Time for cheaper thrills?

[Old git]

I doubt that many would disagree that the strong Baht is damaging the oldest profession in Thailand - both gay and straight.

Of course there are economic arguments to explain why the Baht is too high and why it should correct, but over-valued currencies have form for not correcting when people think they ought to.

Now a little story has emerged that the ECB is going to start printing money again, or QE as it is called. The eurozone economy is dangerously weak, so ECB chief Draghi wants to crash the euro further to make exports more competitive.

I don't have any hard numbers, but I'd guess that around half the sex tourism in Thailand is from the eurozone.

Oh for those distant days when sex and beer was so cheap in Thailand you didn't really think about the cost much - taking someone back to your room every night was just a casual routine.

But we are where we are - engaging the services of someone for a whole night is a significant expense for most visitors now, and the eternal irrationality of Thai business sense means that taking someone for an hour short time is only slightly cheaper.

I'd guess almost all single gay and bi guys coming to Thailand have an agenda to get their rocks off most if not every day while they're over, and a hand shandy watching porn on their mobile in a hotel room probably doesn't make the grade.

So what could deliver a profit for the provider, satisfaction for the punter, and not cost too much?

Clearly the ratio of one punter/one boy is the hurdle to cross, so what could several punters do with one boy that would get their rocks off?

A steam room with cute boys receiving bukkake sessions perhaps?

- Just idle thoughts..

[Marsilius]

A few days ago I noticed that the current exchange rate in the UK was only 34 baht to the £. Last Christmas it was 50 baht, so that's a fall of almost a third in the past nine months. In 1993 when I first visited, I got 39 baht to the pound - and that was the lowest figure over the next 26 years, until this year's collapse. Of course, it isn't just the strong baht that will cause problems for UK visitors. The pound has also been severely damaged by the Brexit fiasco. I will certainly be reducing my consumption in all areas on my month's visit at the end of this year.

[arsenal]

I spent about 70000 baht in 11 days. That's from airport to airport and includes everything. Hotel, taxis, bike hire, police fines etc. Flights not included.

For my money I received.....well just read the thread Easy Rider. I received that. I'm not looking for a refund. I am however looking to get through as much again and and soon as possible.

If one converts the baht to pre-Brexit rates then it works out at about £136.00 per day.

The collapse of the British pound is no one's fault but the British.

I know of three Brexiteers who can no longer afford to spend as much time in Thailand as they used to. Poetic justice methinks.

[Old git]

"A few days ago I noticed that the current exchange rate in the UK was only 34 baht to the £. Last Christmas it was 50 baht, so that's a fall of almost a third in the past nine months. In 1993 when I first visited, I got 39 baht to the pound - and that was the lowest figure over the next 26 years, until this year's collapse. Of course, it isn't just the strong baht that will cause problems for UK visitors. The pound has also been severely damaged by the Brexit fiasco. I will certainly be reducing my consumption in all areas on my month's visit at the end of this year."

There's a strange misapprehension here - everyone automatically assumes that the Brexit debacle is trashing sterling - but..

Last Xmas Sterling was at 41.55 - not 50 - and is now at 37.91 - a drop of 9%. The Euro meanwhile was at 37.24 last Xmas and is now at 33.55 - a drop of 10%..

There is a wide expectation that when Brexit finally gets put to bed, one way or the other, the resultant certainty and clarity will provide a boost for sterling, whilst meanwhile the ECB is embarking on a policy of deliberately devaluing it's currency..

[Oliver2]

The real victims are the ex pats. When I briefly considered relocation, the pound was worth 73 bht; thank God I came to my senses in time.

The decline has been dramatic but the most significant cost of the trip, the air- fare, has not fully reflected this. I recall that, in 1995, my first flight from London (EVA) cost about £480. Soon after this, I up-graded to Elite Class and for many years paid around £800. Since the Brexit debacle, I've been paying £900 plus. I could get an Economy flight from a bucket shop for around £550.

