christianpfc
October 5th, 2020, 19:53
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Brazil Sep2020 Gay activities
There is a well-developed gay scene (both free and paid; bars, discos, saunas, online; only gogo bars and dedicated massage is missing) and a large range of body shapes and skin colors available in Brazil. But if you are looking for someone with no body hair, it’s not the place to go. If you are looking for big cock, it’s the place to go.
Everything (online chat, boys from online to my room, encounters in sauna, activities in my room) could have happened the same way in Thailand (just exchange sauna with moneyboys in Brazil with gogo or host bar in Thailand).
“Boy” refers to any sexually desirable male over the age of consent.
Discos closed due to covid. Some encounters online (from online dating apps; there are dedicated websites for moneyboys but I didn’t delve into this area), most of this post will be about saunas.
General differences to saunas in Thailand (and everywhere else in SEAsia I have been in gay saunas: Cambodia, Vietnam, Taiwan). Entrance fee (and anything you consumed during your stay charged to your locker number) is paid on leaving. Some saunas in Brazil have money boys. Those money boys charge for 30 minutes, and private rooms in the sauna are rented out in multiples of 30 minutes? And boy wants extra if he cums? (So I read in boytoy forum, no personal experience.) This is something I don’t like (I can’t work under time pressure, and if a money boy in SEAsia told me he has only one hour, I would say goodbye to him). But the rooms look nicer than rooms in SEAsia.
All gay saunas had signs reminding people to wear a mask. All of the staff wore masks, but most customers and boys didn’t.
I read everywhere that grindr is the most popular gay dating app and installed in on my phone for my trip to Brazil. However, my two encounters were from gayromeo and hornet. Low activity on blued.
Thu10sep2020 SP Espaço Lagoa
Entry 50, milkshake 15. Stay 18:10-19:38. The place is busy with about 25 people in the bar and over 50 in the entire premises. Two towels of good quality and flip-flops. The showers have a glass wall to the bar. I never showered in front of an audience of 25 people. (Joking; nobody paid notice to me in the shower.)
During a stroll through the sauna, and later when boys shower, the biggest dicks I have seen!
One boy looks cute and face and body remind me of a boy Max who was in Pattaya (last seen in 2015). But he has hair on his abdomen, no way. He notices my interest and approaches me, but no English. Same for another boy who approaches me.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cqHfTgEtO10/X3in-5gMAII/AAAAAAAAQP8/who48X0pKDYgXyrxo49Ufi31y-qLtGlnQCLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h568/Screenshot_2014-05-17-21-24-43.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cqHfTgEtO10/X3in-5gMAII/AAAAAAAAQP8/who48X0pKDYgXyrxo49Ufi31y-qLtGlnQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1440/Screenshot_2014-05-17-21-24-43.jpg)
Meet forum member bcdaron for a chat at the bar. The acoustics is poor, there is a lot of noise, and when they start karaoke, it becomes a cacophony, unbearable for me, and we leave.
Last round through the sauna, I spot a boy in the smoking room. Promising enough for me to enter the smoking room (I don’t smoke and don’t like the smell). The boy has brown skin and is slim, and a big, soft or half-hard, dick that he is stroking in one hand, and his mobile phone in the other. I can’t spot body hair on upper thighs or abdomen. No tattoos. All very enticing! But he appears utterly bored, and I don’t think that would change if I hired him to go to a room. He obviously does not understand English (we were talking about him within hearing distance) and face very average (“pull a bag over his face”, was bcdaron’s suggestion), and in sitting posture I cannot fully assess his body.
Fri11sep2020 Gabriel, 269 Chilli Pepper, Upgrade Club
I had chatted with a boy Gabriel on gayromeo, then whatsapp. Pale skin, but that can be mended by low light. He is looking for something serious, I’m looking for holiday fun, don’t know how we can reconcile that. Anyway, one appointment passed, no show or message. Second appointment passed, no show or message. I give up.
