

-- TNA 2006-08-11

[travelerjim]

Transport Minister: bomb plan in England will not cause a delay of opening of Suvarnbhumi Airport

as reported on www.thaivisa.com (http://www.thaivisa.com):

Transport Minister: bomb plan in England will not cause a delay of opening of Suvarnbhumi Airport

Transport Minister Pongsak Raktapongpaisal (พงศักดิ์ รักตพงศ์ไพศาล) has affirmed that the plan to bomb aircrafts in England will not postpone the opening of Suvarnabhumi Airport, while urging airlines to be more cautious on matters with liquid materials.

Following the interception of the recent terrorism plot in England, Mr. Pongsak has assigned Airports of Thailand to cooperate with Thai Airways in intensifying the transport security measures. He refused to reveal the security plans, but admitted that passengers from Europe may face with some inconvenience during this period. In the meantime, he has requested passengers to arrive at the airport before their flight schedules as the airport has to check all flights before they will be allowed to take off.

He confirmed that this event will not impact on the opening of Suvarnabhumi Airport, which is set on September 28th, and the number of flights will not be lessened as well.

Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 11 August 2006

[travelerjim]

Thai Airways intensively checks flights between Britain and Thailand

as reported on www.thaivisa.com (http://www.thaivisa.com):

Thai Airways intensively checks flights between Britain and Thailand

Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has ordered Thai Airways to intensively inspect the arrivals and departures of airlines as well as the baggage of the flights from England to Thailand, following the terrorism plot to blow up United States-bound flights in Heathrow Airport, London.

Pol. Lt. Col. Thaksin has reminded officials of Thai Airways to inspect the baggage system comprehensively and cautiously check the arrivals and departures of all flights. Nevertheless, no flights will be canceled as he believes the situation will not aggravate to Thailand or Asian region.

According to the news report, the aircraft bomb plot between Britain and the United States could potentially kill thousands of people, and it would be as tragic as the September 11th terrorism attack.

Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 11 August 2006

[travelerjim]

The Sawatdee Forum Global page has this discussion about A Flying Nightmare ...London.

http://www.sawatdee-gay-thailand.com/fo ... php?t=8851 (http://www.sawatdee-gay-thailand.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8851)

I'm in the Middle East right now, waiting on a connecting flight to Heathrow. Everything is on time, no problems, hand baggage included. I'll be at LHR in a few hours. Anyone going to the Thai Festival in Battersea Park on Sunday? Look for me there with me bf.

Any up-date on the liquid gas bombs?
Aaah you just missed the heat wave 'yus. Never mind dress up warmly, even though you missed the season I am sure BF will keep you warm.

I'm wondering how long it will be before we all have to report naked to the gate and travel nude for security reasons...

Actually Aunty, not so long as you may think. Last year I was asked if I would go through the full body sniff test when passing through SFO. What do you say, No? Then end up with suspicion and a full hands on body search, so not knowing what to expect, I said yes. Stepped into a machine and waited, a sudden blast of air caught me off guard and my coiffed hair (I had more hair last year) was ruined. Apparently this machine blows and sucks - blows air all over you and then sucks in any trace particles checking for drugs and bomb making equipment. The latest thing, and on trial at Heathrow, is the full body x-ray scanner - similar to the sniffer, apparently you stand in the machine and the operator does an x-ray strip search to varying degrees, peeling away layers of clothes on his monitor until you are naked as the day you were born - then they can go deeper and look under your skin for any items you forgot to store in your luggage and inadvertently planted in an orifice. So, next time you report to security at the airport, make sure you are well perfumed and have your clean knickers on!

[Aunty]

Last year I was asked if I would go through the full body sniff test when passing through SFO. What do you say, No? Then end up with suspicion and a full hands on body search............What you do all depends on how good looking the guy who will do to the search is. If he's a total hottie, I suggest you be thoroughly uncooperative. Who knows you might even strike it lucky, and be manhandled.




Apparently this machine blows and sucks Sounds fabulous to me. Does this come before or after the full body search and the manhandling? Anyway, I want one.




