Bye Bye Thailand

[vnman]

Ughh...

I just arrived Monday, and boy I'm disappointed. Boys town was a mess with all the construction going but that would be Ok if the gogo bars would have boys, which they don't.

lets see, Cupidol had maybe 4 boys on stage and with such a low number you might have guessed that they weren't the cram of the crop. Not my taste so moving on.

Toy Boys (hope i got the name right, first bar on the left when entering BT) had more boys but absolutely nothing that interested me. 240 for a drink.

The first bar on the right (when entering BT) had only a few boys and too big for my taste. We moved on.

So we headed over to sunnee. Nice boys didn't have many boys either. I think about 8 - 10. Don't remember the price of a drink.

Happy boys had about 10 - 12 boys and the place was packed with customers. Drinks were 99 for Thai booze and 129 for a brand drink.

I wanted to stay a couple of months but I cannot justify it. So, i bought tickets for a trip to Latin America. I'm going to Brazil, Colombia, Mexico and maybe some other countries. It's hard to not talk about the good old days when I'm here and that's so depressing. The reason that i keep coming back is because it's so familiar.

It's time to take a dive into unknown and see if there is any adventure to be had. For those of you who can still get their kicks in Thailand, good for you. For those who don't, what keeps you here?

[cdnmatt]

what keeps you here?



My husband and dogs. Plus living in a Buddhist society is simply far superior to a Western country, at least for myself.

[frequent]

My husband and dogs. Plus living in a Buddhist society is simply far superior to a Western country, at least for myself.Exactly - we have only to look at how Burma's Buddhists are treating the Rohingya to see the superiority of Buddhist societies over, say, Western countries, not to mention Thailand's failure to recognise that Matt actually has a husband (the third at least of god knows how many there will be in his dreary life). Well, so he says. He hasn't actually finalised the divorce from the first one yet.

[francois]

Ughh...

Happy boys had about 10 - 12 boys and the place was packed with customers. Drinks were 99 for Thai booze and 129 for a brand drink.



I believe you are referring to Winner Boys, not Happy Boys. There is no Happy Boys in sunee.

[vnman]

I believe you are referring to Winner Boys, not Happy Boys. There is no Happy Boys in sunee.

And right you are. The confusion comes because I remember the previous owner.

[kittyboy]

Ughh...
I wanted to stay a couple of months but I cannot justify it. So, i bought tickets for a trip to Latin America. I'm going to Brazil, Colombia, Mexico and maybe some other countries. It's hard to not talk about the good old days when I'm here and that's so depressing. The reason that i keep coming back is because it's so familiar.

It's time to take a dive into unknown and see if there is any adventure to be had. For those of you who can still get their kicks in Thailand, good for you. For those who don't, what keeps you here?

I have been going back and forth about where to retire. I have very very fond memories of being in Thailand (My first trip was in 1986!). I have friends who live in both Pattaya and BKK - those friends and yes the boys are a big draw for me.
However, I have been looking at Ecuador and some of the other South American countries.
My retirement budget is about 3500-4000 USD a month and I can live quite well in Thailand or in a South American country. But Damn..I do miss the goofy fun and easy sexuality of Thailand (yes I know I am paying for it - negotiable love on a sliding pay scale).

Latin has spoken of trips to Brazil..etc..maybe the guys there are just as sexy and available..I do not know.

[Blacktouch]

Ughh...

I just arrived Monday, and boy I'm disappointed. Boys town was a mess with all the construction going but that would be Ok if the gogo bars would have boys, which they don't.

lets see, Cupidol had maybe 4 boys on stage and with such a low number you might have guessed that they weren't the cram of the crop. Not my taste so moving on.

Toy Boys (hope i got the name right, first bar on the left when entering BT) had more boys but absolutely nothing that interested me. 240 for a drink.

The first bar on the right (when entering BT) had only a few boys and too big for my taste. We moved on.

