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Josan
August 19th, 2018, 05:53
Mark,
Any chance you give up an overview about Morocco?

MARK
August 19th, 2018, 16:10
I had not been for 15 years so some big changes in the city’s not as much poverty on show nice shopping malls if you like that sort of thing. The country side not really changed at all. People still really friendly. There are several budget airlines going there from the U.K. I used to pay over £300. 20 years ago now it’s as little as £50 return I usually pay £100 return to choose my seat and take a large case but if your a light traveller is very cheep. Hotels still very clean and cheep so all in all I personally enjoy it still lots of guys available but using apps now.

scottish-guy
August 19th, 2018, 16:32
Thanks to the havoc USA and it's lapdog poodles in the UK have engendered over the past decades, I'd simply not visit any predominantly Moslem country under the current circumstances - and certainly not one where I'd have to creep about in (or be led to) shady areas to partake in horizontal recreation, for fear of being arrested.

I'll defer of course to Mark's experience - I'm only going by what I have heard and read.

The morbidly obese former owner of this forum was a regular visitor to Morocco (Agadir being his preferred playground) before he discovered Eastern Europe and then (of course) Thailand. It's a place I always wanted to visit but never got to, and with things being the way they are, I guess I never will.

:drink:

MARK
August 19th, 2018, 17:39
Please don’t believe everything you read I’m sat here in the U.K. and if I had never been to Thailand but believed everything I read about it I would be terrified to go.
At the moment I think I would be safer in Morocco than London to be honest.

paborn
August 19th, 2018, 20:09
Please don’t believe everything you read I’m sat here in the U.K. and if I had never been to Thailand but believed everything I read about it I would be terrified to go.
At the moment I think I would be safer in Morocco than London to be honest.

Mark, Perhaps in the other forum you could do a more lengthy analysis. Hotels, where to meet someone, etc. Because, feeling safer than London is hard to believe.

scottish-guy
August 19th, 2018, 21:41
TBH what I've heard and read is that there is zero chance of taking a boy back to your hotel, that meetings have to be arranged quite surreptitiously, that if you do manage to pick up and if he does know somewhere to go, he will not walk with you - but well ahead of you, and you have to watch you are not being followed by police.

Further I've heard that either before or after the deed is done, the boys won't fraternise or socialise with you in any way - it's just too dangerous for them.

Have heard/read all this multiple times - is it all exaggerated then? I'd genuinely like to know.

:drink:

arsenal
August 19th, 2018, 21:49
Offering a bucket load of opinions on somewhere you've never been. That's not like you.

Oliver2
August 19th, 2018, 22:25
I've been to Morroco on six occasions- it's an easy flight from London. In Tangiers, twenty years ago, my attempts to tread in William Burroughs' footsteps and to find Joe Orton's hang-outs were a failure, though I did pick-up ( or perhaps I was picked-up by) a young guy with whom I searched some spectacularly dingy hotels for one which would rent us a room. Unsuccessfully....probably a blessing in disguise. I was younger and braver then.
In Marrakesh , I was followed one evening in the famous Square by a cute guy who repeatedly tried to make contact. My experiences in Tangiers however ensured that he was unsuccessful. A few years ago, there was a guest house there advertising itself as gay. I have my doubts. Plenty of guys available but, as Spartacus used to say, AYOR.
Morocco is a fascinating place with plenty to do and see....but exploring gay life (such as it is) isn't one of them.To gain a flavour of Tangiers as it once was (mid sixties) read Joe Orton's diaries.

scottish-guy
August 19th, 2018, 22:38
I suspect most of us have already read Joe Orton's diary - a much easier read than William Burroughs drug-fueled output

Blacktouch
August 19th, 2018, 22:48
I have been to Morroco on four occasions - Agadir, Marrakech and twice to Essaouira. The latter being my favourite so far.

I have read and researched about having fun there, and because of the hotel situation, I always book an apartment. I use Airbnb.

I have had some great fun in all the places I've been. It is very AYOR. But if you're careful, you will be ok. The guys are sexy and fit. So easy to find fun out there.

Hope to visit other places in Morroco in the future.

Please note Essaouira (2 hours from Marrakech) is a nice small coastal town and not as scary as Marrakech, is a lovely place to visit. I enjoyed it that much, I went a second time. Each visit I had fun with some good looking guys!

MARK
August 20th, 2018, 00:35
Guys I can only go off my own experience I lived there full time for 15 years before moving to Thailand. No your never going to be able to take a guy or woman to your hotel room so self catering apartments are better if you going on holidays not a hotel package I can not say there is No risk to a hook up there but no more than meeting a total stranger anywhere. I never ment to turn this in to a advertisement for a holiday in Morocco. Just mentioned I like it. As for feeling safe I was referring to terrorist attacks the last one I recall was 2011 in Marrakesh where we have had several in the U.K. last few years.

paborn
August 20th, 2018, 00:45
Honestly, most of us know about the old tales of Morroco and would love to relive it. But, truth be told, many of us are just scared about Islamic law. I, personally, have read widely for many years about Islamic culture, Iranians, in paticular, are handsome. In the end, however, I won't set foot there. It might be my loss but my fear is very real - just being honest.

arsenal
August 20th, 2018, 09:04
I've been there twice and on the second visit I did manage some action but was nervous the whole time so didn't really enjoy it. Even without sex Marrakech is a nice city to spend a few days in.

frequent
August 20th, 2018, 14:28
I suspect most of us have already read Joe Orton's diary - a much easier read than William Burroughs drug-fueled outputBeing lazy I relied on the film of the same - Prick Up Your Ears. I tend to rely on films rather than the written word (or at least that's what I tell the purveyors of The Big Issue)

goji
August 21st, 2018, 23:51
Excuse the link to this left wing rag:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/06/british-man-ray-cole-70-jailed-four-months-morocco-gay

poshglasgow
September 12th, 2018, 03:40
Being lazy I relied on the film of the same - Prick Up Your Ears. I tend to rely on films rather than the written word (or at least that's what I tell the purveyors of The Big Issue)

I understand that Joe Orton meant the title to be "Prick up your arse" but his fingers typed the letters of the last word in the wrong order. It remained Prick up your ears!

frequent
September 12th, 2018, 04:07
I understand that Joe Orton meant the title to be "Prick up your arse" but his fingers typed the letters of the last word in the wrong order. It remained Prick up your ears!You mean he named the film about his life and death after he was already dead?

scottish-guy
September 12th, 2018, 19:39
Oops!

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