Is sex worth this amount of pain?

[Impulse]

Im not talkin about a broken heart.Five years ago I had a green discharge from my wanker and I didnt get it taken care of.So,after reading up on how badly things can go if you dont treat an std promptly I saw my doc today.I didnt have the bullocks to tell her I had risky sex with about 20 boys my last visit in Thailand last November,so I told her i Had "some unsafe sex".She lectured me about how dangerous What I did was and told me she had another patient that visits Thailand.I told her my concerns for maybe having chlamydia or something in my throat also. She examined me and said that she doubts I have anything since if I did there would be signs of discharge etc..I think she wanted to leave it at that and I expressed my concerns of possible cancer or unrepairable damage if I had gonnerhea.So instead of a urine sample,out comes the long stem cotton swab!! :colors: She warned it would hurt,um,she was right.It hurts urinating now.I have to wait for the results which she assures me will be negative.I asked again about the discharge from 5 years ago and if it was possible my system eliminated it on its own.She said that was possible,espescially if I drank lots of fluids.Well if you call a young thai boys cum fluid,than yes I did.So now Im waiting for the results of my urethra swab and she didnt swab my throat for anything.The more I read on the internet about getting tested and how important it is,Im disapointed with the way docs are so cavalier about what one might have.Its not their health I suppose. Im wondering out of say 25 go-go boys,how many have gonerhea,clamydia,hiv or what have you.Probably more than we think.I think its good for us to discuss the kind of healthcare we are given and compare what procedures are done and not done.When I left Thailand my first trip the clinic doc gave me about a dozen antibiotic pills and assured me that they were "good for me",like they were vitamins.

Two words to live by...safe sex. Think it, do it, live it.

Hope everything comes out for the best for you.

Safe sex is a must but it is hard to perform oral sex with a condom? The taste of latex is awful. Even the fruit-flavored condoms leave a bad taste in your mouth. The chances of catching HIV through unprotected oral sex is relatively low unless you have an open sore or bleeding gums. STD's are a much different matter. I too, think some doctors do not take some concerns seriously. Anybody know what the signs and symptoms of oral gonorrhea? How about chlamydia?

Hope everything comes out for the best for you.I do so agree, Joe

[bao-bao]

I don't go to LOS to go romping with the bar boys, myself -- just not my thing -- but I certainly don't throw stones at those who do (and do it safely). Here are two thoughts on this, for what they're worth:

1) A doctor can't treat something a patient won't tell them about. If you can't be honest enough to tell the doctor what the symptoms are/have been and how you probably got them, it makes going at all kind of silly. Try an anonymous clinic (if there are such places where you are) or 'fess up to your physician. If you're going to dance to the music (vertically or horizontally), be prepared to pay the piper. A little shaming is better than lasting damage, and from here on out, BE SAFE.

2) If AIDS, Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis and venereal warts don't spook you enough, try doing a Google for images of oral, anal or genital Herpes. THAT ought to slow you down a bit. No cure for it, and it can also be transferred to the eyes.

Again, no judgment either way on this, that's not my placeтАж but I hope you'll be "safer" in the future, for everyone's sake. I hope everything turns out negative and clear for you so you have a chance to start over fresh. Good luck!

A doctor can't treat something a patient won't tell them aboutI'm wondering if we have any doctors who would care to comment about this. On the surface it seems to be complete tosh - isn't that what blood tests, x-rays and cat scans are for? Various ailments come to light during an annual check-up and the patient may simply be unaware they have, for example, high blood pressure or diabetes - or HIV

I am not going to judge anyone for having unsafe sex as we can all fall into that little trap, especially after a night in the bar and when the passions rise.

Chlamydia is the most common sexually transmitted infection, closely followed by gonorrhoea. The signs of oral infections are just a sore throat, there may be a whitish discharge and a particularly odd taste in your mouth. With a severe infection the discomfort may make it difficult to swallow.

The good news is that chlamydia can be easily treated and cured with antibiotics. A single dose of azithromycin or a week of doxycycline (twice daily) are the most commonly used treatments. Treatment options for HIV-positive people who have a chlamydial infection are the same as for HIV negative people. BUT REMEMBER if you are taking the weekly course of doxycycline the course HAS to be completed.

You should not have sex until the тАШall clearтАЩ and if you have a regular partner then he should be tested and treated also, because the chance of re-infection is extremely high.

Chlamydia can be picked up not just from oral sex but also from the groin - it loves wet and warm places (but donтАЩt we all) тАУ and from kissing someone who has an oral dose.