So we headed over to sunnee. Nice boys didn't have many boys either. I think about 8 - 10. Don't remember the price of a drink.

Happy boys had about 10 - 12 boys and the place was packed with customers. Drinks were 99 for Thai booze and 129 for a brand drink.

I wanted to stay a couple of months but I cannot justify it. So, i bought tickets for a trip to Latin America. I'm going to Brazil, Colombia, Mexico and maybe some other countries. It's hard to not talk about the good old days when I'm here and that's so depressing. The reason that i keep coming back is because it's so familiar.

It's time to take a dive into unknown and see if there is any adventure to be had. For those of you who can still get their kicks in Thailand, good for you. For those who don't, what keeps you here?


Please update us on your new venture.

[latintopxxx]

If retiring in Brazil keep away from the bog cities like Sao Paulo and Rio, really expensive, western prices for everything. Best you take a look at the north east, all shapes, sizes and colours.

[frequent]

My retirement budget is about 3500-4000 USD a month and I can live quite well in Thailand or in a South American country. But Damn..I do miss the goofy fun and easy sexuality of Thailand (yes I know I am paying for it - negotiable love on a sliding pay scale).

Latin has spoken of trips to Brazil..etc..maybe the guys there are just as sexy and available..I do not know.There must be somewhere that will meet your requirements

[gerefan2]

Latin has spoken of trips to Brazil..etc..maybe the guys there are just as sexy and available..I do not know.

Make sure you are talking to the new Latin....

[Brad the Impala]

If retiring in Brazil keep away from the bog cities like Sao Paulo and Rio, really expensive, western prices for everything. Best you take a look at the north east, all shapes, sizes and colours.

Like Salvador? Can you give us some venue recommendations based on your recent experiences. May be going there in a few months.

[Davey612]

There is only one country in Latin America that I would move to, if I have to: Uruguay. Stable, market oriented. Close to Brazil and Argentina but without those big country headaches. Punta de Este is nice but a little bit more pricier than Montevideo.

However, there is nowhere in South America that is even close to the way Thailand has set its entertainment system.

And if you like Brazilian guys, may I suggest Spain? There seems to be more of them in Barcelona than Rio de Janeiro

[frequent]

There is only one country in Latin America that I would move to, if I have to: Uruguay. Stable, market oriented. Close to Brazil and Argentina but without those big country headaches. Punta de Este is nice but a little bit more pricier than Montevideo.I agree completely. Wikipedia also states that it's the most liberal for non-hetero rights in South America. It's also relatively easy to get permanent residence (https://internationalliving.com/residency-in-uruguay/) rather than the ridiculous hoops the Thais demand those who want year-to-year residence. I'd also choose it over Brazil simply because Brazil is largely Portuguese-speaking whereas all the others are Spanish-speaking (don't ever suggest to a Brazilian that they speak Spanish!)

However, there is nowhere in South America that is even close to the way Thailand has set its entertainment system.True, but is that what a full-time resident is looking for?

And if you like Brazilian guys, may I suggest Spain? I recall reading somewhere that Spain is a lot more homophobic than is apparent to tourists

There seems to be more of them in Barcelona than Rio de JaneiroMaybe that's because Rio is in Brazil, which has a Portuguese heritage?

[Davey612]

Maybe that's because Rio is in Brazil, which has a Portuguese heritage?

I meant the garotos de programa, if you know what those words mean. It feels there are more of them in Spain than in Brazil :))

[Davey612]

Like Salvador? Can you give us some venue recommendations based on your recent experiences. May be going there in a few months.

I bet Latin is suggesting Recife or Fortaleza. Salvador has one main shade of color. Haven't been there for ages, so can't suggest venues. But as what Frequent said, better learn some Portuguese. English speaking persons are few and, if you know Spanish, try Portunish. At least it shows you are trying. Speaking only in Spanish may draw blank looks even if they know what you are saying.

