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Nirish guy
August 7th, 2018, 21:26
So, following on from another thread where I'd mentioned spending time with the Amish community in Lancaster County, P.A. I'd been asked to elaborate as to how that came to be and I'm happy to do so.....as per the title, sorry there's no sex involvedwhatsoever and it's not actually in any way "gay" - other than it was a gay man experiencing it.


So, several years ago I was involved in a local committee here in my home town which was set up to mark and celebrate direct links between my home and a town in PA. So about 20 of us left N. Ireland to travel and stay with our American hosts for around 2 weeks and as their homes were located bang in the middle of Lancaster County (Amish country) some of their neighbours just happened to be Amish and so it was easy for them to arrange for us all to meet to say Hi and in fact to our surprise the Amish had it seemed expressed an interest in meeting us also.

The Amish whilst always friendly generally to their neighbours are also well known for being very private and stand offish, even with their close American neighbours and they prefer of course to remain "separate" from both them and society in general. So, we (and our hosts) were more than surprised when all 20 of us ( but not our American hosts strangely) were invited to dinner at a local Amish home during our trip. We were happy to attend and brought along a few carefully chosen gifts which we were told to ensure were VERY plain and simple and something that had no design or logo or colour on it ( we brought Irish Linen tea towels from memory.


We were told to arrive for dinner at 6pm and we were dropped off at that time by our hosts, who again were quite clearly told that they weren’t invited and that they should wait for us at their own homes just.

So, after walking up to the door alone and knocking the lady of the house came out and politely (but firmly) told us "ahhh, but you're an hour too early" - as it turned out the Amish work/ worked to a different time zone to their non Amish neighbours ( who surprisingly had forgotten that important point). So, we assumed "ok, so we’re early, bad manners yes but no real problem" ......hmmm, no, not quite it seemed as we r’re then told us again clearly and firmly that as her Husband and sons were still out working in the fields and they wouldn't be back until the appointed time we were welcome to go and walk around the farm but there was NO way she could admit us to the house without her husband’s direct approval – this we did.

The men of the house arrived home at the appointed hour and in we all went. The first thing to point out was that being 20 of us we had “assumed” that we’d be split into groups to attend different neighbouring houses to eat, but no apparently not ! So, on we went into the kitchen were we noted her own family’s seats ( for maybe about 14 people) PLUS our 20 seats – all laid out around a massive table. It then became obvious to us that catering for such numbers was nothing strange to the lady and her daughters that were serving us and catering for very large numbers ( after church on Sundays) was it seems an almost every day occurrence for them.

So, after pleasantries we all sat down to eat and noticed there was lovely fresh bread sitting pre-cut along all our places, all set out with lovely homemade butter. So being the Ulster men that we were we all immediately lifted the warm fresh bread, buttered it and got “stuck in” and it was delightful. We did however notice the Amish looking at us slightly strangely but thought nothing more of it. So, the meal carried on and we were then served warm corn on the cob with butter, all cut from their own fields and it was to DIE for. We were then served a beautiful plate full of meatballs each, all in a rich gravy, with fresh potatoes and vegetables, again all grown from their own farm which again tasted just out of this world.

We did note that it was only then that the Amish lifted their bread and started using it to mop up the gravy and we realised why they’d been looking at us so strangely before as we now of course realised that the bread was to mop up the gravy and that we were now left sitting with our plates covered in gravy. Assuming no issue we then moved on to dessert which I think was some form of hot cherry pie and as we handed back our dinner plates to wait for dessert to come NO – and BANG ! the cherry pie and cream was served right into the middle of our by then cold gravy ! Ha and we THEN realised why the Amish had used the bread – to clean their plates – and were told with no embarrassment whatsoever that “ well you have one plate, why would you possibly need two” and that THAT was the Amish way – ha they had a point and we all quietly laughed at their smartness and our own stupidity and made a mental note not to make that mistake again.

