G Boyz etc

[Mancs]

G Boyz: New bar on the right of the Wall St soi, off Surawong. Popped in last night about 1am. About 12 men; beer 350 baht. The mamasan said it is the old X Size, moved from Soi Twilight. Talked to a man from Sukothai, gave him 200 baht but didn't off him. Went on to Screwboys nearby on Patpong Soi 2; beer 300 baht. Many fit twinks, as usual. Yet to try Tokyo Boys, just to the right of Screwboys. I visited the new Freshboys upstairs from there when it was doing its soft opening but yet to try it on this trip. The slow demise of Soi Twilight is less of a disaster than some of us feared, as bars establish themselves on the other side of Surawong.

[DrewSpz]

This may be a ridiculous question, but is Tokyo Boys employing boys/ guys From japan?

[paborn]

Not ridiculous at all. But, a couple of days ago a posting here said no, just your regular mix of south east Asians.

[AsDaRa]

i think real boys from Japan would be too expensive considering the living standard there. I doubt they would be satisfied with 1500 baht.

[Nirish guy]

i think real boys from Japan would be too expensive considering the living standard there. I doubt they would be satisfied with 1500 baht.

Unfortunately it's getting ( or got long ago) that not too many Soi Twilight boys would be satisfied with 1500 baht either I fear :(

[goji]

This may be a ridiculous question, but is Tokyo Boys employing boys/ guys From japan?

Kawaii Boys did not employ boys from Japan
Euro Boys did not employ boys from Europe (although some of the Asians were awesome)
Wild West Boys did not employ Americans

Funny Boys were not particularly Funny, but in the best years, they had some very hot boys.

Screw Boys might be an exception.

[Nirish guy]

Wild West Boys did not employ Americans.

WELL, I certainly fucked a guy from there who was wearing cowboy boots so are you trying to tell me that Asian guy was lying to me and that he wasn't a real cowboy after all ?! - Well I never, some people have NO shame !

And such lovely boots they were too ! ;)

[goji]

And such lovely boots they were too ! ;)
If that's all he was wearing & you managed to find a slim cute 20 year old, I can see the fascination with the boots.
Almost up there with my unfulfilled fantasy of ****ing a hotel bell boy.

[Mancs]

I suspect Screwboys' lads might be better at being tops than the bottoms the name implies. But to me they are the most handsome crowd in all the go go bars in Bangkok and Pattaya.

[a447]

I suspect Screwboys' lads might be better at being tops than the bottoms the name implies. But to me they are the most handsome crowd in all the go go bars in Bangkok and Pattaya.

And they have plenty of guys on offer, although not quite rivalling Dreamboys. Last night they couldn't all fit on the stage at the end of the night and quite a few were left standing on the side.

My guy here tells me that most of the guys are Vietnamese, which is a negative for me. They have a reputation as non-performers, and that has been my experience in the past. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

I was sitting right down the front and did not see any guys leaving with customers. The quoted tip of 3,000 baht short-time may have had something to do with that, but I'm sure the guys would willingly accept less.

Maybe the quoted tip was so high because the mamasan gets a cut. Who knows?

[scottish-guy]

WELL, I certainly fucked a guy from there who was wearing cowboy boots so are you trying to tell me that Asian guy was lying to me and that he wasn't a real cowboy after all ?! - Well I never, some people have NO shame !

I hate to be the one to tell you there was only one cow involved in that particular encounter, and it wasn't the boy or his boots

:D

[paborn]

The quoted tip of 3,000 baht short-time may have had something to do with that, but I'm sure the guys would willingly accept less.

Maybe the quoted tip was so high because the mamasan gets a cut. Who knows?

I'm sure they would accept less. This whole discussion is interesting; last time I stayed in Bangkok Screwboy was rather downmarket. Also, where is the 3,000 quote?

[a447]

Given the fact that it was near closing time and the bar was still jam-packed with guys eagerly looking for an off, that mamasan is doing the boys a huge disservice. He is effectively denying them the chance to make a living. I wonder if the boys know what is going on?

When the choice is between 1500 baht and nothing, it's a no-brainer.

Whatever happened to "up to you?"