269 Chilli Pepper (gay sauna and hotel). Arrive 19:15. Entry only with ID (I knew and brought my German ID card), temperature check, weapons check. Cashier speaks English, but you can’t see him. Entry 79 BRL for single room (small room with a safe and a bed, can stay up to 6 hours).
Lift for three floors. Flip-flops sorted by size. Free condoms. Steam room in operation. Bar. Two computers (where I spend part of my time reading boytoy). Customers in underwear or towel. No money boys. About 100 customers, one shapely. Everywhere too dark for my taste.
One of the largest gay saunas I have been to, larger than Babylon or Farose II in Bangkok, and comparable to "Soi 13 in" and "Aniki WoW" (World of Wonders) in Taipei. I find the highest locker number is 775. But that does not mean they have 775 locker, count starts at 400, that makes 375 lockers. Highest room number is 343, but that does not mean they have 343 room. On first floor room 101-146, second floor 201-244, third floor 301-343, making a total of 140 rooms.
Note to myself for future sauna reviews: no way for me to find out area or space the sauna occupies, but I can count lockers and rooms and sort saunas by number of lockers or rooms!
Leave 20:40. Upon paying I get a full receipt, but that is retained by security.
Walk to Upgrade Club and almost miss it. I found the house number, but there were no signs. In hindsight, light shining through gap in door frame and music (when you listen for music, else you won’t notice it) should have given a clue. But another person rings the bell and the door open, so I get in with him. Entrance to Upgrade Club at daytime. Ring the bell at door 198.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-j9sEX97Ybws/X3hrt9xYBkI/AAAAAAAAQOs/YJZCEx1FPEsFOf5GUdTFJdUjbvlYFfeiwCLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h360/P_20200913_163021_p.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-j9sEX97Ybws/X3hrt9xYBkI/AAAAAAAAQOs/YJZCEx1FPEsFOf5GUdTFJdUjbvlYFfeiwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1280/P_20200913_163021_p.jpg)
Entry 35 BRL, stay 20:52-21:18. I thought it’s a disco and I’m early (this was just meant to be a recce), but it’s a sex club and they will close 22:00 and I’m late. One of their staff speaks English and gives me a tour (advises me to keep my shoes to – they don’t provide flip-flops and there will be cum on the floor). Free condoms, no money boys. There is a bathtub and written on the wall behind “Mictorium”. (Does that just mean "pissoir" or for those who like to pee on someone or get peed on? Pee-er and Pee-ee? Not my area of interest, but out of curiosity I would have a look when it’s active.)
About 10 customers. One shapely (but cold wet skin) fucks another in the sling. There are four slings and a dungeon/cage. And a steel bridge where you can walk over the area where activities take place, and look down on them.
The staff who speaks English tells me that they close soon, but on Sunday there will be a show with gogo boys, followed by an orgy, with expected 200 customers, starting 4 pm. Exactly what the doctor ordered to get over my Can’t-get-to-Thailand depression!
Sat12sep2020 Espaço Lagoa
During touristic walk in town spot several shapely food delivery boys on bicycle. I could develop a fetish for those!
Ask receptionist to call “The Week” (largest gay disco in the world, only on Saturday): nobody picks up, and I assume it’s closed for Corona.
Sauna Labirunttu's Club (Rua Frei Caneca, 328) permanently closed.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AuOtm4L30KA/X3hsBNM3hkI/AAAAAAAAQO0/nud2TqW65KcpNadjflzcCgJNP3qtYsa5QCLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h360/P_20200912_191710_1_p.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AuOtm4L30KA/X3hsBNM3hkI/AAAAAAAAQO0/nud2TqW65KcpNadjflzcCgJNP3qtYsa5QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1280/P_20200912_191710_1_p.jpg)
Espaço Lagoa entry 65 BRL, stay 20:10-22:44. Meet bcdaron at bar and spot someone else who looks vaguely familiar, and he seems to recognize me. It’s numazu1 whom I meet in passing years ago in Bangkok!
He introduces me to the one boy Wallace I consider having business with. Shapely and skin temperature okay, but crab ladder and I prefer darker skin.
