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arsenal
June 4th, 2018, 11:20
My recent visit to Paradise upon Sea. While its true that the bars were not as busy with either boys or customers *** I still managed to have a wonderful time.

*** Nice Boys was often packed with customers and boys and frequently went into riotous assembly mode with raucous behaviour, drinking and lots and lots of full nudity.

Eros too had plenty to recommend it and my two offs from there were great fun. Enjoyed a couple of visits to Goodboys where the politeness of the staff is closer to a 5 star hotel that a (fabulously) seedy backstreet chuck wow bar. Boyztown continues to provide a great place to hang out. XBoys have refurbished the show a little although it's still the same boys partaking. Prisma has reverted into a beer bar and flunked up prices so an orange juice is now 145 baht, steep for a beer bar. One of the handsome doormen from Toy Boys moonlights at Scandic Masage and he too provided excellent service as did the ever lovely W****** who ofers a massage style unreplicated anywhere else so I always have at least one service from him every trip. Boyztown saved the day during the religious holiday when the bars elsewhere were closed most in BT were open. Jomtien still attracts plenty of customers and I hope it's only a question of time before the law changes and go go bar or two appear.

Other pleasures included an hour or so watching the go cart race at the big track near Siam Country Club, a wonderful lunch at Siam Country Club watching the Thai Army Paratroopers going through their paces and parachuting out of a circling plane, some truly awesome lightening storms moving across the bay in the early hours and a huge night time volleyball party on Jomtien Beach held by all the Boyztown bars.

One other (surprisingly pleasant) memory is a policeman following me on my motorbike and pulling up as I stopped outside 7/11 to tell me I wasn't wearing a helmet. I told him that helmet law stopped at 11.00pm and it was now 11.30. A genial conversation followed with no unpleasantness and he seemed genuinely concerned about my safety although I pointed out I had drunk no alcohol and was travelling at about 30 km per hour. He still gave me a ticket after I refused to pay the 'fine' in his booth and then I rode off, still not wearing a helmet.

a447
June 4th, 2018, 11:51
I'm heading off to Myanmar - Mandalay - later this month and will then go to Bangkok. But I am looking for somewhere to go afterwards. It is a toss-up between Chiang Mai and Pattaya. It's been a couple of years since I've visited both places.

I was leaning towards Chiang Mai, but having read your report, I may now go to Pattaya instead. I was under the impression that Sunee and Boyztown were not worth visiting, but there still seems to be plenty of life down there to keep a horny guy busy for a week or two.

werner
June 4th, 2018, 12:30
The more I read about Pattaya in this forum, the more appealing it becomes....
Perhaps I shall visit there during my next trip---but the daytime must be sooooooooooooooo boring......

DrewSpz
June 4th, 2018, 20:04
Nice post. We need more trip reports. I’m going in July but I don’t know that I’ll be any good. As many times as I’ve been I still just fumble around

newalaan2
June 4th, 2018, 23:06
Thanks for the updates arsenal, always welcome before a trip. Have to agree that the lads outside Good Boys are polite and nice guys. I pass their bar many times during a trip on way to Sky Bar, Double Shot etc.. they always chat, say hello using my name and Thai nickname even though I've never visited the bar or been introduced to any of them, but they're never 'pushy', just wish they were more my type! Maybe I'll make an effort this time just to stop by for a drink.

Nirish guy
June 5th, 2018, 02:06
..... they always...say hello using ......my Thai nickname .

So, are you going to tell us what it is then or WHAT !? Ah go ON !! :)

paborn
June 5th, 2018, 03:41
The more I read about Pattaya in this forum, the more appealing it becomes....
Perhaps I shall visit there during my next trip---but the daytime must be sooooooooooooooo boring......

