Non money boys

[chip]

Are there any bars in Bangkok where the younger set go who appreciate and enjoy being with older men?

[CambodiaVisitor]

Go to Babylon or get on Grindr. I use that app in town and i get hit up all day long by hot Thai guys into older men.

[chip]

Don't like Babylon, and am not into social media like Grindr, PR is ok but would rather meet the guy in person. Guess I am f.....ked then.

[alipatt]

Only if your lucky, don't know how you will organise that though if you can't meet them

[chip]

Well, I would assume that there may be some bars where non money boys go to meet others, that's what people use to do before all this social media crap which IMO is a foolish way to meet. So, they see a pic of you, and who knows where that pic may end up, safety is most important to me. Rather be safe than sorry. I know that I am in a minority when it comes to this.

[Manforallseasons]

Are there any bars in Bangkok where the younger set go who appreciate and enjoy being with older men?

Not a chance! There is a specific app called Silverdaddys.....Give it a try.......You may think it is “silly crap” but it is not as if you have many options.

[chip]

Thanks for the suggestion regarding Silverdaddy's have been on there in prior years. IMO it is a joke. Put in my age range which is 18 to around 30/35 and all I got were daddy's over 50 responding, guess they were as hard up as I, so I guess they thought something is better than nothing. A waste of time.

I did go to Babylon many years ago and did meet a very nice guy, who I spend some days with, never asked for money, invited me to a Karaoke bar, I think I was the only Farang in the place and he sang me a very nice song. Before I left for home, I noticed he could use a new pair of shoes, I bought them for him as a gift. I also meet a waiter at the old Dicks Cafe. We saw each other numerous times when I was in Bangkok, he was probably 30. He was involved with a teacher from England. Then a year or two later upon my return, I inquired as to where he was, I was told he passed away, at Dick's they did not want to talk about it much. I was heartbroken he was such a nice guy, and no, there was no sex involved.

[frequent]

As far as younger Thai guys who are not money boys are concerned, they’re possibly looking for a consort rather than a fling. It’s not as if you’re in Thailand that often, chip. I’m told there are a couple of such non-commercial guys on the Apps in the Silom area but they’re strictly tops who, paradoxically, will only go with guys who are well hung

[chip]

As far as younger Thai guys who are not money boys are concerned, they’re possibly looking for a consort rather than a fling. It’s not as if you’re in Thailand that often, chip. I’m told there are a couple of such non-commercial guys on the Apps in the Silom area but they’re strictly tops who, paradoxically, will only go with guys who are well hung

Well I am certainly not a bottom, and I guess being well hung negates the other so that is that. I guess it's money boys since there really does not seem be any other choice, and I must say it is not about the money, that is the least of my problems. Thanks frequent.

[BOY69]

I don't think there is such a thing non money boy who are looking for older company in Thailand unless it is for commercial purpose ,If you were in your 20's I doubt you would have been attract to men over 60's...

[chip]

I don't think there is such a thing non money boy who are looking for older company in Thailand unless it is for commercial purpose ,If you were in your 20's I doubt you would have been attract to men over 60's...

You may be correct in your thinking and perhaps you are one of them. That is what is so sad about the whole money/non money idea. In most cases it is based solely on looks, and onmaterial things not on the qualities that a person should be judged on. But in the long run, I always feel that they are the losers as they do not have any idea what qualities they should in fact be looking for. Anyway, I have posted enough on this, perhaps I should not even posted the idea. Time to move on.

[Jellybean]

I don't think there is such a thing non money boy who are looking for older company in Thailand unless it is for commercial purpose ,If you were in your 20's I doubt you would have been attract to men over 60's...

Actually, BOY69, I'm not sure that's wholly correct. Whilst most of my experience in Thailand is with bar-boys and money boys met through the apps, I did meet four younger, non-money guys located in towns in northern and southern Thailand through using the apps. Unfortunately, despite being really decent guys, they were not my type. In addition, they had jobs and were not prepared to move to Bangkok, where I owned an apartment, and expected me to move to their location. Had they been my type, would things have been different? I'm not really sure. Incidentally, I am still in contact with two of those guys and can let you know they both found older fa-ràng boyfriends. One remained up north and the other was persuaded to move to Bangkok on being offered a job in his boyfriend’s business.

Moreover, I have a good friend in Bangkok who met his younger long-term boyfriend on SilverDaddies. And, if memory serves me well, his boyfriend has a well paid, professional job. Indeed, I have a vague memory of my friend saying his bf came from a wealthy family.

