Dusseldorf - June 2018

[Blacktouch]

I'm off to Dusseldorf in June for couple of nights.

It's seems there are a couple of rent bars there.

Will give full report once I've been.

Any up to date info?

[scottish-guy]

Not since my last visit a couple of years ago. Comeback Bar is/was the pick of the bunch for commercial sex

[Nirish guy]

Just in case it's of interest / is your thing there's a reasonable gay suana in Dusseldorf -

Name : Phoenix Sauna
Address : Platanenstraße 11A, 40233 Düsseldorf
http://duesseldorf.phoenixsaunen.net/

[Blacktouch]

Not since my last visit a couple of years ago. Comeback Bar is/was the pick of the bunch for commercial sex

Thank you. Yes Comeback Bar is still open. There is also a bar called Willma where one can pick up as well. The apartment I've book is on the same street as those bars.
Will give report once I'm back from the trip.

[Blacktouch]

Just in case it's of interest / is your thing there's a reasonable gay suana in Dusseldorf -

Name : Phoenix Sauna
Address : Platanenstraße 11A, 40233 Düsseldorf
http://duesseldorf.phoenixsaunen.net/

Thank you. I saw that sauna listed during my research.

[a447]

Will give report once I'm back from the trip.

Please do. I'm always looking for new destinations to "explore."

[StevieWonders]

Is it true that you are an Australian a447? Have you been tampering with any balls recently yourself?

[a447]

As a matter of fact, I have!

But most of my most blatant ball tampering occurs in Thailand.

I'll be starting tomorrow in Bangkok.

And I've tampered with lots of balls in Germany over the years, but never in Düsseldorf.

[Blacktouch]

Please do. I'm always looking for new destinations to "explore."

I'm always looking for new destinations to explore myself.

Hope to start visiting other Cities soon.

[Magnum]

You could check out City Boys, http://www.cityboys.eu/. Sometimes they have some cute boys, most from east europe countries. Recently they moved out from the City Center to Kaarst, but it's still quite close to Düsseldorf.

[Blacktouch]

Completed a trip to Dusseldorf.

Monday 4th to Wednesday 6th June. (2 nights)

Went from London Luton to Weeze Airport with Ryanair. Weeze airport is one hour and fifteen minutes away by coach, arriving at Dusseldorf main train station.

The flight took one hour and ten minutes.

There are two Rent boy bars in Dusseldorf. One called Wilma and the other one called Comeback, which is the biggest bar out of the two. The good thing is there are both right next door to each other.

The weather was warm so we sat outside and could see the young men coming and going.

A small beer was €2.60 And a a large beer was €3.50

The young men in attendance at the time were from Romania, Macedonia and Bulgaria. They were not bad looking and age from 17 to 26. There was about 16 guys in total which is not bad for a weekday. I'm told by the owner of Wilma, who was also the only bar staff on duty, that weekends are busier. He also informed us that they are 80% down in boy numbers due to Ramadan, as they are away with family etc.

Normally there will be Tunisians, Moroccans, Turkish and other nationalities available on offer.

There were about five guys I would easily go with.
They were friendly and not pushy.

Most had big cocks and were more than happy to get erections so you can see without taking it out. Wink wink!

The going rate for short time fun is €50. But most will say from €100. You just have to laugh and say no thanks. They soon dropped the price to €50 to €60. A few would say the price was €50 straight away without trying to go too high?

They are all mainly tops. And don't like kissing or sucking you. But I'm sure one or two would kiss once back to your accommodation.

On our last night, I brought about 8 guys drinks - small beer or class of coke. All sitting/standing around us chatting away.

So after Ramadan they expect to get the rest of the guys back and should be A good choice of young guys to pick from.

There is a gay club called Queens, which only opens at weekends. So that was closed while we were there.

There was another gay bar, but not much people in there. So we never bothed going in.

Would I go back again? Yes, as I have unfinished business. Lol. Also as Ramadan is taking place, I would do another trip not during Ramadan. And also would go during the weekend.

Our accommodation was from booking.com which was a nice apartment/studio type accommodation. 5 minutes walking from all the action.

