Got Stealthed - Where can I get PEP on a Sunday? [Archive] - Sawatdee Gay Thailand the oldest and most popular gay forum on Thailand and South East Asia

spaghetios

November 17th, 2018, 23:21

scottish-guy

November 18th, 2018, 02:36

Christ - I hope somebody help this guy he has very limited time for PEP to be effective

Manforallseasons

November 18th, 2018, 03:35

Check this out: https://www.pulse-clinic.com/pep/
Also Bumrungrad Hospital

Mancs

November 18th, 2018, 03:38

(Manforallseasons got there before me)

This may be worth calling the number:
https://www.pulse-clinic.com/pep/

If no use I would try calling the major private hospitals, like Bumrungrad and BNH on Soi Convent to see if they would do it on a Sunday. Or just walk in to ask. I read one has to start taking the tablets within 72 hours.

sglad

November 18th, 2018, 09:51

Thanks to MFAS and Mancs for responding. I hope the OP gets access to the treatment that he needs ASAP. He might also want to get advice from the doctors at Pulse as to what he should do about the criminal act that has been committed upon him. They've heard it all before and would be able to give the appropriate advice - at the very least a police report, I should think.

Moses/Jellybean, perhaps you guys should consider collating info such as the above and having it pinned somewhere under "emergency healthcare" or something similar.

Blacktouch

November 18th, 2018, 15:32

colmx

November 18th, 2018, 21:06

Hope you got sorted Spaghetios
I know of one ex-Pattaya MB who has moved to Bkk and allegedly does this regularly...
Apparently he got HIV from his ex-farang BF and is keen to infect as many farang as possible for "revenge"

Manforallseasons

November 18th, 2018, 21:45

I know of one ex-Pattaya MB who has moved to Bkk and allegedly does this regularly...
Apparently he got HIV from his ex-farang BF and is keen to infect as many farang as possible for "revenge"
I also know a MB from Pattaya with HIV that has moved to BKK after infecting his falang BF and goes with many falangs that do not know his status....I wonder if it is the same boy?

colmx

November 18th, 2018, 22:24

I wonder if it is the same boy?

PM sent

Blacktouch

November 18th, 2018, 23:57

Others should be made aware of such people to prevent others falling victim. Are we allowed to name on here?

colmx

November 19th, 2018, 00:06

Others should be made aware of such people to prevent others falling victim. Are we allowed to name on here?

I'm pretty sure the answer to that question is a firm NO! All too easy for someone with an agenda to name someone that they have fallen out with

By the way myself and MFAS have conferred by PM and the ex-Pattaya MB that we both know of is not the same guy... so this kind of thing might be more prevalent than most think

Blacktouch

November 19th, 2018, 00:43

I'm pretty sure the answer to that question is a firm NO! All too easy for someone with an agenda to name someone that they have fallen out with

By the way myself and MFAS have conferred by PM and the ex-Pattaya MB that we both know of is not the same guy... so this kind of thing might be more prevalent than most think

Agree, naming such people on here is not practical or allowed. But these people who do these kind of things should be reported to the Police, so something can be done.

spaghetios

November 19th, 2018, 01:28

Hello,

Thank you for your responses.

I went to Pulse and got the medication I need. I have been informed by various sources that this type of thing is common and may not always be true however in this case, I believe it was.

The vermin in question was not a professional MB but MB'd on the side. I was not paying him for intercourse and that wasn't even discussed but he shared it with me.

I was off Prep for a month as I didn't plan on doing the deed for a while so, it made things slightly more panicky but at least I have the meds now.

Blacktouch

November 19th, 2018, 04:04

a447

November 19th, 2018, 06:27

There were 2 guys who are allegedly hiv+ working in a popular bar in Bangkok. I warned members at the time.

It was common knowledge among the guys in the soi.

Although I didn't mention their names or the bar concerned, some members did PM me for the information.

They were apparently still working there earlier this year. I don't know if they are still there.

No allegation was made that they were not practising save sex or that they were trying to infect others.

This thread has been a timely warning for us all. Thank God it appears to have ended well for the member concerned.

The question is, what, if anything, are the authorities doing about this guy who is deliberately spreading the disease? Have they been made aware of his behaviour?

sglad

November 19th, 2018, 08:01

Hello,

Thank you for your responses.

I went to Pulse and got the medication I need...I was off Prep for a month as I didn't plan on doing the deed for a while so, it made things slightly more panicky but at least I have the meds now.