My tolerance to body hair is low. This is a boy I met in Bangkok, and that's the maximum I can bear:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P38JFMzAA44/X3nmpNtamzI/AAAAAAAAQQc/dcQR9IWsr5wbxem3Fzk3ydWUTXzrV_uxgCLcBGAsYHQ/w480-h640/FB_IMG_1601732783494.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P38JFMzAA44/X3nmpNtamzI/AAAAAAAAQQc/dcQR9IWsr5wbxem3Fzk3ydWUTXzrV_uxgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1440/FB_IMG_1601732783494.jpg)
Bar is full during show. Gogo dancing and ladyboy lipsync, just like in Thailand!
From 22 (closing time) emptying.
Sun13sep2020 Upgrade Club, Wild Thermas
Check on googlemaps, 4 pm is opening time, and I don’t think they start the show right away. Arrive 16:30 and pay 35 BRL entry. About 10 other customers, more coming, over 50 when I leave. And they are not there to stand around and look, all the slings are occupied, and others find other positions to fuck or suck.
I haven’t seen anything like this before! But no shapely, too dark, music too loud, artificial fog, I couldn’t have meaningful sex under these conditions. No point waiting for show. When I leave 18:51 (spent most of the time reading on my phone), a queue of 9 waiting to get in.
Walk to Wild Thermas. Entry 40 BRL, stay 19:20-50. Flip-flops and towel provided. About 50 customers. One shapely and cute, skin temperature okay, but not interested. Sauna and steam room lukewarm. Upstairs all nude, but too dark.
Mon14sep2020 Lion from hornet in Sao Paulo
Chat with Lion on hornet, then whatsapp. He will be free at night, then specify 10 pm. That means I can’t go anywhere else before (I don’t like to rush in case he is free earlier) or after (too late for me, and anyway everywhere closed). My messages 9:54 and 10:17 not read, but finally 10:38 reply, he is on his way. He asks for my room number, then receptionist calls me that double occupancy will be 50 BRL more, which I will pay next morning. Then finally 10:50 we meet at elevator on my floor.
Some chat with google translate, then to bed. Good attitude and activities, but a bit too hairy for my taste. Afterwards no signs of him leaving. I sleep better alone, safety concerns, logistical concerns (I have a bus to Rio at 10 am). How to approach this issue?
(google translate, from memory)
CPFC: “How far is it to your place? Can you get home now?”
Lion: “I thought I can stay over night. Can I?”
It would be unfair to throw him out, so I let him stay over night.
Poor sleep. Wake up 6 am. His alarm 7 am, my alarm 7:30, bye 8:00 without any delays (I had Thai boys block my bathroom for long time or otherwise delay or completely screw up my plans), doesn’t even want to join for breakfast. I had all my valuables locked, that means I couldn’t charge my phone over night and start the day with 40% battery. Goodbye, check-out and bus to Rio all fine.
Tue15sep2020 Point 117 in Rio de Janeiro
Rob had messaged me on gayromeo. He is not my type, but good English and works as tourist guide, so maybe we can get into business. He suggests we meet at Point 117 (i.e. I pay entry for him).
Point 117, entry 61 BRL per person, stay 19:58-21:50. Entry includes use of room. Rob is indeed well known by staff and boy and tells me boys might ask an unknown foreign customer for 200 BRL, but in his company I can get boy for 100. And there is a Black who is very tempting (slim muscular, nice dick*, perfect warm and dry skin, offers to go with me for 100, but full beard and I can’t see if there is more hair elsewhere – facial hair is no problem for me, but it is an indicator for hair elsewhere where it is a problem for me).
*about 6 inches limp, perfect size and shape (parabolic; or like a banana pointing down, for non-scientists)
But I want to have a look at the show first. Show starts 21:10. Ladyboy lipsync, gogo boy from fully dressed to nude. Nothing of interest to me, but what did I expect? I should have known better. Now I can say these shows are the same worldwide.