..........and the operator does an x-ray strip search to varying degrees, peeling away layers of clothes on his monitor until you are naked as the day you were born - then they can go deeper and look under your skin for any items you forgot to store in your luggage and inadvertently planted in an orifice.Eeeewwww, I have visions of a white thing on the screen, showing a small canister's sequestered up a women's vagina. Let's just have men and women only flights and lets go naked.

One of the suspects arrested was a security guard at heathrow airport.


OOOPS!!

Listening to some of the commentary on BBC this morning, they were presenting some interesting possibilities:

The reason the alert level is remaining the highest possible is that the British government is quite concerned that they might not have caught all the operatives and a Plan B attack may be imminent by any remaining terrorists still on the loose.

With the huge queues at check-in counters and again at security screening at peak periods, a suicide bomber detonating while standing in queue (or several in scattered locations simultaneously) could (a) kill more people than on a few airplanes and (b) destroy enough infrastructure in the process to bring air transportation to a crawl in London (or wherever).

What would the authorities next move be? Screen traffic miles before reaching the airport???

Also, to address the question as to how checking all the hand carry luggage into the baggage hold is any safer than having it in the cabin: This specific threat was to carry on board the components and combine them into a bomb on board the plane while airborne. Denying any Plan B operative the luxury of carry-on items defuses that immediate threat. Granted, it is not a long-term end-all solution, but addresses the immediate threat of a Plan B attack.

MINNEAPOLIS тАФ The foiled terrorist plot that has resulted in heightened airline security has Northwest Airlines flight attendants questioning whether they should go ahead with plans to begin selective work stoppages next week.

With increased security already causing delays at airports across the country, the interim president of the Association of Flight Attendants at Northwest said Thursday that union leaders were weighing their options.http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti ... 9/60811001 (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060811/NEWS99/60811001)

New York Times
August 11, 2006
U.S. Air Travel Appears Nearly Normal

By JOHN HOLUSHA and MICHAEL AMON
Domestic air travel appeared to be nearly normal today, as travelers quickly adapted to new rules prohibiting liquids, gels or creams in carry-on bags.

Most flights were taking off close to on time, according the Federal Aviation Administration, and long security waits at airports resulting from the imposition of the new restrictions early Thursday, were all but gone.

Most travelers had packed the now-banned containers of perfume, makeup and lotion in their checked baggage, speeding their passage through security checks and avoiding having to toss them into trash cans at the last minute, airlines said.

Airports in many cities showed signs of increased security. At Kennedy, Port Authority police and National Guard troops, both toting automatic rifles, patrolled the corridors of the airport and bomb-sniffing dogs were also in use. National Guard soldiers also patrolled Logan Airport in Boston.

[Surfcrest]

... an election coming up? That's the usual excuse to frighten the bejesus out of the punters

I find it odd that on the same page that we find the details of this terrorist plot, we read
of the Israeli offensive in Lebanon.

If you've ever been to the Middle East you'll know this has little to do with any election.

Surfcrest

[Dick]

According to BA's UK website, the cancelled flights yesterday to/from USA were those to/from LA, Washington, San Fransisco, and New York. All other US flights maintaned. That would suggest the routes the terrorists intended to target.
The high levels of security are reported tonight on London radio as continuing for the forseeable future.

such dramatic news..let's wait and see how much of it is actually true. It should however keep the general population terrified enough of "terrorists" to divert attention from the deteriorating scene in Iraq-the invasion that was going to stop all this so-called terrorism.

Meanwhile more people ar killed on British roads in a month than by terrorists over the past 6 years..more killed on US roads in a week.

Speaking to a Thai resort hotel manager this week he is despairing of these type of sensationlist events..having left a Manchester hotel to manage a Sydney hotel for the 2000 Olympics he saw 10 leading hotels close down in the city afer the ludicrous Sars drama blow out, followed by 9/11 and the Iraq deabcle and now this. Are our so-called leaders trying to decimate the airline and tourism industry ?

