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poshglasgow
June 28th, 2018, 14:54
I sat outside the Sunee Plaza bar and counted the farang at 8.00 p.m. last Sunday evening: one, two, three, eh, three, two, one. Were Sunee to be compared to a really unwell human being, I’d say its condition is critical! It appears to be moving towards that stage where we would summon friends and family to the bedside. I hope sincerely that this is not the case and that a miraculous renaissance occurs – but don’t hold your breath.

Walking through the narrow sois that once shook with energy amid the bright neon, thumping music and crowds of farang, one is accompanied by a thousand ghosts mourning the increasing loss of an integral part of the Pattaya gay scene.

Café Royal – the new Café Royal is awash with building materials and ongoing construction in preparation for the opening. Members will know better that I what the future Café Royal will offer. There is no doubt though, that the rooms desperately needed upgrading. I never really felt it recovered from the demise of Robbie and Ian (“Allo darling, what colour are they? Fish! Fish!”) There was a noticeable increase in traffic (cars/motorcycles etc) meandering through Boystown and the restriction on outside tables and chairs may have a huge impact.

Back to Sunee: I called into Winner. I wondered what the hell was going on. There was a riot. The boys were scrambling about the floor picking up a thousand – or so it seemed – ping-pong balls! A small group of Asian foreigners who were sitting near the bar were forking out rolls of bank notes to buy buckets of ping-pong balls to throw onto the stage. It was like a teacher entering a classroom of ten-year-olds and chucking a bucket of toffees into the air (you get the picture)? It was most entertaining and a tad life-threatening if you happen to be the boy at the end of the pile (note to myself: good title for a gay novel about a boy in love with an older partner suffering from haemorrhoids.)

“Take look, take look!” was the shout from outside Caligula’s bedroom, otherwise known as Eros, so I took a look and as I entered a couple of lads jumped onto the stage, while the tall, heavily-inked blond lad (of whom everyone is aware) lay half-asleep along one of the benches, reluctant to get to his feet due to extreme fatigue, I suspect, from excessive masturbation.

“Take look; new boy; take look!” I was outside Power Boys - and soon inside. A real mix of guys, many anxious to display their attributes, while others reclined lazily against the poles (and Hungarians), flicking through their mobile phones searching for straight porn. It was the same in Nice Boys. Nothing special to report about either bar. It just seems to me that many of the boys in the bars have lost their enthusiasm, while the odd one of two really work hard to capture the interest of the loyal farang.

And now, for those of you of a nervous disposition please turn away now or move on a few lines. I went back to Jomtien and walked into a busy M2M, just as their show was coming to an end. And then it happened.
“Hello dahling, you remember me?”
Dear God, I thought, surely it’s not….
“Cupidol, remember me, dahling?”
Oh fuck, it’s her, the Wicked Witch of the East: the pushy, bloody annoying Cupidol Mamasan!
“Yes, I remember you.”
“Which boy you like?” she uttered, swinging her arm through three hundred and sixty degrees.
Christ, some things never change. Word, however, I soon discovered, was out among the gay ex-pat community already (had been for some time). The discovery of a broomstick resting against the entrance to M2M proved to confirm their worst fear: she’d returned. I made my excuses and left - rapidly. However, the next evening, while I drank a beer in the pleasant bar opposite M2M she suddenly appeared in the soi about fifteen minutes before the beginning of the late show, wearing a tight black cocktail dress similar to that worn by Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast at Tiffany’s. She swooned around, clicking up and down in six-inch stilettos, smiling broadly as if someone had pushed a coat hanger into her mouth (maybe they had), while holding the ubiquitous “SHOWTIME NOW” board with which she approached every male that passed. Incidentally, there is no doubt that the show is worth watching and that it is popular but just be aware – she’s back! “What number you like, dahling, number sixty-nine, he do everything, but not smoke.”

That same evening a magnificent sparkling angel appeared from nowhere slap bang in the middle of the soi, causing mayhem among the street vendors, beer-affected farang and passing motorcycles. She’s appeared, not to announce the second “cumming” but to assist ‘Audrey’ in trying to get punters into the show. This was six-feet tall of glittering, shimmering tiara-wearing ladyboy opulence and confidence, sporting wings like a Boeing 747, capable, were she not careful, of swiping glasses from the tables of surrounding bars. It was like watching the Angel of the North in drag. I turned to the Irishman behind me and said, “Is that the Angel Gabriel?”
“Only on his day off, dear” came the superb reply. Irish repartee at its best.
The witch noticed my interest in the Angel Gabriel, which was, I can assure you, purely an artistic interest.
“You like?” she said, ducking quickly as the angel’s wings swished through 180 degrees to allow the heavenly figure to scan the soi for the arrival of the three wise men – but they were in Power Boys!
Could you imagine? Could you imagine trying to get this extra-terrestrial ladyboy on board a baht bus and later through the doors of the hotel.
“Sorry dahling, cannot. Impossible.”
“Well, take the bloody wings off and you might get through the door.”