The difference in both cases quoted above is that my friend lives permanently in Thailand and, at the time, I lived semi-permanently in Thailand, spending six months of the year there. And in both cases cited the Thai non-money boys were looking for long-term relationships.

But chip has already indicated that he has tried SilverDaddies, thought it was a joke and, despite stating the age range he was looking for was 18 to 30/35, the only contacts who responded were aged over 50 years old. And chip has also indicated that he is not into social media.


Are there any bars in Bangkok where the younger set go who appreciate and enjoy being with older men?

And chip, to answer your OP directly, I don’t know of any bars in Bangkok where younger, non-money guys enjoy being with older men. I have heard of older guys going to clubs like DJ Station and meeting younger, non-money guys. Whether you are the club going type, you has have not said. And I have also heard of older guys going for a drink or a meal in the Silom Soi 4 bars/restaurants like The Telephone Bar and Balcony Bar and meeting younger non-money boys. So it does indeed happen.

If anyone knows the answer to the OP, I think it would be ChristianPFC due to his experience, extensive knowledge of all things Thai and his broad range of friends living in Bangkok. But it certainly won’t be due to personal experience as he is in his thirties. Maybe when he returns to the forum he may be able to shed some light on this subject, so chip, don’t give up quite yet. :)

[chip]

Thanks for your post. Not much into the club scene any longer, but I may give it a try again while in Bangkok this time. In past visits I have gone to those bars you mentioned above, but I am impatient when nothing happens and generally leave within an hour or two. I am a very early morning person and therefore usually asleep in the evening no later than 9pm. But, I might give it a go, will wait and see.

[frequent]

You may be correct in your thinking and perhaps you are one of them. That is what is so sad about the whole money/non money idea. In most cases it is based solely on looks, and onmaterial things not on the qualities that a person should be judged on. But in the long run, I always feel that they are the losers as they do not have any idea what qualities they should in fact be looking for. Anyway, I have posted enough on this, perhaps I should not even posted the idea. Time to move on.Buddhism’s Second Noble Truth can be summarized as “you’ll always be unhappy while you live on Fantasy Island”

[cdnmatt]

Non Money Boy = Someone with more patience and intelligence, looking for something more long-term, because they know what the phrase "power of attorney" means.

[arsenal]

Old or older farangs and deleted Asian boys. Sooner or later compensation will change hands. Fact.

[francois]

I have a non-money boy, boyfriend. I give him a place to live, food, drinks, restaurants, bars, clothing, hospital care, motorbike, car, built him a house but no money. He gives me everything I desire with exception of sex which I buy elsewhere. It is a great relationship. :yes:

[frequent]

I have a non-money boy, boyfriend. I give him a place to live, food, drinks, restaurants, bars, clothing, hospital care, motorbike, car, built him a house but no money. He gives me everything I desire with exception of sex which I buy elsewhere. It is a great relationship. :yes:Paying by barter rather than by cash doesn't make him any less a money boy

[dinagam]

Paying by barter rather than by cash doesn't make him any less a money boy

He's a money boy no doubt about it.
But he doesn't fuck fore or aft according to the custom.

[BOY69]

Actually, BOY69, I'm not sure that's wholly correct. Whilst most of my experience in Thailand is with bar-boys and money boys met through the apps, I did meet four younger, non-money guys located in towns in northern and southern Thailand through using the apps. Unfortunately, despite being really decent guys, they were not my type. In addition, they had jobs and were not prepared to move to Bangkok, where I owned an apartment, and expected me to move to their location. Had they been my type, would things have been different? I'm not really sure. Incidentally, I am still in contact with two of those guys and can let you know they both found older fa-ràng boyfriends. One remained up north and the other was persuaded to move to Bangkok on being offered a job in his boyfriend’s business.

Moreover, I have a good friend in Bangkok who met his younger long-term boyfriend on SilverDaddies. And, if memory serves me well, his boyfriend has a well paid, professional job. Indeed, I have a vague memory of my friend saying his bf came from a wealthy family.

The difference in both cases quoted above is that my friend lives permanently in Thailand and, at the time, I lived semi-permanently in Thailand, spending six months of the year there. And in both cases cited the Thai non-money boys were looking for long-term relationships.

But chip has already indicated that he has tried SilverDaddies, thought it was a joke and, despite stating the age range he was looking for was 18 to 30/35, the only contacts who responded were aged over 50 years old. And chip has also indicated that he is not into social media.



