black gay in Thailand

[lemy]

Hello, I'm an african man. Asian men make me crazy so I decide to travel for two weeks in Bangkok on december. I was just wondering how are Thai men towards blacks.For the record I'm exactly the opposite of the macho top endowed black. Im rather feminine bottom type. Thank you

[Manforallseasons]

Shouldn't be a problem.......just bring CASH!

[frequent]

Hello, I'm an african man. Asian men make me crazy so I decide to travel for two weeks in Bangkok on december. I was just wondering how are Thai men towards blacks.For the record I'm exactly the opposite of the macho top endowed black. Im rather feminine bottom type. Thank youOur favourite Log Cabin Republican black guy will be along momentarily (yes, we have one)

[Dimsumbear]

Many encounters we describe in this forum are essentially cash transactions. The good thing is that the only color matters is on the money note you plan to foolishly spend thinking more is going on

[frequent]

The good thing is that the only color matters is on the money note you plan to foolishly spend thinking more is going onEasy enough for a Caucasian to say

[snotface]

You shouldn't have any problems on the commercial sex scene where, as has been said, money rules. But prejudice against blacks does exist in Thailand. I had a friend who was an ebony-black American; he lived in Pattaya for several years but eventually returned to the US completely disillusioned with Thais and Thailand. He described disrespectful treatment in restaurants and shops, staring in the streets, that kind of thing. Some might have the personality to brush off such incidents but they ground my friend down in the end.

[frequent]

You shouldn't have any problems on the commercial sex scene where, as has been said, money rules. But prejudice against blacks does exist in Thailand. I had a friend who was an ebony-black American; he lived in Pattaya for several years but eventually returned to the US completely disillusioned with Thais and Thailand. He described disrespectful treatment in restaurants and shops, staring in the streets, that kind of thing. Some might have the personality to brush off such incidents but they ground my friend down in the end.Agreed. The notion of "money opens all legs" might apply in Pattaya but as we know it caters to the lowest common denominator. In Bangkok it's well-known there are gogo bars where the boys choose to work because the customers are mostly Asian and others where they choose to work because the customers mostly aren't Asian. I've had boys who respond to a request for a threesome with "Threesome, yes; with another Asian boy, no". The racism of some Thais is boundless; some will refuse to go with Indians for example or with Saudis. I certainly have encountered some who would refuse a black man if asked. That's why I suggested we wait for a pronouncement from bucknaway who is, AFAIK, our only black member

[Oliver2]

There have been a few black mbs available on Planet Romeo in the last couple of years....one of whom a friend speaks very highly . He certainly looked cute. A francophone with decent English. I've seen black guys in both Babylon and Sansuk.
As far as the Thai guys themselves are concerned, frequent is undoubtedly correct. From a political perspective, people who are deemed to be on the lowest rung socially and economically can sometimes compensate by expressing superiority over a group considered even lower....though this attitude is trumped by the relative wealth of any tourist.
I can't recall the context (a James Baldwin novel perhaps?) but there's comment made by a poor white guy in a US trailer park along the lines of "If we haven't got n...... to look down on, who have we got?"

[Manforallseasons]

I can't recall the context (a James Baldwin novel perhaps?) but there's comment made by a poor white guy in a US trailer park along the lines of "If we haven't got n...... to look down on, who have we got?"

A similar quote from the movie Mississipi Burning " if you ain't better than a [Deleted text] who you better than".

Offensive word removed. Breach of rule 4.7.

Jellybean
Moderator

[arsenal]

We should not be using this language. Even quoting movies. No black person needs to come here and read those words.

[Manforallseasons]

We should not be using this language. Even quoting movies. No black person needs to come here and read those words.

That is true...if they are from the U.S. they need not come here to hear it they need only to listen to the Trump!

[arsenal]

Even more reason not to have it here.

[frequent]

That is true...if they are from the U.S. they need not come here to hear it they need only to listen to the Trump!Do you wonder why you're one of my favourite posters!

[arsenal]

High praise indeed.

[Nirish guy]

All the moderators.

A bit much perhaps.......to be fair they're all doing a fairly decent job of late in keeping their heads down and only popping in and out as Mods ( and not private posters) when something needs done, which is exactly the way it should be of course.

[arsenal]

You're a martyr to your bitterness.

[Old git]

The Thais are nothing like as self conscious as westerners when it comes to political correctness, and have no hesitation when it comes to having an opinion about different racial groups. Thai women are also as obsessed about getting whiter as western women are obsessed with getting a tan.