I was lying on a deckchair on Dongtan Beach last Thursday with my earphones in, listening to some ‘meditation music’ (you know the kind - birds chirping, wind-chimes chiming and thunder storms thundering etc) when I distinctly heard someone calling out “Rice Queen, Rice Queen”!
I thought it a tad over the top; a little rude perhaps. I removed my earphones, sat up and saw a guy approaching with a box slung over his shoulder. He began to call out again: “Ice cream, ice cream!”
How the ears deceive!

Dinner at Yupins: a good steak and very friendly owner. Worth the money and definitely worthy of a repeat visit next time. Dinner the next evening at Café John. An interesting restaurant. Food was very good (I had dinner twice there) but if you leave dinner until after, say 9.30, the atmosphere drops. I wasn’t sure who was in charge but the staff were fine.

As another poster on the SGT site has already confirmed, Sizzler offers very good value for money in the various shopping malls. It’s always a good stand-by.

Dinner at Nam Sing on second road was okay in terms of food but the service and welcome were, frankly, appalling. It seems that there is a short-arsed, baggy-jeaned, stony-faced, miserable-looking, thirty-something guy who is the new, inspiring front of house. He served me with a fag in his mouth. Fag? Sorry – cigarette. Can you imagine saying that in Greenwich Village???
“Hey, I’ve just seen a guy with a fag in his mouth in that restaurant over there.”
“Nothing new around here, love.”

Finally a word about the shows. They seem to follow the same format and I was not as keen on them this time as I was six months ago – but then that was Christmas. The current format? Drag queen appears and begins the inevitable lip-sync and then four handsome boy dancers appear and dance around her. Most farang eyes are on the dancers. She’s then joined by another drag queen and so it goes on and on and on... Long gone are the days of candles, rampant dogs, pole dancers and naughty nuns. I’m not keen on the whole drag queen thing and the thought of a night at Alcazar would bring me out in spots (eh, speaking of which…)! I always recall the sign outside the former Throb: BOYS not KATOEYS! I wonder if that is why it was packed to the ceiling each night.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I shall stop typing and attend to the removal of the door frame, as the Angel Gabriel is coming for dinner and sweetmeats!

frequent
June 28th, 2018, 15:06
It was like a teacher entering a classroom of ten-year-olds and chucking a bucket of toffees into the airI thought it was boiled sweets?

arsenal
June 28th, 2018, 16:35
Brilliant post PG. Capturing the absolute essence of Pattaya.

Anyone still confused as to why an ignore from frequent is as welcome as Ganymede sent by Zeus under strict orders to please me?

paborn
June 28th, 2018, 19:41
Absolutely wonderful post, so well written and entertaining. Thank you.

DrewSpz
June 28th, 2018, 21:17
Agreed. Very nice. I’m heading to Pattaya for a month soon, so I’ll try and do my part to keep Sunee alive.
So these Chinese customers paid money for a bucket of ping pong balls, and then spilled the balls so the boys scramble around and pick them up? Is this just so they can watch the boys wriggle around? I don’t get it????

poshglasgow
June 28th, 2018, 21:52
Agreed. Very nice. I’m heading to Pattaya for a month soon, so I’ll try and do my part to keep Sunee alive.
So these Chinese customers paid money for a bucket of ping pong balls, and then spilled the balls so the boys scramble around and pick them up? Is this just so they can watch the boys wriggle around? I don’t get it????

From what I can gather, it has something to do with the boy who collects the greatest number of balls being rewarded.

poshglasgow
June 28th, 2018, 22:00
Brilliant post PG. Capturing the absolute essence of Pattaya.

Anyone still confused as to why an ignore from frequent is as welcome as Ganymede sent by Zeus under strict orders to please me?

Many thanks, Arsenal. Members must forgive me - I get carried away because I find that in writing I re-live each experience.
PG

francois
June 28th, 2018, 22:00
DrewSpz, the boys scramble for the ping pong balls to retrieve them and earn money for each ball they gather up. I believe it is 10 Baht/ball.
Where have you been hiding, mon chéri?

riverdee
June 29th, 2018, 02:49
I so love sunee am over October again hope Alain and guys at sky bar still there

Manforallseasons
June 29th, 2018, 03:33
I so love sunee am over October again hope Alain and guys at sky bar still there

They will be happy to see you I can't remember the last time I saw a customer there.

francois
June 29th, 2018, 04:09
Alain and the guys are still at Sky Pub but maybe not the same guys as in the past.

Manforallseasons
June 29th, 2018, 06:59
The way things are going in Sunee you might want to pose this question agian in September.

sglad
June 29th, 2018, 09:09
Were Sunee to be compared to a really unwell human being, I’d say its condition is critical! It appears to be moving towards that stage where we would summon friends and family to the bedside.