I made up my mind to go with the Black, and 5 minutes ago I still saw him around, but now he is gone (and so are most boys and customers after show).
https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2020/10/brazil-sep2020-gay-activities.html
Brazil Sep2020 Gay activities
There is a well-developed gay scene (both free and paid; bars, discos, saunas, online; only gogo bars and dedicated massage is missing) and a large range of body shapes and skin colors available in Brazil. But if you are looking for someone with no body hair, it’s not the place to go. If you are looking for big cock, it’s the place to go.
Everything (online chat, boys from online to my room, encounters in sauna, activities in my room) could have happened the same way in Thailand (just exchange sauna with moneyboys in Brazil with gogo or host bar in Thailand).
“Boy” refers to any sexually desirable male over the age of consent.
Discos closed due to covid. Some encounters online (from online dating apps; there are dedicated websites for moneyboys but I didn’t delve into this area), most of this post will be about saunas.
General differences to saunas in Thailand (and everywhere else in SEAsia I have been in gay saunas: Cambodia, Vietnam, Taiwan). Entrance fee (and anything you consumed during your stay charged to your locker number) is paid on leaving. Some saunas in Brazil have money boys. Those money boys charge for 30 minutes, and private rooms in the sauna are rented out in multiples of 30 minutes? And boy wants extra if he cums? (So I read in boytoy forum, no personal experience.) This is something I don’t like (I can’t work under time pressure, and if a money boy in SEAsia told me he has only one hour, I would say goodbye to him). But the rooms look nicer than rooms in SEAsia.
All gay saunas had signs reminding people to wear a mask. All of the staff wore masks, but most customers and boys didn’t.
I read everywhere that grindr is the most popular gay dating app and installed in on my phone for my trip to Brazil. However, my two encounters were from gayromeo and hornet. Low activity on blued.
Thu10sep2020 SP Espaço Lagoa
Entry 50, milkshake 15. Stay 18:10-19:38. The place is busy with about 25 people in the bar and over 50 in the entire premises. Two towels of good quality and flip-flops. The showers have a glass wall to the bar. I never showered in front of an audience of 25 people. (Joking; nobody paid notice to me in the shower.)
During a stroll through the sauna, and later when boys shower, the biggest dicks I have seen!
One boy looks cute and face and body remind me of a boy Max who was in Pattaya (last seen in 2015). But he has hair on his abdomen, no way. He notices my interest and approaches me, but no English. Same for another boy who approaches me.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cqHfTgEtO10/X3in-5gMAII/AAAAAAAAQP8/who48X0pKDYgXyrxo49Ufi31y-qLtGlnQCLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h568/Screenshot_2014-05-17-21-24-43.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cqHfTgEtO10/X3in-5gMAII/AAAAAAAAQP8/who48X0pKDYgXyrxo49Ufi31y-qLtGlnQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1440/Screenshot_2014-05-17-21-24-43.jpg)
Meet forum member bcdaron for a chat at the bar. The acoustics is poor, there is a lot of noise, and when they start karaoke, it becomes a cacophony, unbearable for me, and we leave.
Last round through the sauna, I spot a boy in the smoking room. Promising enough for me to enter the smoking room (I don’t smoke and don’t like the smell). The boy has brown skin and is slim, and a big, soft or half-hard, dick that he is stroking in one hand, and his mobile phone in the other. I can’t spot body hair on upper thighs or abdomen. No tattoos. All very enticing! But he appears utterly bored, and I don’t think that would change if I hired him to go to a room. He obviously does not understand English (we were talking about him within hearing distance) and face very average (“pull a bag over his face”, was bcdaron’s suggestion), and in sitting posture I cannot fully assess his body.
Fri11sep2020 Gabriel, 269 Chilli Pepper, Upgrade Club
I had chatted with a boy Gabriel on gayromeo, then whatsapp. Pale skin, but that can be mended by low light. He is looking for something serious, I’m looking for holiday fun, don’t know how we can reconcile that. Anyway, one appointment passed, no show or message. Second appointment passed, no show or message. I give up.
