Hello Playmates!

[joe552]

I haven't gone away, you know (NIrish, colmx, Ronan - you might get the reference). I've become a lurker. I read the forum regularly, but don't feel I've anything to contribute at the moment, so don't post (oh, please, don't start again, I hear you cry).

I hadn't planned a visit to Thailand for a couple of years, but I'm looking at unlocking my very small pension fund and may be able to go back sooner than expected. So a couple of questions.

On my last visits, I've stayed at Mosaik and Yensabai. I'd happily stay at either one again. Are there now other similar places I should look at? I like to be close to Sunee, but is that now a dead zone? Should I look elsewhere? I prefer the privacy of an apartment over a hotel.

So what are you doing with your life, Joe? Well, I consider myself a full-time writer. The Irish government, perversely, considers me unemployed. A couple of members bought my book "Home to Si Saket" - I'm very grateful to them. In all, I've published 9 books (ok, self-published, all available on Amazon). I'm now on the 4th in a series about an 18 year old Dubliner who joins the Royal Navy to see the world. Check out 'Bound for Valparaiso'.

And my final question for today - am I the only gay man who doesn't fuck? I've been looking for a playmate, and as soon as I say I don't fuck, they go silent. I've been locked in my garret for too long

I hope you are well. I enjoy reading of your adventures. Stay happy!



Hope all of you are well. I'll keep you posted on my plans (whether you like it or not).

[Manforallseasons]

Joe no big changes in Sunee since your last visit.Yensabi looks very shabby lately, Mosaic is a bit worn but well situated in either place you won’t be able to avoid the Arabs, as for fucking do they really want fuck you or are they less than pleased you do not want to fuck them?

[frequent]

Joe no big changes in Sunee since your last visit.Yensabi looks very shabby lately, Mosaic is a bit worn but well situated in either place you won’t be able to avoid the Arabs, as for fucking do they really want fuck you or are they less than pleased you do not want to fuck them?I wonder the bars don't hire MFAS to promote their charms

[gerefan2]

you won’t be able to avoid the Arabs,


Two ways of avoiding them if you are flexible with dates.
1. Come during Ramadan
2. Come during their coldest weather (they escape their heat and come to Pattaya). So anytime between December and March is good.

[Oliver2]

The best way to avoid meeting people of different races is to barricade yourself in your fortress in your own country, like Citizen Kane. Those pesky foreigners! how dare they spoil your foreign holidays.
Please wear a red-neck identification- whatever that is....a white sheet?- or a MAGA cap so that the rest of us can keep clear.

[frequent]

The best way to avoid meeting people of different races is to barricade yourself in your fortress in your own country, like Citizen Kane.I do so agree Oliver2. As the Forum's Living Treasure (and pattayaphile) lonelywombat will tell you, I've never left my birthplace here in Houston and certainly never been to Thailand or even Pattaya

[francois]

Elephant Plaza Hotel

[Jellybean]

. . . And my final question for today - am I the only gay man who doesn't fuck? I've been looking for a playmate, and as soon as I say I don't fuck, they go silent . . .

Hello joe552! Great to see you back posting again.

To answer one of your questions, I believe cndmatt has, on more than one occasion, informed us that he is not a fan of fucking. Incidentally, and slightly off topic, as we haven’t heard much from cdnmatt recently, I wonder if he has left Canada and moved to Laos.

And tell me, Joe, were you ever a fan of the British comedian Arthur Askey?


https://youtu.be/TPguyeBFQPs

Annnnd thank you! ;)

[frequent]

Incidentally, and slightly off topic, as we haven’t heard much from cdnmatt recently, I wonder if he has left Canada and moved to Laos.Or locked up in another Immigration prison?

[Manforallseasons]

Two ways of avoiding them if you are flexible with dates.
1. Come during Ramadan
2. Come during their coldest weather (they escape their heat and come to Pattaya). So anytime between December and March is good.

I was lucky that I was able to sell the condo I lived in it became a favorite for Arabs, the worst time was in the summer when mostly Kuwaiti guys come as it is their summer break, the first thing they do is get the biggest motorcycle they can rent, sleep all day and tear around Sunee from evening through 8:00 am, they have a total disregard for others ignoring no smoking signs leaving their garbage in the hallways and their doors open.

[christianpfc]

And my final question for today - am I the only gay man who doesn't fuck? I've been looking for a playmate, and as soon as I say I don't fuck, they go silent.
No. I have two friends who do not engage in anal intercourse at all and are happy and have no problem finding partners in Thailand, and for me it's not important.