Then there is the cost of accommodation. I paid about 550 bht per night at Le Cafe Royal in the late 90s. You can still get the basic rooms at Ambiance for about 800bht and Serene is probably less. Various hotels in Pattaya offer rooms at around 500 or 600bht.

Finally, the cost of eating out has remained relatively low, certainly compared with London. The French places near Tuc Com, which arsenal often mentions, are remarkable value. So are the buffet restaurants in Central like Hotpot and Four Seasons. Thai food is of course even cheaper. P speaks highly of Big C. And there are hundreds of other options. Meanwhile, the classier places are often amazingly cheap; I recently paid 2000 bht for two at Le Bourdeax for three courses plus wine.

[Old git]

Once you get the hang of the Thai 'ethnic' eateries, and realise that despite looking grubby, the food they serve up doesn't actually kill you, you can eat out for very little.

You do need to master a tiny bit of Thai, but it's not that difficult, especially if you set aside the confusing official Thai translations to roman script with their many silent letters, and think of it as simple English phonetics - e.g. Kai Pat Nam Man Hoy - which gets you Chicken in something that purports to be oyster sauce, and is quite tasty.

Bear in mind also that the southern and central Thai cuisine is not at all spicy, but that many of the sex workers hail from Issan where the cuisine is insanely so..

[goji]

I agree the British are responsible for the weak pound, but Brexit isn't the only factor trashing it. A long term balance of trade deficit & the resulting debts have a lot to do with it. It's been obvious for decades that the pound has been at risk of weakening in the long term.
Also, the opposition have a shadow chancellor who wants to kill of capitalism, so the threat of a tax regime which discourages investment will not help. If taxes on investment income go up, some of the capital is diverted elsewhere (e.g. to Ireland).

However, living in Pattaya doesn't exactly break the bank. On my slightly longer trips, the spend comes in comfortably under 5000 baht per day. This is helped by not much drinking & perhaps only 25~33% of my offs are long time. The latter is not an economy measure, it's just that most of the boys like short time and even I don't really like a long time off who struggles to get out of bed by lunch time.

Travelling around northern Thailand is even cheaper, due to low cost hotels, cheap food and a lack of boys to off. Maybe one every 3 days and some of them even just want to be ****ed for pleasure, not money. OK, so if you plan a 10~14 day holiday, perhaps you don't want to waste time doing this. If you are here for several months, then it's good to travel around.

I imagine it's got to the point where anyone with an average UK income & a mortgage might be priced out of the market.
However, if your income is a bit above that and you can budget, it's still an attainable and good value holiday.


The real victims are the ex pats. When I briefly considered relocation, the pound was worth 73 bht; thank God I came to my senses in time. Anyone considering relocation should realise that exchange rates can move all over the place and plan accordingly.

[Marsilius]

Does "****ed" mean ****ed, **** or ****ed?

[cdnmatt]

A steam room with cute boys receiving bukkake sessions perhaps?

- Just idle thoughts..


Oh yeah, let's just allow ourselves to turn into the Indians who do these things. One guy picks up one moneyboy, goes back to the hotel, and surprise, there's actually 5 guys there who proceed to run a train on the poor guy. The Thai moneyboys love that. Jesus...

Besides, if anyone wants to be on the receiving end of a bukkake session, it's me with 10 cute and young Asian lads.

[Oliver2]

Really? Did it happen once? lots of times? not al all? Damned if I know.

[latintopxxx]

...dont think the MB minds the train...he just wants to make sure everyone has a ticket and that the ticket is paid for...afterall saves him having to shower, throw his clothes back on and go to all the trouble of finding aniother customer...doing him a favour actually...he should throw himself onto his knees and praise the Gods

[goji]

For cheaper thrills, perhaps a trip to The Philippines would be an option.

The boys are quite good in bed and seem to have lower financial expectations.