[paborn]

Are you saying that you ask the mamasan about the tip? I have never done that, actually, I've had guys tell me not to tell the mamasan what I pay.

[Mancs]

I've paid many men from Screwboys 2000 for short time and they happily accept it. Sometimes I have paid 3000 for long time there. I will investigate as, if that 3000 ST quote is normal, I agree the mamasan is damaging business.

[scottish-guy]

...last time I stayed in Bangkok Screwboy was rather downmarket...

It was never on the same "level" as the Soi Twilight go-go bars, but the saving graces were that a) it was cheaper for both booze and offs and b) they seemed to appreciate your custom more. The owner would regularly give me a drink on the house, a bottle of whisky once, and a gift of a decorative wooden plaque which hangs on my wall to this day.

If you want examples of "downmarket" look no further than any of the bars in the area around the Golden Cock. I went to the toilet in Super A once - there were 3 urinals of which one was covered by a black bin bag, the other was lying on the floor and the third had no active water supply so you can imagine the smell!

Someone should start a thread on the worst kept bars in BKK/BT/Sunee - I'm sure the tales would make our hair curl

[Mancs]

And Screwboys is better as, when we pay the bill, we don't get 5 staff asking for a tip.

[AsDaRa]

And Screwboys is better as, when we pay the bill, we don't get 5 staff asking for a tip.

That is what is for me a dis-inclination to go into a bar. This kind of behavior reduces customer flow. Of course I still go into bars, but it does make you think twice each time. To be confronted with people asking for tips who force their service upon you, who come sitting next to you while you didn't request that, is for me highly irritating.

I assume you ignore and don't give anything? I ignore the pleas.I only tip the boys.

[paborn]

I tip the boy(s) who sit with me, ones I know and want to keep happy and a captain who actually helps me. There is one at Toy Boys who is very good. Mostly, they are annoying. Classic in Bangkok and Cupidol in Pattaya have/had the worst I've ever seen.

[Mancs]

I do what Paborn does on the tips front. I agree Classic is especially bad for many staff nagging for tips. (Quote from one Mamasan there once: "You give me 500 baht I take care of boys"). Lol. I did not give him 500 baht.
I asked the waiter tonight at Screwboys how much short time is for the boy and he gave me the right answer - 2000. So that is what I gave the young man I off'ed 30 minutes ago. Good value.

[paborn]

Mancs, what are they calling short time now?

[scottish-guy]

Mancs, what are they calling short time now?

A knee trembler?

[paborn]

Mancs don't get caught up ion Scotish Guy's joke - I meant how much time will they commit to for short time?

[Mancs]

I've asked that question a few times and usually get an answer like: "One, two, three hours. Up to you." My impression is that the boys aren't clock watching as long as they are having a fairly pleasant time. So one can, for example, take them to a bar or disco and then go back to the hotel for sex. I think sometimes it's good to ask them how long ST is to get them to commit to the time.

[frequent]

I've asked that question a few times and usually get an answer like: "One, two, three hours. Up to you." "Up to you" is the Thai response to every question about what they might like to do. It can be roughly translated as "You'll (soon) find out"

[Tintin]

paborn asked:


Mancs, what are they calling short time now?

Mancs replied:


My impression is that the boys aren't clock watching as long as they are having a fairly pleasant time.

That's a reasonable answer, Mancs, but it doesn't explain why in your case you got only 30 minutes (or even less), as you said you already tipped that young man you off'ed just 30 minutes ago:


I asked the waiter tonight at Screwboys how much short time is for the boy and he gave me the right answer - 2000. So that is what I gave the young man I off'ed 30 minutes ago.

:)

[a447]

I asked the waiter tonight at Screwboys how much short time is for the boy and he gave me the right answer - 2000. So that is what I gave the young man I off'ed 30 minutes ago. Good value.

And I think that answers the question about how long short-time is. It finishes when you do.

I once took a Vietnamese guy from Freshboys. He was a top but only lasted around 15 seconds! He then got up and started to get dressed, expecting full payment for those fleeting seconds. Needless to say, he left with a much reduced tip.