Werner stop worrying, buy a book or rent a boy.........you'll do fine

Oliver2
June 5th, 2018, 07:56
We arrived yesterday evening and are very happy to be here. Vientiane had been a disppointment...but I'll save that for a different thread.
When I say Pattaya, I should say Jomtien because, lured by comments here and elsewhere suggesting that the Complex has become a New Boyztown, that's where we are.
What a joy to eat decent Thai grub at Dick's after the experiences in Laos. And to see all the massage guys....there must have been up to twenty outside Fah. While the Dick's Cafe soi was quiet, others were busy. Again, plenty of guys and , yes, wait for it, even a few falangs.
We'll move on to our usual haunts in Boyztown later this week but the first glimpses of Jomtien have been positive. Arsenal intimates that we shall be equally happy there.

Chuai-Duai
June 5th, 2018, 22:24
I've just walked past Prisma and at 10.00pm it is closed.

gerefan2
June 5th, 2018, 22:35
Prisma closed permanently according to post #7 here...

https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?19892-Any-recent-Pattaya-info-regarding-Clubs-Morlam-Issan-amp-Music-concerts

paborn
June 5th, 2018, 23:37
We arrived yesterday evening and are very happy to be here. Vientiane had been a disppointment...but I'll save that for a different thread.
When I say Pattaya, I should say Jomtien because, lured by comments here and elsewhere suggesting that the Complex has become a New Boyztown, that's where we are.
What a joy to eat decent Thai grub at Dick's after the experiences in Laos. And to see all the massage guys....there must have been up to twenty outside Fah. While the Dick's Cafe soi was quiet, others were busy. Again, plenty of guys and , yes, wait for it, even a few falangs.
We'll move on to our usual haunts in Boyztown later this week but the first glimpses of Jomtien have been positive. Arsenal intimates that we shall be equally happy there.
Ithink you convinced me to try Jomtien for a few days before Boys Town, if only to test it out.

Oliver2
June 6th, 2018, 09:35
If you decide to go,I recommend The Agate Hotel. We've been deeply impressed. It's only two years old , is well-designed and spic-and-span. It looks as if better prices are available through Reception than on the usual sites like Agoda. Apparently, Zing,next door, is also very gay friendly and cheaper.

"Testing-out" is exactly what we're doing. And JC has passed the test . However, it won't replace BT for us since its restaurant scene is limited and P. loves his trips to the big malls of Pattaya....as I do....where there are a variety of places to eat. The Thai restaurants in JC serve tasty food but are not very refined in terms of ambiance while the European restaurants are allegedly very good but not suitable for the two of us.

As things stand, we'll stay a few days each trip before moving on to BT. And that will be enough.

arsenal
June 6th, 2018, 20:56
Werner. There's loads of stuff to do during the day. Including the two sheep farms, Mini Siam, the floating market, Ice of Siam, Sanctuary of Truth, two water parks, the multiplex in Central Festival, the Big Bee Farm, the dolphin show, the aquarium the croc farm and many many other 'attractions'. Now most of them are rubbish but that's not the point. They're pretty cheap and by the time you've got there and had a mooch about then a coffee and gone back home it's taken up the main part of the day. Alternatively rent a motorbike and with a full tank of petrol and money on your phone head off and see what you see.

I can tell you that a longish ride through the Pattaya hills followed by a sensual massage and soaping down by a hot Thai masseur takes some beating.

latintopxxx
June 7th, 2018, 22:29
sheep...did u say sheep!!!!!

newalaan2
June 7th, 2018, 23:33
So, are you going to tell us what it is then or WHAT !? Ah go ON !! :)
Haha......I'm pretty sure that 'Ah go ON!!' has got to be repeated a number of times before this or any other 'father Ted' is likely to respond. I assume the nickname the boys use to my face is the same as the one used behind my back/out of earshot....

ARSENAL!!! What's this I'm hearing on another forum about my 'go to' morning coffee and western comfort food diner, being closed for 'low season'. That has never happened before on previous low-season June trips at Deli Diner, was it open when you were in Pattaya?

arsenal
June 8th, 2018, 08:29
Newalaan. Sorry, it was closed for the entire time. However, if it's any consolation La Petit Planete was excellent every time I ate there. Their lasagne is superb.