I guess one could say that after years of a fruitful and profitable association, the Sunee bars have finally taken on the characteristics of their typical customer.

Nirish guy
June 29th, 2018, 14:47
I guess one could say that after years of a fruitful and profitable association, the Sunee bars have finally taken on the characteristics of their typical customer.

Yes totally, as they too are old, decrepit, worn out and just hanging around giving their best at a last hurrah as they wait for waiting for shutter to come down for the final time until they cease to exist become no more like they never even existed in the first place .....

A a sadly true analogy .....!

catawampuscat
June 29th, 2018, 14:58
Alain is a friendly Corsican bar owner of Sky Boy Bar and unfortunately his large well renovated bar beer is located on a darkened side soi
in Sunee Plaza. He offers tasty French dinners and a large bar with many stools as well as many tables, including
a snooker table. He looking for more boys and offering 9,000 baht monthly. The stocky host boy with graying hair will not
appeal to most but he’s friendly and funny. Gao, also not eye candy but a gifted ‘smoker’. Good coffee served
with macaroons. Sky Bar is a beacon of light in the night. Worth a look.

scottish-guy
June 29th, 2018, 15:17
9000B a month for a bar boy in Sunee seems exceptionally good.

The last time I asked one (in BT) he alleged he was paid 3000B a month and fined disproportionately if he was sick and couldn't work.

Bearing in mind I don't routinely ask bar boys what they earn, that was a few years ago - but 9000B sure beats inflation in that time

Nirish guy
June 29th, 2018, 15:30
that was a few years ago -

You really make it just WAY too easy for him don't you..... :)

scottish-guy
June 29th, 2018, 15:52
Yes I was aware of that as I typed - just making the point it's not a topic of regular conversation

:D

paborn
June 29th, 2018, 20:11
. Sky Bar is a beacon of light in the night. Worth a look.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, this is the kind of insight I yearn for on the forum. Each of us giving helpful hints that help a fellow member enjoy their vacation more. Now, I have a reason to visit Sunee. Can you give a clearer explanation of the location?

gerefan2
June 29th, 2018, 20:42
Its next door to Doubleshot, who incidentally pay their Thai boys 9000 per month. They pay their Cambodian boys quite a bit less!

francois
June 29th, 2018, 20:43
. Sky Bar is a beacon of light in the night. Worth a look.

Thanks, this is the kind of insight I yearn for on the forum. Each of us giving helpful hints that help a fellow member enjoy their vacation more. Now, I have a reason to visit Sunee. Can you give a clearer explanation of the location?[/QUOTE]

On Soi VC Hotel/Soi 17 there are two entrances to Sunee Plaza. One is next to Nice Boys. Just walk down that soi and Sky Pub is on the left side, not far from Double Shot Bar.

Manforallseasons
June 29th, 2018, 21:12
This bar could double as a Christian Science reading room.

paborn
June 29th, 2018, 22:24
OK, I've never seen it. But, could you be a bit more explicit? It seems you either don't like it or find it too tame, quieter than you would like? I know you live there so I'm interested in your observations.

Manforallseasons
June 29th, 2018, 22:31
It is very quite. Sunee beer bars what is left of them are all quite as mentioned before this side of Sunee is the most quite.

catawampuscat
June 29th, 2018, 23:52
Double Shot was closed tonight and will remain closed for a total of 3 days. The whole Double Shot group went
a trip together. The bar is always closed on Sunday, so they’re making a 3 day weekend out of it..

Manforallseasons
June 30th, 2018, 00:05
paborn.......the remaining Sunee beer bars can be seen in a 5 minute walk about though they dismal the 4 gogo bars in Sunee are certainly worth a visit!

Nirish guy
June 30th, 2018, 01:25
Perhaps as the world is getting all into the whole //me too thing and us gays are meant to be all about equality we should be boycotting Doubleshot then until he agrees to up the wages of his Cambodian staff to the same as his Thai staff - one job, equal pay etc etc.........I'll not hold my breath on that one though I think as equality is one thing but I'm guessing the average gay is only all for it if it doesn't reduces his chances of an easier, more available quick / cheap shag ......

I now await the "OHHH NO, that's not so" - but I bet we STILL drink there ( or the 100 other places that we know operate the same policies)

lonelywombat
June 30th, 2018, 11:11
I am unsure of what Doubleshot pays if at all, but I found last trip the Cambodian boys were "not salaried" but freelancers.
I had noticed after 2130 meals were delivered but not sure who were catered for.

scottish-guy
June 30th, 2018, 17:29
Many if not most beer bars have a variable mix of salaried/freelance.

If a farang “employs” a certain number of Thais (6?) you get one work permit - maybe that’s a reason in some cases

arsenal
June 30th, 2018, 17:57
Immigrants across the world are always paid less. That's why governments allow them in.

paborn
June 30th, 2018, 18:43
exactly!