I call it "cultural imperialism of the pornographic industry". Nowadays it's safe to assume that every boy in the world has watched a lot of porn before engaging int he real thing. And most porn is about fucking, that's why most people can't think outside "top/bottom".

I used not to like that question "Are you top or bottom" early in a conversation, but know I have gotten to like it, because the alternatives are "Can I borrow 2000 THB for rent" and "No sex before marriage".

[frequent]

And my final question for today - am I the only gay man who doesn't fuck? I've been looking for a playmate, and as soon as I say I don't fuck, they go silent. I've been locked in my garret for too long.I understand Noel Coward had no interest in anal sex so you're in good company. I had a 3sum with a Thai and a really good-looking Cambodian guy late last year (they must have been visiting Houston, I suppose). The only thing the Cambodian would do was take the active role in fucking because "I a man"

[joe552]

I don't have a problem with Arabs, apart from their motorbike habits.

[joe552]

Wasn't he a funny man, all the same? My childhood. This is in reply to the post about Arthur Askey.

[Jellybean]

And tell me, Joe, were you ever a fan of the British comedian Arthur Askey?


Wasn't he a funny man, all the same? My childhood. This is in reply to the post about Arthur Askey.

Yes Joe, I found him a very funny man. And like you, he is a childhood memory of mine.

And were you a fan of any of the following from roughly the same time period: Billy Bunter, Jimmy Edwards in Whacko, Mr Pastry, The Little Rascals (I saw them every Saturday morning at the Odeon Cinema, which we referred to as the "pictures"), Tony Hancock, Charlie Drake, Ken Dodd and Frankie Howerd. And from the USA – Laurel & Hardy and Abbot & Costello.

[frequent]

... Jimmy Edwards in Whacko ...Wasn't Jimmy Edwards in the closet? I think I recall something in News of the Screws (or similar) about him and a drag queen. Of course dear June Whitfield, who worked with Jimmy Edwards in The Glums, died recently

[arsenal]

Jellybean wrote.
"And were you a fan of...Laurel & Hardy..."

The recent movie, Stan & Ollie is a master class in how to make a masterpiece on a miniscule budget. $10m.
Quite superb and the deft, dry as a bone humour is provided by the exceptional supporting cast playing the wives and the tour manager, Bernard Delfont.

Trivia point. Stan Laurel went to America on the same boat as Charlie Chaplin and worked as his understudy for a while.

[gerefan2]

Yes I remember all those stars at the pictures too on a Saturday morning.
Won’t say any more otherwise someone will start to carbon date me (us).

[Jellybean]

Wasn't Jimmy Edwards in the closet? I think I recall something in News of the Screws (or similar) about him and a drag queen. Of course dear June Whitfield, who worked with Jimmy Edwards in The Glums, died recently

Well, well, well frequent, no I was not aware that Jimmy Edwards was in the closet – see the extract below from Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Edwards):


He was married to Valerie Seymour for 11 years. During the 1970s, however, he was outed as a homosexual, to his annoyance. After the ending of his marriage, press reports spoke of his engagement to Joan Turner, the actress, singer and comedian, but the reports were suspected to be a mutual publicity stunt. During the 2015 Gold documentary Frankie Howerd: The Lost Tapes Edwards was mentioned by Barry Cryer as one of several performers of the post-war era forced to conceal their homosexuality due to prevailing norms. He lived in Fletching, East Sussex and died from pneumonia in London in 1988 at the age of 68


The recent movie, Stan & Ollie is a master class in how to make a masterpiece on a miniscule budget. $10m . . .

I wholeheartedly agree arsenal, Stan & Ollie (https://youtu.be/MdcBNrjc3wo)was one of the best movies I have seen in a very long time. Although, surprisingly sad at times.


Yes I remember all those stars at the pictures too on a Saturday morning.
Won’t say any more otherwise someone will start to carbon date me (us).

Great post gerefan2, it made me laugh out loud.

Apologies to joe552, I am afraid we have rather hijacked your original topic. In mitigation I would say there is a link to the topic title, although I admit it is somewhat tenuous.

[Nirish guy]

Yes I remember all those stars at the pictures too on a Saturday morning.
Won’t say any more otherwise someone will start to carbon date me (us).