That's the bad news. The good news is that they often see black Americans in movies and most bar workers are quite well disposed towards meeting them for real. Some will be shy about sitting with you, but plenty will oblige.

The one group most bar workers won't touch with a barge pole are the Indians and Pakistanis - they have a dire reputation for trying to get sex on the cheap, and being less than pleasant in the bedroom.

[paborn]

All true. But, I wonder if it is not true that this attitude is common in all of East Asia. I have encountered such attitudes to the nth degree in Tokyo. Plenty of bars when a Gaijan is not welcome.

Some years ago I was on a business trip to China. I was younger and proud of all my passport stamps. My Colleagues and I had come on some sort of group business visa with invitations from the ministry of Tourism so our paperwork was all done.

When clearing immigration I asked for a stamp. The young man happily stamped my passport while beaming a welcome. Immediately behind me was my black colleague who asked for one. He was stone-faced and categorically refused it.
Having said that you will face little of that in the commercial bars. At most, if a guy does not want to go with you an excuse of booked up or something will be made to be polite.

[christianpfc]

When clearing immigration I asked for a stamp. The young man happily stamped my passport while beaming a welcome.
What kind of stamp was that? All countries I traveled to, stamping in and out was not at the discretion of the immigration officer or on request of the tourist.

[arsenal]

Christian. Many years ago it was common.for immigration staff not to stamp your passport unless requested to do so. These days you need to get a visa and passport stamp to go anywhere. My passport is less than 2 1/2 years old and nearly half full with stamps.

[paborn]

Christian, Aresenal is quite right. This was in 1989, just before the Tiananmen protest. The company i worked for had a consulting contract regarding tourism promotions and we were met by officials and escorted through like diplomatic staff. I paused and asked the young man for some sort of stamp as a mememto - he kindly gave me one. Just ideograms. God knows what it says. The point is he was kind to me yet refused to acknowledge the black person behind me. For decades I nevefr got a stamp returning to the US.

[gerefan2]

You never get a stamp from your own country. Still dont.

You never got a stamp in Europe if you were a visitor from another European country.

Everywhere else I always got one.

[paborn]

Gerefan,
I don't know how this became a passport stamp discussion. But, for years the US did not stamp, post 9/11 they did. now they scan your passport and don't stamp it - they stamp the customs form. Again Europe stamped for years then traveling intra EU you did not even see immigration . Whether the EU is now stamping I don't know or Frankly care as the point of my story was that a black person behind me was refused.

[gerefan2]

yeah who cares...

[Nirish guy]

Back to the black problem!

Spoken just like a true Trump supporter ! :-)

Oh and on the stamp thing I recently got stopped going into Thailand because I'd a new passport with NO stamps in it ! I wasn't even thinking about the passport lady or immigration control when I noticed her speaking to me, I'd to stop and re concentrate to hear her asking "why no stamps" and had to ask her to repeat the question! She then did but added with a suspicious look in her yet...."new passport? why ?" to which I said "yes it is of course, as you can see by the recent issue date" ( which needless to say didn't go down well :-) So, I've had to make a point of ensuring everywhere DOES now stamp it everywhere I go just to fill a page or two to avoid the worrying and accusatorial looks of am I some "CDNMatt" playing "ohhh I the spilt my coffee on it and ruined my old passport" but for some underhand reason to avoid the suspicious looks from them !

Oh and getting back to the subect at hand the only and main comment I've heard Thai boys saying about Black people when they said they wouldn't go with them was " noooo, to big, hurt" - but I'm guessing that's more to do with hearsay than practice plus lets be honest several of the guys I'm thinking of could have managed a large marrow with ease and hardly noticed ! :-)

[scottish-guy]

.... several of the guys I'm thinking of could have managed a large marrow with ease and hardly noticed ! :-)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdGKLA8IlEE

[paborn]

yeah who cares...

Having a bad day are we?

[gerefan2]

No, but you clearly want to get back on topic, so I left it!

[poshglasgow]

You shouldn't have any problems on the commercial sex scene where, as has been said, money rules. But prejudice against blacks does exist in Thailand. I had a friend who was an ebony-black American; he lived in Pattaya for several years but eventually returned to the US completely disillusioned with Thais and Thailand. He described disrespectful treatment in restaurants and shops, staring in the streets, that kind of thing. Some might have the personality to brush off such incidents but they ground my friend down in the end.

I recall very clearly in 1993 seeing a restaurant on second road with a notice in the window that stated: "No Blacks!" It made me feel very uncomfortable. I thought... London circa 1950s??

