The Venue V Ambiance?

[poshglasgow]

Despite having visited Pattaya for many years, I have never visited Jomtien Complex in the evening. I have read some excellent reports of the hosts who frequent the bars there. As some members have pointed out, however, you cannot 'inspect the goods' as easily as you can in a go-go bar. That may be a problem.

I like the convenience of staying in the Ambiance, and the buzz, but there are few facilities to entice you to spend any time in the Ambiance other than to sleep. The rooms are a tad dreary and dark. The Venue, on the other hand, seems to be a brighter, more vibrant place. My fear is that, being a creature of habit, I will book into Venue and almost immediately regret is, unless, of course, I find Jomtien Complex full of twinky opportunities! Has anyone been faced with a similar choice? How did it work out? Did the Complex live up to your expectations? How do drink prices in the host bars compare with the go-go bars of BT and Sunee? Thanks.

[francois]

The host bars in Jomtien Complex average about 110 Baht which is similar to Sunee host bars. Host bars in Boyztown are in 150 Baht range. In Sunee the prices in the go go bars range from 100 to 180 Baht. In Boyztown the go go bar prices are about 180 Baht and up.

[scottish-guy]

We (about four of us) were thinking along the same lines several years ago and took a look at the rooms at The Venue in anticipation of staying there next trip, but we ultimately decided against it because we preferred the greater variety of nightlife, bars etc in BT and Sunee at that time.

It's something I (the other 3 are dead now!) would at least reconsider for my next trip, because I'm hearing that Jomtien now has more to offer than before.

[joe552]

Minimee, Minimee, wake up. Scottish-guy is posting about Thailand again.

[Moses]

If I will choose btw Ambiance and Venue then I will choose... Agate... it is just in 100 meters from Venue, but it isn't in the middle of the noise...

[Mancs]

I stayed in a room at the Venue a few weeks ago. It was fine as a basic room at a low price with helpful staff.

[poshglasgow]

Many thanks for the help, gents. I will eventually make up my mind but I sense I'll stay with what is most familiar: BT.

[latintopxxx]

geee....some people are so adventurous...

[joe552]

Well, latink, I'm staying in a different apartment block this time. Is that ok?

[scottish-guy]

PoshGlasgow is flying over 12000 miles there and back - that's adventurous enough!

[joe552]

Seriously though, who puts posh and Glasgow in the same sentence?

[Nirish guy]

You obviously haven't been in Glasgow in a while joe, there's quality shops etc there that would put many other majors UK cities to shame now.

But getting back on track- Moses - you mentioned staying at the Agate etc, did I not read somewhere ( probably on here) that Agate could / should no longer be considered a "gay" hotel ( that's not to say it's still not gay friendly though I guess)?

[joe552]

Never been to Glasow, though I have a niece who lives there. I'm just basing my opinion on our own Scottish-guy.

[frequent]

Never been to Glasow, though I have a niece who lives there. I'm just basing my opinion on our own Scottish-guy.How apposite

[Moses]

But getting back on track- Moses - you mentioned staying at the Agate etc, did I not read somewhere ( probably on here) that Agate could / should no longer be considered a "gay" hotel ( that's not to say it's still not gay friendly though I guess)?

I can tell you even more: Agate never been gay hotel. You messed it with Zing resort (next building) - it was gay hotel Gaynimede and has been re-branded to Zing

[Nirish guy]

I can tell you even more: Agate never been gay hotel. You messed it with Zing resort (next building) - it was gay hotel Gaynimede and has been re-branded to Zing

Ahh I see, just gay friendly then, ok. ( as I said not that it makes much difference to a mixed hotel in Jomtien I'm sure anyway)

[joe552]

What's with the plague of the word apposite recently? Give it a rest, ffs.

[latintopxxx]

ambiamce is fine if u like boyztown/sunee...and want to drag MB back to your room...during the day the immediate neighbourhood has that slum look about it ..and local beach is a shit hole..literally speaking.
I prefer to stay on jomtien beach front..preferably short stroll to the gay dongtan beach...still has that holiday sea side feel about it...and just baht bus into pattaya...and via grindr lotsa arse available..

[a447]

The Ambiance is good enough for a short stay. Get a room at the back, as it's quieter.

I always ask for a room on the first floor because the hotel is a fire-trap. If a fire were to break out and you were on an upper floor, you'd never escape in the dark, as it's a bit of a maze.

[arsenal]

Dunno why any of you wanna stay in a gay ghetto. Jomtien has been the buzziest gay area for about 3/4 years now so it's well known to regular visitors.