Total Cost for the two of us was as followed:

Dusdeldorf Costings

Flights booked 3 months in advance.

Flights............ £39.94
Transfers........ £17.99
Apartment.... £129.00

Total Cost £187.21
= £93.60 Each.

[Nirish guy]

Thanks for the informative report, always good to know for future use. And well done on actually managing to ACTUALLY have a cheap weekend away, my weekends always seem to start from that intention but never somehow seem to end up that way !

[Blacktouch]

My next trip is to Athens in September.

There is a lot of action going on there, and very cheap from what I've been told.

Full report once I've been.

[scottish-guy]

Seems you found almost exactly the same as I did almost 4 years ago:

https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?16676-Dusseldorf

Maybe Bon Viveur bar is closed now - about 3/4 mile walk from main train station with the station behind you - if so, that's a pity, but if not you missed a trick!

Dusseldorf is great - I recommend staying in the Ibis which is part of the train station and apart from being walking distance to the rent bars, you'll never get lost on your way back, as there's a large clock on the train station which is visible from most of the main streets and will guide you back to your hotel. Had no problem dragging boys back even though reception desk directly opposite the lifts - simply no questions asked.

[Blacktouch]

Seems you found almost exactly the same as I did almost 4 years ago:

https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?16676-Dusseldorf

Maybe Bon Viveur bar is closed now - about 3/4 mile walk from main train station with the station behind you - if so, that's a pity, but if not you missed a trick!

Dusseldorf is great - I recommend staying in the Ibis which is part of the train station and apart from being walking distance to the rent bars, you'll never get lost on your way back, as there's a large clock on the train station which is visible from most of the main streets and will guide you back to your hotel. Had no problem dragging boys back even though reception desk directly opposite the lifts - simply no questions asked.

Bon Viveur bar is closed, because the boys told me those were the only bars open where boys go.

Yes the main train station is only a 4 minutes walk to the two Rent Bars.

I got the feeling some of the boys would do more with you, once in private and not in ear shot of the other boys. I'm guessing to show face, keeping to the straight boy image?

We also went to the Schumaker Brewery pub. Had some of their beer which is made on site. Very strong and got a little tipsy drinking the beer.

[Manforallseasons]

My next trip is to Athens in September.

There is a lot of action going on there, and very cheap from what I've been told.

Full report once I've been.

I am sure you will enjoy Athens, I have seen a report on television showing many young desperate muslim migrants.

[goji]

Thanks for the report. I might just have to visit.


Bon Viveur barI got the feeling some of the boys would do more with you, once in private and not in ear shot of the other boys. I'm guessing to show face, keeping to the straight boy image?


That's a possibility, although it's a bit of a risk committing to a fee with no guarantee of the service you're after.

Another possibility is that they don't even do what has been agreed, therefore leaving you with the options of paying them off or physically kicking them out (as I do, when circumstances require). Romanian & moslem trade don't seem to bother with ethical business practices.

[scottish-guy]

Well they definitely do more than they let on in the bar

I took at least 2 of them out of Comeback and into a nearby Japanese Karaoke bar then (after a horrendously expensive litre of Chivas Regal was consumed) definitely took 2 back to the hotel for a 3sum and far from the usual very commercial disinterested Eastern European experience they were both more than enthusiastic and still there the next morning - in fact I had to shoo them away.

They did not interact sexually with each other (no surprises there) but lets just say they both performed admirably

[Blacktouch]

goji, not completely correct. These guys told me what they will do and not do. And I believe them. One example is most will not kiss, suck or get fucked. They are happy for you to suck them and get fucked by them. So if they do more once back at your accommodation, you are lucky.

Of course you will get one or more who may not perform to how you want or what they agreed. But I believe that is just a small minority, than the majority?
One Bulgarian who I fancied, but never got the opportunity to go with, because I had already cummed earlier, I got the feeling he would have kissed by the way he was with me.

As in any meets, one should always agree beforehand what the young man will and will not do, to avoid any disappointment.