What I haven't figured out is if there are cheaper hotels which are any good, since on my only trip I played safe and paid for a slightly more expensive hotel than I would get in Thailand.

Anyhow, it's not a priority, as I'm not yet priced out of Thailand. Admittedly, I wouldn't spend too many nights in Bangkok gogo bars.

[Moses]

For cheaper thrills, perhaps a trip to The Philippines would be an option.

The boys are quite good in bed and seem to have lower financial expectations.

What I haven't figured out is if there are cheaper hotels which are any good, since on my only trip I played safe and paid for a slightly more expensive hotel than I would get in Thailand.

Anyhow, it's not a priority, as I'm not yet priced out of Thailand. Admittedly, I wouldn't spend too many nights in Bangkok gogo bars.

My trip to Vietnam at past February gave me impression what Vietnam is even better option (I'm talking about Saigon and Vung Tau now). Hotels and food are cheaper than in Thailand, sex is free and variety for to choose is amazing, and big bonus to all that - good coffee almost everywhere...

[frequent]

My trip to Vietnam at past February gave me impression what Vietnam is even better option (I'm talking about Saigon and Vung Tau now). Hotels and food are cheaper than in Thailand, sex is free and variety for to choose is amazing, and big bonus to all that - good coffee almost everywhere...I wonder what bobsaigon thinks about that

[Moses]

I wonder what bobsaigon thinks about that

Why do you wonder? BS is living in Vietnam for years. He for sure knows about Thailand, can compare, and still living in VN.

[latintopxxx]

Love the way Moses replies back in a very dry matter of fact manner ignoring all the inuendo. Anyway am currently in the US and utter rubbish is available at BKK prices, acceptable at USD80 and real nice product starts at 150. So yes Thailand and especially pattaya is very much value for money but once one factors in cost of the flight its not. Boardwalk in Ft Lauderdale had 11 entertainers working the floor (on a slow tuesday they dont even bother dancing on the stage) and 9 were gorgeous, mix of south american and locals, all very eager to take it further. Johnsons was stuffed full of muscle builder types, some bit too beefy, most gorgeous lean muscle physique with terribly handsome features.
If sex is the only requirement and racial mix didnt play a role (didnt see a single asian working boy) then stayong home is far cheaper.

[dinagam]

I'm quite sure that you will return to Thailand just for the temples...

[Moses]

If sex is the only requirement and racial mix didnt play a role (didnt see a single asian working boy) then stayong home is far cheaper.

Did you try to fire Blued there? Usually it is filled with Chinese everywhere.

[goji]

Love the way Moses replies back in a very dry matter of fact manner ignoring all the inuendo. Anyway am currently in the US and utter rubbish is available at BKK prices, acceptable at USD80 and real nice product starts at 150. So yes Thailand and especially pattaya is very much value for money but once one factors in cost of the flight its not. Boardwalk in Ft Lauderdale had 11 entertainers working the floor (on a slow tuesday they dont even bother dancing on the stage) and 9 were gorgeous, mix of south american and locals, all very eager to take it further. Johnsons was stuffed full of muscle builder types, some bit too beefy, most gorgeous lean muscle physique with terribly handsome features.
If sex is the only requirement and racial mix didnt play a role (didnt see a single asian working boy) then stayong home is far cheaper.

1 Your maths depends on how long you amortise the flight cost over. If it's a 90 day holiday, divide the flight cost by 90. Then the cheaper sex pays for the cost of the flight many times over.

2 The holiday is not usually just for sex.

[Dalewood]

….Johnsons was stuffed full of muscle builder types, some bit too beefy, most gorgeous lean muscle physique with terribly handsome features.....

Now when I first glanced at this post, I thought it was about how muscle builder types stuffed their Johnsons. I must read more carefully.