I felt uncomfortable because it was a medical team of black nurses and doctors in Wolverhampton that saved my brother - a white senior police officer in the Met - when he was at death's door! They were black and knew that my brother was a police officer within a police force that was condemned by Sir William Macpherson, some years later in 1997, as being 'institutionally racist'. I think Bill (Cluny, now retired and living in Scotland, head of the Macpherson clan in those days) could have added 'homophobic' to his list of shortcomings in 1997!

As the Thais claim to do: seek to judge a person by the warmth of their heart! Now, whether or not the Thais do so on every occasion, it is, nevertheless, how I seek to judge people that I encounter.

[sglad]

As the Thais claim to do: seek to judge a person by the warmth of their heart! Now, whether or not the Thais do so on every occasion, it is, nevertheless, how I seek to judge people that I encounter.

Oh puh-leez. You're BS-ing the wrong crowd here. We all know you judge them by the warmth of their hearts AND the hardness of their dicks.

[Nirish guy]

Oh come on, at least be honest with yourself! We all know you judge them by the warmth of their hearts AND the hardness of their dicks.

And them us by our girth .....of our wallets !

[sglad]

And them us by our girth .....of our wallets !

Sigh...such cynicism. Don't you believe in true love?

[Nirish guy]

Sigh...such cynicism. Don't you believe in true love?

I believe for every drop of rain that falls, A flower grows, I believe that somewhere in the darkest night. A candle glows, I believe for everyone that goes astray, Someone will come to show the way, I believe, I believe.......oh no wait, that's a song !!!!

There now, does that answer your question about me and cynicism perhaps ! :-)

[arsenal]

Old Git wrote.
"The one group most bar workers won't touch with a barge pole are the Indians and Pakistanis - they have a dire reputation for trying to get sex on the cheap,"

That's absolutely correct. It was their habit of not tipping that lead to Scandic Massage introducing the 'pay up front' policy.

[frequent]

I believe for every drop of rain that falls, A flower grows, I believe that somewhere in the darkest night. A candle glows, I believe for everyone that goes astray, Someone will come to show the way, I believe, I believe.......oh no wait, that's a song !!!!

There now, does that answer your question about me and cynicism perhaps ! :-)Another couple of posters who don't understand the difference between cynicism (ie. exploiting another's weakness) and scepticism (ie. the suspension of naive belief)

[kjun12]

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Seems that Mr. Jellybean is becoming the "little dictator".

[sglad]

Seems that Mr. Jellybean is becoming the "little dictator".

It always happens. When you give these little people power it gets to their heads like strong drink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lyryl-hHtk

[sglad]

Hello, I'm an african man. Asian men make me crazy so I decide to travel for two weeks in Bangkok on december. I was just wondering how are Thai men towards blacks.For the record I'm exactly the opposite of the macho top endowed black. Im rather feminine bottom type. Thank you

You didn't give a description of yourself other than being a feminine, African bottom. Generally speaking, the more western-educated and better-travelled the Thai person, the fewer issues he or she will have with ethnic diversity and skin colour. That said, Asian tops generally prefer bottoms who are tightly or compactly built, athletic or muscular, with a tanned or fair complexion. Being slightly fem is OK, a pretty face is a bonus. But if you're built like RuPaul you might encounter some problems as most tops aren't keen on bottoms who are bigger and taller than they are.

As for the commercial scene, I can't really say but some boys may have developed a certain impression of a particular ehtnic group or nationality based on their past dealings with them. Those in Pattaya or who spend a lot of time with older white men, may have had the prejudices of this latter group rubbed off on them (for eg hating jews, Arabs, Germans, etc).

You say you're African. From the continent or of African origin? Some Thais won't make a distinction but those who do, might be more wary of a Nigerian than, say, an African-American because the former has garnered a less than savoury reputation for themselves in SE Asia because of their cons and scams.

[cdnmatt]

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Seems that Mr. Jellybean is becoming the "little dictator".


Do we really need to bring this debate into SGT too? It's being dragged all over news channels in the US especially right now.

He's not being a dictator, he's being human. Don't be racist. Not really that difficult.

It's 2018, both the KK and Nazis lost. No need to drag up that shit.

[francois]

Hello, I'm an african man. Asian men make me crazy so I decide to travel for two weeks in Bangkok on december. I was just wondering how are Thai men towards blacks.For the record I'm exactly the opposite of the macho top endowed black. Im rather feminine bottom type. Thank you

lemy, I suggest you post your inquiry on this forum:

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/

The responses will be polite and to the point, unlike the drivel you are reading on sawatdeenetwork forum.

