The disgusting escort situation in Morocco

[erablenuit]

Sorry for being so judgmental in the topic, but it is how I feel about the escort situation here in Morocco.*



Escorts are everywhere and I have nothing against them. In fact, I love them, as long as they are honest about what they do, have a sense of service and be more or less fair. They are not here!



The economy in Moroco is bad, so bad that few young guys have a real job and those who do make barely their rent. With the typical Arab horniness and their welcoming nature on one side, and the affluent tourists from Europe and Middle east, it could have developed a healthy and booming*escort market. But unfortunately, it hasn't the been the case. The main problem*is the lacking of work ethic in the whole region.*



I can't help comparing the situation to Cuba. Moroccans are as hot as Cubans, equally open to homosexual sex, but far less educated and ethical. Something good which came out of the communist years of Cuba is people understand in order to get something, they need to deliver something in return. Here in Morocco,*they just grab and run.*



Which made things worse is the illegal immigration from the neighboring black African countries. Desperate situations made lots of them rotten.



Several points can illustrate the issue here:



First, Morocco is a muslim country. The escorts here somehow made this their avantage. Most of them are miserable and have nothing to loose, so they are not afraid of making a scene, especially the foreign black guys from Mali, Niger, etc.*

I met a young Moroccan*cardiological doctor in Marrakech, who told me that two weeks earlier, he was obliged to pay 2000 dh (200 euros) to a disguised black escort when he refused to leave.



Second, they never say they are escorts. Actually most of them deny that when you ask. You really need to be vigilant and dig really hard to get*the truth. They have ambiguous way of answering your questions, such as:

- I'm not escort. (But I still want some money for cab, and I paid 100 times more than normal because I was in such a hurry to get to you)

- I just want to have fun. (But you have to pay)

- Dont be silly, not everyone's escort. (But I am)

...

When you try to let them answer just 'yes' or 'no' to a very specific question such as 'Are you going to ask me for money?', they would become silent, maybe for a day. Then they will come back talking to you as nothing had happened, until you ask them specifically again.



Third, they lie about everything, they send fake photos, and they don't perform sexually. Again, if I take some examples of how they answer your questions:*

- They are my photos. (But they are not of me, but of a 'friend')

- I'm always hard. (As hard as I can get, while you keep on sucking me)

- My cock measures 25 cm. (Seriously you believe that? How fool)



Just to resume, the escort market here is sick and disgusting. And it spoils the normal fun market, too.*When people don't have any ethical bottom line, anything can happen. I personally would not recommend Morocco to those who want to meet local boys for fun.*

[Nirish guy]

The above message was brought to you by the Tourist board of CUBA. :) ( Joke )

[christianpfc]

Thank you very much for your report. I have no sexual interest in Arabs (but in Blacks very much!). I love reading candid reports like yours, most members here sugarcoat their interaction with moneyboys (prostitutes, escorts).

Second, they never say they are escorts. Actually most of them deny that when you ask. You really need to be vigilant and dig really hard to get*the truth.

When you try to let them answer just 'yes' or 'no' to a very specific question such as 'Are you going to ask me for money?', they would become silent, maybe for a day. Then they will come back talking to you as nothing had happened, until you ask them specifically again.
That should be easily solved by asking "how much?", instead of fishing for a free fuck?

Can you explain your use of asterisk *, to me they seem placed haphazardly.

Welcome to the forum! I''m looking forward to more such well written, informative and candid posts! (But I cannot resist mentioning that there are several blank lines between paragraphs, which requires more scrolling than necessary. Better formatting next time?)

[goji]

My limited experiences of escorts in Europe from Moslem countries is similar to the opening post. They are unreliable, dishonest & best avoided. I'm in no hurry to travel there & looking at the broader track record of their compatriots, we would do well to stop any more of them travelling to Europe. All we get is trouble.

[fedssocr]

desperate people do desperate things

[christianpfc]

desperate people do desperate things
Once they are in Germany, they are housed, fed and get medical service for free.

"Desperate" as "desperate for a new mobile phone".

[frequent]

Once they are in Germany, they are housed, fed and get medical service for free.

You'd prefer them to be wandering around mugging and stealing in order to survive?

[Nirish guy]

Probably best not to ask Christian what he'd like done with immigrants, one of his hero's doesn't have a particularly good track record in that department - or in Christian's eye's maybe very good but just was stopped too early, I'm not sure which.....no, actually I'm fairly sure now that I come to think of it.

[goji]

Once they are in Germany, they are housed, fed and get medical service for free.

That's before they go around harassing women, committing a terrorist atrocity or some other obnoxious behaviour.