If you go up that area, I would definitely go to Porto das Galinhas. One of the best beaches I ever been.

[frequent]

I meant the garotos de programa, if you know what those words mean.And for those who don't, there's always Google Translate. It's called the Internet :D

[scottish-guy]

Honestly - the lengths some people will go to for a bit of cock.

SMH & LEL

[vnman]

I don't have anything to compare Thailand with. At least not with South America. Mexico, on the other hand, was a great experience. However, those were different times, when I was in my early 30s.

The age thing seems to be far less a problem in South America compared to Europe. This is only hearsay though.

I'd be happy to tell you a little about what is going on. I will only concentrate on bars, clubs, boys, and prices. Other topics that might be interesting are traveling and safety.

Not looking forward to the trip ahead of me. Connections from here to South America are not in abundance. Going via the states is also not that appealing and that makes it even harder.

[christianpfc]

I was in Pattaya on Thursday and number of boys were low, similar to OP. Nonetheless, I found what I was looking for.

[kittyboy]

Honestly - the lengths some people will go to for a bit of cock.

SMH & LEL

Too be inclusive of more tastes..it is also, ass, tight abs, lean bodies, smooth cocoa colored skin, uncut cocks, and other attributes.

[kittyboy]

I have a good friend who lives part-time in Cuenca Ecuador. She loves it. As a heterosexual woman she is not chasing young cock (or at least I don't think she is - but I may underestimate her post menopausal libido) as her boyfriends in the past have tended toward late 50s early 60s gentlemen - which is a mystery to me but I digress. She loves the food in Cuenca, the ex-pat community, the Ecuadorian people, the history, the compact city living, the music, the dancing, the markets,...etc. According to her she lives on about 1500 USD a month and "lives like a queen" - her words.
I have been talking about taking a trip to Quito to check it out..but have not found anyone who want to go with me. My friend is currently working a contract job in the USA so at present she is not available to travel back to Ecuador. Quito is at 2800 meters elevation and 50 KM from the equator - darn near perfect weather - 22-16 C year round.
I do love the guys in thailand..but I am exploring other options for retirement.

[joe552]

When looking at potential retirement destinations, how much do you consider the ease with family members could visit? It would be pretty important to me.

[cdnmatt]

When looking at potential retirement destinations, how much do you consider the ease with family members could visit? It would be pretty important to me.


It's 2018. Geographical location isn't as important as it once was. Watch a couple movies, take a shit, and you're pretty much anywhere in the world you want to be.

Now if you decide to move to space, which is starting to appear it may become a possibility within my lifetime, then that may be quite difficult. Any where on earth is quite easy though.

[francois]

When looking at potential retirement destinations, how much do you consider the ease with family members could visit? It would be pretty important to me.

Why would someone want family members to visit them?

[a447]

It would be pretty important to me.

And rather embarrassing for some, I'd imagine.

[joe552]

Why would someone want family members to visit them?

I get along very well with my family. Sorry if you don't.

[kittyboy]

When looking at potential retirement destinations, how much do you consider the ease with family members could visit? It would be pretty important to me.

I agree with Joe but I suspect Joe and I are looking for different completely opposite outcomes. Joe probably want his family to visit.I want to be as far away as possible from my family so that there is no possibility they would visit. As you might guess DNA is not a strong bond in my familial group.

[frequent]

I do love the guys in thailand..but I am exploring other options for retirement.Excellent news

[kittyboy]

Excellent news

Hmm..and why would that be excellent news? I assume it is a feeble attempt at an insult. I find it sad that you seem to need to create drama by insulting people.

[kittyboy]

I get along very well with my family. Sorry if you don't.

LOL..thanks Joe.
If you are close to your family living many time zones away apparently is not an option for you. I am happy you are close to your family.
I was in Portugal last winter - visiting my foster son (I love that boy) - and I would love to retire there but as an American it is not as easy for me to retire in Portugal as it is for Europeans.