[latintopxxx]

dinagam I'll be the first to admit that cheap plentiful good quality sex is my main motivation to visit Thailand, I do enjoy the carefree spirit in the ntourist zones and I actually love Thai food in Thailand, I rarely eat western in Thailand, be it food or arse. Im yet to find a country which offers the full package at the price Thailand does, maybe i should try Vietnam.
Moses, my mistake I guess, I stick with grindr and for a while had scruff. But not sure blued would be of help, here in southern Florida there are not many asians to be seen, not sure why. Grindr has been good to me so not complaining. Im not terribly fussy when it comes to race, its the lean body Im after...and price.
dalewood, yes a good play on the word, but thats what its called, excellent playful talent, love watching the lean muscle dance on stage stripping to skimpy underwear.

[cdnmatt]

I'm quite sure that you will return to Thailand just for the temples...

I don't know about him, but I know I'm returning for the inflatable swimming pool filled with banana cream filling, and a few cute, gay and naked 19 year olds. That sounds like great fun.

[Manforallseasons]

I don't know about him, but I know I'm returning for the inflatable swimming pool filled with banana cream filling, and a few cute, gay and naked 19 year olds. That sounds like great fun.

F.Y.I. Matt 1 Bitcoin today = approx. 310,000 baht.....up 80,000% since its inception.

[goji]

F.Y.I. Matt 1 Bitcoin today = approx. 310,000 baht.....up 80,000% since its inception.
Once upon a time, Dutch tulip bulbs were trading for the up to $750,000 (adjusted for inflation). Bubbles are nothing new.

[Manforallseasons]

Once upon a time, Dutch tulip bulbs were trading for the up to $750,000 (adjusted for inflation). Bubbles are nothing new.

I wish I had some of these bubbles.

[dinagam]

MFAS is certainly aware of the bubbles, baubles, and marbles in Nice Boy Sunee.

[cdnmatt]

F.Y.I. Matt 1 Bitcoin today = approx. 310,000 baht.....up 80,000% since its inception.

Right, and it's been over 10 years since the inception of bitcoin. What do you think the changes that people, especially on this forum, will stop calling it a ponzi scam and that crap?

I'm not really in that industry anymore anyway. Will enter it again if I have to, but have moved on...

[arsenal]

Good news. The boys of Nice Boys told me they now accept not only cash payments but Bitcoin as well. There are also plans to allow punters to pay in maple syrup and moose antlers.

Thailand awaits Matt's return.

[goji]

What do you think the changes that people, especially on this forum, will stop calling it a ponzi scam and that crap?

To be fair, some rather wealthy people on dedicated financial sites also consider bitcoin to be uninvestable. Bitcoin only has value for as long as people retain confidence.

There was a case where the founder of one of these fantasy currencies "died" and as he had the key, no one else could access their money. No doubt he is living rather well under a different identity.

As for bubbles, http://www.thebubblebubble.com/historic-crashes/

[cdnmatt]

To be fair, some rather wealthy people on dedicated financial sites also consider bitcoin to be uninvestable. Bitcoin only has value for as long as people retain confidence.

There was a case where the founder of one of these fantasy currencies "died" and as he had the key, no one else could access their money. No doubt he is living rather well under a different identity.

Then people should stop thinking of bitcoin as an investment vehicle, because it was never designed or intended to be one. It's intended purpose was a vehicle to send funds globally easily, instantly, and cheaply. That's it, nothing more, and it works excellent for that.

Give you a recent example. Hired a designer out of Florida a while back. He wanted me to pay him via either ApplePay or Zelle (send money via e-mail, basically), but both are only available to US residents. After pissing around for about 3 days trying to figure out how to pay him, I ended up sending the funds to his son's bitcoin account, because it is simply the easiest way to transfer funds across borders. He had the money within 5 minutes of me getting a bitcoin payment address from him.

[Nirish guy]

Sorry guys just while I'm reading the above and if I can deviate just for one quick question as I'm sitting here having a mental blank to a question I've just been asked....

