what does it cost for a thai companion for a day or a week?

I know that yyou must pay on "off fee" to take a thai guy out of a bar but what do they normally expect if you want their company for a day or more?

I know that yyou must pay on "off fee" to take a thai guy out of a bar but what do they normally expect if you want their company for a day or more?

Hey ! You sound like Baziel .


what do they normally expect if you want their company

It depends on your flavor, vanilla or banana , but they normally expect more as you want ! :bigsmurf:

Yes, you still owe the off fee. You can try to negotiate a bulk rate, but good luck on that.
The tip should be negotiated. For example, if for a week, it could go as low as 1000 per day (very low) to 2,000 per day (or more) PLUS all expenses and some shopping.

[Dboy]

I'd say to be careful. If you keep things on a daily basis you might get better performance:-)
Dboy

Definitely negotiate the off fee. You can get a substantial reduction the more days you off a boy.

The daily rate you will pay your friend depends on many factors, i.e. how much he likes you, the lenght of the off, how you treat him, gifts etc. Just remember, he basically lives off the tips not the "salary" the bar provides.

Super Stars can get offed almost every night, and most are just short time. A less popular lad may jump at a long time off for a couple days or more.

[catawampuscat]

how much to tip usually starts up a battle between the ex-pats who are exasperated by the big tipping tourists and the
fully employed in a first world country tourists who think the ex-pats are tight wads and exploiters..of course, this is a generalization

If you are financially comfortable and the boy gives you great service, be a sport and tip generously.. If you are living on a pension
and not happy with the boy then it is a different situation..

You might be surprised at the stories of farangs who keep a boy for a week or more, buy them expensive dinners, clothes, trinkets, airline tickets
and expensive hotels, and then
stiff the boy at the end, thinking they have spend a lot of money already..

Reality is the expensive farang restaurants, the designer clothing, hotel stays are for the farang's comfort and pleasure.. The boy only cares about
the money be it in cash, gold, mobile phone or anything that can be sold or pawned while the farang is stilling waving from the back of the taxi...

Among the worst of the farangs are the ones who brag about how they take advantage and /or cheat the boys..The ones who lie about sending
them money from overseas and rescuing them from the world of barboys are also pitiful and one of the reasons the boys think that all farangs lie
and do their best to maximize their earnings while the farang is present...

I always suspect those who boast, especially on message boards, about how generously they tip or how much they send--And quote--whatever--sum--inflate the figure by 100 to 300 percent. When one does this in person, observe the look on his face. "And the farmer hauled another load away..."

I became friends with a very nice lady who had an internet shop. She translated messages for several Boystown boys and helped them write replies. She didn't embellish as many (The 'sob-sisters') do; just wrote as she was asked. She often showed me the messages, the sweet and the outrageous; nothing underhanded her English was not that much better than the boys and she needed help. Perhaps not in other--The sob-sister shops--but in her shop Farang Water Buffalo Stories beat Thai hands down. One message had her especially perplexed: The man who sent a brief e-mail telling Bhoyhe wouldn't hear from him again because he was dying of cancer.
--I happened to know Bhoy (Real chu-len.) & the farang, BTW, and knew, from my special num, who was working same place, Bhoy had high hopes and, 'liked farang mahk-mahk...jing jai'--
She asked me, "What...I tell Bhoy?"
I said, "Just tell him farang said he will not be coming back to Thailand...and said bye-bye."

Make up your mind before you leave home. If you know you don't want to be involved, do not give an address or phone number. If you aren't sure; get his address and decide, back home, after a cool-down period, if you want to go on with it. If for no better reason; so he doesn't waste his money.

Make up your mind before you leave home. If you know you don't want to be involved, do not give an address or phone number. If you aren't sure; get his address and decide, back home, after a cool-down period, if you want to go on with it. If for no better reason; so he doesn't waste his money.

Bear repeating...again and again and again...

""but in her shop Farang Water Buffalo Stories beat Thai hands down.""..

I haven't yet heard of a Farang buffalo that has beaten a Thai although In "Thailand Confidential " by Jerry Hopkins there is a cute story about his Thai wife's gay buffallo name Tooey ( after Katooey ) who she was brought up with and how devastated she was when it did actually die. She never sent letters for money though to anyone.