[Blacktouch]

Well they definitely do more than they let on in the bar

I took at least 2 of them out of Comeback and into a nearby Japanese Karaoke bar then (after a horrendously expensive litre of Chivas Regal was consumed) definitely took 2 back to the hotel for a 3sum and far from the usual very commercial disinterested Eastern European experience they were both more than enthusiastic and still there the next morning - in fact I had to shoo them away.

They did not interact sexually with each other (no surprises there) but lets just say they both performed admirably

I fully agree, as what they tell you in the bar, they will do more. Just have to chat and agree what they are willing to do with you. And once back at your accommodation, if they do more like kiss, suck you or get fucked, your lucky.

[scottish-guy]

Worst dud I ever got was an 18yo in Amsterdam - from the old Festival bar I think.

Once back at the hotel it was "I don't fuck, I don't get fucked, I don't suck, I don't touch you in any way, I don't kiss" and then when the very limited options left had commenced, he came out with the daddy of the lot "DON'T TOUCH MY HAIR"

I know some will condemn but I just paid him off to get rid of him - and then to cap it all he asked for a "tip" on top!

The tip I gave him was "get another fucking job as you're useless at this one"

:p

[latintopxxx]

Reminds me of Rome, all the MB were north african (light skinned Moriccan/Tunisian) types, ALL were tops, happy to top and get sucked off, no kissing. I made it clear that I was in the market for a good piece of ass...I was not dissapointed. So as some have mentioned here, dont always believe the label claim on the packaging.

[goji]

I know some will condemn but I just paid him off to get rid of him - and then to cap it all he asked for a "tip" on top!
The tip I gave him was "get another fucking job as you're useless at this one"
:p

The condemnation: He might be useless at the prostitution part, but he's clearly good at scamming clients without even needing to perform. When this happens, I refuse to pay & kick them out. To pay them is just to support their dishonest business model.

Admittedly, I suppose it's easier to force them out when offing small slim guys, rather than the large muscular type.

[Blacktouch]

Worst dud I ever got was an 18yo in Amsterdam - from the old Festival bar I think.

Once back at the hotel it was "I don't fuck, I don't get fucked, I don't suck, I don't touch you in any way, I don't kiss" and then when the very limited options left had commenced, he came out with the daddy of the lot "DON'T TOUCH MY HAIR"

I know some will condemn but I just paid him off to get rid of him - and then to cap it all he asked for a "tip" on top!

The tip I gave him was "get another fucking job as you're useless at this one"

:p

Did you not agree everything beforehand. Like "Do you kiss?" "Do you suck?" "Do you fuck?" "Do you get fucked?" Etc etc.

[goji]

Did you not agree everything beforehand. Like "Do you kiss?" "Do you suck?" "Do you fuck?" "Do you get fucked?" Etc etc.
As he's obviously well travelled, I imagine Scottish Guy agreed a few details in advance, but some of these moslem & Romanian rent boys are lying c*nts.

They will say anything to get into your room. Once through the door, there can be an instant change in their attitude, then you have the choice between paying them to leave or manhandling them out of the door. I have always chosen the latter option. Paying them to leave just encourages further deception.

There is of course the other type of Romanian boy who is honest, decent & provides a fair service for a fair price.

[latintopxxx]

scotty is a frail old confrontation averse gent....guess he would not be in a position to physically manhandle anyone.

[scottish-guy]

I'm neither old nor frail but I don't see the point of making a scene over a few quid - whether it's a meal or a rentboy - best just to not use again and move on IMHO

[latintopxxx]

sa scot with class...who would have guessed

[Nirish guy]

.......guess he would not be in a position to physically manhandle anyone.

In all seriousness based on the approximate average age of most of us here and just as we were discussing on another thread other day re knife crime etc, we could be well advised to think twice these days before being of a mind to "man handle" anyone anywhere anymore !

