The petulant remarks of arsenal

[lonelywombat]

The petulant remarks of arsenal is the reason most people are just staying away from here.
There is a category when personal vibes can be posted but apparently nobody is interested in making it happen.
More people are now exchanging email or using private here or other forums.
Moderators were appointed by Moses He tolerates or accepts arsenal maybe because he can get nobody else.
It is time for a change .

[scottish-guy]

Why Moses tolerates or accepts Arsenal's behaviour can only be speculation - but a willingness to do exactly as he's told would seem to be a reasonable guess.

I think you're wrong about nobody else wanting to do the job - the allure of a plastic badge will appeal to many.

I have of course publicly ruled myself out (not that I'd be asked in any event and I don't fall into the unquestioning obedience category)

I seem to remember Arsenal publicly ruling himself out of modding on this board, then publicly accepting, then publicly saying he'd quit in Dec 2017, then publicly deciding not to, then publicly announcing an extended posting "hiatus" which he announced would last for 6 weeks but which actually lasted a matter of days.

I fear anybody taking up the "job" would find Arsenal's performance impossible to follow - even a professional contortionist would struggle

[arsenal]

As I've said. Sir Lonely and Scottish Guy are obviously very similar in personality displaying characteristics common in men of that age. They're meeting for breakfast as soon as Scottish is back in Thailand.

[arsenal]

Looking at Wombles efforts in the last few days one must marvel at the irony of this thread.

[gerefan2]

It is time for a change .

Excellent timing!

[arsenal]

Not entire clear who gerefan2s comment is aimed at.

[Smiles]

Off topic: Has Scottish Guy been ousted from the board, or left stage right on his own?
If either, a very bad day for Sawatdee.

[gerefan2]

See post 11 here...
https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?19657-Useless-crap/page2

[Nirish guy]

He''s still listed as a member the last time I looked ( a while ago now) and from reading his post I understood that his intention was to simply either just not bother posting her much at all anymore or certainly reduce his postings for a while / by amount as it was just getting silly how much his posts were getting fucked around.

And after reading Arsenal's various comments re same and reading his "job done" type posts where he seems to somehow think that in him working out his PERSONAL crusade / grudge against SG in the guise of a actual moderator ( which he failed at miserably) that he was somehow doing everyone a favour by trying ( hopefully unsuccessfully) to hound SG off the board.

I'm guessing SG is away enjoying life with his boyfriend of many years now - and that's boyfriend not "boyfriend" BTW Arsenal which was another one of your pathetic digs at the guy - and so he's finding plenty to keep himself amused. But now that Arsenal has decided to stop pretending to be an actual moderator and is trying to return to just being a regular poster ( after thoroughly pissing off half the board membership on several occasions) I'm hoping that SG might pop along again and carry on posting again as lets face it there aren't THAT many of us post here anyway and the sound members who are here should be made welcome not chased away by Mods or owners.

Thankfully the board seems to carrying on "as it was" again to some degree - and LOOK - not a moderator in sight ( moderating I mean A447 as you've always been a poster more than a Mod, which is the way it SHOULD be of course) and look - not an "infraction point" to be seen anywhere ! - Imagine that eh - I dont know HOW we ever managed all these years without such NONSENSE - but thankfully we do it seems and it seems that even Moses has realised that leaving well enough alone IS the best policy - for now anyway - well lets hope.

[arsenal]

Professor NIrish presents his findings.

[Moses]

NG, who are you to say something like that:

which he failed at miserably
Are you SGT owner for to make such conclusion?

Do you understand how stupid and speculative sounds your "after thoroughly pissing off half the board membership on several occasions"? Could you please count 500 members who was "pissed off"?

[Nirish guy]

I'll happily add "in my opinion" to the forefront of that post if you wish - but I assumed that as always is taken as read when people post. As to perhaps listing "500 members !".........lol very good, that certainly made me smile :)

And one doesn't need to be the owner of SGT to form an opinion, you have yours other may have a differing opinion and we both may gauge success and failure by different measuring sticks of course, you'll have yours and others will have theirs, that doesn't make either less valid of course.

[Moses]

And one doesn't need to be the owner of SGT to form an opinion, you have yours other may have a differing opinion and we both may gauge success and failure by different measuring sticks of course, you'll have yours and others will have theirs, that doesn't make either less valid of course.

Moderation is service for forum. Only owner can give tasks to moderators and only owner can decide was task successful or not. Rest is just a speculations and assumptions.

I can write here the same as I wrote in the forum for moderators at time of "farewell" with arsenal as a moderator: "I'm very grateful to you for your service. Thank you very much for your time, for you efforts and your support of the forum".

[Nirish guy]

And that’s your opinion as a board owner which you’re fully entitled too. I as a board member would needless to say take a different view from that. As you rightly point out my view is probably irrelevant to you - just as yours is to me of course in reverse. I’ll not change your view and you’ll not change mine. One mans truth is another mans lie. That’s life I guess.

[arsenal]

This is what I wrote NIrish, back when you, Scotish Guy and I were on very friendly terms. Then the pair of decided to smash the whole fucking place up. He led but you followed him down the path. The both of you did it to yourselves.


https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?18962-Moderator

[arsenal]

It's a bit before your time and you probably won't believe me Moses but NIrish used to be everyone's favourite member. He was locked in a battle of the giants with a447 and anonone to see who could ring the most fun out of a trip to Thailand. His posts would brighten even the most miserable of rainy days with his tales of sex and bar boys and they often took on a will he/won't he as he perused a particular boy over days. That seems like a long time ago now.