[frequent]

It always happens. When you give these little people power it gets to their heads like strong drink.Thailand is a prime example - 21 coups and attempted coups in 100 years

[Nirish guy]

Another couple of posters who don't understand the difference between cynicism (ie. exploiting another's weakness) and scepticism (ie. the suspension of naive belief)

Bullshit....I know EXACTLY what I meant when it comes to my view of "love" - you shouldn't be so quick to try and put words in other peoples mouths. PS nobody loves a smart arse who always THINKS they know better than everyone else.....

Oxford english dictionary :cynicism, NOUN, : An inclination to believe that people are motivated purely by self-interest; scepticism

Oxford english dictionary : NOUN : A sceptical attitude; doubt as to the truth of something.

[frequent]

Bullshit....I know EXACTLY what I meant when it comes to my view of "love" - you shouldn't be so quick to try and put words in other peoples mouths. PS nobody loves a smart arse who always THINKS they know better than everyone else.....

Oxford english dictionary :cynicism, NOUN, : An inclination to believe that people are motivated purely by self-interest; scepticism

Oxford english dictionary : NOUN : A sceptical attitude; doubt as to the truth of something.

Don’t hold back NIrish, tell us what you really think

[Nirish guy]

Always :-)

[CambodiaVisitor]

Check out the hotel and sauna called Babylon in Bangkok. I met a number of black men there, some travelers and some expats. This place has somebody for everyone. I saw asians hooking up with all types there, including black men. You can book a pretty cheap room in the hotel and get free access to the sauna. It's an amazing place. Also the apps are great for meeting guys. I am a chubby latino, and I got lots and lots of action from the apps like grindr and growlr. Some boys were free and some offered services for money.

[bucknaway]

Hello, I'm an african man. Asian men make me crazy so I decide to travel for two weeks in Bangkok on december. I was just wondering how are Thai men towards blacks.For the record I'm exactly the opposite of the macho top endowed black. Im rather feminine bottom type. Thank you
Send me a direct message and I'll tell you what I have learned during my past trips, as well as the good and bad experiences I have had that I attribute to race.

[Nirish guy]

What's wrong, is that a black thing or something that the rest of us aren't allowed to hear too ? Who knows, you could just end up educating us all in that regard if you decide to share your first hand insights.

[latintopxxx]

personally I've had great sexual experiences with dark skinned Thai MBs, they are so grateful that someone is interested in them. In Brazil I had a pitch black number from Bahia, skin like velvet, most amazing sensual experience.

[bucknaway]

Nothing like that. An open forum post invites arguments. I don't want to argue or fight. I just want to share, answer questions and be of help if I can.

[paborn]

So share. I would be very interested and if anyone argues just ignore them.

[bucknaway]

It's all in my past trip reports that can be found here on this forum. I'll have a conversation with the OP but a forum post... every part of me says don't do it.

[Nirish guy]

That’s a pity as it’s a bit pointless white guys commenting on “how Thais think of and treat Black Guys” as needless to say our experience might be somewhat limited, not to mention very different to your own actual reality.

Mind you I’m aware that your opinion is just that too of course i.e just your opinion and you could be all wrong the overall picture too. I’m minded of me going to Taiwan and thinking they all HATED white guys but many others have told me thst their view re that is very different, still hearing your thoughts are just as valid and worth hearing anyway I’m guessing.

But “up to you” fully respect if you choose not to ( or just can’t be arsed :-)

[Blacktouch]

Agreed. The notion of "money opens all legs" might apply in Pattaya but as we know it caters to the lowest common denominator. In Bangkok it's well-known there are gogo bars where the boys choose to work because the customers are mostly Asian and others where they choose to work because the customers mostly aren't Asian. I've had boys who respond to a request for a threesome with "Threesome, yes; with another Asian boy, no". The racism of some Thais is boundless; some will refuse to go with Indians for example or with Saudis. I certainly have encountered some who would refuse a black man if asked. That's why I suggested we wait for a pronouncement from bucknaway who is, AFAIK, our only black member

Bucknaway is not the only black member!

[Nirish guy]

If only you’d have given us some subtle clue perhaps when you were choosing your profile name eh ..... :-)

[Jellybean]

Send me a direct message and I'll tell you what I have learned during my past trips, as well as the good and bad experiences I have had that I attribute to race.

bucknaway, the OP, lemy, is a new member and cannot send or receive PMs.

[bucknaway]

If he likes, he can send me an email

jm6562332@hotmail.com
line address paul-usa-302

[mr giggles]

Sigh...such cynicism. Don't you believe in true love?