Europe needs to be much more selective about who is allowed in. If the moderate parties continue to foul it up, all we will get is extreme parties getting elected. When they do what is necessary to fix this specific problem, there will be other policy disadvantages as well.

[frequent]

That's before they go around harassing women, committing a terrorist atrocity or some other obnoxious behaviour.

Europe needs to be much more selective about who is allowed in. If the moderate parties continue to foul it up, all we will get is extreme parties getting elected. When they do what is necessary to fix this specific problem, there will be other policy disadvantages as well.

What was your solution 40 years ago when native-born IRA terrorists were shooting down and blowing up their fellow countrymen? Send them back to where they came from? Is that also your solution for the situation in the south of Thailand?

[christianpfc]

You'd prefer them to be wandering around mugging and stealing in order to survive?
I'd prefer them staying in their home country.

If you look at pictures, it's all young healthy men who come to Europe, leaving behind the young, the old, the women, the sick. It's not those who are in need who come to us, it's those who can afford to pay the traffickers.

[cdnmatt]

I'd prefer them staying in their home country.

If you look at pictures, it's all young healthy men who come to Europe, leaving behind the young, the old, the women, the sick. It's not those who are in need who come to us, it's those who can afford to pay the traffickers.

I really hope you're joking, but considering your previous "jokes" about how great Hitler was, I highly doubt it. Go watch some YouTube videos of the refugee camps, or the line ups of waiting to get adminitted. Those are hardly all military abled males.

You do realize this is the worst emigration crisis since WWII, right?

Some people in Canada are the same. I have to remind them that we're only 150 years old, so we're brand spanking new, and we're all immigrants. I know I come from Scotland and Germany. Now a bunch of Canadians are scared and all worked up that other people want to come too, which makes no logical sense.

I can somewhat understand these feelings if you're German, because your country is a whole lot older than Canada. However, thankfully your chancellor doesn't agree with you, and Germany has accepted more refugees than I think any other Western country.

[fedssocr]

Once they are in Germany, they are housed, fed and get medical service for free.

"Desperate" as "desperate for a new mobile phone".

I was mainly referring to the subject of this thread, not Germany. But I guess the same applies. Desperate people are leaving horrible situations in their home countries in search of something better. And often dealing with hardships none of us can even imagine on the way there.

[goji]

I can somewhat understand these feelings if you're German, because your country is a whole lot older than Canada. However, thankfully your chancellor doesn't agree with you, and Germany has accepted more refugees than I think any other Western country.
Moslem immigration is increasingly unpopular with the German population. If the centre parties don't offer a solution, the more extreme ones will gain votes. This mass immigration & the predictable damage to our culture endangers our liberal democracy.
Incidentally, the Germany situation will have had a small effect on the Brexit vote. Potentially a small & significant effect. Anyone who comes from the middle East & is granted an EU passport may then settle in the UK. Not everyone is happy with that possibility.

Besides, all these moslems show low tolerance for gays & I see no reason at all why we should show any tolerance for them. They screw up their own countries, to the extent where we would be executed in many of their countries. They frequently show no respect for non-moslems.

As Christian stated, they should stay in their own countries. We are not welcome there, they should not be welcome
here. More to the point, with many of us they ARE NOT welcome, no matter what the Guardian & BBC might say.

[cdnmatt]

Quit being so absurd, because there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back up your claims / fears. This is the same rhetoric as hTrump's Muslim ban, when in reality, nearly all terrorist attacks within the US are carrired out by US citizens.

You're bending to the bullshit fear mongering paranoia that has absolutely no basis in reality, nor any solid facts to back it up.

This bullshit rhetoric is how the holocaust started, so make no mistake, we're on aslippery slope here. Make sure you're on the right side of history.

Besides, put the stats together. There's an estimated what? About 50,000 ISIS fighters? Yet, about 1.5 billion Muslims on this planet? Hmmmm....

[frequent]

Moslem immigration is increasingly unpopular with the German population.Hardly unexpected. Perhaps they could re-open the concentration camps for which they are justly famous
our liberal democracy... Besides, all these moslems show low tolerance for gays & I see no reason at all why we should show any tolerance for them.Oddly enough, a truly liberal democracy is based on ideas in, for example, the christian texts, for example Matthew 18:21&22 "Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother who sins against me? Up to seven times?” Jesus answered, “I tell you, not just seven times, but seventy-seven times!"