[joe552]

My likely retirement destination is Tenerife, a 4 hour flight from Dublin. I like the sound of South America, though.

[frequent]

My likely retirement destination is Tenerife, a 4 hour flight from Dublin. I like the sound of South America, though.How often have you been there?

[joe552]

Maybe 10 times - not too sure.

[frequent]

Maybe 10 times - not too sure.Plenty of boys?

[joe552]

No unfortunately. That's one downside.

[francois]

I get along very well with my family. Sorry if you don't.

My family are all deceased. Although I doubt that any would want to come to Thailand to visit me even if alive.

[scottish-guy]

There's more to life than cock (and bum, as Kittyboy pointed out) - though you wouldn't know it from the viagra-fuelled septuagenarian sex fiends that inhabit this board

:D

[francois]

There's more to life than cock (and bum, as Kittyboy pointed out) - though you wouldn't know it from the viagra-fuelled septuagenarian sex fiends that inhabit this board

:D

What is more to life than cock or bum? Primary reason to live in or visit Thailand.

[Kenny]

Low cost of living, very handsome guys, friendly locals, stunning scenery, English widely spoken. Yes, I'm thinking of retiring to Nepal!
(But, then again, Thailand has some advantages as well :confused:)

[frequent]

What is more to life than cock or bum? Primary reason to live in or visit Thailand.ONLY reason

[kittyboy]

My likely retirement destination is Tenerife, a 4 hour flight from Dublin. I like the sound of South America, though.

I looked on numbeo the cost of living in Tenerife. It seems quite reasonable. Good luck if that is your retirement spot.

I have mentioned that I got married 2 years ago and I need to stay in the USA for another 3 years for my spouse for visa reasons. After that..we are looking at SE Asia..or someplace other than the USA. Of course plans change.

[cdnmatt]

Q
I looked on numbeo the cost of living in Tenerife. It seems quite reasonable. Good luck if that is your retirement spot.

I have mentioned that I got married 2 years ago and I need to stay in the USA for another 3 years for my spouse for visa reasons. After that..we are looking at SE Asia..or someplace other than the USA. Of course plans change.


If you don't mind me asking, what VISA reasons? Are you going to try and get him US citizenship? If so, then 5 years seems awfully fast, at least compared to Canada.

I could probably get Leo permanent residency status to Canada, but it'd be a 2 - 3 year process. Don't think I will bother, as PR status requires us to reside in Canada 2 out of every 5 years, and I can't promise we'll do that. If we don't, the PR status get voided.

Then after gaining PR status, and after residing in Canada for another 5 years, he can apply for citizenship, but that's probably another 2 year process (not sure). That means all in, we'd be looking at a 10 year process to obtain him Canadian citizenship.

[frequent]

If you don't mind me asking, what VISA reasons? Presumably it has something to do with this (https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/after-green-card-granted/conditional-permanent-residence/remove-conditions-permanent-residence-based-marriage). Really Matt, you hold yourself out as an IT guru yet you can't even conduct a simple Google search!

[kittyboy]

Q


If you don't mind me asking, what VISA reasons? Are you going to try and get him US citizenship? If so, then 5 years seems awfully fast, at least compared to Canada.



Hey - I am sure at least one of the hair splitting, fussy, quibbling,,etc. posters will point out shortcomings in my post and my ex-ante response is keep it to yourself.
He needs to be in the USA for at least 3 years to apply for US citizenship.
Or at least that is what he tells me. He has a lawyer that he consults.
We have been together almost 6 years. At this point in my life if we were not married I would retire..but..we are together..so I guess I will work another 3 years and hope he knows what he is talking about..IE..that he can get US citizenship and then we will move someplace other than the USA.
For many (not all but many) Asians...(Chinese, Thai, etc.) moving to the West and settling down is a goal. I kept telling the spouse that it is in some ways harder living in the US than in Asia. Things are not as easy as some immigrants believe. It can be a struggle to find work, find a community to belong to, things are expensive etc.
That is the logic of staying in the USA for another 3 years.