No,

the difference between true love and herpes,
is that only one lasts for ever.
:yes:

[frequent]

No,

the difference between true love and herpes,
is that only one lasts for ever.
:yes:A cynic - someone who, knowing he has herpes, has sex with someone else without warning them of the risks - because he can

[francois]

Nothing like that. An open forum post invites arguments. I don't want to argue or fight. I just want to share, answer questions and be of help if I can.

Absolutely correct, bucknaway.

[Josan]

Black guy in Thailand.
Just come! Smile all the time. Don't get angry. Don't shake hands - just nod your head with your hands at chin level. Laugh much with others. Be friendly to all. I rather think the Thai guys will note your "feminine bottom type" and will find it interesting.

[a447]

In all my years visiting Thailand and talking to the guys, I have never heard a disparaging remark about black guys.

I think you'll have a great time!

[francois]

- just nod your head with your hands at chin level.

That is known as a "wai" and should not be done unless you are an expert in Thai culture.

[frequent]

That is known as a "wai" and should not be done unless you are an expert in Thai culture.arsenal, for example, or, as we now find out, a447 whose knowledge of Thai culture I had thought was confined to an area 100 metres either side of the line that can be drawn on a map between Golden Cock Bar and Bangkok Boys Bar

[Old git]

I have no doubt the OP will find a warm welcome, but two thoughts come to mind:

1) American tourists are notoriously unadventurous when it comes to food, and tend to take refuge in the nearest burger joint. However, the Thais are not reliable when it comes to maintaining food hygiene with western food, and burgers are the most likely item to make you sick. Moreover, the big name burger chains are as bad if not worse than the smaller restaurants in that regard. You are on much safer territory if you stick to Thai food. Make it a voyage of gastronomic discovery - there will probably be dishes you adore and others you'd rather not re-visit, but the ethnic cuisine is well worth exploring.

2) Bear in mind that whilst many gay tourists are lured by the availability of slim young guys with boyish looks, there are also plenty who have a penchant for dark skin. You might well encounter another visitor who is happy to service your derriere for free..

[Manforallseasons]

I knew a youngish American black guy who spent alot of time in Pattaya, he was into wacked out looking ladyboys, he said he was constantly harrased at the airport on arrival in L.O.S. and many ladyboys refused to go with him because he was black.

[arsenal]

I'm not an expert in Thai culture freaky. I am an expert in the offing of straight Thai money boys and unlike you, I do understand the LM laws. You could be sitting in a Thai jail right now for what you've posted here. This suggests that for all your 'aren't I clever' superficial intelligence you are in fact, a complete fool.

[a447]

....as we now find out, a447 whose knowledge of Thai culture...

I know as much about Thai culture as anyone else who does not speak their language; i.e. very little.

[paborn]

Josan, knowing that the OP was very new did not use "wai" as it is a word that might not be known. So he described it and, of course, someone took it as an opportunity to display their knowledge of Thai culture which is - as thin as a Thai boy's skin - a447 had it right; we all know very little.

Old Git, claims that " the Thais are not reliable when it comes to maintaining food hygiene with western food" I'm not arguing but I would love to see your source for that remark. Hygiene is not specific to cooking styles. The bacteria that cause illness thrive in the same conditions regardless of the culture.

[Blacktouch]

As a black guy who have been to Thailand many times, and traveled all over, I have never come across any form of discrimination or problems at all.

Every person i've chosen to go with for fun have never turned me down.

As long as one respect the Thai culture, it's people, it's laws, the boys and behave oneself, you will be ok.

[dab69]

If only you’d have given us some subtle clue perhaps when you were choosing your profile name eh ..... :-)

"eh"...

I see you are Canadian

[francois]

Josan, knowing that the OP was very new did not use "wai" as it is a word that might not be known. So he described it and, of course, someone took it as an opportunity to display their knowledge of Thai culture which is - as thin as a Thai boy's skin - a447 had it right; we all know very little.



It doesn't take much knowledge of Thai culture to know that there is an art to the use of a "wai"; for a foreigner it is best not to "wai".

[paborn]

It doesn't take much knowledge of Thai culture to know that there is an art to the use of a "wai"; for a foreigner it is best not to "wai".

I completely agree. But, the OP gave no indication of any knowledge at all. I was really feeling sorry that Josan made a simple remark, trying to be helpful, and OFF we go...

[bucknaway]

My being black has been more of a benefit to me in Thailand. I find it allows me to claim poverty and be believed with little suspicion. If I am out with caucasian friends, I will pretend that I have no money of my own and the money I do spend is thanks to the charity of my friend. I will even make up an imaginary benefactor financing my holiday to allow me favorable negotiations.