The only way to avoid infection is to abstain from sexual contact of any kind. But this is impossible, right? So be careful, oral sex with a condom is as good a protection as is possible, but if you donтАЩt like it then get to know the guy and his sexual history: yeah, yeah I know, itтАЩs impossible with some people we meet in a bar.

Any genital symptoms such as discharge or burning during urination or unusual sore or rash should be a signal to stop having sex and to seek the help of an STI clinic (if your countries have such things) or an infectious diseases specialist or a dermatologist IMMEDIATELY.

If you have been treated for chlamydia (or any other STD), you really should notify all recent sex partners so they can be treated. This will reduce the risk that the sex partners will develop serious complications from chlamydia and will also reduce your and his risk of becoming re-infected.

All of sex partners must avoid sex until they have completed their treatment for chlamydia.

And as for not telling you doctor the truth that is just plain silly, itтАЩs like having cancer for five years and hiding the symptoms from the doc, how on earth do you expect to get proper treatment and a cure.

There are many good health information sites on the Internet, look them up but be sure that they are credible and accurate. The best sites to go to are from medical schools, health care charities or government health information sites.

[UncleSam]

"I'm wondering if we have any doctors who would care to comment about this. On the surface it seems to be complete tosh - isn't that what blood tests, x-rays and cat scans are for? "

Talk about tosh, the patient history is usually most vital prerequisite to a correct diagnosis.

"I'm wondering if we have any doctors who would care to comment about this. On the surface it seems to be complete tosh - isn't that what blood tests, x-rays and cat scans are for? "

Talk about tosh, the patient history is usually most vital prerequisite to a correct diagnosis.

Absolutely correct, an MRI, CT scan, ordinary x-rays or the other countless electronic wizardry of modern medicine will not help diagnose chlamydia, gon, syphilis, or HIV for that matter. Sitting with a patient and taking a sexual history then the culture and sensitivity tests are the only things that will lead to a firm diagnosis.

In other words there is no substitute for a listening ear, a long swab and a petri dish.

Absolutely correct, an MRI, CT scan, ordinary x-rays or the other countless electronic wizardry of modern medicine will not help diagnose chlamydia, gon, syphilis, or HIV for that matterHow strange. My cousin didn't know he had syphillis until it was picked up in a routine blood test. Maybe if his doctor had listened more sympathetically?

Well good for him he must have suspected or he is very old as routine syphilis tests are not performed any longer (well not on males anyway). There are many tests to determine the presence of Treponema pallidum blood and other body fluids, but none of them involve scans or x-rays. Swabbing the chancre yes, taking blood yes, sampling spinal fluid yes. CT scans, MRI scans, PET scans, x-rays - NO

Well good for him he must have suspected or he is very old as routine syphilis tests are not performed any longer (well not on males anyway)Really? In which country are you a medical person? I've had annual check-ups in several countries over the past few years and they all, invariably, check for syphillis - I can see it in the results even though I didn't ask for it. I only ever get asked if I want to be checked for HIV, nothing else is ever optional. I would expect a competent medical practitioner to do no less

What you appear to be suggesting is that the patient should disclose voluntarily only what s/he wishes and the doctor is not entitled to make any further tests on his own initiative, based on his professional skill and judgement? Does Type 2 diabetes also come under this peculiar ethic?

Well good for him he must have suspected or he is very old as routine syphilis tests are not performed any longer (well not on males anyway)Really? In which country are you a medical person? I've had annual check-ups in several countries over the past few years and they all, invariably, check for syphillis - I can see it in the results even though I didn't ask for it. I only ever get asked if I want to be checked for HIV, nothing else is ever optional. I would expect a competent medical practitioner to do no less

What you appear to be suggesting is that the patient should disclose voluntarily only what s/he wishes and the doctor is not entitled to make any further tests on his own initiative, based on his professional skill and judgement? Does Type 2 diabetes also come under this peculiar ethic?

To be fair, Homi, one look at you and syphilis would probably be the first thing any doctor worth half his salt would check...

To be fair, Homi, one look at you and syphilis would probably be the first thing any doctor worth half his salt would check...Absolutely spot on, boygeenyus, and precisely my point. We pay doctors to exercise professional skill and judgement, not rely on what every tosser who comes to them decides he wants to tell, and act only on that information

[UncleSam]

You are full of it, Colonel . . . . . and I don't mean medical knowledge.

[Aunty]

Doctors are doctors, not mind readers and soothsayers!