Apparently they can tell if a buffallo is gay by the way it's horns are shaped ( only in Thailand of course) .

"Bear repeating...again and again and again..."..not a pleasant thought..a repeating bear !

[bing]

Many moons ago Traveler Jim mentioned when he wanted to show his care and concern for a Thai friend he would take them to the dentist. It is true the young man can't trade it in later, but, for sure, he will remember you. Since then, if I have had two friends that I have taken to the dentist. On the other hand I sort of like shopping with a Thai friend, especially in the Royal Garden. Checking out nice underwear is fun in the purchasing and in the modeling of it later. Also as you are packing bring some paperback books that you have read in the past few months in you luggage and drop off at Thais4Life along with Levi blue jeans size 29 waist 30 length. They magically fit just about every one you will meet. A thought for the occasional visitor, bring enough cash so that you can treat it like monopoly money, you can save again when you return home. If you err, do it on the side of being copiously abundance.

I have offed a boy for a month and am paying him 30,000 baht. He goes off almost every day when working at My Way, but he agreed to this price right away with no hesitation. I also pay for all of his meals and incidental expenses.

His incidentals run about 500bt every day, and I prefer to just give it to him as pocket money every couple of days, so he is not always asking me for small money. His incidentals include copious amounts of iced green tea, five to eight newpapers and magazines each day, loads of skin care products, snacks from 7-11, laundry, movies and lunches with friends, a great number of rental videos each week, an occasional CD, small loans to friends, cheap clothes from the night market vendors (mostly socks as he will only wear a pair twice before throwing them out), and hair cuts and setting his hair.

It also cost a bit to feed him, as even when we eat Thai style, we still seem to order at least eight dishes for the two of us. He also greatly prefers seafood and loves prawns. It is rare I get away for less than 1,000 baht for most dinners.

I also pay for all entertainment expenses although this boy doesn't like to drink, smoke, or do drugs of any sort. He prefers staying home watching videos to going to bars. He does like karaoke a couple of times each week, and he greatly enjoys when we take off a boy together which we do a couple of times a week as well (we like the same types, and he makes very sure the sex involves all three of us as he likes having sex with the other boy as well--he probably wishes I would leave the two of them alone, but he makes sure I am involved nonetheless, sweet boy that he is).

We've gone shopping only a couple of times in the mall, and he doesn't ask for much in the way of clothes and accessories (a pair of shoes, a back pack, a couple of shirts). He does love Boots though and loads up the basket with skin care and hygiene products. I will also buy him a mobile at some point as his was stolen before he met me (hmmm).

So, in a month, I will end up spending nearly 60,000 baht on the boy (not including the off fee). It is worth the price to me because he saves me from the chase every night in the bars (and big bar tabs); I greatly enjoy his company as he is very good natured (in three weeks not a single cross word between us although we spend a great deal of time together alone in my room as I am working), he speaks English very well, and he has a University degree; the sex we have with other boys is mind-blowingly good; and he is great eye candy. Plus, he is very jai dee.

So, there is one experience of what it cost for a longer time off and if it is worth it.

pete - how do you go about selecting the 3rd party for fun with your BS?

Purely on looks or other criteria? Ever get one back who wasn`t any good in the sack at all?

Sounds like you got yourself a FAIR DICKUM deal, mate! Good on you.

Well 30000 bth is about 623 Euro, if i am living in Thailand I would be very happy if you offer me and you are good looking, handsome and slim. :-)
Joking but seroius, I know people working in reception of hotels earning 7-8000 bth a month, but okay they dont sell their body and soul

This was for a so called "star" boy. I think it is reasonable and he sounds like a fun guy who delivers on promise. Not that easy to find.

Oogleman,

We both agree on the boy beforehand. We both like smaller boys with cute smiles, and my BS likes boys with smooth, light skin (no tatoos). He made a rule that we can only take a boy one time--no repeats (works for me). We also tend to pick gay boys, but definitely not fem boys (the BS doesn't like those).

It is not always easy as many boys don't like three ways. However, my boy is small and cute as a button, so that helps. The boy sits between us, and right away my boy will put his arm around him and lean over and nuzzle his ear, so the boy knows what is up. We make it rather obvious that we both want to have sex with the boy. Plus, my BS is very good natured, so he talks and jokes with the boy from the start and really puts him at ease.