I'm happy for you and thank you for sharing - somebody, somewhere is going to learn from your experience. Remember to take your meds as prescribed!:)

sglad

November 19th, 2018, 08:10

The question is, what, if anything, are the authorities doing about this guy who is deliberately spreading the disease? Have they been made aware of his behaviour?

The authorities can only take action if a police report has been made; in many jurisdictions, deliberately trying to infect someone with HIV counts as attempted murder. But reporting is not easy for the victim as he or she finds himself or herself in a similar position to a rape victim. The stigma, stress, fear of ridicule and not being believed may discourage victims from coming forward, probably more so in MSM situations. Hence incidents like this, like rape, are under-reported and the perpetrators get away scot-free.

Brad the Impala

November 19th, 2018, 13:14

Hi,

I had sex with a guy two days ago who, just today, told me that he ripped the top off the condom, stealthed me and is HIV+ and not on meds because 'he looks after his health'.

I'm actually wondering how easy it would be to "rip the top off the condom" anyway, and certainly without it being noticed. It's possible, perhaps more likely, that this is just a story that the guy told you afterwards for his own reasons.

a447

November 19th, 2018, 14:25

The authorities can only take action if a police report has been made; in many jurisdictions, deliberately trying to infect someone with HIV counts as attempted murder. But reporting is not easy for the victim as he or she finds himself or herself in a similar position to a rape victim. The stigma, stress, fear of ridicule and not being believed may discourage victims from coming forward, probably more so in MSM situations. Hence incidents like this, like rape, are under-reported and the perpetrators get away scot-free.

On top of that, telling the police that you had sex with a prostitute may put you in more trouble.

spaghetios

November 19th, 2018, 15:38

I'm actually wondering how easy it would be to "rip the top off the condom" anyway, and certainly without it being noticed. It's possible, perhaps more likely, that this is just a story that the guy told you afterwards for his own reasons.

Unfortunately, “Stealthing” is a real thing so I’m not sure. Either way, when someone says that it’s better to be safe than sorry.

christianpfc

November 21st, 2018, 16:16

For research purposes, I kept a condom after use, rinsed it thoroughly with water and let it dry. (I wouldn't want to waste a new condom for the following experiment.)

I found it impossible to rip off the tip of the condom with my hands. Or to rip it apart in the long axis. You can easily poke a hole in the latex, but I couldn't rip it in two pieces.

Biting off the tip, however, is easy.
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The story serves as a reminder to check if the top if using a condom, and if it's intact, when bottoming. Judging by the number of boys who offer to fuck me bareback, or who would get fucked bareback, use of condoms is in decline.

Newbie99

November 21st, 2018, 18:36

Yep. It is exceptional for a MB to use a condom unprompted these days.

Blacktouch

November 21st, 2018, 19:36

The story serves as a reminder to check if the top if using a condom, and if it's intact, when bottoming. Judging by the number of boys who offer to fuck me bareback, or who would get fucked bareback, use of condoms is in decline.

Could this be because of PreP, where more people who are on this are now having more bareback sex?

I doubt the MB's are on PreP?

kittyboy

November 21st, 2018, 22:12

Hi,

I had sex with a guy two days ago who, just today, told me that he ripped the top off the condom, stealthed me and is HIV+ and not on meds because 'he looks after his health'.

Obviously this wasn't great news.

Where can I get PEP on a Sunday as the Red Cross AIDS clinic is closed?

Thank you

I am a volunteer at an hiv testing site.
My suggestion. Go to the thai red cross and ask for a viral load test. It can detect an hiv infection as soon as 1 week after infection. It will cost you i am guessing 2000-3000 baht. But knowing your status and avoiding weeks of worry until an anti body test is accurate may be worth the price.
Just a siggestion on my part. Good luck. Share the goid or bad news if you are so inclined.

colmx

November 22nd, 2018, 00:53

I found it impossible to rip off the tip of the condom with my hands. Or to rip it apart in the long axis. You can easily poke a hole in the latex, but I couldn't rip it in two pieces..
I'm guessing that (unlike most Thai guys) you probably don't have a razor sharp long nail on your little finger that you use regularly for picking your nose and slicing through plastic packaging! It could easily be used to puncture the teat of a condom...

Perhaps you should grow long nails as phase 2 of the scientific experiment!

scottish-guy

November 22nd, 2018, 01:41

No need to grow 'em- it seems the whole world has Nail Bars on every main street these days.