[cdnmatt]

Geez, only 3 years of residency, and you can apply for citizenship? That's quick! Not saying it's right or wrong, as I have no clue about US immigration law, but that is quick compared to most other Western nations. For example, I know if we were to start the process today, it would take a good 10 years before Leo had a Canada passport in his hands, and it'd require us to live in Canada about 6 of those years.

Anyway, all the best to the two of you, and hope Trump doesn't fuck everything up for you guys due to the immigration reform being currently debated.

[frequent]

Geez, only 3 years of residency, and you can apply for citizenship? That's quick! Not saying it's right or wrong, as I have no clue about US immigration law, but that is quick compared to most other Western nations. For example, I know if we were to start the process today, it would take a good 10 years before Leo had a Canada passport in his hands, and it'd require us to live in Canada about 6 of those years.Just because Canada is a socially backward country, Matt, that's no reason to use it as a yardstick for "most other Western nations". Of the "white Commonwealth" it's in fact the worst country in terms of length of residence. Five is the highest (New Zealand - the same as France). Only Spain seems to have a more onerous requirement during a quick review (a simple whip around via Google would have shown those figures up but as we now know that simple task is beyond you. The blindness perhaps - always a convenient excuse for you?)

[cdnmatt]

Yeah, that stupid socialist Canada that continues to get #1 or #2 on the Human Development Index every year. What a stupid country.

[kittyboy]

Geez, only 3 years of residency, and you can apply for citizenship? That's quick! Not saying it's right or wrong, as I have no clue about US immigration law, but that is quick compared to most other Western nations. For example, I know if we were to start the process today, it would take a good 10 years before Leo had a Canada passport in his hands, and it'd require us to live in Canada about 6 of those years.

Anyway, all the best to the two of you, and hope Trump doesn't fuck everything up for you guys due to the immigration reform being currently debated.

I could be wrong on the number of years. My spouse is managing the visa/citizenship process.
And yes the liar in chief of the USA and his cronies could change the US immigration rules and change our plans. As I have stated, when I retire - I go back and forth about living in SE Asian or someplace else.

[frequent]

Yeah, that stupid socialist Canada that continues to get #1 or #2 on the Human Development Index every year. What a stupid country.Matt is clearly of the school of thought that zero means "nothing" and that, therefore, "10" is actually "1 + nothing = 1"

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[cdnmatt]

Well, if you're going to debate with me, you can't use images. What does that image say?

Leo went back to Laos this morning, and the dogs aren't very good at explaining what's in an image.

[bobsaigon2]

I could be wrong on the number of years. My spouse is managing the visa/citizenship process.
And yes the liar in chief of the USA and his cronies could change the US immigration rules and change our plans. As I have stated, when I retire - I go back and forth about living in SE Asian or someplace else.

Three years is correct as indicated in the link to USCIS provided by the other poster above. If not married to a US citizen, then 5 years residence is required before applying for citizenship.

The only thing that Trump says he will maintain is the visa availability for spouse and minor children of US citizens. Everyone else will be eliminated if he succeeds in ending chain migration and the visa lottery. All part of his campaign to Make America White Again.

[frequent]

Well, if you're going to debate with me, you can't use images."debate"? I'm merely fact-checking, something you're quite capable of doing for yourself

[arsenal]

While you're in a "fact checking" mood you might like to check out these facts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9

[frequent]

While you're in a "fact checking" mood you might like to check out these facts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9Ah yes, you're referring of course to your own act of LM by holding that it was not apposite for The Queen (your Queen, by the way) to send her regular emissary to a royal funeral in Thailand

[mr giggles]

My husband and dogs. Plus living in a Buddhist society is simply far superior to a Western country, at least for myself.