In the past we might have felt that a bit of a shove and maybe a punch or two was called for or acceptable but nowadays that same shove alone could have a typical 20 something pull a knife on you, stabbing you somewhere fatal and leaving you lying on the floor mortally wondered, wondering what happened as you slowly bleed to death as you debate should you call an ambulance and all that just from pushing the wrong guy ! :-(

Unfortunately it's a sad fact of life these days and one that we all perhaps need to remember and be aware of a little more of than in the past perhaps - the world is ever changing and not always for the better it seems :-(

[paborn]

I'm neither old nor frail but I don't see the point of making a scene over a few quid - whether it's a meal or a rentboy - best just to not use again and move on IMHO

Even in my youth it was not worth it. Get into an altercation for the price of a cocktail? Travel thousands of miles and worry about what is, after all, a tiny cost.

[a447]

In all seriousness based on the approximate average age of most of us here and just as we were discussing on another thread other day re knife crime etc, we could be well advised to think twice these days before being of a mind to "man handle" anyone anywhere anymore !

Yep, I agree.

I am confident I could defend myself in most situations, but would still be reluctant to take on a young guy.

A knife or a machete brings something new into the equation and my reflexes may not be quick enough these days. I wouldn't risk it.

But take away the knife and I'd probably be ok - that is, until the police come knocking on the door to charge me with assault. No matter who is at fault in Thailand, the farang hasn't got a chance.

So I'd forgo any altercation, put it down to experience and just move on.

As paborn says, it's not worth it.

On the surface, Dusseldorf sounds attractive but I'm rather wary of guys from Eastern Europe.

[Blacktouch]

In all seriousness based on the approximate average age of most of us here and just as we were discussing on another thread other day re knife crime etc, we could be well advised to think twice these days before being of a mind to "man handle" anyone anywhere anymore !

In the past we might have felt that a bit of a shove and maybe a punch or two was called for or acceptable but nowadays that same shove alone could have a typical 20 something pull a knife on you, stabbing you somewhere fatal and leaving you lying on the floor mortally wondered, wondering what happened as you slowly bleed to death as you debate should you call an ambulance and all that just from pushing the wrong guy ! :-(

Unfortunately it's a sad fact of life these days and one that we all perhaps need to remember and be aware of a little more of than in the past perhaps - the world is ever changing and not always for the better it seems :-(

Everything you quoted is completely correct.

I strongly advise our fellow members and guests to be very careful if/when confronting anyone. The young people today are very confrontational these days.

It's just not worth the hassle or bother. Just give them the agreed amount. And call it a lucky day. You could always tell others after "That lad is rubbish".

Just put it down to experience and just move on!

You won't be going with him again, so it's his lost. And others will soon learn about the young man in question. So in the end he will loose out.

[goji]

Getting back on topic, a quick perusal of the Dusseldorf Escorts section on Planet Romeo, Hunqz or whatever they call it, shows relatively few on offer there & more about 30 miles down the road, in Cologne as far as I can tell.

[Nirish guy]

One could of course always just go somewhere and hook up with a local or two, surely doesn't always need to be an escort ( unless that's all part of the kick I guess ?) as from memory Grindr etc in Dusseldorf and Cologne was quite busy and there were actually several cute asian guys on there too from what I recall ( getting a piece of action whilst their boyfriend was out at work from what I recall from one conversation I had - that's what I like to see, good time management skills being put to effect use ! :-)

[goji]

surely doesn't always need to be an escort
Correct, although Asian guys about 30 years younger than me rarely want to meet up without compensation.
There have been some wonderful exceptions.

[pong]

or the apps/sites: hunqz (formerly planet/gayromeo-rescorts) and in german: spritzjungs.de
Phoenix is a local german chain of gay sauna's in that area-also in Köln and Essen.
Actually Köln (cologne for british and unknown with other names) is said to have even more as Berlin gay capital of germany and is about 30/40 mins away by frequent local train (not that cheap, as its in another traffic-area). if you have a little more time and not yet booked, consider combining the 2 and fly in to 1 and out of 2). Both have many cheap budget flights-eurowings/germanwings or flybe, avoid RYAN at all cost-it does not fly into DUS but a former RAF base some 90 kms away (weeze/niederrhein-in fact only 3/4 kms from dutch border).