My BF's mother ( who lives here n the UK but still has a house and bank accounts etc in the Philippines too) has about 200000 pesos (i.e about £3k STG once changed) in cash lying in the PH's that she wants to give / send on to my BF ( either in cash or transferred to his UK bank account - Monzo perhaps) but for the life of me I can't think how to get in across with SOME change fees , obviously I'm also trying to ignore / avoid the usual western Union / standard bank lodging in / currency change fees route etc - I know I've done same before very cheaply, but damned if I can remember how - anyone any bright ideas ?

Sorry to the OP for this interlude, just when I seen Matt posting about sending money instantly etc that popped into my head - and no Matt, before you suggest it she wont be trying Bitcoin but thanks anyway :)

[cdnmatt]

Try TransferWise. I've never used it myself, but know it's very popular. Google it.

[goji]

Try TransferWise.

I use Transferwise and highly recommend it, as it is faster and much cheaper than the thieving banks.

HOWEVER, whilst Transferwise can send money from the UK to a long list of countries, the list of countries that can send money back to the UK is much shorter. For example I could send money to Malaysia, but not send money from Malaysia to the UK (not that I sent money to Malaysia).

You might need to do some more research on google. Also, some of the forex companies are complete ****s, as they claim to have very good rates, but you need to sign up to see what the rates are.
For example HiFx. I signed up there before I found Transferwise, but HiFx typically tried to take me for over 1.5%. I used them once, then discovered Transferwise, where the transaction cost is nearer 0.5%.
The same transaction with a bank is about 3%.

[Nirish guy]

Thanks guys and yes transferwise has been mooted by a few friends as well, I actually have an account with them which I'd totally forgotten about so I'll have a look - although as you say goji I've a sneaking suspicion that they don't allow reverse sending TO sterling from the Ph's, but I'll check. Thanks.

* edit - just checked - you're right goji that their fee is 5.5% BUT alas as I feared they dont allow transfer FROM PHP to GBP only GBP to Peso's :-(

[frequent]

It's intended purpose was a vehicle to send funds globally easily, instantly, and cheaply. That's it, nothing more, and it works excellent for that.You left out the one key attribute - anonymity. For the blackmailers, thieves, prostitutes, drug dealers and other assorted criminals who mostly use it for transactions, it's absolutely perfect

[cdnmatt]

You left out the one key attribute - anonymity. For the blackmailers, thieves, prostitutes, drug dealers and other assorted criminals who mostly use it for transactions, it's absolutely perfect

Then go send an angry letter to the NSA, because although nobody knows for sure, as far as I can tell, bitcoin is a NSA project.

Same as Tor and the "dark web" was originally developed by the US Navy. That's simply fact nowadays, although nobody still really knows where bitcoin originated, but my best guess is this was a NSA project.

[frequent]

Then go send an angry letter to the NSA, because although nobody knows for sure, as far as I can tell, bitcoin is a NSA project.

Same as Tor and the "dark web" was originally developed by the US Navy. That's simply fact nowadays, although nobody still really knows where bitcoin originated, but my best guess is this was a NSA project.Christianity was originally a Jewish project but I don’t propose writing to Bibi Netanyahu to complain how it turned out

The really amusing aspect of your post was that someone asked you to make a payment using a real-time instantaneous mode (Apple Pay) and you spent THREE DAYS “working out” how to pay him until you remembered good ol’ Bitcoin

[frequent]

I had a drink in Silom 4 with a retired friend last night. He usually spends a month twice a year in Thailand. This is his last trip, so he says. He's "done the math" and determined that on travel & accommodation to/within Thailand he's spending more than 100,000 baht a year. He's spending the same on "entertainment" while he's here. He claims that for that money he can stay in his home country, eat decent quality food, see his regular friends and family, and be "entertained" at least once a week, every week, by one of the many Asian students who are in his country

[lonelywombat]

Thanks guys and yes transferwise has been mooted by a few friends as well, I actually have an account with them which I'd totally forgotten about so I'll have a look - although as you say goji I've a sneaking suspicion that they don't allow reverse sending TO sterling from the Ph's, but I'll check. Thanks.