[Oliver]

It's simple. One of the attractions for me in 1995 was precisely that. For the first time in my life I felt at home among like-minded people....not "friends" but passers-by and temporary neighbours who shared my interests. Straights have enjoyed that sense of belonging all their lives; it was new to me.
Furthermore, in those days, the ages and even the backgrounds of many of the falangs reflected mine. I met some who, like me, had lived closeted, straight lives and at a late stage of our lives had discovered a sense of freedom.
I'm sorry if this sounds pretentious but for me, and for others, Boyztown opened a new and welcome chapter in our lives, the opportunity to be in a place for people like us.

[Moses]

Boyztown opened a new and welcome chapter in our lives, the opportunity to be in a place for people like us.

now it is just big overpriced circus, zoo and money trap for hordes of Chinese touristic groups

[bkkguy]

What's with the plague of the word apposite recently? Give it a rest, ffs.

I am sure even the University of Edinburgh's most famous lexicographic graduate would agree even though the use of the term here has been appropriate, pertinent, relevant, apt, applicable, suitable, germane and fitting

bkkguy

[poshglasgow]

A lovely post, Oliver, and one that will touch a sympathetic nerve, for, many of us have endured a similar course through life.

[poshglasgow]

I am sure even the University of Edinburgh's most famous lexicographic graduate would agree even though the use of the term here has been appropriate, pertinent, relevant, apt, applicable, suitable, germane and fitting

bkkguy

Almost as fashionable as interviewees beginning a response to a question with the word "so..." Am I alone in noticing how dreadfully irritating it has become? Another one is when people in, for example, coffee shops beginning their order with, "Can I get......" Instead of "May I have...."

I'm being pedantic so I'll shut up now.

[bkkguy]

Almost as fashionable as interviewees beginning a response to a question with the word "so..." Am I alone in noticing how dreadfully irritating it has become?

So this usage is defended by some linguists (cunning or otherwise) as trying to show an interest in, or respect for, the question, questioner or topic but others deride it as a marker prefacing a carefully crafted, perhaps "dumbed down", perhaps not 100% accurate or acceptable, or just well rehearsed, response that the speaker may not be 100% comfortable with

I listen to a lot of podcasts, usually including interviews, and like you I find this most annoying!

I am however rarely doing this listening at either The Venue or Ambiance so the moderators should feel free to split this discussion into another thread in a more relevant area!

bkkguy

[poshglasgow]

Finally made a decision and have settled for the Venue. I've never stayed on Jomtien, despite the fact that I have been visiting Thailand for 24 years. I am hoping the Jomtien Complex proves a fun place. I've heard that there is a fine bar, with attractive staff, in the complex operated by a very friendly fellow Scotsman. Not sure what the name of the bar is though.

[scottish-guy]

It may, and if not certainly should be called See You Jimmy's - but maybe that will have to wait until I open up my place.

There's a history of Scottish Jimmys in Pattaya but the most famous one is more Danny La Rue than Russ Abbot.

And that's a compliment btw

:p

[poshglasgow]

Le me know when you open your place!!

[gerefan2]

Why not call it The Tartan Chairs?

[scottish-guy]

Well it could only be tartan cushions really

:D

[newalaan2]

Finally made a decision and have settled for the Venue. I've never stayed on Jomtien, despite the fact that I have been visiting Thailand for 24 years. I am hoping the Jomtien Complex proves a fun place. I've heard that there is a fine bar, with attractive staff, in the complex operated by a very friendly fellow Scotsman. Not sure what the name of the bar is though.

Over the last few years I have taken to starting Thailand visits in Jomtien, it's usually just a few days but I really enjoy the atmosphere around the Complex. Later during the trip we come back to Pattaya again and stay at Mosaik in South Pattaya, so I do find enjoyment in both areas. I think the bar you refer to in the Complex might be @Home bar which I believe has expanded recently.

[RonanTheBarbarian]

Well, a I am planning, in my January trip, to spend three days in the Ambience, followed by three days in the Venue, I guess I will be well placed to prove a comparison review after my trip.


Which I will do if I can remember this thread.

[joe552]

Well Ronan, after our meeting last night, I have full confidence in your ability to give a good report.

[poshglasgow]

Over the last few years I have taken to starting Thailand visits in Jomtien, it's usually just a few days but I really enjoy the atmosphere around the Complex. Later during the trip we come back to Pattaya again and stay at Mosaik in South Pattaya, so I do find enjoyment in both areas. I think the bar you refer to in the Complex might be @Home bar which I believe has expanded recently.

Yes, indeed, it is the Home Bar. Many thanks. The boys in the pics on their website wearing kilts confirmed it. I think I'm right in saying that the owner has opened a bar in Siem Reap. I will certainly pay i the Home Bar a visit at Christmas.