Chuai-Duai
June 8th, 2018, 12:43
Deli Diner currently has a notice saying it is closed for the Low Season.

francois
June 8th, 2018, 13:09
Newalaan. Sorry, it was closed for the entire time. However, if it's any consolation La Petit Planete was excellent every time I ate there. Their lasagne is superb.

Lasagne is good, but far from superb.

arsenal
June 8th, 2018, 15:51
So what constitutes 'superb' in uour opinion Francois?

Because this one was generous, baked to order, plenty of meat, cheese and sauce, nicely gratinated and served with a crisp dressed salad and fresh bread and butter.

francois
June 8th, 2018, 18:52
su·perb
so͞oˈpərb/Submit
adjective
1.
excellent.
"a superb performance"
synonyms: excellent, superlative, first-rate, first-class, outstanding, remarkable, marvelous, magnificent, wonderful, splendid, admirable, noteworthy, impressive, fine, exquisite, exceptional, glorious;

Manforallseasons
June 8th, 2018, 19:14
So what constitutes 'superb' in uour opinion Francois?

Because this one was generous, baked to order, plenty of meat, cheese and sauce, nicely gratinated and served with a crisp dressed salad and fresh bread and butter.

I was there for a late lunch today I had this dish....all these are frozen and when ordered are microwaved...it came with a small salad and day old bread, the tomato sauce was excellent, the noodles were overdone...not bad but not superb.

scottish-guy
June 8th, 2018, 20:50
Would it be a “trite” comment if I express surprise at a Lasagne dish containing noodles?

I’m sure Arsenal demanded chips and Heinz tomato ketchup with his

:unknw_mini:

arsenal
June 8th, 2018, 21:04
Lasagnegate. An SGT mini series starring arsenal as an undercover food reporter, Francois as the pasta policeman, MFAS as the unwitting victim of a noodle substitution and stale bread conspiracy and Scottish as his usual self. Let the credits roll.

dinagam
June 8th, 2018, 21:17
A pasta by any other name would taste as good as another noodle.
Ask any traditional cook. What recipe?

werner
June 10th, 2018, 18:05
Werner. There's loads of stuff to do during the day. Including the two sheep farms, Mini Siam, the floating market, Ice of Siam, Sanctuary of Truth, two water parks, the multiplex in Central Festival, the Big Bee Farm, the dolphin show, the aquarium the croc farm and many many other 'attractions'. Now most of them are rubbish but that's not the point. They're pretty cheap and by the time you've got there and had a mooch about then a coffee and gone back home it's taken up the main part of the day. Alternatively rent a motorbike and with a full tank of petrol and money on your phone head off and see what you see.

I can tell you that a longish ride through the Pattaya hills followed by a sensual massage and soaping down by a hot Thai masseur takes some beating.

Arsenal, Thanks for the suggestions, but none of this sounds of interest, except for the sensual massage. I would definitely NOT want to visit sheep farms, dolphin shows, croc farms, even if I were paid to do so. Perhaps I should just stay in Bangkok.....

Manforallseasons
June 10th, 2018, 20:02
You mean you don't want to see the Sanctuary of Truth?

paborn
June 10th, 2018, 21:25
Arsenal, Thanks for the suggestions, but none of this sounds of interest, except for the sensual massage. I would definitely NOT want to visit sheep farms, dolphin shows, croc farms, even if I were paid to do so. Perhaps I should just stay in Bangkok.....

Werner, if you don't go to Pattaya you will regret it. I avoided it for a decade and, now, can't think of any reason to stay in Bangkok.

paborn
June 10th, 2018, 21:26
A pasta by any other name would taste as good as another noodle.
Ask any traditional cook. What recipe?