If patients don't disclose all relevant matters to their doctor and there are no presenting symptoms that the patient brings to the doctor's attention or that are obvious, there is no reason why a doctor should have unnecessary and potentially irrelevant medical tests performed on his/her patient. I mean what is he/she supposed to be looking for if you go to your doctor with a sprained ankle? Clap of the throat? Anal warts??? Growths on your nads?? Get real!

While a good doctor who perhaps hasn't seen you for a while might ask some basic age appropriate questions about your health and hone in on any areas of concern, and check things like blood pressure, and depending on your age and weight recommend a blood test for things like sugar levels, cholesterol etc., these are just basic standard things to do. They are not going to go on a fishing expedition without a reason to.

Without the informed consent of the patient, performing unauthorised medical tests would be a breach of medical ethics and patient privacy. Moreover if they were to do that it would simply bankrupt already financially troubled and constrained health care budgets and health care systems. It's your body, not your doctors! You take responsibility for it.

When you go to the doctor you should generally get what you ask for, your presenting condition investigated, diagnosed and explained to you, prognosis, treatment, treatment options or referral to a specialist or hospital. As a rule of thumb the more you can accurately convey to your doctor the better the job they will do for you, unless they are incompetent.

God save us from British medical ethics!

While a good doctor who perhaps hasn't seen you for a while might ask some basic age appropriate questions about your health and hone in on any areas of concern, and check things like blood pressure, and depending on your age and weight recommend a blood test for things like sugar levels, cholesterol etc., these are just basic standard things to do. They are not going to go on a fishing expedition without a reason toIf I'm paying for an annual check up I expect them to find out everything they possibly can. The only things that are optional are a CAT scan and random x-rays. I'd expect them to hone their knowledge and skills and home in on any areas of concern, but perhaps "to hone in" is a new verb in the Dickshunary of New Zlnd Unglsh?

While a good doctor who perhaps hasn't seen you for a while might ask some basic age appropriate questions about your health and hone in on any areas of concern, and check things like blood pressure, and depending on your age and weight recommend a blood test for things like sugar levels, cholesterol etc., these are just basic standard things to do. They are not going to go on a fishing expedition without a reason toIf I'm paying for an annual check up I expect them to find out everything they possibly can. The only things that are optional are a CAT scan and random x-rays. I'd expect them to hone their knowledge and skills and home in on any areas of concern, but perhaps "to hone in" is a new verb in the Dickshunary of New Zlnd Unglsh?

Why perform a CAT scan, Homi? Are you expecting to find a litter of kittens in there somewhere?

He's baaaaack!

... is that they don't allow Internet access if you're locked up in an Australian prison

We've come a long way from oral Chlamydia. Next time Homi visits a medical practitioner may I suggest he sees a vet. As these people are really clever, they can diagnose without the need to speak to the patient, just by examining the eyes, ears, nose, mouth, hair/fur, skin, anal glands, smelling the breath, and taking a few (not many) blood tests. Now that is clever.

No verbal information passess between patient and vet and the patient's friend may be just as mute as Homi is with his doc, expecting them to feel his nose, determine the investigations by a cursory exmaintion of his eyes and coat, and make a diagnosis. These vets really are clever people.

[Aunty]

but perhaps "to hone in" is a new verb in the Dickshunary of New Zlnd Unglsh?

You know you really are one of the most stupid individuals I have ever come across on a forum board, ever. No wonder you are a pauper living in the third world! You can't cut it in Britan eh?

Look at your key board dumbass. What is the letter N right next to?? And what is that telling you? In your case probably nothing becuase you are simply that pathetic. Back on to ignore with u.

[Surfcrest]

.Five years ago I had a green discharge from my wanker and I didnt get it taken care of.So,after reading up on how badly things can go if you dont treat an std promptly I saw my doc today.I didnt have the bullocks to tell her I had risky sex with about 20 boys my last visit in Thailand last November,so I told her i Had "some unsafe sex".

.....and so you quit having unprotected sex so not to spread this green discharge to the unsuspecting?
Or you knowingly continued on, infecting people that may / may not have the resources or the common sense to check and treat themselves? Perhaps more concern should be extended to the "20 boys my last visit in Thailand last November" and to whom became infected and may still be suffering and infecting other unsuspecting partners.

Surfcrest

I always use condoms when i suck cocks (don't mind latex taste). But when I get sucked, it is up to the boys if they want me put condoms on(they usually don't). I think I am safe, am I?