Hurray for Harold Lloyd !! That's all I'm saying - ok carbon date away there - but you'll be wrong anyway :-)

Our pictures were just mean and played loads of oldies ( a bit like the boys in Pattaya now that I think of it ! :-))) But at least you could pay in with a jam jar sometimes apparently and or crash the emergency exit to let all your mates in free before "the man" came, only thing you learnt quickly not to do was sit down at the front as you could end up with wet feet on a saturday morning when the dirty lazy buggers behind you didn't want to miss any of the film !!! They were a tough bunch in Sandy row they were ! :)

Me personally I was more a Champion the Wonder Horse, the Lone Ranger and and Flash Gordon ( the original ) sort of guy - and one who always used the facilities - see, cruising the bogs even way back then it seems ! lol

[frequent]

One of my favourite monologues is Frankie Howerd sending up Harold Macmillan’s budget by blaming “Dot” - Macmillan’s wife Lady Dorothy - https://youtu.be/YjVIpwqquDA. In the BBC mockumentary W1A there’s a Frankie Howerd room with some of his best known quips all over the walls

[frequent]

On reviewing it was his Cabinet reshuffle not his Budget

[frequent]

Joe no big changes in Sunee since your last visit.Yensabi looks very shabby lately, Mosaic is a bit worn but well situated in either place you won’t be able to avoid the Arabs, as for fucking do they really want fuck you or are they less than pleased you do not want to fuck them?Back on topic - a rant from someone on Thaivisa about Pattaya that's germane to MFAS & gerefan2's posts -
"After living in Jomtien for 9 yrs..........I have many reasons to have left and moved north 4.5 yrs ago. T V rules don’t allow bashing places in Thailand and I was sanctioned for it before...........if. You have lived in Pattaya Jomtien area for any amount of time.......use your imagination. Pattaya is a sole.....one purpose destination. If you just spent 28 days offshore or 8-12 weeks in the Middle East or some other crap place and you want to go drink and play and get stress relieved Pattaya is for you. Beyond that........there is no attraction"

[Oliver2]

"The one purpose destination" happens to be one which is barely accessible elsewhere for us more mature gentlemen, or at least not so comfortably and safely. Don't knock it!
Not that I'd ever dream of living there....London remains, of course, the Centre of the Universe and we Londoners the most fortunate citizens of the world. At least until Brexit turns us all into Little Englanders.

[frequent]

"The one purpose destination" happens to be one which is barely accessible elsewhere for us more mature gentlemen, or at least not so comfortably and safely. Don't knock it!
Not that I'd ever dream of living there....London remains, of course, the Centre of the Universe and we Londoners the most fortunate citizens of the world. At least until Brexit turns us all into Little Englanders.Don't you fit the profile perfectly anyway? Only there for a brief holiday, not settling there

[arsenal]

"Pattaya, a one purpose destination!"
Clearly not doing it right.

Great food literally on every street corner.
Great sex. Ditto.
Great countryside to ride a motorbike around.
Great shopping if that's your thing.
Two world class water parks. Again if that's your thing.
Great hotels for every budget.
Great sense of expectations as the night falls.
Great place to party. Very unusual not to find a party swinging until 3 or 4am in one of the gay areas.
3 Great gay areas. *
Great (magnificent) golf courses. About 30 within an hours drive.
Great people who are very forgiving of foreigners and their ways.
Great go go bars with boys in underwear available to offer sexual services at an incredibly reasonable price. Currently 10 which is 10 more than anywhere else.

* Sure. Not as great as in times of yore but still pissing all over the rest of the world.

[francois]

arsenal, I do agree with you except the great go-go bar scene these days;it once was great but now not so great. :(

The only thing I know of golf courses is a certain lad whose name is Golf and he is great.:heart:

[joe552]

Well, didn't this turn into an interesting thread? Rather like a night in the bar, where the conversation veers from one topic to another. Jellybean, of the people you mention, my favourite is Tony Hancock. His show with Sid James is brilliant. And of course, Frankie Howerd. I didn't know about Jimmy Edwards either.

I still don't know if I'm actually going or not, but I'm hopeful. Arsenal, I agree with your assessment - apart from the water parks and golf. I don't think I could live there though. Thanks for all the replies, on and off topic.

[arsenal]

Plus a couple of international standard polo clubs.
The best zoo I've ever been to.
Flight of the Gibbon.
Parasailing, windsurfing, paragliding, snorkelling, scuba diving, jet skiing (DON'T).
An aquarium.
A dolphin show.
Bang Saray, still a genuine sleepy fishing village.
Go-carting.
Off road biking or driving.
And the world's greatest collection of truly rubbish visitor attractions where you can get up close and personal with the horrors of a Chinese tour group.

[Manforallseasons]

I still don't know if I'm actually going or not, but I'm hopeful. Arsenal, I agree with your assessment - apart from the water parks and golf. I don't think I could live there though. Thanks for all the replies, on and off topic.

Joe as I recall the most interesting part of your last was not he trip itself but rather the foreplay before your trip ie. will I find the boy? If I do will he meet me? He will or not bring his family etc. If you do have another trip please update all new pertinent information.