Matt's the only Buddhist I know with a share portfolio and BitCoin :dash:

and yeah it's been "simple" for you

[mr giggles]

When looking at potential retirement destinations, how much do you consider the ease with family members could visit? It would be pretty important to me.

I'd only consider places where it's very difficult for the family to visit, we all get on better that way

[mr giggles]

Q


If you don't mind me asking, what VISA reasons? Are you going to try and get him US citizenship? If so, then 5 years seems awfully fast, at least compared to Canada.

I could probably get Leo permanent residency status to Canada, but it'd be a 2 - 3 year process. Don't think I will bother, as PR status requires us to reside in Canada 2 out of every 5 years, and I can't promise we'll do that. If we don't, the PR status get voided.

Then after gaining PR status, and after residing in Canada for another 5 years, he can apply for citizenship, but that's probably another 2 year process (not sure). That means all in, we'd be looking at a 10 year process to obtain him Canadian citizenship.

you really worrying about a 10 year visa process for Leo? last week your "relationship" was almost finished... get him into a western country and how do you long do you reckon before he's got another bf and kicked you to the kerb?

[arsenal]

You're not really living up to your name mr.giggles.

Read the relevant section again Frequent. Only when you understand it (fully) will you be able to move on.

[frequent]

“Read the relevant section again Frequent. Only when you understand it (fully) will you be able to move on.” Move on from rubbing your nose in your own ignorance? That’s merely a hobby, no need to “move on”. Like all hobbies I indulge in it whenever the opportunity arises

[arsenal]

If you say so.

[frequent]

If you say so.All part of your unparalleled knowledge and understanding of Thailand

[arsenal]

:cool:

[kittyboy]

Three years is correct as indicated in the link to USCIS provided by the other poster above. If not married to a US citizen, then 5 years residence is required before applying for citizenship.

The only thing that Trump says he will maintain is the visa availability for spouse and minor children of US citizens. Everyone else will be eliminated if he succeeds in ending chain migration and the visa lottery. All part of his campaign to Make America White Again.

Thanks for the confirmation. I have been deferring to the spouse and have not looked into it.
He wants to live in the US or at least have a US passport. I would prefer to have a US passport and live somewhere other than the US.

[kittyboy]

Well, if you're going to debate with me, you can't use images. What does that image say?

Leo went back to Laos this morning, and the dogs aren't very good at explaining what's in an image.

I grew up in Washington State in the US. Over the years, I took quite a few trips up to British Columbia Canada and I do like Canada.
Nice people, eh? as you say a very high HDI which represents high education levels..etc..and who could not like the Canadian national institution that is Tim Hortons..However, the weather sucks.
It is possibly the shared misery of that terrible weather that drives the Canadian national character?
I know there is worse weather around the world but for some reason I usually ran into very bad weather on my trips up north.

[cdnmatt]

Yes, we're the big friendly country. As long as you Americans provide us security via your military we'll stay that way. :)

We're obviously a little on the crazy side though. Not sure what our ancestors were thinking. "Hey, look at all that snow and ice! Come on honey and kids, let's setup our new life here!". :)

[scottish-guy]

I modify my previous statement:

There is more to life than cock, bum, and weather

[Jellybean]

I modify my previous statement:

There is more to life than cock, bum, and weather

Hmmm . . . I hope you will allow me to add one more item to your list, scottish-guy, the inclusion of which, I believe, is entirely apposite and to some, perhaps somewhat moot.

There is more to life than cock, bum, weather and posting on the Gay Thailand forums.

;)

[scottish-guy]

Since this particular forum is currently all but dead in terms of posts, it's seems that many agree with your addition even if they disagree about the cock,bum, and weather.

I guess that's what happens when prolific contributors profiles are marked "banned" and/or they seem to have been chased away because the board censors disapprove of the content or can't handle (richly deserved) criticism

[cdnmatt]

you really worrying about a 10 year visa process for Leo? last week your "relationship" was almost finished... get him into a western country and how do you long do you reckon before he's got another bf and kicked you to the kerb?