269 Chilli Pepper (gay sauna and hotel). Arrive 19:15. Entry only with ID (I knew and brought my German ID card), temperature check, weapons check. Cashier speaks English, but you can’t see him. Entry 79 BRL for single room (small room with a safe and a bed, can stay up to 6 hours).
Lift for three floors. Flip-flops sorted by size. Free condoms. Steam room in operation. Bar. Two computers (where I spend part of my time reading boytoy). Customers in underwear or towel. No money boys. About 100 customers, one shapely. Everywhere too dark for my taste.
One of the largest gay saunas I have been to, larger than Babylon or Farose II in Bangkok, and comparable to "Soi 13 in" and "Aniki WoW" (World of Wonders) in Taipei. I find the highest locker number is 775. But that does not mean they have 775 locker, count starts at 400, that makes 375 lockers. Highest room number is 343, but that does not mean they have 343 room. On first floor room 101-146, second floor 201-244, third floor 301-343, making a total of 140 rooms.
Note to myself for future sauna reviews: no way for me to find out area or space the sauna occupies, but I can count lockers and rooms and sort saunas by number of lockers or rooms!
Leave 20:40. Upon paying I get a full receipt, but that is retained by security.
Walk to Upgrade Club and almost miss it. I found the house number, but there were no signs. In hindsight, light shining through gap in door frame and music (when you listen for music, else you won’t notice it) should have given a clue. But another person rings the bell and the door open, so I get in with him. Entrance to Upgrade Club at daytime. Ring the bell at door 198.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-j9sEX97Ybws/X3hrt9xYBkI/AAAAAAAAQOs/YJZCEx1FPEsFOf5GUdTFJdUjbvlYFfeiwCLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h360/P_20200913_163021_p.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-j9sEX97Ybws/X3hrt9xYBkI/AAAAAAAAQOs/YJZCEx1FPEsFOf5GUdTFJdUjbvlYFfeiwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1280/P_20200913_163021_p.jpg)
Entry 35 BRL, stay 20:52-21:18. I thought it’s a disco and I’m early (this was just meant to be a recce), but it’s a sex club and they will close 22:00 and I’m late. One of their staff speaks English and gives me a tour (advises me to keep my shoes to – they don’t provide flip-flops and there will be cum on the floor). Free condoms, no money boys. There is a bathtub and written on the wall behind “Mictorium”. (Does that just mean "pissoir" or for those who like to pee on someone or get peed on? Pee-er and Pee-ee? Not my area of interest, but out of curiosity I would have a look when it’s active.)
About 10 customers. One shapely (but cold wet skin) fucks another in the sling. There are four slings and a dungeon/cage. And a steel bridge where you can walk over the area where activities take place, and look down on them.
The staff who speaks English tells me that they close soon, but on Sunday there will be a show with gogo boys, followed by an orgy, with expected 200 customers, starting 4 pm. Exactly what the doctor ordered to get over my Can’t-get-to-Thailand depression!
Sat12sep2020 Espaço Lagoa
During touristic walk in town spot several shapely food delivery boys on bicycle. I could develop a fetish for those!
Ask receptionist to call “The Week” (largest gay disco in the world, only on Saturday): nobody picks up, and I assume it’s closed for Corona.
Sauna Labirunttu's Club (Rua Frei Caneca, 328) permanently closed.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AuOtm4L30KA/X3hsBNM3hkI/AAAAAAAAQO0/nud2TqW65KcpNadjflzcCgJNP3qtYsa5QCLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h360/P_20200912_191710_1_p.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AuOtm4L30KA/X3hsBNM3hkI/AAAAAAAAQO0/nud2TqW65KcpNadjflzcCgJNP3qtYsa5QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1280/P_20200912_191710_1_p.jpg)
Espaço Lagoa entry 65 BRL, stay 20:10-22:44. Meet bcdaron at bar and spot someone else who looks vaguely familiar, and he seems to recognize me. It’s numazu1 whom I meet in passing years ago in Bangkok!
He introduces me to the one boy Wallace I consider having business with. Shapely and skin temperature okay, but crab ladder and I prefer darker skin.