It is really fun to watch two hot Thai guys enjoy having sex together. MY BS is a true professional, so he makes sure I am fully involved. It is a real treat for my BS, and from all I've seen a good time for the other boy as well. I also think it makes the sex we have alone better as well. By watching him with other boys (when HE is the customer), I get a good sense for what my boy really likes and doesn't like, and he appreciates me trying to push all the right buttons.

If you can get your BS to agree to be a full participant in such fun, I highly recommend it.

[dab69]

you might find that even after paying the fees and the off tips, you may still want to give him a larger amount the last night, say 10-12000 bT, which would surely change his life for a wHiLe, and make him veRy happy

it isn't so much to you, but the world to him, and you like him, right?
for his safety and security and happiness


was sick a few days my last trip (saved a fortune) and,
going to the bar to explain my absense my last night,
he had gotten my illness.
I could not leave the generous tip I had planned on.
i felt sO bad, and of course not leave the tip with anyone else

Hope he is still there next year,
or happily at home again

[bao-bao]

This is my first posting to the group, so hello, everyone.

IтАЩve had the luxury of some free time the past few days, reading a lot of past posts and still am only half-way through them. I hope to be able to add another voice here every so often.

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OK. I expect to be trashed for this, but I think you just give CASH and it is up to the sex worker to spend as he pleases. It is downright COLONIAL to pay for a dentist rather than a cellphone. If the guy has the CASH, he is an adult, not a toy, and he can learn to make ADULT decisions about what to spend his money on. True, it will probably be the cell phone, so that is what he has decided he wants more. Who are we to decide for them differently? Are we their FATHERS? No! Are we their colonial western overseers that know better than them what the natives need? NO!

OK. I expect to be trashed for this, but I think you just give CASH and it is up to the sex worker to spend as he pleases. It is downright COLONIAL to pay for a dentist rather than a cellphone. If the guy has the CASH, he is an adult, not a toy, and he can learn to make ADULT decisions about what to spend his money on. True, it will probably be the cell phone, so that is what he has decided he wants more. Who are we to decide for them differently? Are we their FATHERS? No! Are we their colonial western overseers that know better than them what the natives need? NO!

Can see where your coming from- but my experience with Thais drinking & gambling it all away makes me want to give it another way sometimes.

[bao-bao]

We aren't the finance police, I agree. I would hope with an "off" that would be more than a day or three that a farang would get to know the boy a bit and be able to decide on something constructive that could be done for him, instead of (or in addition to) the various gifts we like to make our friends happy with. Nothing wrong at ALL with only cash, but giving the boys credit as adults they may send the money home or blow it thanks to peer pressure instead of taking care of something practical they themselves may want or need. Just a thought. Your point is valid, also, and I'd guess all of these instances would be as varied as the people involved.

[PeterUK]

Welcome to the board, bao-bao. I liked your level-headed and humane first post. I'm afraid that if you hang around you will have to get used to the cynicism, but, don't worry, it doesn't have to be contagious.

I sincerely think consumers of prostitute services get into trouble taking on the role of SOCIAL WORKERS.

I'm speechless... Pete, for the kind of money you're laying out on that one boy, you could have 4 or more short-times a day with the non-bar-based guys around Pattaya... and it's quite likely that short of landing a Swiss banker he'll never see that kind of support again, and it'll take him at least a few months of being big-headed to figure it out, so I'd guess unless he has more sense than the average bar boy he'll be losing money after you trying to gouge customers.

It must take awhile for people to understand that "spoiling" really does mean a bad thing to do to someone.

[GWMinUS]

I sincerely think consumers of prostitute services get into trouble taking on the role of SOCIAL WORKERS.

HUMMM, well I am a Daddy and I enjoy taking care of my Thai friends!!!
I do tip but I also enjoy giving a gift. I feel it says more than "Thanks for the shag!"
And my freinds in BKK, do not get to Pattaya, appreciate it.
If they keep it or hock it when I leave, I still have enjoyed the experience.
Do not see that as Colonial...