I always use condoms when i suck cocks (don't mind latex taste). But when I get sucked, it is up to the boys if they want me put condoms on(they usually don't). I think I am safe, am I?
If you get sucked without condoms, it is highly unlikely to get HIV that way. However, there is a long list of things you could get, including, syphilis and the clap. Enjoy!

I know, I know, everybody does it .. that must mean it is safe. Oh yeah.

100% safe? Well, no. Nothing is.

"Safe enough"?

Up to you.

[Impulse]

Let me respond to these post.When I returned from Thailand last November I told my doc I had unsafe oral with a boy who had aids,Does that make it clear enough?He gave me an hiv and hep a,b and c test.I think he should have done a full std panel based on the info i gave him.He acted like he was trying to save the health insurance company money on test.Ok negative results for hiv,and hep c,positive antibodies for hep a and c.I called for the results and thats what I got,no follow up. I schedualed another apointment for a syphilus test which was negative,and finally i requested a ghonerea,cylimidia test.I told them I go t Thailand and im gay so what more can i tell them?Im waiting for the gonherea results but imm disapointed that my throat was not cultured as that is an area that could be infected.Maybe ill go to a clinic nearby or the hospital in Pattaya for more followup.And surfcrest,i wasnt aware i was infected as I value my health as much as the thai guys so i wasnt jeaordising their health.If i knew I had a disease i would not want to infect someone else.

[Bob]

Next time Homi visits a medical practitioner may I suggest he sees a vet. As these people are really clever, they can diagnose without the need to speak to the patient, just by examining the eyes, ears, nose, mouth, hair/fur, skin, anal glands, smelling the breath, and taking a few (not many) blood tests.

Ah, come on, let's draw the line somewhere! It's dinner time here in the rural (read "hick") midwest and I don't even want to know that Homi has anal glands....... :geek:

[Impulse]

You guys are being too hard on Homintern,In an annual physical a doctor should be on the lookout for high cholesterol,high bp,etc.Mind you std's would not be of concern to him unless you brought it up,but in my case the whole appointment was about unsafe sex with a male prostitute,enuf said I believe.most inteligent people know what to bring to the doctors attention,but many people(in the U.S.A, those who voted for doofus)are not inteligent and have no clue what to ask.A doctor needs to ask probing questions about alcohol,smoking,even sex.I find too many docs here in such a hurry,though i realize that they have too many patients and they have an axe to grind with their pay and all the lost time of their studies while most of their patients were probably whoring around. Charlie,you seem to be very knowlegable on this subject.I took about 4 days worth of Azythromax(spelling),for a sinus infection,maybe this cleared up any chlamydia I might have had?

[Surfcrest]

surfcrest,i wasnt aware i was infected as I value my health as much as the thai guys so i wasnt jeaordising their health.If i knew I had a disease i would not want to infect someone else.

And so the "green discharge from your wanker" didn't make you somewhat aware?


In an annual physical a doctor should be on the lookout for high cholesterol,high bp,etc.Mind you std's would not be of concern to him unless you brought it up,but in my case the whole appointment was about unsafe sex with a male prostitute,enuf said I believe.most inteligent people know what to bring to the doctors attention,but many people(in the U.S.A, those who voted for doofus)are not inteligent and have no clue what to ask.A doctor needs to ask probing questions about alcohol,smoking,even sex.

Probing questions?

If you're not telling your doctor what you are up to sexually, you are only cheating your own diagnosis. It's not up to your doctor to ask probing questions, its up to you.

Surfcrest

You know you really are one of the most stupid individuals I have ever come across on a forum board, ever. No wonder you are a pauper living in the third world! You can't cut it in Britan eh?

Look at your key board dumbass. What is the letter N right next to?? And what is that telling you? In your case probably nothing becuase you are simply that pathetic. Back on to ignore with u.Thank god! I was afraid it had made it into "Nuclear physics for the under fives", where, doubtless, not only do they mistype but also leave letters out from the names of countries and elsewhere - as in the phrase "Nw Zlnd is a very small cuntry" - and then show a complete disdain for their readers by failing to proof-read

However, don't feel you have to hold back, Aunty. If you think I'm a cunt, just say so


Next time Homi visits a medical practitioner may I suggest he sees a vetIn my view there is only one difference between a vet and doctor, apart from vets specializing in animal medicine and doctors specializing in human medicine. Vets are more humane. They will put down an animal that has a terminal illness or other incurable state rather than let them suffer and then witter on about the quality of palliative care