( don't blame me though..I didn't vote for G.Bush or T.Bair)

nb: have the British police only just discovered liquid explosive ???? they have been around for a 100 years.

have the British police only just discovered liquid explosive ???? they have been around for a 100 years.

You make a good point there, Pearl. This evening on Chris Matthews' Hardball, the White House staffer for terrorism said they've known about the plan to use liquid explosives in this plot for a few weeks, but decided not to increase the screening or prohibit liquids on flights so as not to let the terrorists know we were aware of their plot, thus giving investigators more time to gather intelligence.

Yes, Pearl:

Someone has to ask this HS Chief why we knew about liquid explosives but left the system so vulnerable for so long (i.e. since the beginning, not since just 3 weeks ago).

Someone also has to ask George Bush to explain the problem that terrorism is so much worse now that Saddam Hussein has been removed. Until people STOP voting for 'who you want to fight the terrorists' instaed of 'those who reduce them' this thing will probably get worse.

I'm for getting over with what I knew back then (and the gov't apparently didn't). It's time to get rid of ALL handcarry, whatsoever. Your pills, boarding pass and ID, taht's all. Check your winter coats as well. It will cost HS less not to have to screen those bags. The airlines have to supply all basics (they'll probably charge). We'll have to do without our books, cellphones, computers. gameboys, lipstick, ... Not much of a sacrifice. Baggage insurance assured (not a big deal, when was the last time you lost luggage with all these rules in effect?) with an immediate ATM card with $1000.00 on it whenever a passeger loses his ONE checked bag and is starnded without clothes, supplies, etc. Such thinking seems childish but at least it's ahead of the government's!

It just seems the only solution.

It's time to get rid of ALL handcarry, whatsoever....

It just seems the only solution.

Already Homeland Security is saying that they are looking at loosening the restrictions soon, rather than taking such a dramatic step. Banning all carry-on would probably kill the airline industry, is my guess. Who would want to fly? No books? No iPods? Just inane airline movies (and there aren't even movies on most domestic US flights).

Of course, if a plane is ever brought down, then the airline industry is probably dead anyway and they'll ban carry-on for sure.

Of course, if a plane is ever brought down, then the airline industry is probably dead anyway and they'll ban carry-on for sure.

So ur saying maybe its time to get this over with now?

It's time to get rid of ALL handcarry, whatsoever....

It just seems the only solution.

Already Homeland Security is saying that they are looking at loosening the restrictions soon, rather than taking such a dramatic step. Banning all carry-on would probably kill the airline industry, is my guess. Who would want to fly? No books? No iPods? Just inane airline movies (and there aren't even movies on most domestic US flights)..

Much of the stuff that people take onboard are items like drinks, reading materials & sweets.

All of these can be purchased in Duty Free after clearing security. Agreed you may not want to purchase another iPod but I am sure nobody is going to die through being deprived of their own music collection for a few hours.

... I am sure nobody is going to die through being deprived of their own music collection for a few hours.

And I am sure you are quite right; no one would die! But really the question is, would the experience be something that the flying public would continue to accept for leisure travel? If the flying experience becomes an increasingly onerous, para-military experience for the common vacationer, don't tell me the same hoards will continue to fly to Disney World or Paris or London etc for a supposedly relaxing vacation, if getting on the plane is like checking into prison. Some will, but many won't, and most airlines will fail, IMHO.

Trouble-free arrival at Heathrow last night, though Customs did want a look in my bag (ignored bf's). Soho was heaving with partiers last night and life goes on. Tonight, every Thai boy's dream: 3rd row seats for the Madonna concert at Wembley Arena.

[quote="SF farangAnd I am sure you are quite right; no one would die! But really the question is, would the experience be something that the flying public would continue to accept for leisure travel? If the flying experience becomes an increasingly onerous, para-military experience for the common vacationer, don't tell me the same hoards will continue to fly to Disney World or Paris or London etc for a supposedly relaxing vacation, if getting on the plane is like checking into prison. Some will, but many won't, and most airlines will fail, IMHO.[/quote]

The current delays are caused by people arriving at the airports having to repack hand luggage into checked in baggage.