Quite what they'd think of Christian crossing the threshold and asking for ONE razor sharp false nail to be glued on to a pinky as an experiment - is anybody's guess, but it would make a great blog post!

frequent

November 22nd, 2018, 06:17

On the good news front there’s a suspicion that HIV drugs may be effective in the treatment of Alzheimer’s http://www.newscientist.com/article/2186180-morphing-brain-dna-hints-at-a-whole-new-way-to-treat-alzheimers/

A “double whammy” for some of our members?

christianpfc

November 23rd, 2018, 20:28

My first experiment - brute force - did not damage the condom.

No trying to cut it with my fingernails (I keep them short, less than 2 mm) did not damage the condom either. I guess the length of the fingernail has no influence on the sharpness.

But the puncturing would be done on condom as it comes out of the wrap. So I rolled the condom up to its original form, and then tried to puncture it. That's easy, but the hole is big and the sides are uneven. You would notice on first look that something is wrong.

More about condoms. You can blow up a condom to over 10 Liter volume before it rips, or pull it over your head. I tried. In biology class during sexual education we got a (one) condom each (I don't remember if only boys or girls as well got one). I found it very useful for wanking, as you don't have to pay attention where the cum goes. So I used estimated 5 years about once per month = 60 times until it finally ripped. (That does not mean I used to wank once per month in my youth, but those occasions where I used the condom were once per month. Afterwards I had to rinse it and dry it and keep it hidden.)

gerefan2

November 23rd, 2018, 22:10

I found it very useful for wanking, as you don't have to pay attention where the cum goes. So I used estimated 5 years about once per month = 60 times until it finally ripped. (That does not mean I used to wank once per month in my youth, but those occasions where I used the condom were once per month. Afterwards I had to rinse it and dry it and keep it hidden.)

Is that a German thing?

Eddie

November 26th, 2018, 02:19

I'm actually wondering how easy it would be to "rip the top off the condom" anyway, and certainly without it being noticed. It's possible, perhaps more likely, that this is just a story that the guy told you afterwards for his own reasons.

This is no way implying what spaghetios did or did not do, but sober sex seems to be becoming more & more rare these days among the young & partying set. The bottom may not even be aware if the entire condom was ripped off if he was high.

scottish-guy

November 26th, 2018, 05:05

The perils of drink.

I’m glad I’m not an alcofrolic like you lot.

:drink:

sglad

November 27th, 2018, 02:49

The perils of drink.

I’m glad I’m not an alcofrolic like you lot.

:drink:

scottish-guy, non-sober sex could mean using other stimulants besides alcohol - we call it CF or chem fun here.

scottish-guy

November 27th, 2018, 04:36

Drugs now?

Good Lord - is there no end to the perversity of gay desperadoes on this forum - it’s like Sodom and Tomorra’

dinagam

November 27th, 2018, 06:59

There's always a tomorrow in Gomorra.

Smiles

November 27th, 2018, 09:42

Is that a German thing?No, it's a Christian thing. Undoubtedly Lutheran.

scottish-guy

November 27th, 2018, 11:01

Actually I suspect it's just a teenage boy thing - if I revealed the things I did and the materials/apparatus I identified/devised/adapted as wanking aids it would read like a pervert's guide.

These days I am not just Vanilla, but as near to Brilliant White as possible compared to when I had hormones all over the place :D

frequent

November 27th, 2018, 12:16

These days I am not just Vanilla, but as near to Brilliant White as possible compared to when I had hormones all over the place :DTo the pure all things are slightly impure

christianpfc

November 27th, 2018, 14:07

More fun with condoms. I blew up a condom (a used and rinsed one, I woulnd't want to waste a new one, anyway the new ones come lubed) and put it on a holder for balloons that I got from a festival (here again: used). Surprisingly clear, you can read a newspaper looking through two layers of latex. As you can see, it's not even fully inflated, there is still space at the closed end, but I needed space at the open end to connect it to the holder.

8480

Smiles

November 27th, 2018, 19:12

According to Latinpoxonu that's close to his size. Hard to find, much less use.

Brad the Impala

November 27th, 2018, 23:39

According to Latinpoxonu that's close to his size. Hard to find, much less use.

And full of hot air.

DoubleDutch

November 28th, 2018, 23:39

Andaman!

November 29th, 2018, 00:45

ChristianPFC, have you ever rinsed, dried, and used a condom twice?

Be honest now!

Only twice? With ChristianPFC’s parsimonious lifestyle, I would expect him to milk many more than two sessions out of each condom.

sglad

November 30th, 2018, 05:02

Drugs now?