Not true at all. Tradiional Italian cooks know that pasta shapes should be selected to compliment the type of sauce to be used. It's basic to Italian cooking

scottish-guy
June 10th, 2018, 22:43
Paborn, congratulations on tackling his comment - I was going to, but I couldn't understand it!

sglad
June 10th, 2018, 23:43
A pasta by any other name would taste as good as another noodle.

Is that what you tell your partner when he sees you naked for the first time?

werner
June 17th, 2018, 14:08
Werner, if you don't go to Pattaya you will regret it. I avoided it for a decade and, now, can't think of any reason to stay in Bangkok.

Paborn, Thanks for your advice! But I am a city boy, and maybe I will just stay in Bangkok.......

frequent
June 17th, 2018, 14:15
Werner, if you don't go to Pattaya you will regret it. I avoided it for a decade and, now, can't think of any reason to stay in Bangkok.I've lived in Bangkok for many years. I visited Pattaya once. I regretted it

scottish-guy
June 17th, 2018, 15:09
I'm with Paborn - nothing in BKK has attracted me for many years. When I visited it was for maybe 3 days on arrival and 2 before departure again.

I was only there for fun and on the first few trips (in between the fun) I saw and did all the touristy things and I have no desire to see or do them again. I have no desire or interest in going to concerts or anything like that - my idea of fun is boys & booze and I could indulge both in the go-go bars.

Unfortunately the go-go bars became pricier and pricier (as did the boys), and (just as importantly) the effort of packing and unpacking and moving back and forth to/from Pattaya just became a chore - so I gave BKK up and just went straight to Pattaya on arrival.

In those days Pattaya was far busier, much cheaper, and the age to work in the bars was 18 whereas in BKK it was 21 which I realise will be too young for some but I loved it!

From reading this board I don't see any news about BKK which would make me reconsider my decision to simply bypass it.

gerefan2
June 18th, 2018, 02:18
I’m a Suana fan and so like to visit Babylon and Sauna Mania in BKK. As Pattaya has nothing to offer that is remotely similar I enjoy a few days in BKK on arrival and maybe on departure depending on how long I am staying in Thailand.

Oliver2
June 18th, 2018, 11:55
I agree about Babylon Sauna; it continues to attract young men who don't turn their noses up at people like me. However, we went to Sansuk in Pattaya twice last week and , while the absence of falangs in Boyztown was a minus, in Sansuk it was a plus. I suggest that a couple of hours in the late afternoon/early evening is easily as productive as in Babylon at the moment.
Good restaurant, too- at least the Thai menu.

frequent
June 18th, 2018, 12:50
I agree about Babylon Sauna; it continues to attract young men who don't turn their noses up at people like me. However, we went to Sansuk in Pattaya twice last week and , while the absence of falangs in Boyztown was a minus, in Sansuk it was a plus. I suggest that a couple of hours in the late afternoon/early evening is easily as productive as in Babylon at the moment.
Good restaurant, too- at least the Thai menu.

"We"? You and your boyfriend go to the sauna together?

latintopxxx
June 19th, 2018, 01:06
...and whats wrong with going to a gay sauna/sex venue with your partner?? Dont tell me you subscribe to the whole white picket fence/monogamy dream?? LOL

Nirish guy
June 19th, 2018, 01:45
I'm with Latin on this one......

scottish-guy
June 19th, 2018, 04:24
Not my cup of tea - but provided that both are agreeable and it's not a case of one partner coercing the other then I guess that's up to them.

latintopxxx
June 19th, 2018, 06:58
coerce?! WTF...u clearly dont know my partner...its a competition

scottish-guy
June 19th, 2018, 13:35
Wasn't talking specifically about your situation

arsenal
June 19th, 2018, 15:30
The nature of a sauna is 'pot luck' so I prefer to shop in the go go bars. I've spent hours in the London saunas waiting for someone decent looking to show up.

paborn
June 19th, 2018, 19:56
Ah, yes. And I've spent many hours waiting for someone who thought I might be decent and the older I get there are rapidly vasnishing returns from this. Go-go bars, I salute you.