If tighter restrictions are put on hand luggage permantly then people will adapt to what they can and cannot take into the cabin and the queues will be no logner than before.

Things normalise and people adapt to them. If people accept the restrictions and adhere to them there will be no more hassle than before in going through security and it becomes part of our normal travel procedures.

I doubt if many people will forsake their annual holidays abroad simply because they are not able to travel with 'the kitchen sink' in the overhead locker.

How many of the items that are packed into hand baggage at the moment are actually needed on board during the flight, I would suggest very little.

How many of the items that are packed into hand baggage at the moment are actually needed on board during the flight, I would suggest very little.

I reformed two years ago and I'm down to one carry on bag, which INCLUDES my computer in it. It's big and heavy but it always fits. I must admit that when I consider it, MOST of that bag is unused on flight. Because the luggage loss thing seems to have been worked out with the regulations of late I carry only extra clothes for extra warmth in case on board and do not worry anymore about getting stuck somewhere for a few days without clothes, toiletries, etc. So the situation is changed and I am no longer opposed to greater carry on restrictions, even NO carry-on allowance (including for the first class passengers and flight crews).

[bing]

Of all the wonderful ideas I have gleaned from this forum, I think your idea about traveling nude is just peachy. Where can I sign up, I would love to have the flight attendants pouring my tea or adult beverage in the au natural. I think that is what a 14 hour flight to Korea needs is a little flesh to sort of spice thing up a bit. One time I watched 5 movies on one the the flights and still thought the flight would never end. Perhaps banning all textiles would put a new emphasis on Flying United. He He And I was the one who was saying just a few days ago I say a little prayer when going in and out of Korea. Now I can't even take my MP3 player. Guess I'll have to follow Pearl's advice and just order another G&T and sit back and enjoy. I have appreciated all the serious postings on this latest crisis, I guess I choose flight as opposed to fight on this occasion. In case my paranoia is warranted, know that I thought well of you, mostly.

[llz]

http://upload4.postimage.org/845001/Flight_from_Heathrow_Airpor.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/845001/photo_hosting.html)

source :
www.2bangkok.com/06/stephff.shtml (http://www.2bangkok.com/06/stephff.shtml)

This thing is bad for all of us.........hope they end these restrictions soon or we will all be paying higher fares. Airport shops will be losing millions and the airports will need to recoup this money though higher landing fees etc.

[Aunty]

Of all the wonderful ideas I have gleaned from this forum, I think your idea about traveling nude is just peachy. Where can I sign up, I would love to have the flight attendants pouring my tea or adult beverage in the au natural. I think that is what a 14 hour flight to Korea needs is a little flesh to sort of spice thing up a bit. One time I watched 5 movies on one the the flights and still thought the flight would never end. Perhaps banning all textiles would put a new emphasis on Flying United. He He And I was the one who was saying just a few days ago I say a little prayer when going in and out of Korea. Now I can't even take my MP3 player. Guess I'll have to follow Pearl's advice and just order another G&T and sit back and enjoy. I have appreciated all the serious postings on this latest crisis, I guess I choose flight as opposed to fight on this occasion. In case my paranoia is warranted, know that I thought well of you, mostly.

Well if anything happens to you I shall wear black for the entire day.

Of course traveling nude would make eating nuts for a quick snack a whole new ball (opps) game, don't you think?

I must admit that having had the delightful experience of being thoroughly screwed by a couple of Cathy Pacific flight attendants I think I'd make them my preferred carrier. Yourself?

Returned to Bangkok from London with the b/f after a short 9 day break in the UK and flew the EVA BR68 flight.

The flight was delayed for about 40 mins both departure and arrival.

LHR was getting back to normal apart from the hand baggage restrictions which did not bother me as I only ever take passport and money with me.

Most affected are the holiday charter flights and it would seem the BA flights to the states.