* edit - just checked - you're right goji that their fee is 5.5% BUT alas as I feared they dont allow transfer FROM PHP to GBP only GBP to Peso's :-(

Possible you could send via Thailand . The exchange rate for some banks shows they take a bare minimum for exchange , less than 5% of bank charges. They have hundreds of exchange offices in Pattaya and in Thailand. Unsure of the bank name but the one I use is in Tukcom next to McDonalds. They have another 2 in Second Road just near Boyztown. Pattaya locals can give you the name of the bank.
That is at least a start for you.

[goji]

* edit - just checked - you're right goji that their fee is 5.5%
I hope that is a typo and you meant 0.5%, as that's approximately what my transfers cost. Incidentally, I count ALL costs from my UK bank account to the overseas one and compare with the mid-market rate in order to get the 0.5%. .
Beware of advice from people who like to kid themselves that their bank transfer "only" costs £20, when they also lost 3% on the exchange rate and the receiving bank charges a fee on top, both of which they like to ignore so they can forget about being fleeced as fast as possible. Anyway, I suspect you are well familiar with that.

I sometimes receive transfers from people overseas & they pay all fees. Despite them all being educated, I have yet to see any of them find something that competes with Transferwise. So either that's a lack of aptitude, or there isn't yet something that competitive.
It will happen sooner or later.

[gerefan2]

I had a drink in Silom 4 with a retired friend last night. He usually spends a month twice a year in Thailand. This is his last trip, so he says. He's "done the math" and determined that on travel & accommodation to/within Thailand he's spending more than 100,000 baht a year. He's spending the same on "entertainment" while he's here. He claims that for that money he can stay in his home country, eat decent quality food, see his regular friends and family, and be "entertained" at least once a week, every week, by one of the many Asian students who are in his country

Your friend is getting it cheap if he thinks he can get by on spending only 200,000 on two monthly trips to Thailand, all inclusive.

For example if he was traveling from the UK on the cheapest direct flight he would pay £950 = 36100Bt for the two fares. Probably more if he was coming from the USA. That would leave him 63900 for 60 nights accommodation...1065 per night. Does he live in a shoe box like yours?

His spending appears to be 1666 Bt per day all in (100,000/60) . Hardly extravagant.

Last of the big spenders is he?

[Nirish guy]

Can't believe you feel for that obvious one Gerefan ....... as sure everyone knows that Frekky hasn't ever been to Thailand never mind drank in Soi 4 ! :-)

See, there's the rub freaky, when you bullshit as much as you do sometimes people don't know what's bullshit and is actually you trying to have a normal conversation - what's a boy to do eh ! :-)

[frequent]

Your friend is getting it cheap if he thinks he can get by on spending only 200,000 on two monthly trips to Thailand, all inclusive.In your haste to make your usual ad hominem style response you have inadvertently confirmed the point I was making. However among the multiple assumptions you made, your first mistake is to assume* that he pays the same price that you do for airfares. In fact he’s a retired flight attendant so gets “staff travel” rates. However, keep up your fantasy that everyone’s life is like yours, it makes for “interesting” reading

* assume = makes an ass of you and me

[frequent]

Can't believe you feel for that obvious one Gerefan I think you'll find gerefan2 is always up for a good feel

[StevieWonders]

That would leave him 63900 for 60 nights accommodation...1065 per night. Does he live in a shoe box like yours?You got rocks in your head Gere Fan? Its the 21st Century. I do a month at a time in Bangkok and I spend around $750 US ($800 tops) for the entire month for a condo. Theres so many of them on AirBNB. Furnished serviced once a week walking distance to Soi 4 and with WiFi. Friend stays near Sathorn 1 in a condo that does month to month rentals for 18000 baht plus utilities. Get with the program dude.