It's no coincidence that it's Marine Le Pen's anti-liberal anti-Muslim party that is attracting some gay supporters (despite her father's homophobia) precidely because of this "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" attitude that you are championing

[christianpfc]

Go watch some YouTube videos of the refugee camps, or the line ups of waiting to get adminitted. Those are hardly all military abled males.
I don't have to watch videos on youtube, I just have to walk through my home town and look around: all males estimated age 20-40. And none of them looks like he was a doctor or engineer in his home country!

I see it with my own eyes, in my home town!

And via a friend who worked in construction of one of the new camps in my home town, I have seen it from inside before it opened: I have stayed worse in hotels in Thailand (for 200 Baht per night) and I stayed at a similar standard in hostels (in Sieam Reap or Taipei, for about 10 USD per night).

Said friend pointed out that the electrical hot plates in the kitchen now have time switches. Before, the administration wondered about unusually high electricity consumption, until they found out that the immigrants don't switch off the hot plate when they are done cooking (a cultural issue: in their home country they cook with wood or charcoal, which you just let burn out when you are done cooking).

[Nirish guy]

(a cultural issue: in their home country they cook with wood or charcoal, which you just let burn out when you are done cooking).

WHAT ! Shock horror, they're not turning off the hot plate after cooking as they're not used to doing that culturally,the philistines ! Right, well, that's it then, they'll just all have to go !

Mind you we will it seems also have to add my Filipino BF to the list then as under those rules it appears that he also it seems is incapable doing simple tasks such as closing the fridge door after use as it seems his dotting mother just followed his lazy ass around all day picking up after him and closing fridge doors etc that he just didn't bother closing and when I asked why his mother allowed this and spoiled him so much I was just told "I guess its a cultural thing" - so, that's it, it's the first banana boat back to Manila for him then for SURE ! Hmmm or perhaps thats just a BIT of an over reaction EH Christian ? :-)

[frequent]

And none of them looks like he was a doctor or engineer in his home country!
What does your average refugee doctor or engineer look like these days?

[cdnmatt]

I don't have to watch videos on youtube, I just have to walk through my home town and look around: all males estimated age 20-40. And none of them looks like he was a doctor or engineer in his home country!

So you mean males are out there every day working, and doing what they can to provide for their family, while their wife stays at home to take care of the kids? Yeah, we can't have it. Best to squish them back onto some shotty boat, send them back across the Meditterrean, and wish them the best of luck.

Sorry to break it to you, but the whole blue eyed, blond haired Aryan race thing ended quite a while ago. Germany lost that little battle, remember?

What's happening within Europe right now with various elections is pretty fucken scary, so hopefully rationale wins the day, but I guess time will tell.

[frequent]

I'd prefer them staying in their home country.

Like this chap (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-army-idUSKBN17T1M7) you mean?
German police have arrested an army officer suspected of planning an attack, the prosecutor's office in the city of Frankfurt said on Thursday, giving no details on the potential target, motive or weapons he had planned to use.

The 28-year-old lieutenant, a German citizen who serves with a German army brigade stationed in the French town of Illkirch, south of Strasbourg, was arrested on Wednesday in the Bavarian city of Offenbach, east of Frankfurt.

[goji]

CDNMATT is not well placed to comment on the opinions of European people, offers no facts & is best ignored.

[christianpfc]

So you mean males are out there every day working, and doing what they can to provide for their family, while their wife stays at home to take care of the kids? Yeah, we can't have it.
None of those I see in my home town is working. They are lingering around in public.
We have several million unemployed Germans in Germany, we don't need any more from elsewhere!
You can have them all!


German police have arrested an army officer suspected of planning an attack, the prosecutor's office in the city of Frankfurt said on Thursday, giving no details on the potential target, motive or weapons he had planned to use.
Versus how many attacks, not just planned but successfully performed, by immigrants (in a wider sense, even if they were born here, but their parents came from abroad) on natives?

You have to consider statistics as well: Out of 75 million Germans living in Germany, one planned an attack, let's assume on arbitrary immigrants. Out of 5 million immigrants living in Germany, there were between 5-10 attacks on arbitrary Germans, killing total 10-20 Germans, in the last year. (I don't have exact data as I don't follow the news closely).

[frequent]

None of those I see in my home town is working. They are lingering around in public.I say the same thing about my friends. The only ones I see are the ones who aren't working. The others are in their offices.
CDNMATT is not well placed to comment on the opinions of European people, offers no facts & is best ignored.Presumably none of us is well placed to comment on the opinions of bar boys or Thai people generally?

[cdnmatt]

None of those I see in my home town is working. They are lingering around in public.
We have several million unemployed Germans in Germany, we don't need any more from elsewhere!
You can have them all!