[Blacktouch]

I am off to Dusseldorf again on Friday, but just for one night. The last visit was midweek, and I'm told Friday/Saturday nights are much better and busier?

The last trip was ok, but it was during Ramadan, and most of the guys were away. Plus two other gay venues were closed as they only open during the weekends.

Full report again, once I'm back.

[RonanTheBarbarian]

Looking forward to reading it...

[goji]

I went to Düsseldorf back in the summer.
The 2 rent bars were right next to each other. 3 Romanians, only one of whom just about looked cute enough for me. However, he was a top, same as the other two. Wouldn't kiss, suck or bottom, so nothing of interest for me there. I suppose some people might pay for that, but not me.

The sauna was fairly quiet.
I hooked up with a Filipino on an app and he was very good. He works as a nurse, however in one of the neighbouring towns, so your chances of finding him may not be so high.
I stayed in the IBIS at the station. This is very good value & quiet.

I would say Cologne is a better bet. OK, as far as I know there are no rent bars surviving, however the general gay scene is larger, there are more lads on line & the sauna is better. Some of the gay bars are very good fun.

[Blacktouch]

Looking forward to reading it...

I am back from Dusseldorf. Went Friday morning till Saturday evening.

I took an Ryanair flight from Stansted Airport departing at 07:35, and arriving Weeze Airport (1 hour, 10 mins/68.1 km away From Dusseldorf City Centre) at 09:50. Took the local bus from the airport to Weeze HB station, from there took the train to Kempen, then change trains to one all the way to Dusseldorf HB station.

Checked-in to the City Hotel Dusseldorf, which was right next door to the two rent bars. Check-in was 15:00, but I arrived at the hotel at 14:00 after having lunch, but they let me check-in anyway.

I then went for a walk down by the river and then to the Germany Brewery called "Brewery Schumacher". Excellent beer and very cheap. Plus I had a roast pork meal with potatoes and a salad bowl.

About 6pm, after my three beers and meal costing €23, I made my way to the rent bar called "Comeback". This is the biggest and best bar out of the two, rent bars, which are both next door to each other. I walked in and there were about 13 punters and 15 guys. Most were sitting with a punter and one or two by the slot machines.

The good looking ones seem to be all taken, as they were sitting, chatting and drinking with their prospective clients. I sat on a stool by the bar having a nice candy look. Then one of the guys I was chatting to on my previous visit back in June (feel free to read my report) came up to me and started chatting and offer to go with me. Realising the other guys were occupied, I opted to go with this guy I was chatting to and we left for my hotel next door. The night staff did not say a word to us as we went in the lift. My single room was on the 5th floor and was very comfortable.

Well I was very surprised by my companion. He was excellent. He kissed very passionately, suck ok and we fucked. The rest you can imagine! Wink wink!

This cost €50 and after we finished, we cleaned up and made our way back downstairs to the bar. I offered him a drink, and he politely asked for a sprite.

All those other younger guys were still occupied, so I just sat there admiring the talent around me. Majority of the guys were from Macidona, some Romania and some from Bulgaria and one from somewhere else, can't remember the Country.

After a couple of beers, I made my way to the other gay bars in the area. I visited two, which were ok, then went to Queens Bar/Club across the road from Comeback bar. By this time, a few of the MB's who were in Comeback bar were at Queens when I walked in. But none of those cuteties that were occupied were there. (Not that I was horny) Guessing they went with they clients. I left Queens bar/club about 4am and back to my hotel to sleep, after a kabab.

Next day I had a few hours to kill before my flight back to the UK. So after checking-out of my hotel at 12 noon, I made my way to the river again, walked about, had lunch and made my way to the airport.

Overall my trip was pleasant, had fun, and hotel was nice. Hotel was £60 for one night. The Ibis right next door to the main station was about £50 and a much better deal, but I had booked the City Hotel Dusseldorf already. Pays to shop around first. But hey, I was happy with my hotel I stayed in. I deliberately choosed that hotel as it was next door to the rent bars.