[StevieWonders]

To be fair, some rather wealthy people on dedicated financial sites also consider bitcoin to be uninvestable. Bitcoin only has value for as long as people retain confidence.It's just a scam and used by scammers. I keep getting emails threatening to show videos of me watching porn sites unless I pay the sender with bitcoin.

[frequent]

In honour of gerefan2's contributions to this thread his constant companion has been awarded this t-shirt:
9200

[cdnmatt]

It's just a scam and used by scammers. I keep getting emails threatening to show videos of me watching porn sites unless I pay the sender with bitcoin.


haha, I get the same e-mails all the time, Telling me they have me on video jerking off to young teen girls on the internet.

I'm gay and blind, so little problem with that one.

[gerefan2]

haha, I get the same e-mails all the time, Telling me they have me on video jerking off to young teen girls on the internet.

I'm gay and blind, so little problem with that one.

Difficult to know who’s telling the truth, if anyone!

[cdnmatt]

Difficult to know who’s telling the truth, if anyone!

Is this about the whole blind thing again? Tought shit, I'm actually blind.

At least CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) think I'm blind, as I'm working with them at the moment.

[frequent]

At least CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) think I'm blind, as I'm working with them at the moment.Do they have a branch in Vientiane once you get there (if ever)?

[cdnmatt]

Do they have a branch in Vientiane once you get there (if ever)?

No, but they do have an entrepreneurship and innovation grant available.

Might have to give a few speeches in exchange, but I'm fairly confident I will get it.

[Kenny]

Referring to the OP. The rising baht is becoming an issue for many of us it seems. I've gone the route of buying a condo which I have rented out for the high season. That way it is available when I visit during the low season, when I visit for up to three months. There is also a useful deposit of Thai baht in my bank account from the rental income, which reduces the holiday costs and exchange rate costs.
I hope to retire to Thailand in the near future, hence the commitment.
I have a friend who has done the same for the same reasons.
Property is very good value at the moment, compared with European winter sun destinations for example.

[frequent]

No, but they do have an entrepreneurship and innovation grant available.

Might have to give a few speeches in exchange, but I'm fairly confident I will get it.Fabulous - you’ve not paid taxes for years but are now happy to suckle at the taxpayers’ teat. Does it mean you will have to stay in Canada?

[Wolzek]

At least CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) think I'm blind, as I'm working with them at the moment.

How can they tell? Aren't they blind?

[cdnmatt]

Fabulous - you’ve not paid taxes for years but are now happy to suckle at the taxpayers’ teat. Does it mean you will have to stay in Canada?

Yeah, I want to get this funded as a typical open source project. That's how about 70% of the software that powers the internet gets funded.

No, I'm not staying in Canada. I'm going to Vientiane to be with Gohn, get a nice house, couple cool dogs again, daily sex with cute 20 year olds everyday, etc.

I don't like Canada. Nobody here is happy, everyone is just busy and "fake happy", if that makes any sense.

[Smiles]

"Fake Happy"Actually I've always thought that that trite little sob-description sounds very much like you. Too a 'T' in fact.

[Blueskytoday]

CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind),,,,,,THINK your blind...don't they really know??

[cdnmatt]

Actually I've always thought that that trite little sob-description sounds very much like you. Too a 'T' in fact.


Well, I'd rather be fake happy than some old grump who wanders around yelling at people all day like you.



CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind),,,,,,THINK your blind...don't they really know??

Or maybe I'm actually just blind. Or maybe the 8 page report from a licensed Canadian optomitrist that I sent them, which states my optic nerves are atropic tipped them off.

[frequent]

Yeah, I want to get this funded as a typical open source project. That's how about 70% of the software that powers the internet gets funded. No, I'm not staying in Canada. I'm going to Vientiane to be with Gohn, get a nice house, couple cool dogs again, daily sex with cute 20 year olds everyday, etc. I don't like Canada. Nobody here is happy, everyone is just busy and "fake happy", if that makes any sense.Just to be absolutely clear then - a Canadian taxpayer-funded body for the disabled is paying you to go and live in a foreign country? You've disclosed to them that that's what you'll be doing if they fund you? Or would you like us to do that for you?