So I use my race and the perceptions they may have of my race to work in my favor and I am often successful. As an example, I am often asked why I change my room so often? I may tell them I change because my friend is paying for room and he changes my room because he gets lower rate. I will also add that I don't mind because I don't have money to pay for room. I may also mention that I have to budget the little money he gives me to last all week. Hey internet board guys, don't judge me! haha! These tactics have turned a 1500 baht offer down to a 500 baht deal. Once all is done , if I feel the encounter was worth more I can give it. If the encounter was worth 500 or less... I can give the 500 and move on.

Back to the issue. As I have said. Being black has been great for me in the way of sex. In thailand the black man is an exotic thing. Like in the USA, if a Asian guy were in our local bar, he would turn heads as there are not many asian guys here. He would also get his fair share of attention and offers for possible sex. In thailand I enjoy attention from Russian, Indian, Asian, African and others who want to be able to say they fucked an American Black guy. It helps if you are in ok shape but the better you look the more attention you may get.

I've attached a picture to show what I looked like years ago when I first started visiting Thailand.

Back in the days of Gay.com. I use to talk to a Thai guy that let me know up front that he was not interested in black guys but he was very helpful with his advice and warnings of Thailand. He even was kind enough to show me around. When we first met I felt he may have been attracted to me, but I was not sure since he let me know that he had no desire to have sex with a black guy.

During my trip, he sent me a message over gay.com. Remember, this was a time before Cell Phones were all the rage. I was in a cyber cafe near the Pinnacle hotel. He let me know he wanted to have sex with me. I reminded him that he didn't like black guy. Not that there is anything wrong with that. The heart wants what the heart wants... He explained that after meeting me he changed his mind. So he came to my room. I approached sex with him differently then I have anytime in the past with anyone. In the past I approached sex trying to make my partner happy. This time I didn't care if he enjoyed it or not. I just did what I wanted. I did whatever I wanted to do. If there was a part of his body I wanted to lick or kiss, I did it. If he was chocking, I didn't care so much. If there was something I saw in a porn movie that I wanted to try, I did it with him being there. I felt it was a one time never to be repeated thing because I knew in his heart of heart he was not into me because of my skin.

When I returned home and logged onto gay.com, we chatted and soon he was asking me if I had any black friends in Bangkok? As it turns out he was now into black guys and wanted to find more black guys to have sex with. I told him about the rumors I heard of African guys that hung out in certain areas.

Back when Dream Boys was in its old location, I was there on a slow night looking for a hot guy to off. Next to me was a young guy from Isreal. He was handsome but he looked like any guy I could meet here at home so I had no interest in him. He moved closer to me, offered to buy me a drink and was soon touching my leg. I brushed his hands away only to find him back at it but now trying to run his hands up my shorts. The guys on stage were pointing at us and the host was not amused. I got up to leave and he followed me out... Sigh.... I have have more incidents like that than I can count. It was not bad, but it was unwanted attention but I would not undo it even if I had the power to turn back time.

I can go on and on about the good. Now for the bad. The only thing that comes to mind is when I went to Pattaya. I saw in a good mood. It was the first night on my return trip to Pattaya. I wanted to hit the bars running! I figured I would bar hop in Sunee Plaza before going to the shows in BoyzTown. So why not begin at the beginning? So I figured I would start the night at Power Boys. I was walking so fast to get there you would think I was running! haha! When I stepped off the road onto their entryway, the ladyboy sitting by the door, leapt to her feet, blocked the door and told me I had to pay 300 or 400 baht to get in. I forget the exact amount but if anyone wants to, they can look up my old post and find the exact baht amount.

I refused to pay an entry fee. No one else was paying an entry fee so why should I? I decided to take my business elsewhere. With the staff of Power Boys watching, I went next door to Nice Boys. They had a look of confusion on their face probably wondering why their neighbor bar would not let me in and if they should refuse me entry? When I entered the bar, an older asian man informed me that it was a gay bar. (I am often asked if I am military or Police). I informed them I am gay. Once I got comfortable and drinks and tips flowed, they acted sad that I was leaving to other bars. One outside, a few of the guy came running out to grope me, sniff my neck and thank me. The staff of Power Boys witnessed the attention I was getting and asked me to enter their bar. I declined.