[Nirish guy]

No one smashed anything up. Indeed quite the opposite as it was myself who tried ( unsuccessfully) to mediate both publicly and by PM with both yourself and SG to ask you BOTH to stop ripping each other to bits as THAT was tearing the board up. I note you stuck at that for about 10 minutes before reverting to form.

And re your previous post, all very noble intentions indeed and it’s just a pity you didn’t uphold them then. Instead of ignoring your own previously advised “retirement” date as well as the not wanting or trying to ban anyone as of course you made no secret of your wish that SG would be banned in the end, both in PM and by your actions and your “job done” statements when you thought he’d gone and your various fingers in the ears emojis and your “never apologise, never explain” type posts all just served to show your arrogance and distain for the ordinary members here who you claimed to represent, all whilst chasing your own agenda ( imho).

With regards to my posting you can try and paint me negative way you wish, it’s water off a ducks back to me. I still post normal every day posts on many and widely varying subjects, if you don’t find those as entertaining as before I can only suggest stop reading my posts then.

But if you believe you can rewrite history whilst claiming to be all sweetness and light and just working on behalf of us lowly ungrateful members whilst in effect both you ( and Moses) treated some members with a unabashed arrogance sometimes and again all whilst you were working towards your own agenda in the first place ( imho Moses) I think I think we both know the answer to that one as don’t we......

And I post this merely as both my ( and several other members who PM’d me re this - and still do) to stand along side Moses’ “you did a great job” posts. Nothing more. As I said you / he have and are entitled you your opinion and others including myself have ours - whether you like that or not Moses by the way re your “who do I think I am to have an opinion re this” indeed - as THAT is exactly the type of post I refer to in my above actually.

[arsenal]

I PMd you. You didn't reply so perhaps it was SG you implored to stop. It matters little, we are where we are. Let's just leave this here and not get involved with each other on the main forum.

[scottish-guy]

"Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated" seems an apposite quotation in these circumstances

The only one telling the truth and having any integrity in this discussion is NIrish - and I won't play Moses' game by saying that's an opinion because as far as I'm concerned it's a cast-iron fact

It's obvious nothing has changed:

Arsenal is still a pathological liar (now having the utter gall to point to previous posts, the content of which he totally failed to live up to). I'm quite convinced that even when Arsenal is drawing his last breaths his auto-lie mode will kick in and he'll be insisting he's never felt better and will be out kicking his height later that evening.

Meanwhile, Moses is still punting the line (repeated just a few posts above) that nobody's opinion is valid except his.

Depressingly, the sheep on the board say nothing and only NIrish has the balls to tell it as it is - so he is accused of " smashing the board apart" and still nobody says anything. The suggestion that anybody other than our very own Heckle & Jeckle are responsible for that, is frankly risible.

I intend to make one other post today and then I probably won't be back for while - I mean, what's the bloody point?

Oh and "for the benefit of the tape", I never told Moses I was leaving the board - I asked what the options were regarding terminating my membership IF I decided to do so

[arsenal]

You've come back for one reason only. To start one of your monthly shitfests.
:music_mini:

[Nirish guy]

I’ve just checked and I concede you are correct about not getting a PM reply from me - I did honestly believe ( know) that I say and copied and sent that and I’m annoyed it didn’t go as I did actually sit a type a v long and nice personal message at the time suggesting that you “both” stop ( I believe I may actually have posted an abridged version of that message it to the board as well as I recall a “I will if he does” type reply from SG at the time) but as I see no PM actually sent I happily stand corrected re that, never the less my intent was I’m sure clear at the time even on my board post.

And ffs Arsenal SG posts his first post in months and you instantly accuse him of only coming back for a “shit fest” - is that your answer to everything. God forbid that he might actually genuinely feel the way he did about the way he was screwed around with posts moved and deleted etc and veiled and unveiled threats of banning every hands turn.

You “could” have said “you know SG I really didn’t intend things to turn out as they did when I took up the Mods post. We may disagree about my actions but no offense was intended, let’s draw a line and glad to see you back posting” but no, his first post and all he got was “ohhh you’re only here to create a shit storm” - just great - I see some things never change.

And before you accuse ME of starting a “shitfest” too - I’m not, I’m just staring my opinion and it’s just that you and Moses don’t like that or agree with that. But it is my opinion nonetheless and as I’ve said several other members PMd me saying they felt the same, as to whether they choose to post that publicly or not is a matter for themselves and I’ve no wish to encourage that or be accused of “shitstorming”

And re your let’s leave it here etc, that’s fine by me and always was, just don’t expect me not to speak up when I read posts such as “job done” and you gloating at your “achievements”.

And by the way this entire conversation including Moses didn’t need to happen even as I was merely replying to a conversation between Smiled and Gere etc, you guys then decided to contribute to give YOUR opinion and correct my view as “how dare I” etc. You too of course could have chosen to say nothing but decided not too and wanted to have your view heard - sound familiar perhaps ?

Anyway I’m done with this conversation as it’s alk been said. I’ll leave you to pick on SG again there for a while as per the norm just it seems.

[arsenal]

No. I'm as done with this as you are.