[Smiles]

" ... Well, I'd rather be fake happy than some old grump who wanders around yelling at people all day like you ... "
So you agree ... you are indeed nothing but a fake?
(Real happiness of course is not ~ has never been ~ in your repertoire.)

[cdnmatt]

Just to be absolutely clear then - a Canadian taxpayer-funded body for the disabled is paying you to go and live in a foreign country? You've disclosed to them that that's what you'll be doing if they fund you? Or would you like us to do that for you?

I don't know who's going to fund this, but my goal at the moment is to try and get it funded as a typical open source project. If required, I will go the commercial software route, but I'd prefer to just concentrate my efforts on helping other software developers via the open source route. Who knows, maybe Sun Microsystems will help fund it. They did pick up Orca at least, the screen reader I use.



So you agree ... you are indeed nothing but a fake?
(Real happiness of course is not ~ has never been ~ in your repertoire.)

Oh no, I've definitely been truly happy and fulfilled before, and definitely far happier than you come off in your poists. You seem to bitch just for the sake of bitching.

You're Canadian, so I'm sure you know what I mean by the "fake happy" comment. Everyone just busies and occupies themselves with whatever project comes to their mind, so they don't get depressed, and they pass it off as happiness because they're busy. I'm sure you know what I mean by that.

[frequent]

I don't know who's going to fund this, but my goal at the moment is to try and get it funded as a typical open source project. If required, I will go the commercial software route, but I'd prefer to just concentrate my efforts on helping other software developers via the open source route. Who knows, maybe Sun Microsystems will help fund it. They did pick up Orca at least, the screen reader I use.Just another wet dream then? Weren’t you hoping the Russian mafia were going to fund it but you couldn’t deliver?

[cdnmatt]

Just another wet dream then? Weren’t you hoping the Russian mafia were going to fund it but you couldn’t deliver?


Yeah, but that was then, and this is now, and the project is 100% ready to go and live. I've only been pushing it for 36 hours, so give it some time here.

[latintopxxx]

I'm so bored now....

[cdnmatt]

I'm so bored now....

Then go buy an inflatable swimming pool, a bunch of whip cream, hire a few cute 19 year old hookers, and you won't be bored anymore.

See, I'm a problem solver! :)

[latintopxxx]

LOL...love the suggestion

[stevelovescum]

Oh yeah, let's just allow ourselves to turn into the Indians who do these things. One guy picks up one moneyboy, goes back to the hotel, and surprise, there's actually 5 guys there who proceed to run a train on the poor guy. The Thai moneyboys love that. Jesus...

Besides, if anyone wants to be on the receiving end of a bukkake session, it's me with 10 cute and young Asian lads.

I couldn't agree more. Wish I knew how to arrange for a bukkake session with me being on the receiving end. Any suggestions? I know it won't be free.

[mr giggles]

Good news. The boys of Nice Boys told me they now accept not only cash payments but Bitcoin as well.

The more in demand MB's accept American Express, just bend them over and run the card down the slot.

[mr giggles]

Your friend is getting it cheap if he thinks he can get by on spending only 200,000 on two monthly trips to Thailand, all inclusive.

For example if he was traveling from the UK on the cheapest direct flight he would pay £950 = 36100Bt for the two fares. Probably more if he was coming from the USA. That would leave him 63900 for 60 nights accommodation...1065 per night. Does he live in a shoe box like yours?

His spending appears to be 1666 Bt per day all in (100,000/60) . Hardly extravagant.

Last of the big spenders is he?

Sounds like one of those people that Oscar Wilde described as knowing: The Price Of Everything But The Value Of Nothing