There is that potential, yep. There is also the potential he genuinely loves me, and will stick with me because he knows he'll never find someone who loves him more or treats him better than me. Regardless, I'm not going to intentionally hold him back in life out of fear he may leave him some day, because if anything, doing so will only help ensure he leaves me in the future.

Yeah, being in love like this can be scary at times, but it's worth the risk. What's the laternative? Live alone, eat crap microwaveable dinners every night, spend my time chasing down broke students and rice farmers for a cheap fuck? Who would want a life like that? Well, aside from probably 80% of the membership here, who would want a life like that?

I don't think he'll leave me though. He loves me too much, and I treat him too well, plus have raised his desire, ambitions and possibilities for this life immensely. That's not exactly something you forget. Besides, he blames himself for me going blind, so that somewhat helps too, as crude as it sounds.

[arsenal]

vnman. The only South American place I've visited is Rio. Not too much in the way of sex but I did get to play football on the Copacabana and I did score a goal. Almost as good.

[latintopxxx]

No sex in Rio..really?!?!

[frequent]

I don't think he'll leave me though. He loves me too much, and I treat him too well, plus have raised his desire, ambitions and possibilities for this life immensely. That's not exactly something you forget. Besides, he blames himself for me going blind, so that somewhat helps too, as crude as it sounds.A heady mixture of guilt and greed - the ideal basis for a successful long-term relationship

[Jellybean]

Since this particular forum is currently all but dead in terms of posts, it's seems that many agree with your addition even if they disagree about the cock,bum, and weather.

I guess that's what happens when prolific contributors profiles are marked "banned" and/or they seem to have been chased away because the board censors disapprove of the content or can't handle (richly deserved) criticism

Now, dinnae fash yersel*, as they are apt to say all too frequently on Outlander**, scottish-guy, you have bigger fish to fry than to be worrying about the posting figures on Sawatdee. After all, that’s what our stipendiary moderator, arsenal, is paid to do.

Anyway, don’t you have a visiting boyfriend to look after? Unless the wee blighter has left you high‘n’dry and been tempted across to the posh-side by you-know-who at the prospect of triangular cut cucumber & chive sandwiches and home-made scones with clotted cream and strawberry jam. Mmmm . . . yum, yum.

Heavens! Put our minds at rest and tell us it’s not true.

And, ever mindful of the beady-eye possessed by one of our most esteemed members, I speak of course of françois, I had better move on swiftly to say something on topic.

I am green with envy vnman at your decision to visit Brazil, Colombia, Mexico and some other Latin American countries. Back in the ‘90s when I had a couple of Brazilian boyfriends and knew lots of Brazilian guys through my London club going days, I received many invitations to visit Rio, São Paulo or Porto Alegre. But, to my eternal regret, I turned those invitations down, preferring, rather foolishly, to visit closer destinations with less travelling time from the UK.

And my last real boyfriend, by that I mean where no money changed hands, was in 2002, just prior to my illness, and he was from Quito in Ecuador. So I have a soft spot for Latin American guys. I hope you have a fabulous time on your travels vnman and please be sure to keep us updated by posting lots of trip reports.

*Don’t worry, don’t stress. [Source: Urban dictionary]

** Outlander is a British-American television drama series based on the historical time travel Outlander series of novels by Diana Gabaldon. Developed by Ronald D. Moore and produced by Sony Pictures Television and Left Bank Pictures for Starz, the show premiered on August 9, 2014. [Source: Wikipedia]

[joe552]

That's a great post Jellybean. Cheered me up this morning (well, a little bit). I'd booked a trip to Rio in 2008 but had to cancel when I was made redundant from my job as a hotel manager. Would have loved to go. I echo your request to vnman to keep us updated on his travels and adventures.