The next year when I returned, I wanted to see if Power Boys would let me in. I was blocked from entry again and told I had to pay an entry fee. No problem, back to Nice Boys. When I was leaving, a guy from Power Boys stopped me and wanted to know where I was from. I told him USA. He told me they were sorry and if I have a problem at the door in the future, to tell them I am from USA and they will let me in. So the next year I tried that and they still didn't let me in LOL! Now it is a running joke for me. I go to Power Boys just to see if we can keep the streak running.

I must mention that I did go to Power Boys with a white guy I met in Boyz Town. I knew they would let me in with him and I was kinda sad that I would be going in there knowing it would kinda do damage to the rejection streak I was building up with them. Well their drinks were expensive compared to Nice Boys. So I hope they continue to reject me, but I didn't even try to enter their bar when I was there in 2017.

Let me also add this. I met a guy from Africa in Bangkok. He was outgoing, youthful, friendly and able to draw a crowd with his personality alone. He kinda forced his friendship on me and I later came to appreciate him and what he did to become my friend. I invited him to join me on my trip to Pattaya. When we hung out, he got a lot of attention. He had a love/hate relationship with attention. He liked it when it got him what he wanted but hated it when it got him nothing but attention. I had to laugh at him. He complained but I reminded him that he dyed his hair blond at the top with a stylish fade up the side, that with his strong masculine looks, slight body, strong legs, bulging crotch and stylish clothes told the world, NOTICE ME! I reminded him that his looks got him free entry to DJ Station. When we went into gogo bars, the guys would go crazy over him. When we walked down walking street, people would stop us to have their picture taken with him. He was a great guy. He had no job, he made his living spending time with Farang visitors to Thailand. It had to be a difficult living for him. He depended on the white men to make a living, but he was very prejudiced and spoke hatefully of every white guy he saw. He even spoke with hate of the guys that paid his rent, put food on his table and provided him with spending money. No matter how many times I tried to show him how much of a hypocrite he was, he could not see it.

I tell you that to say that life if what you make it. If you have a bad moment, move on from that moment. A moment in time won't last forever. You can't hold onto the good moments in life, so why try to hold onto the bad moments in life. Keep it moving, build memories, enjoy the good and the bad. Let life deliver the situations that others only read about. Like the time a Thai friend visited me in my hotel room with a friend. His friend wanted to meet and talk to a Black guy... We talked for a while. When my friend went to the bathroom, his friend and I dropped our pants and 69'ed to orgasm and were back to our chairs just in time for my friends exit from the bathroom.

Enjoy your trip to Thailand.

Below is a Pic of Power Boys and what I looked like back when I was in my sexual and social prime!

[Nirish guy]

"eh"...

I see you are Canadian

My comment about "if only he could have given us some subtle way of knowing that, perhaps with his profile name etc" was actually more intended as a lighthearted joke to "Blacktouch's" comment about Bucknaway not being the only black member on the board.

[bucknaway]

My comment about "if only he could have given us some subtle way of knowing that, perhaps with his profile name etc" was actually more intended as a lighthearted joke to "Blacktouch's" comment about Bucknaway not being the only black member on the board.

When I read your reply, I could tell your tongue was firmly planted in your cheek.

[sglad]

When I returned home and logged onto gay.com, we chatted and soon he was asking me if I had any black friends in Bangkok? As it turns out he was now into black guys and wanted to find more black guys to have sex with. I told him about the rumors I heard of African guys that hung out in certain areas.


So it's true what they say: once you go black, you'll never go back.

[sglad]

When I read your reply, I could tell your tongue was firmly planted in your cheek.

bucknaway, Nirish's tongue is always planted in one cheek or another and usually everywhere in between.

Thanks for sharing your story; I enjoyed reading it. :)

[Smiles]

"eh"... I see you are Canadian
Noted that this affectation is getting around. Excellent, eh?

PS ... the word "eh" is normally coupled with a question mark, except when a Canadian is attempting to explain the many uses of the word (or is it a phrase?)"eh". Eh?

Not many people know this, but an "eh?" on the end of a sentence is often coupled with the subtle movement of the head to the right ~ never the left ~ and a withering look straight into the other's eyes and kept that stance for 5 seconds. We do this so as not to actually say out loud "... you're a fucking idiot ... right?", which might not end well.

There are nuances!

[bucknaway]

Never seen a Thai toilet? Never seen the disgusting toilets in Toyboys or Eros? Clean they are not. Try the toilets on a Motorway then eat in their restaurants. Guaranteed problems.

I have been waiting 3 years for them to repair the 100 baht toilet roll holder in Toyboys and the leaking basin. What the women customers think when they sit on the flooded toilet I don't know.

And Thais are clean????

They heard you and made changes.
With the new toilet comes a few changes.