Ok, let me put this in language you may understand...

You love living in Thailand, right? You've admitted you love coming to Thailand for the hookers. You've admitted you "linger around" the slums looking for cheap sex with willing poverty stricken males, correct?

Guess what asshole? You're an immigrant! The common Thai talks shit about people like you the same as you're talking about immigrants coming to Germany. Go figure, eh?

[erablenuit]

"How much" would get you "I'm not escort" answer, too. I tried.

The blank lines are for structuring the paragraphs (First, Second, Third).

[goji]

You're an immigrant! The common Thai talks shit about people like you the same as you're talking about immigrants coming to Germany. Go figure, eh?

There are differences:
1 The Thai taxpayer is not spending a fortune looking after Christian, in the same way the German government does with refugees. Christian is self supporting.
2 Christian & other Europeans in Thailand do not repay their hosts hospitality by committing terrorist atrocities. Or making it unsafe for local women to walk the streets.
3 Look around the world and see who does not live in harmony with people of other beliefs. Look who causes terrorist problems in Europe. Look who does it in Thailand. India. The USA. Even within their own miserable region one division does not get on with another.

[frequent]

3 Look around the world and see who does not live in harmony with people of other beliefs. Look who causes terrorist problems in Europe. Look who does it in Thailand. India. The USA. Even within their own miserable region one division does not get on with another.
I'm looking at the Burmese Buddhist persecution of the Moslem Rohingyas, or the Roman Catholics of Northern Ireland with their Protestant compatriots. What about Bosnia, where it was the Moslems being persecuted? But, as I said before, I'm expecting goji to suggest a final solution for the refugees in Germany any day now.

[frequent]

Guess what asshole? You're an immigrant! The common Thai talks shit about people like you the same as you're talking about immigrants coming to Germany. Go figure, eh?No Matt, you're an immigrant. He's a tourist, no matter what poses he strikes

[cdnmatt]

I know he went back to Germany, but from his recent postings, I assumed he was back living in some shitty 4000 baht/month studio apartment in some slum in Bangkok, no?

[frequent]

I know he went back to Germany, but from his recent postings, I assumed he was back living in some shitty 4000 baht/month studio apartment in some slum in Bangkok, no?
That doesn't make him an immigrant. I've liver here (mostly) for the past 30 years and I'm not an immigrant - I'm an ex-pat

[frequent]

To clarify:
* an immigrant is someone who goes to live in a foreign country and fantasises about settling in and being accepted (the more foreign the country the greater the fantasy)
* an ex-pat is someone who goes to live in a foreign country and realises that they're living in a form of real-life Disneyland (the more foreign the country the greater the Disneyland)
* a tourist is someone who goes to a foreign country and thinks it's all wonderful

In Thailand almost all long-term Westerners are here on non-immigrant visas anyway, however much they're in denial

[frequent]

If we're going to bar refugees because a tiny minority might be murderous, why doesn't the USA deport all young American males, who have murdered 250,000+ people over the past 15 years. In that period Islamic terrorists have killed less than 1,000 people in Europe http://www.datagraver.com/case/people-killed-by-terrorism-per-year-in-western-europe-1970-2015

However Goebbels didn't let facts get in the way of persecuting Jews, gypsies and homosexuals ...

[cdnmatt]

Tit for tat. Immigrant, expat, sexpat, tourist, sex tourist, or whatever.... Call yourself what you want, we're all still viewed through the same lens by the common Thai folk.

[goji]

I know he went back to Germany, but from his recent postings, I assumed he was back living in some shitty 4000 baht/month studio apartment in some slum in Bangkok, no?

What Christian pays for his apartment is irrelevant.
The point is Christian does not sponge off the local taxpayers & then repay their generosity by plotting terrorism. He's also not going to have about 6 kids in an effort to increase the support for his own religion.

[frequent]

Tit for tat. Immigrant, expat, sexpat, tourist, sex tourist, or whatever.... Call yourself what you want, we're all still viewed through the same lens by the common Thai folk.And we should care because?

[frequent]

The point is Christian does not sponge off the local taxpayers & then repay their generosity by plotting terrorism. He's also not going to have about 6 kids in an effort to increase the support for his own religion.Thank you, Dr Goebbels

[christianpfc]

I know he went back to Germany, but from his recent postings, I assumed he was back living in some shitty 4000 baht/month studio apartment in some slum in Bangkok, no?
No.

[Brad the Impala]

The OP was unhappy with his experiences with guys in Morocco, although he seemed to have good experiences in two other threads on the same topic, this was followed by someone claiming bad experiences with escorts from moslem countries from which we rapidly descended into Marie Le Pen territory. No idea that there were so many bigots on this board.