[Andaman!]

The only thing I know of golf courses is a certain lad whose name is Golf and he is great.:heart:

Tell us more...... has a long club? Big head on his driver? Packs a wedge in his bag? Shoots a big shot? Finds the hole in one? Enjoys a bit of rough? Never loses a ball? A wide open fairway? Knows how to have some fun in the bunker?

[Nirish guy]

And has a hole so small you need to stick a flag in it to even find it !

[DrewSpz]

Someone mentioned elephant plaza. I’m actually passing through Pattaya and my usual Mosaik isn’t available. So I’m trying this Elephant Plaza. I can imagine it’s very simple and no thrills. Hope the WiFi is okay. If anyone has any feedback on this place, let me know. Just in case I need to go elsewhere. Thanks :-)

[a447]

I can imagine it’s very simple and no thrills.

Yep, that sums it up perfectly.

I've stayed there on numerous occasions over the years.

It is a bit run-down but the room is cleaned every day and it is actually quite large, especially the bathroom. And the WiFi is fine. Check the air-conditioner to make sure it's not noisy.

Just don't be tempted to sit on the sofa - I don't think it has ever been cleaned and is held together but the copious amounts of cum sqirted on it over the years.

Oh, and there is no elevator, so best get a room on a lower floor if you can't handle steep stairs.

[Smiles]

" ... the copious amounts of cum sqirted on it over the years ... "Hey, enjoy yourself, it's Songkran.

[francois]

Although I nevers lodged at Elephant Plaza I did check out the rooms (a suite on the second floor) for a friend and it appeared quite ok.

[kittyboy]

Although I nevers lodged at Elephant Plaza I did check out the rooms (a suite on the second floor) for a friend and it appeared quite ok.

I stayed there a few years ago. It was nice enough..but one design feature threw me off.
The glass walled bathroom! When I am on the toilet loosening my bowels, doing a colon evacuation, doing a discharge in the poo basin ..etc. I don't like the feeling I am in a fish bowl with someone else possibly watching.

[a447]

Not a problem for me, kittyboy. I just drew the bathroom curtain across for privacy.

Did your room not have a curtain??

[kittyboy]

Not a problem for me, kittyboy. I just drew the bathroom curtain across for privacy.

Did your room not have a curtain??

I dont recall that the glass batheoom wall had a curtain. It is also possible that it was there but i was too thick to notice and use it.

[francois]

. I don't like the feeling I am in a fish bowl with someone else possibly watching.

Like the kitty watching the fish in the bowl? 555

[sglad]

I've stayed there on numerous occasions over the years.


Out of curiosity, what was The Elephant Plaza called before they decided to name it after its guests?

[francois]

Out of curiosity, what was The Elephant Plaza called before they decided to name it after its guests?

At one time it was known as Amigo Bar; wanna know more?:eek:

[arsenal]

As Sunee seems to be tragically heading towards eventual extinction perhaps it should be renamed Mammoth Plaza.

[a447]

Wasn't it once called the Don Plaza?

[francois]

Yes, Don Plaza preceded Elephant Plaza. Amigo was even previous to that.

[gerefan2]

As Sunee seems to be tragically heading towards eventual extinction perhaps it should be renamed Mammoth Plaza.


It should be renamed Saudi Plaza

[sglad]

It should be renamed Saudi Plaza

In the middle of a (former) gay mecca? How apt.

[sglad]

At one time it was known as Amigo Bar; wanna know more?:eek:

Yes, please. From friend to mafioso to Elephantidae...makes sense because in Pattaya your friend could be a mafioso and an elephant.

[francois]

Yes, please. From friend to mafioso to Elephantidae...makes sense because in Pattaya your friend could be a mafioso and an elephant.

Obviously sglad, you know little of Amigo Bar (maybe to your credit).:unknw_mini:

[joe552]

Rumours of the death of Sunee seem as old as the internet itself. Yet, I had fun there last year, and hope to again (whenever). I don't know why I prefer it to Boyztown?

[kittyboy]

Rumours of the death of Sunee seem as old as the internet itself. Yet, I had fun there last year, and hope to again (whenever). I don't know why I prefer it to Boyztown?
Hey Joe
I agree the demise of sunee has been long predicted but Sunee does seem to be on the decline. I was in pattaya last summer and Sunee does seem to have gotten darker with fewer bars. I will visit this summer and will stay in jomtien which seems more lively.

Sunee seems run down and derelict so maybe the predicted soon demise is true??

[kittyboy]

As Sunee seems to be tragically heading towards eventual extinction perhaps it should be renamed Mammoth Plaza.
Nice one. I would add.
Wooly mammoth.