I'm chuckling a bit because when I suggested on an earlier thread that tipping a boy 7,500 bt for one week was fair, I was lambasted as a stingy bastard and told to go back home. So, I tip a boy 30,00 bt for a month (which is less than 7,500 per week), and I'm lambasted as being way too generous.

I do think when people are considering a longer off that they do need to plan for all those extra fees such as eating, shopping, and entertainment expenses as well as a boy's daily pocket money needs (that will be inflated when with a customer). I tried to give an honest look at that for those interested. I think budgeting in 1,000 bt per day extra for all of these other expenses is a minimum.

I'm also a little amused that some think the boy would never see 30,000 bt again in a month. The boy makes more than that every month even in low season. I've personally seen him go off almost every night. I'm sure he is offed 25 times in a month on average. He's also a favorite with Asian customers (he's half Chinese and fluent in the language), so his tip average is higher. I know a number of boys who work hard and make 30,000 bt up per month, even in low season.

I felt this boy out before I offed him for a month and had already offed him a number of times. I also paid the off fee week-to-week, so we could both back out if it wasn't working (not always possible if one is traveling with the boy). I knew his general income level and was somewhat aware of his expenses at home. Some boys may do a month at 25,000 bt or even 20,000 bt. They also know they will not have to pay for anything for themselves during a long off, so that is a consideration. If one knows how often a boy will typically go off in a week, it helps with the negotiations.

Last, I did the butterfly thing for six weeks or more (and did it well). It can get old, and all the boys and the sex starts to blur together. I felt at the time that I had found a really good boy for a LT off, and I haven't been dissapointed. I think people will find their own comfort zones on butterflying versus having one BS for longer period. I've been lucky enough that my stay allowed me to try both.

Pete

I sincerely think consumers of prostitute services get into trouble taking on the role of SOCIAL WORKERS.

HUMMM, well I am a Daddy and I enjoy taking care of my Thai friends!!!
I do tip but I also enjoy giving a gift. I feel it says more than "Thanks for the shag!"
And my freinds in BKK, do not get to Pattaya, appreciate it.
If they keep it or hock it when I leave, I still have enjoyed the experience.
Do not see that as Colonial...
You wouldn't, big white American Daddy warbucks!

Ok, so someone said you can off 4 boys a night, short time, for the amount Pete is giving each month. It's all a matter of what you want, some have been butterflies and now look for companionship, you do not get that with short time offs. To ask a boy to stay with you for a few weeks or even months in my case means that you get to spend time with him, his friends and have more fun than just a quick fumble in the sack. Of course, nothing wrong with a quick fumble, as I said, it's all a matter of what you want.

As for it being 'colonial' to take a guy to the dentist to have his teeth done, I don't see it that way, although you may think my situation similar to the 'teeth' story. My friend could only speak the 'bar talk' (what your name, where you from etc) taught to him by a friend when I first met him. I forget which of us brought the subject up, but I have for the past several weeks been paying for English Language classes for him with a 'one on one' teacher. He jumped at the chance and loves the fact that he is learning to speak another language. His English has improved dramatically and he visits his teacher everyday coming back to me to show his notes and practice what he has learnt. I cannot explain how excited he was and is to be doing this.

As far as the boy being 'big headed' when earning so much and possibly wasting his money. It is totally up to him as to what he does with the money he has, although I have only seen evidence of his wild spending on a few new t-shirts from the market and a pair of jeans. I do know for a fact that he has a bank account and also puts money into his parents account, roughly half whatever he earns. He is not big headed with any his friends and often makes sure they are 'ok', I like his friends and he likes that I off them occassionally to take them to karaoke, other bars or venues and tip them accordingly.

So, his earnings may drop when I eventually return home, he knows this and I assume that is why he is banking his money, something I know not all Thai boys do. I hope I am leaving him financial better off and also with additional language skills which will help him whether he continues working in bars or whatever he decides to do.

[bing]

Good on you, Language class is a neat thing to do for a Thai friend. I have found Mim at NS Travel is a very good teacher for young men. She has been doing it for years and is very good. As I recall it is about $50.00 per month for the class. She stresses language skill in her class, not just learning the letters. If you have trouble finding her shop. Just walk one block past Monty's pool or Memory Bar. Being a bit slower than the average bear. It took me a while to find NS Travel.