My tolerance to body hair is low. This is a boy I met in Bangkok, and that's the maximum I can bear:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P38JFMzAA44/X3nmpNtamzI/AAAAAAAAQQc/dcQR9IWsr5wbxem3Fzk3ydWUTXzrV_uxgCLcBGAsYHQ/w480-h640/FB_IMG_1601732783494.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P38JFMzAA44/X3nmpNtamzI/AAAAAAAAQQc/dcQR9IWsr5wbxem3Fzk3ydWUTXzrV_uxgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1440/FB_IMG_1601732783494.jpg)
Bar is full during show. Gogo dancing and ladyboy lipsync, just like in Thailand!
From 22 (closing time) emptying.
Sun13sep2020 Upgrade Club, Wild Thermas
Check on googlemaps, 4 pm is opening time, and I don’t think they start the show right away. Arrive 16:30 and pay 35 BRL entry. About 10 other customers, more coming, over 50 when I leave. And they are not there to stand around and look, all the slings are occupied, and others find other positions to fuck or suck.
I haven’t seen anything like this before! But no shapely, too dark, music too loud, artificial fog, I couldn’t have meaningful sex under these conditions. No point waiting for show. When I leave 18:51 (spent most of the time reading on my phone), a queue of 9 waiting to get in.
Walk to Wild Thermas. Entry 40 BRL, stay 19:20-50. Flip-flops and towel provided. About 50 customers. One shapely and cute, skin temperature okay, but not interested. Sauna and steam room lukewarm. Upstairs all nude, but too dark.
Mon14sep2020 Lion from hornet in Sao Paulo
Chat with Lion on hornet, then whatsapp. He will be free at night, then specify 10 pm. That means I can’t go anywhere else before (I don’t like to rush in case he is free earlier) or after (too late for me, and anyway everywhere closed). My messages 9:54 and 10:17 not read, but finally 10:38 reply, he is on his way. He asks for my room number, then receptionist calls me that double occupancy will be 50 BRL more, which I will pay next morning. Then finally 10:50 we meet at elevator on my floor.
Some chat with google translate, then to bed. Good attitude and activities, but a bit too hairy for my taste. Afterwards no signs of him leaving. I sleep better alone, safety concerns, logistical concerns (I have a bus to Rio at 10 am). How to approach this issue?
(google translate, from memory)
CPFC: “How far is it to your place? Can you get home now?”
Lion: “I thought I can stay over night. Can I?”
It would be unfair to throw him out, so I let him stay over night.
Poor sleep. Wake up 6 am. His alarm 7 am, my alarm 7:30, bye 8:00 without any delays (I had Thai boys block my bathroom for long time or otherwise delay or completely screw up my plans), doesn’t even want to join for breakfast. I had all my valuables locked, that means I couldn’t charge my phone over night and start the day with 40% battery. Goodbye, check-out and bus to Rio all fine.
Tue15sep2020 Point 117 in Rio de Janeiro
Rob had messaged me on gayromeo. He is not my type, but good English and works as tourist guide, so maybe we can get into business. He suggests we meet at Point 117 (i.e. I pay entry for him).
Point 117, entry 61 BRL per person, stay 19:58-21:50. Entry includes use of room. Rob is indeed well known by staff and boy and tells me boys might ask an unknown foreign customer for 200 BRL, but in his company I can get boy for 100. And there is a Black who is very tempting (slim muscular, nice dick*, perfect warm and dry skin, offers to go with me for 100, but full beard and I can’t see if there is more hair elsewhere – facial hair is no problem for me, but it is an indicator for hair elsewhere where it is a problem for me).
*about 6 inches limp, perfect size and shape (parabolic; or like a banana pointing down, for non-scientists)
But I want to have a look at the show first. Show starts 21:10. Ladyboy lipsync, gogo boy from fully dressed to nude. Nothing of interest to me, but what did I expect? I should have known better. Now I can say these shows are the same worldwide.
I made up my mind to go with the Black, and 5 minutes ago I still saw him around, but now he is gone (and so are most boys and customers after show).