Drinks are now 2,000 baht
Off fee is now 1,100 baht
but a square of toilet paper is still only 5 baht.

[a447]

Members.

Some posts in this thread have been moved to the Everything Else forum under the title 'Food hygiene in Thailand."

A447
Moderator

[scottish-guy]

The only possible quibble being the cut-off point as can be seen in the preceding 3 posts above (at least) - which have absolutely nothing to do with the OP - but Francois will be along shortly to tell you that

:drink:

[Blueskytoday]

Come on posters stick to the subject , stop going in a totally different direction/subjects....

[latintopxxx]

i think bucky boy has just given all blacks a real bad name...

[Nirish guy]

You think one person represents their entire race ? :-)

[francois]

i think bucky boy has just given all blacks a real bad name...

Meaning just what?

[Blacktouch]

Hiya latintopxxx, in terms of what?

I'm interested to know?

[latintopxxx]

well he's made it sound like they are all professional cheap charlies existing off the white mans charity...kinda pitiful actually. I've been around long enough to know and experience that poverty doesnt have a colour...

[Nirish guy]

well he's made it sound like they are all professional cheap charlies

"They??" - ha have you ever heard the term when you're in a hole maybe stop digging ....... :)

[scottish-guy]

It's hard to keep count of the races and nationalities that The Rabbi doesn't like or disapproves of - you only have to remember how he acquired that nickname for a start.

Further, you'd think a serial buggerer of guys young enough to be his children (if not his grandchildren) - who are prostituting themselves and having to put up with his S&M and Domination fetishes purely because he has more money than they have - would realise the glass house he's living in, wouldn't you?

[Blacktouch]

well he's made it sound like they are all professional cheap charlies existing off the white mans charity...kinda pitiful actually. I've been around long enough to know and experience that poverty doesnt have a colour...

Yes I fully agree with you. And I thought the same thing as you. But I can't be bothered to argue the topic.

But for the recorde, as a black man, I do not act or behave in that way, wherever I am or go on holiday, or back home in the UK.

When I'm in Thailand I spend my money to enjoy myself, and I spend my money on the boys, as well as my friends travelling with me. I buy the boys drinks, tip the bar staff well. That's just me. In fact, the more drunk I get, the more I spend and treat people.

Fortunately, not all black people behave like cheap Charlie's, including myself. But I guess each to their own.

[arsenal]

The irony of Latin describing ANYONE as a 'cheap charlie" will not be lost on ANYONE who has read his posts.

[bucknaway]

The representative of all black people has arrived and is about to address Latin's concerns...



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I have nothing to say.

[Nirish guy]

But what about all the other black people out there that you’re so obviously representing to us !? I mean if YOU don’t speak up for those people I mean who’s going to !! Are you sure you’ve thought this through !? :-)

Look how about a compromise, how about you speak for half the black population and Blacktouch can speak on behalf of the other half, that seems fair to me - what do you think? :-)

[bucknaway]

Now they say I can't speak for all black people....

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[Nirish guy]

So what, so it’s all or nothing in your mind then is it ? Why that’s just RIDICULOUS, especially when there’s at least one other black man on the board to let us know what all black people think about all topics. I think you need to accept that there’s more than just “you” can do that job, there’s at LEAST two of you here now, hell maybe more even - who knows !

Oh but while I’ve got you could you give me a quick run down on what ALL black people think about Trump, religion, gay people, white people ....on and of course what Thais think of black people too of course as I’m guess you’ll have that nailed on behalf of all blacks people who have ever visited Thailand - and even those who have not no less !!

Thanks in anticipation ...... :-)

[bucknaway]

I'm out of gifs. Sorry

[christianpfc]

I met a guy from Africa in Bangkok. ... He had no job, he made his living spending time with Farang visitors to Thailand.
My underline. The nicest description of "prostitute" I ever read.

[loke]

One opening post from the African and never heard from again , amazing.

[frequent]

One opening post from the African and never heard from again , amazing.Don't spoil Moses' illusions about new members

[Dalewood]

One opening post from the African and never heard from again , amazing.

I noticed that too.....

[cdnmatt]

One opening post from the African and never heard from again , amazing.

Happens all the time, because whenever a new guy shows up, everyone pounces on them as if this is prison and fresh meat just arrived.

[Dalewood]

I was in Thailand frequently thirty years ago and several trips quite recently (long story). The color of my skin seems to make far less difference now than it did then. Even then, I can not recall being refused entry to any club or restaurant. I assume that the successes of Mssrs. Woods and Obama have made a difference.