And chip, to answer your OP directly, I don’t know of any bars in Bangkok where younger, non-money guys enjoy being with older men. I have heard of older guys going to clubs like DJ Station and meeting younger, non-money guys. Whether you are the club going type, you has have not said. And I have also heard of older guys going for a drink or a meal in the Silom Soi 4 bars/restaurants like The Telephone Bar and Balcony Bar and meeting younger non-money boys. So it does indeed happen.

If anyone knows the answer to the OP, I think it would be ChristianPFC due to his experience, extensive knowledge of all things Thai and his broad range of friends living in Bangkok. But it certainly won’t be due to personal experience as he is in his thirties. Maybe when he returns to the forum he may be able to shed some light on this subject, so chip, don’t give up quite yet. :)

I doubt a younger boy will be willing to make serious relationship with older falang unless he is financially based never heard young Thai is with a poor older falang .
ChristianPFC although he is relatively young did not find serious relationship with a Thai boy although he tried very long time and almost
always pop up to him the boy requested a financial support .

[BOY69]

Paying by barter rather than by cash doesn't make him any less a money boy

Excatly. A real Non money boy will have a proper job and will support himself.

[a447]

I've always thought that the term "money boy" involved him having sex with his benefactor.

So by my own definition, francois' friend is not a money boy.

[BOY69]

I've always thought that the term "money boy" involved him having sex with his benefactor.

So by my own definition, francois' friend is not a money boy.

Certainly not. I saw many times very old clients whom I doubt can perform any sex activity taking boys as companion and not for sex,That doesn't make the boy non money boy !

[frequent]

Certainly not. I saw many times very old clients whom I doubt can perform any sex activity taking boys as companion and not for sex,That doesn't make the boy non money boy !There's something I call "the money boy mentality" - an expectation that someone else will underwrite their life choices. Sex is usually but may or may not be a component

[francois]

Excatly. A real Non money boy will have a proper job and will support himself.

Non-money boy, boyfriend, does have a job and does support his family.

[BOY69]

Non-money boy, boyfriend, does have a job and does support his family.

Money boy or non money boy is not relevant if you two are happy this is the most important thing.

[Manforallseasons]

I knew some silly old queen who didn’t want a money boy but a boy that would love him......after many failed attempts he realized in the long run a non money boy was much more expensive than a m/b.

[BOY69]

"If you are looking for Love in Thailand rent it."

[bkkguy]

That is what is so sad about the whole money/non money idea. In most cases it is based solely on looks, and onmaterial things not on the qualities that a person should be judged on. But in the long run, I always feel that they are the losers as they do not have any idea what qualities they should in fact be looking for.

I suppose these are the same "losers" who keep watching porn that doesn't feature unattractive people espousing high moral principles?

and who should get to preach about "what qualities [we] should in fact be looking for" in a commercial sex encounter and/or a non-commercial one night stand and/or a long term relationship?

and who should get to be so judgemental as to decide when it becomes "sad" and when others become "losers" in these type of encounters?

[chip]

me

[Smiles]

"me"Canadians are by nature folks of few words, but 2 letters? Dr Johnson would be rolling in his dreams: "fucking colonialists".

[sglad]

I've always thought that the term "money boy" involved him having sex with his benefactor.

So by my own definition, francois' friend is not a money boy.

No, he's more like a paid companion. Over here we have elderly people who have Filipino or Indonesian maids as their caregivers and companions because their families either don't want to or don't have the time to spend with them. Often the maids and their elderly charges become quite attached to one another.

[christianpfc]

Are there any bars in Bangkok where the younger set go who appreciate and enjoy being with older men?
Not that I know of.

You might find some on the apps, but not in brick-and-mortar venue (bar, sauna, disco) other than by chance.

[frequent]

Not that I know of. You might find some on the apps, but not in brick-and-mortar venue (bar, sauna, disco) other than by chance.It’s not unknown for senior Thai grandees to have young Western catamites, but not in bars, more the private party scene

[francois]

I've always thought that the term "money boy" involved him having sex with his benefactor.

So by my own definition, francois' friend is not a money boy.

He is not even a boy anymore. :eek:

[Manforallseasons]

He is not even a boy anymore. :eek:

I remembered when he was a boy and I am happy he is content now after his sex reassignment surgery.

[latintopxxx]

mfas...hehehehehe