[scottish-guy]

....Anyway, don’t you have a visiting boyfriend to look after? Unless the wee blighter has left you high‘n’dry...

Thanks for your concern, but we are both just fine here in sunny Glasgow (9c yesterday!!)

[arsenal]

Arch subversive Jellybean is chucking silk wrapped numchuckers all over the place today. Bad bad Jellybean.
:clapping:

[a447]

I've decided to say "bye bye Thailand," at least for a few weeks and head to Myanmar and South Korea next month. I'm planning the trip around Songkran, in order to miss it completely. I'm over it.

But no trip to Asia is complete without dropping into Bangkok to top up the bank accounts of my long-term offs.

I'm also considering a week or two in Pattaya, but with BBB now a waste of time (boys on stage in street clothes)and Sunee seemingly on its last legs, Chiang Mai is also looking promising.

Any gay info on Yangon and Seoul,(posted in the appropriate forum, of course!)would be appreciated.

[scottish-guy]

Since you are allegedly top at home and bottom in Thailand - what the fuck are you doing to do in South Korea and Myanmar - put a bucket over the boy's head and swing on the handle?

:D

[Jellybean]

That's a great post Jellybean. Cheered me up this morning (well, a little bit) . . .

Well, that warms the cockles of my heart to hear that joe552. But I hope you’ll forgive me if I say, you don’t seem to be your old self since you returned from your holiday in Thailand. I wonder if you are suffering from the post-holiday blues. I know I tend to suffer from it when I return back to the UK after my winter break in Thailand.


Thanks for your concern, but we are both just fine here in sunny Glasgow (9c yesterday!!)

“Sunny Glasgow”, you say scottish-guy, well there’s an oxymoron if I ever saw one. I understand it is a metrological fact that it is always raining in Glasgow.

And good Lord, 9C in Glasgow! Blimey! No wonder the Lesser-spotted-Jellybean flies out East for the winter. Isn’t it about time you bit the bullet, abandoned the rat race, left the greasy-pole behind, took early retirement, sold that great mansion of yours and moved out to the Far East to enjoy the rest of your life in married bliss? Just a thought.


Arch subversive Jellybean is chucking silk wrapped numchuckers all over the place today. Bad bad Jellybean.
:clapping:

Crikey arsenal! Little old Jellybean an “arch subversive” you say. And here’s me thinking I was a loyal, retired servant of the Crown.

But I have this image of you, with your finger hovering over the big red ‘Banned’ button and waiting for me to over step the mark, so that you can dispatch me to the Chestnut Tree Cafe to join . . . er, em . . . perhaps I had better not name him, since he is currently an unperson, whose existence has been temporarily expunged from the Sawatdee Gay Thailand record. By the way, anybody missing him? No, me neither, but I bet scottish-guy is. :D

And what the hell is a numchucker? Despite looking on Google, I am none the wiser. Can anyone enlighten me?

[francois]

These are nunchucks and someone who uses them is a nunchucker. At least I think so.

[a447]

Since you are allegedly top at home and bottom in Thailand - what the fuck are you doing to do in South Korea and Myanmar - put a bucket over the boy's head and swing on the handle?

:D

I'm not choosey.

I'll take it any way I can get it!

[arsenal]

Yea, that's what I.meant. Them thingies.

[Jellybean]

These are nunchucks and someone who uses them is a nunchucker. At least I think so.

Ah, thank you françois. I see, from Wikipedia, Nunchaku, often "nunchuks", "chainsticks", "chuka sticks" or "karate sticks" is a traditional Okinawan martial arts weapon consisting of two sticks connected at one end by a short chain or rope.

Crikey! They look lethal and not something any self-respecting and law abiding Jellybean would ever possess, never mind throw around. Is it an expression you picked up on your Oriental travels, arsenal. I must say I have never heard of it before reading your post. Blimey! The things you learn on this forum, it's like an education, ain't it?

;)

[scottish-guy]

Not really