Good Lord - is there no end to the perversity of gay desperadoes on this forum - it’s like Sodom and Tomorra’

S-G, surely you've heard of high/wired fun in the UK?

scottish-guy

November 30th, 2018, 11:47

S-G, surely you've heard of high/wired fun in the UK?

Yes, but not usually involving octogeranians

frequent

November 30th, 2018, 13:34

Impulse

December 1st, 2018, 13:36

They’ve been telling us that for years.

dinagam

December 1st, 2018, 15:23

Hope springs eternal.

kittyboy

December 2nd, 2018, 07:34

Sadly for the Maiden Aunt brigade it looks like there may be a cure for HIV. I guess they’ll have to find something else to purse their lips about - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/30/cure-for-hiv-world-aids-day
And there may not be a "CURE" anytime soon depending on the ability of scientists and doctors to create new drugs, new drug therapies, and or approaches to treatment.
A feel good story for international aids day..not much else.

sglad

December 2nd, 2018, 18:01

Yes, but not usually involving octogeranians

You kidding me? The octo set are the biggest partyers around. In Pattaya, their 'cocktail' of choice is V, F and PJ.

kittyboy

December 2nd, 2018, 18:19

You kidding me? The octo set are the biggest partyers around. In Pattaya, their 'cocktail' of choice is V, F and PJ.

Hmm..i need that to be decoded.
V = viagra?
F = ?
PJ = ?

sglad

December 2nd, 2018, 18:46

Hmm..i need that to be decoded.
V = viagra?
F = ?
PJ = ?

Viagra, Formaldehyde and Prune Juice.:D

kittyboy

December 2nd, 2018, 21:59

Viagra, Formaldehyde and Prune Juice.:D

Lol. Thanks. May i suggest reordering the list? Pj, v, and f as a narrative.
PJ and vodka to keep the geriatric sex pat hydrated, regular, and chemically mood altered.
V to stiffen up and get an errection.
F for the dead sex pat after a night of hard night of PJ and V.

As a complete aside, i recall reading an article that embalming fluids accumulate in a man's penis, engourging it and making dead men's dicks look bigger!

It was a story about medical students and cadavers.
I dont think i have ever peaked at a dead man's dick.
Though i have been in bed with the equivalent of living corpses with limp dicks.

Nirish guy

December 2nd, 2018, 22:38

I dont think i have ever peaked at a dead man's dick. .

This board covers some very weird and dark subjects sometimes and you never quite know what you're going to read always when you log on - which is of course what keeps things fresh - unlike a dead mans dick ! :-)

Jellybean

December 2nd, 2018, 23:12

This board covers some very weird and dark subjects sometimes and you never quite know what you're going to read always when you log on . . .

I echo the sentiments expressed by NIrish-guy in the above quote.

Previously, I used to read only the posts in topics which were of interest to me. Now I am obliged to read every post, whether the topic interests me or not. And, as NIrish-guy says, I never know what I am going to read, as the topic heading is not always a guide to the subject matter. :)

frequent

December 3rd, 2018, 02:58

I echo the sentiments expressed by NIrish-guy in the above quote.

Previously, I used to read only the posts in topics which were of interest to me. Now I am obliged to read every post, whether the topic interests me or not. And, as NIrish-guy says, I never know what I am going to read, as the topic heading is not always a guide to the subject matter. :)Some of us are enormously grateful that you gave us some respite when you became a Moderator, but is it a life sentence?

Jellybean

December 3rd, 2018, 05:06

Some of us are enormously grateful that you gave us some respite when you became a Moderator, but is it a life sentence?

In truth, frequent, I have not really considered the matter. For the present, I am happy to continue until such time as Moses decides that a change in the composition of the admin’ team is in the best interests of the forum.

Nirish guy

December 3rd, 2018, 05:56

Ever the diplomat :-)

scottish-guy

December 3rd, 2018, 06:30

It’s on a par with a ministerial resignation letter

frequent

December 3rd, 2018, 06:35

It’s on a par with a ministerial resignation letterBritish or Thai?

christianpfc

December 10th, 2018, 13:36

ChristianPFC, have you ever rinsed, dried, and used a condom twice?

Be honest now!

Only that condom in my youth for wanking. See one of my previous posts. For fucking, I always use a new condom.

The condom I blew up is still inflated, two weeks later. Interestingly, it turned white where it changes from dilated to undilated.

I once stumbled upon a safe-sex education in a gay disco in Khon Kaen, where condoms were blewn up to demonstrate the effect of massage oil. The condom rubbed with massage oil ripped shortly after.