Another interesting note of the evening was that whenever you spoke to the wife and asked her “anything”, she then looked to her husband who quietly nodded to give her “permission” to answer, that took a bit of getting used to for the women in our group, but I think that only lasted for a few minutes to set precedent and after that she was given general permission to “speak” freely and things proceeded at a slightly more relaxed pace. As I had been placed at the far end of the table beside the younger people ( 20 / 25 year olds) the conversation and questions from them about us and our Country was ever flowing but as I’d said in my main post their (apparent?) lack of knowledge about the outside world in general and geography etc, was quite surprising BUT they were aware of this and explained that they stopped schooling very early to concentrate on working on the farm and as I said before what they lacked in worldly knowledge they more than made up for with hard work and simply business acumen ( and there was a small fortune’s worth of crops waiting to be sold out in their barns).

As the trip went on we ended up being introduced to and dining with several different Amish groups and making firm friends with several Amish families and we found them all to be warm, friendly and welcoming and in fact several of them made us gifts of beautiful personalised handmade leather items to take back home with us. The older families tended to stick rigidly to their old style teachings and habits as they are known for ( at least in front of us but it did all appear 100% genuine to me) whereas the younger families did perhaps tend to look for some shortcuts to help make their lives just that little bit easier ( such as gas powered cookers and fridges etc and rechargeable battery lights - but those powered by an electric charger, but one that was placed OUTSIDE the house) so still remaining true to their Amish way of life and whilst of course that is and was something very alien to me I came away with nothing but respect for them and their simple hard working way of life (but I’ll not be signing up to join anyway sooner perhaps though !).

There are other stories of my meeting younger Amish guys and drinking with them and even going to the local bars with them etc, but the above for me nicely encompassed that part of my trip and so I’m happy to share my experience and I hope you enjoyed reading about it – apologies that there’s no sex involved for those expecting it, but that was one trip were even “I” behaved myself and was living a somewhat “normal” everyday non slutty life (for a change) :-)

paborn
August 7th, 2018, 22:14
A delightful post. You write extremely well. I was born in Pennsylvania - not in Amish country, but they have always fascinated me. They keep, mostly, to themselves but harm no one. Amish is, in the US, a well-known synonym for "well made" Did you know they are often called the Pennsylvania Dutch? They aren't Dutch at all, but Rhineland Germans and the English colonists did not understand their response of "Deutsch" when asked what they were.

Nirish guy
August 7th, 2018, 23:38
I did know that actually......and did you know that "we" are and were called the "English" - which I can assure you being from Northern "Ireland" annoyed us perhaps as much as them being called Dutch when they weren't ! :)

Oh and as for writing well, ha give it time, don't worry I'll soon change your mind re that. The only difference here was that as I knew I'd be beaten by the clock when trying to post I composed my post elsewhere and pasted it in rather than banging it all out in a split second with mistakes aplently which I assure you is more my norm on here ( as I and many others will happily testify too :-)

paborn
August 7th, 2018, 23:47
Yes, the Amish have that in common with American raised orthodox jews. We are the "English" all studies that are not about Jewish law are "English" - Oddly, both Penn "Dutch" language and Yiddish are German dialects. Not drawing a connection but America's "melting pot" can be fascinating. I live in South Florida and you might think you're in Cuba. I was once on a flight back from Bangkok and my UA flight from San Francisco to Newark was canceled and I was booked on a connection in Salt Lake City with a 5-hour layover - NO ALCOHOL in Mormon country - damn long 5 hours.

Part of me is relaying this because those on this board who draw conclusions about my country should visit a few different areas - they'd be amazed. Also, like you and your friends, they'd be very welcome

latintopxxx
August 8th, 2018, 02:23
that must have been a really long time ago as alcohol is freely available in SL:C airport as well as in SLC itself. Its not exactly sold at convenienve stores but there are lots of bars, restaurants and even breweries selling alcohol to the public.

paborn
August 8th, 2018, 03:42
that must have been a really long time ago as alcohol is freely available in SL:C airport as well as in SLC itself. Its not exactly sold at convenienve stores but there are lots of bars, restaurants and even breweries selling alcohol to the public.