Flight £18
Hotel £60
Dusseldo Train & bus €15.30 each way
Train in London to Stansted £25 return
MB €50

I hear Hamburg may be good. So will give that a try. I've been to Berlin and Barcelona few times, but guess they are due anther visit sometime soon.

[goji]

Flight £18
Hotel £60
Dusseldo Train & bus €15.30 each way
Train in London to Stansted £25 return
MB €50


Now that is a good deal.
When I went, the flight from London City with Flybe was £49 and they went to the proper Düsseldorf airport.
However, I bet you have the best price for flying on a Friday.

[gerefan2]

Flight £18
Hotel £60
Dusseldo Train & bus €15.30 each way
Train in London to Stansted £25 return
MB €50
.

Total about £168, plus food and drink = £200 for 2 days.. Amazing, as I always say to myself that any holiday costs £100 per day irrespective of where you go or what you do!

[Blacktouch]

Total about £168, plus food and drink = £200 for 2 days.. Amazing, as I always say to myself that any holiday costs £100 per day irrespective of where you go or what you do!

Yes running cost about £200. But you have meals on top of that. About €40. Breakfast was part of hotel cost.

[scottish-guy]

.... I always say to myself that any holiday costs £100 per day irrespective of where you go or what you do!

Tried London on £100 a day including travel and accom?

[gerefan2]

Tried London on £100 a day including travel and accom?

Its the exception that proves the rule! Anyway, I don't count London as I live there!

[scottish-guy]

You must be rolling in it!!

:p

[goji]

You must be rolling in it!!:p
Or could be rolling in it after selling up and moving north.

[scottish-guy]

You wouldn’t have to move too far north to still be rolling in it after selling up in London

[gerefan2]

Or could be rolling in it after selling up and moving north.

Err not North, preferably West!

[goji]

Err not North, preferably West!
Moving to somewhere like Middlesborough would raise more cash than somewhere like Bath.

However, one may be more pleasant than the other.

[scottish-guy]

If you do like to be beside the seaside, there's always Blackpool.

They even have tranny shows, just like Thailand

[gerefan2]

Moving to somewhere like Middlesborough would raise more cash than somewhere like Bath.

However, one may be more pleasant than the other.

Precisely.

[frequent]

If you do like to be beside the seaside, there's always Blackpool.

They even have tranny shows, just like ThailandWhy omit Brighton? Rupert Everett gave an interview some years ago and when asked about his retirement plans replied “Hanging around the Gents at Brighton Station”

[christianpfc]

I am back from Dusseldorf.
...
MB €50
50 Euro, that's about 1900 THB. Was that with negotiation or because you are a repeat customer?
Supports my opinion that Soi Twilight is outrageously expensive.

[Blacktouch]

50 Euro, that's about 1900 THB. Was that with negotiation or because you are a repeat customer?
Supports my opinion that Soi Twilight is outrageously expensive.

MB's charge between €40 And €50 (Euros) for short time fun. Although I've heard people on this forum say they paid that for an overnight too.

The MB's, just a few, will try their luck and say more, like €100? I know the going rate, which is in fact €50. So I just smile and say no thanks politely. Then they start to lower the price. A bit like any where else really. If they think you are new, of course they will try a higher price. But we are not stupid. We do our research beforehand.

My last trip back in June, one MB offered to go with me for €40 and that include kissing. But at the time I was not hungry, so to speak. I already went with somebody not to long ago. This MB was nice, and was very interested in me, but unfortunately I had already cummed. One must take what they like straight away before it is too late, as they may not be there or around next time round?

[AsDaRa]

Düsseldorf the city in Germany?
Or is there a bar in Pattaya/Bangkok with that name.

Else does this mean Germany has gay gogo bars?

[Blacktouch]

Düsseldorf the city in Germany?
Or is there a bar in Pattaya/Bangkok with that name.

Else does this mean Germany has gay gogo bars?

Yes Düsseldorf the City. I was there in June and again in October.

There are two "rent bars" in Düsseldorf. But no gogo bars as such.

[AsDaRa]

What type of boys are in these Düsseldorf bars available for rent? Twinks? And what is the price for short time? They are Asian boys?