[Mancs]

Apologies. The young man had departed 30 minutes before I wrote that so my post was misleading. That off lasted about an hour and forty minutes. My survey of Screwboys' men continues to suggest 2000 is fine for short time. I was just quoted 3000 by a 'massage' man on Hornet so creeping inflation is a risk. As a comparison, I was quoted 1200 for short time in Winner Bar, Pattaya in April. I gave the excellent young man there 1500, as 1200 seemed a bit cheap.

[paborn]

Exactly, I have always bargained a low end and gave more as a real "tip" if you accept that it is an incentive for continued good service!

[AsDaRa]

1 hour and 40 minutes is long for short time. I am done within the hour normally. Good to know I can take more time for it.

[paborn]

If I hit it off with him I like to go to a beer bar or dinner to prolong the company. Years ago everyone went to the old Thai Room in Patpong. Now you know how old I am. I plan to recreate this by trying out the vaunted pizza at the Madrid in Patpong if someone from Screw Boy intrigues me.

[Mancs]

I have a confession of extravagance to make. I once off'd two young men from Screwboys, took them to Foodland on the same Soi to eat, and paid them off afterwards without going to the hotel for sex. I know it's sacrilegious on here. And I have done much more extravagant things in Thailand. I once paid six men 2000 each to come back to my hotel on my final night of a trip. That was fun.

[Jellybean]

I have a confession of extravagance to make. I once off'd two young men from Screwboys, took them to Foodland on the same Soi to eat, and paid them off afterwards without going to the hotel for sex. I know it's sacrilegious on here. And I have done much more extravagant things in Thailand. I once paid six men 2000 each to come back to my hotel on my final night of a trip. That was fun.

Sounds like there is something wrong with your programming, Mancs. Perhaps it’s time you were returned to the factory, as it would appear your annual service is long overdue.

;)

[sglad]

I once took a Vietnamese guy from Freshboys. He was a top but only lasted around 15 seconds!...Needless to say, he left with a much reduced tip.

I hope you really reduced his tip. Fifteen seconds is barely enough time for the opening credits on your geronto-porn vids to roll.

[paborn]

Ah Mancs, I once paid a cute guy to go the movies with me over at Siam Center. We had lunch and a good time. It seemed enough, after all, compasnionship is one of the main things I miss.

[Mancs]

I honestly like to see young men happy too. We were young and had no money once. In 1976 I moved to London with £100 only. So now we have a bit of cash we can spread it around.

[a447]

I honestly like to see young men happy too. We were young and had no money once. In 1976 I moved to London with £100 only. So now we have a bit of cash we can spread it around.

In Japan money goes around in circles and everyone tends to benefit. It's a wonderful system. So spreading it around amongst the guys is the way to go.

These days Bangkok seems rather expensive compared to just a few years ago. I'm off to the atm every second day, it seems. Bangkok is like a big hole that I just keep throwing money into!

But where else in Asia can you find sex so easy to come by?

It's worth every penny.

BTW, I found G Boyz last night. I didn't venture down the soi to take a look but I might do so tomorrow night.

Any further info on the bar? What type of guys are on offer?

[scottish-guy]

...In 1976 I moved to London with £100 only..

That's nothing - I know plenty of people who moved to Thailand with only £200K.

They are now living in Council accommodation in Manchester

:D

[frequent]

They are now living in Council accommodation in ManchesterNot down by the canal?

[latintopxxx]

geez scotty...thats real sad..try to lighten up...and whats it like living in england as a scots??

[Mancs]

In Japan money goes around in circles and everyone tends to benefit. It's a wonderful system. So spreading it around amongst the guys is the way to go.

These days Bangkok seems rather expensive compared to just a few years ago. I'm off to the atm every second day, it seems. Bangkok is like a big hole that I just keep throwing money into!

But where else in Asia can you find sex so easy to come by?

It's worth every penny.

BTW, I found G Boyz last night. I didn't venture down the soi to take a look but I might do so tomorrow night.

Any further info on the bar? What type of guys are on offer?

I didn't find the G Boyz men very attractive. But I like twinks. They were mainly mid 20's plus. It's worth a look. Beer 350 baht. It was still open past 1am.

[a447]

Thanks for that. No twinks is not a problem; in fact, it's perfect for me.