It might have changed as it has been a good 15 years. But I had a client in SLC and at that time any alcohol was part of a "private drinking club" If you stayed at a hotel your registration made you a temporary member. If you wanted to dine in a restaurant and have wine you had to have their club card. My client would provide same for our lunches and staying at the Marriott where I was platinum took care of that. Things may have loosened up as the Mormon Church ( LDS ) is making moves to be more main stream. But, it was a real hassle in the past. Good to hear it has changed.

paborn
August 8th, 2018, 03:44
Latin you intrigued me - I just found this on the State touism site:

The ‘normalization' of Utah's liquor laws started about a decade or so ago when the oft- and rightly-ridiculed "private club" law--requiring patrons to purchase a membership--was overturned. And most recently, the Utah legislature, in all of its infinite wisdom, further simplified how establishments are differentiated, requiring them to state whether they are a restaurant or a bar. (Prior to this recent revelation, Utah's bars and restaurants would fall under a number of different categories and be licensed as such: private club, tavern, restaurant, etc.)

frequent
August 8th, 2018, 07:50
And for users of Uber, try Amish Uber https://thepointsguy.com/news/amish-uber-with-horse-and-buggy/

paulo15
August 9th, 2018, 11:33
I used to know an Amish alcoholic, sad case... he tried many times to stop but he kept falling off the wagon...

francois
August 9th, 2018, 12:36
Did not take long to sidetrack this post from Lancaster,Pennsylvania to Salt Lake City!

Irish guy, will there be a sequel regarding the drinking with the Amish?

frequent
August 10th, 2018, 07:14
Did not take long to sidetrack this post from Lancaster,Pennsylvania to Salt Lake City!

Irish guy, will there be a sequel regarding the drinking with the Amish?The Moderators have advised me that my post with links to Mormon and Amish gay porn has been removed. I well remember that 15 years ago Bob Muldoon, who then owned the Board, introduced a sponsored link to a porn site; I believe he received a kickback from members who signed up. Smiles christened it The Cornucopia of Filth. Ah, those were the days. Writing for the Forum now resembles nothing so much as contributing to a samizdat

Nirish guy
August 10th, 2018, 07:20
(N)Irish guy, will there be a sequel regarding the drinking with the Amish?

Well probably not a whole lot to tell there apart from the obvious, meet up with a few of them ( of various ages from 18 up) and ended up in barns and BBqs drinking beer with them, likewise ended up in my local there also spending a few enjoyable beers with a few Amish guys, which at the time I thought was CRAZY, but I now understand that like all people not all of them adhere STRICTLY to their ordered ways and "do" fall off the wagon ( very good Paulo :-) but some also decide "fuck it" and just have a beer or two anyway - or have actively decide they're just not going to bother thinking about Amish stuff anymore, but as they still "look" Amish it's quite off putting sitting here necking beer after beer corrupting the poor guy even further and wondering are you help to damn his (and your own) eternal soul or something ( even more than mines already damned that is ! - but I came to the conclusion that that was his problem and not mine so we continued on drinking. Turns out ( Paulo) the guy DID have a drinking problem and the rest of the Amish turned a quiet blind eye in the hope that he'd stop and get help..... MAN did HE end up in the wrong company for that when he met me ! :)

So, that's is, as I said before nothing raucous or perverted ( worst luck) just all good clean fun, corrupting one after another and seeing how many gave in when a beer was offered - and much to my surprise the answer was "quite a lot" - have to be honest I DID wonder just how far my corrupting qualities COULD take me if I'd of managed to separate one or two from the group, but alas I never got the chance to find out - so far......

frequent
August 10th, 2018, 07:24
So, that's is, as I said before nothing raucous or perverted ( worst luck) just all good clean fun, corrupting one after another and seeing how many gave in when a beer was offered - and much to my surprise the answer was "quite a lot" - have to be honest I DID wonder just how far my corrupting qualities COULD take me if I'd of managed to separate one or two from the group, but alas I never got the chance to find out - so far......Reminiscent of drinking with Malay boys. Alcohol is banned for Muslims, but apparently that doesn't include beer