[scottish-guy]

No, they are not Asian - they are Eastern European or North African and the going rate is 50-60 Euro but you can haggle it if that's your thing (it's not mine). Ages are 18-30 but beware of younger (the other lads alerted me to one who was considerably younger)

Don't expect any pretence of affection like in Thailand - it's strictly business to them

[AsDaRa]

I wonder why this business model has disappeared in my country. Didn't Amsterdam have before my time bars with rent boys? Prostitution is legal, yet I am not aware we have gogo bars or beer bars here in the Netherlands. But Germany has them! We don;t, i wonder why? Interesting. I will try out Düsseldorf. Not that far from my place.

[Blacktouch]

Germany seem to be the Country leading with "Rent Boy Bars".

• Berlin have 4
• Dusseldorf have 2
• Hamburg have 2

I wonder how many other Cities in Germany have such bars?

If anybody have info, please enlighten us?

[AsDaRa]

And 50 EUR short time in Düsseldorf is like 2000 baht. So Bangkok prices. If the boys are twinks, I can go each weekend to Düsseldorf. I think 1.5 hour by train.

[scottish-guy]

I've been saying on this forum for years that Germany is the last place in Europe to have any decent rent scene.

Most big cities still have rent bars. Hamburg a shadow of itself since the closing of the world-infamous boy brothel in the Reeperbahn and the death of the owner, H - but still the best tea and cake in Germany at Cafe Gnosa gay cake shop

The boys in the bars are old fashioned hustlers - they don't normally use apps they just turn up and hawk their wares. Of course you'll find high-end escorts online at fancy prices - but a bit of rough is always welcome :D

It all reminds me of Amsterdam's Paardenstraat in it's 80's heyday of Music Box, Cupido, and Festival bars.

From there I got Dutch twin brothers, smoked coke with a boy called Rico (he wore a diamond but wasn't from the Copacabana) - amongst many many other dodgy adventures I wouldn't even dream of doing nowadays. A few duds as well but fond memories.

Very much AYOR though - I've been mugged in Berlin. Never felt unsafe in Pattaya or BKK even in an almost deserted Sunee at 3 or 4am (cue MiniMee or Arsepiece)

But better be quick - it's all starting to wither away - on last trip to Berlin I noticed the HUGE Bruno's (Gmunder) sex shop neat Nollensdorf U-Bahn station had shut down - biggest sex shop I have ever set foot in anywhere in the world.

[arsenal]

Thank you for the introduction. It's nice that you can contribute something useful for once rather than your usual offerings of 'jokes' and your personal fetish taste.

And yes. To date I've never felt unsafe in Pattaya, even as you say at 4 or 5 in the morning in Sunee, BT or Jomtien.

Of course, it's been nearly 9 years since you partook of any Teutonic sexual activity so you won't have any idea about current prices.

[a447]

Do guys still work in brothels in Germany?

I used to drive past a large establishment every day just outside of Göttingen but never got the chance to go in and ask.

[arsenal]

I simply can't believe you "drove past" without going in. That's not the a447 of today. Haha.

[Oliver2]

Any recommendations for hotels in Dusseldorf?

[scottish-guy]

Yes - the IBIS on the exterior of the main train station - no problem with joiners and no problem to find if you’ve been out wandering

[arsenal]

Scottish Guy wrote.
"No problem with joiners."

When was this? Was it recently?

[Blacktouch]

Any recommendations for hotels in Dusseldorf?

In June 2018 a friend and I stayed in an apartment booked via Bookings.com with a minimum stay of two nights needed. We stayed at Apartments Charlotte which is just two streets from the two rent bars.
About 3 minutes walk away.

My last visit in October 2018, I was on my own, and visited just for one night. I stayed in a hotel called City-Hotel Dusseldorf right next door to the two rent bars.

Now I had no problem bring back a lad to my room. The night staff at the reception desk just looked and weaved hello to me.

I normally only book apartments on all my trips, as prefer the privacy etc. But on this occasion I had to book a hotel as was on my own and most apartments have a minimum two nights stay.