[latintopxxx]

all this illegal immigration/manufactured refugee crisis has few up sides and many many down sides. Having lived in Europe most of my life I can relate how uncomfortable and at times dangerous it is to walk through muslim majority neighbourhoods in Rotterdam/Antwerp/Paris...and Im a solid tall well built male...if I was an unaccompanied female the situation would most definitely be intolerable...if not threatening....would be called a whore...to my face...this is what happens when " they" rule...they flee their shitty cultures...and then bring these " shitty" vagina mutilating culture with them.
On the upside the availability of cheap bubble butted MB has sky rocketed.....

[goji]

No idea that there were so many bigots on this board.
Not bigots at all. Just rational balanced people who realise where our society is under threat.
Incidentally, if you want to see bigots, read up on the history of The Ottoman empire. Having harems full of non believing women who can be raped any time they please was just fine. And remains so amongst some.

If I moved to some of their countries:
1 Opening a gay bar would be completely illegal, probably on at least 2 counts.
2 The death penalty applies for what I would like to do indoors, in private.

When they move here:
They build as whatever they like to further their culture. We allow that.
We tolerate all their changes from our own lifestyle.
Then, when, for example, the local gay sauna applies for an adult entertainment licence, inside the premises, they all object because it is near a holy place. That isn't even in sight of the sauna.

So we're supposed to tolerate them, whilst they do not tolerate us. I'm not ever accepting that.

You also have to have a persepective on history. Looking at the ebb & flow of territory. At one point they had the Iberian peninsula & were on the outskirts of Vienna.
We don't exactly have a clean track record either, but where there has been over a thousand years of conflict, it is wise to assume it has not stopped & we should be be ready to protect our own security above all else.

Mrs Merkel & co are failing miserably.
Also people like Marie Le Penn would not be gaining support if the liberal centre had a slightly more intelligent set of policies to control the inflow of terrorist sympathisers.
Incidentally, when I mentioned Marie Le Penn in my office full of University educated people, the first response was concern about any jihadists displaced from France coming here.

[Brad the Impala]

"They" this, "they" that, "they the other. Denigrating an entire race without actually mentioning them by name!

Definition of bigot
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

[frequent]

We don't exactly have a clean track record either...Coming from a German, this has to be the understatement of the last 150 years

[goji]

"They" this, "they" that, "they the other. Denigrating an entire race without actually mentioning them by name!

Definition of bigot
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

If not tolerating their bigoted & prejudiced attitude makes me a bigot, I am happy for you to classify me like that.
I don't see why society should accept their intolerance whilst expecting the rest of us to have a completely open attitude to them. That would be discrimination.


Incidentally, I'm not referring to a race or ethnic group, rather those who follow a set of religious beliefs that they try & impose on the rest of us. For example, a few people in the middle east still follow other religions, so it is not a uniformly racial issue. The lucky ones even have even escaped decapitation.
I don't in principle mind what anyone believes, as long as they don't impose it on other people. That's exactly where it all goes wrong though.

[pong]

[QUOTE=erablenuit;216325]Sorry for being so judgmental in the topic, but it is how I feel about the escort situation here in
Second, they never say they are escorts. Actually most of them deny that when you ask. You really need to be vigilant and dig really hard to get*the truth. They have ambiguous way of answering your questions, such as:

THis has to do with very strict laws in MA about unsolicited ''guides''/fautes guides, introduced after too many complaints around 2000 when there was a big move, led by a princess, to stimulate tourism.
There are many guidelines (most in French though) about the best way to handle this.

[a447]

It is interesting to see that frequent has given a "like" to Brad's post above, which included this definition of a bigot:

"a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"

Within lies the root of his self-loathing and bitter and twisted personality. The group he "treats.....with hatred and intolerance " is gays. Members of this board.

After all these years, he still has not come to terms with the fact that he is gay.

How sad.

[AsDaRa]

Book advice: The Strange Death of Europe, from Douglas Murray.

Stop islamic immigration now!

[frequent]

Book advice: The Strange Death of Europe, from Douglas Murray.

Stop islamic immigration now!

There's a newly discovered Neanderthal book "The Strange Death of Us - stop homo sapiens immigration now"

[AsDaRa]

There's a newly discovered Neanderthal book "The Strange Death of Us - stop homo sapiens immigration now"

You saw what happened to them when this immigration wasn't stopped.

[frequent]

You saw what happened to them when this immigration wasn't stopped.Yes, King Knut, I'm aware of what happened