The City-Hotel Dusseldorf was excellent. Comfortable, very clean, and they even give guests a free 24 hour transport pass for bus, tram, metro and train, which also covers the train all the way to the Weeze Airport 2 hours away. Unfortunately, I forgot about this excellent offer, and brought my return train ticket before I got to the hotel when I arrived on the day. And it was also mentioned in the reviews about the hotel.

The Ibis Hotel right next to the main train station is good I hear from others, and is only 5 minutes walk to the bars in question.

There is also another hotel called Leonardo Boutique Hotel Dusseldorf, one street away from the bars. I visited this hotel back during my June trip to meet a MB who was staying at this hotel. It was very discreet. I called the MB when I arrived, he told me his room number and what floor he was on. I entered via the hotel entrance and nobody saw me and I made my way to the lift and went to his room for my fun time!

So this hotel seem good, plus it was cheaper than the City-hotel Dusseldorf, and the price included breakfast. So if I were to visit Dusseldorf again, I think my choice will be that hotel.

All three hotels and the apartment mentioned above can be booked via Bookings.com where the prices are much cheaper.

My next trip to rent bars experience will be Hamburg (No date yet?). Full report once I'm back.

[goji]

Worst dud I ever got was an 18yo in Amsterdam - from the old Festival bar I think.

Once back at the hotel it was "I don't fuck, I don't get fucked, I don't suck, I don't touch you in any way, I don't kiss" and then when the very limited options left had commenced, he came out with the daddy of the lot "DON'T TOUCH MY HAIR"

I know some will condemn but I just paid him off to get rid of him - and then to cap it all he asked for a "tip" on top!

The tip I gave him was "get another fucking job as you're useless at this one"

:p
Last time I had someone like that, I opened the (steel) door to my apartment room and asked him to leave. As he declined to do so, I pushed him through it. On the way, I detected his arms moving to brace himself against the door frame, so I tripped him up at that point and straight through he went. He quietly walked off.
Paying non-performers encourages non-performance.

[Blacktouch]

Paying non-performers encourages non-performance.

Surely none-performers don't or won't get much business, as no punters will give them return business. So they end up relying on just new customers?

[Jacky]

Last time I had someone like that, I opened the (steel) door to my apartment room and asked him to leave. As he declined to do so, I pushed him through it. On the way, I detected his arms moving to brace himself against the door frame, so I tripped him up at that point and straight through he went. He quietly walked off.
Paying non-performers encourages non-performance.

I imagine you are a big strong man.

[AsDaRa]

Any updates on this alternative location now Thailand becomes too expensive for some, due to the strong baht?
Maybe we should write more about Cambodia, Laos or Vietnam to get travel ideas, because for me Thailand is really becoming slowly too expensive, I go back to 2 times a year I think.

[frequent]

Any updates on this alternative location now Thailand becomes too expensive for some, due to the strong baht?
Maybe we should write more about Cambodia, Laos or Vietnam to get travel ideas, because for me Thailand is really becoming slowly too expensive, I go back to 2 times a year I think.I prefer Bavaria, home of mad kings, to those northern German states, even though they're more likely to have those Aryan boys to hand

[goji]

Surely none-performers don't or won't get much business, as no punters will give them return business. So they end up relying on just new customers?Yes. However, if the scammers who have no intention of performing operate in a big city with plenty of fresh punters turning up each week, they can make a living out of scamming new punters. That relies on the punters being dumb enough to pay them off after providing no service.
To optimise the system for the benefit of genuine customers and genuine boys, it is better if we all resist paying off the scammers as far as is practical.



I imagine you are a big strong man. No, I am actually quite skinny for my age & not particularly muscular. Fortunately, I also like small skinny lads.

I don't particularly like pushing them out of the door. However if they are trying to con me by posing as prostitutes and then refusing to undress and then refusing to leave when I ask them to, then they will get shoved out of the door.
I understand this will be more difficult when I am 70 or if I start taking muscular lads.

Incidentally, I've never needed to do this in Asia. Only in Europe.