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lonelywombat
September 21st, 2016, 15:04
https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/09/thailand-nudist-resorts-flourish-asia-pacifics-popular-tourist-haunt/Thailand: Nudist resorts flourish in Asia-Pacific’s most popular tourist haunt

By Asian Correspondent Staff (https://asiancorrespondent.com/author/ac-news/) | 20th September 2016 | @ascorrespondent (https://twitter.com/ascorrespondent)

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WHILE Thailand is known for conservative values typical of any Asian country, nudist or “naturist” resorts where tourists can unabashedly bare all are thriving in the kingdom.
There are currently at least four such getaways – in Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Pattaya and Phuket – catered exclusively for the naturist, all opened by Danish Gregers Moller and his wife.
At these clothing-optional resorts, visitors are allowed and in fact, encouraged, to go in the buff within the compound, where they can mingle with other like-minded individuals on holiday.
According to Moller, a 8,000 sq ft campsite dedicated for the nudist colony will be opened by year-end at a location somewhere between Bangkok and Kanchanaburi, the South China Morning Post (http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/travel-leisure/article/2019014/asia-nudists-best-places-bare-it-all-holiday)reported.
SEE ALSO: Uproar in Thailand over Songkran topless dancing (https://asiancorrespondent.com/2011/04/authorities-no-topless-dancing-please-were-thai/)
Moller’s resorts are said to be the only ones in Asia that exclusively serve nudists, and the hospitality entrepreneur said he hopes the campsite will complement them well by providing guests with a more “primitive experience.”
“It’s close to nature,” he was quoted as saying by SCMP.
Moller, a former foreign correspondent for a Danish newspaper who grew up in a household of nudists, made his foray into nudist hospitality in 2009 after opening the Chan Resort in Pattaya. He first arrived in Thailand in 1988.
He said most of his guests hail from India, Australia, Hong Kong, the Philippines, Burma, Thailand, Singapore and Taiwan.
SEE ALSO: Malaysia: Foreigners in court over nude quake-mountain photos (https://asiancorrespondent.com/2015/06/malaysia-foreigners-in-court-over-nude-quake-mountain-photos/)
“They go to their rooms, take off their clothes and come down to the restaurant and talk to other people. Naturists are very talkative and they like to talk to each other.
“Most people who come here are couples. But we also have many singles. Other couple guests don’t mind having singles as long as they do not expect any sexual activity.”
Though it may come to mind, sex in public spaces is strictly forbidden in line with standards set by the Naturist Association Thailand, which was established by Moller and his wife in 2007. The association boasts some 3,000 members, including naturists and resort operators who reserve parts of their premises for nudists.
https://cdn.asiancorrespondent.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/chan-resort.jpgA room in Chan Resort, Pattaya, Thailand. Image via @Chan Resort (http://www.chanresort.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=gallery&page=2&page=1)

“The hotel operators have to sign a contract with the association to behave according to standards. No sex is allowed in public places.
“For the individual members, we have regular meet-ups like the upcoming naked run in October in a three kilometre jungle outside Bangkok,” Moller said.
Moller said he also organizes monthly beach outings but there are no public beaches in Thailand, dubbed Asia-Pacific’s most popular tourist destination (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/27/thailand-is-asia-pacifics-most-popular-tourist-destination-says-mastercard.html) by MasterCard last year, where nudism is allowed by law.
SEE ALSO: Cambodia deports US sisters for taking nude photos at Angkor Wat (https://asiancorrespondent.com/2015/02/cambodia-deports-us-sisters-for-taking-nude-photos-at-angkor-wat/)
“You can see some beaches in Phuket where nobody will mind if women are topless. But they will mind if the men are naked,” he said.
“However, there’s a private island which is owned by the Thai navy which is one hour by boat from Pattaya. Every month, the association members will go to the beach on the island on a Sunday or Saturday for a picnic or games.”

Topics covered: Nudist Resorts (https://asiancorrespondent.com/topic/nudist-resorts/) Thailand (https://asiancorrespondent.com/topic/thailand-2/)

arsenal
September 21st, 2016, 15:45
Who wants to spend their holiday surrounded by naked fat, pale skinned wobbly westerners? That's not a holiday, it's a sentence.

lonelywombat
September 21st, 2016, 17:17
Arsenal you were not invited

fountainhall
September 21st, 2016, 17:49
Who wants to spend their holiday surrounded by naked fat, pale skinned wobbly westerners? That's not a holiday, it's a sentence.
The more so considering they will all the straight anyway! I'll run a mile from them (if my legs will get me that far!)!

scottish-guy
September 21st, 2016, 18:11
Who wants to spend their holiday surrounded by naked fat, pale skinned wobbly westerners? That's not a holiday, it's a sentence.

Sonds like a visit to the "nude beach" at Key West!

After seeing all those old arses hanging down in pleats like festoon curtains I needed to lie down in a dark room with a cup of hot sweet tea.

arsenal
September 21st, 2016, 18:40
Taking your middle aged plus spouse to Thailand and then spending your time playing naked croquet with other like minded couples. Well, it's too fucking weird. Makes those of us who desire 22 year old straight Thai boys seem pretty run-of-the-mill.

Old git
September 22nd, 2016, 05:26
Yup - old nudists ain't pretty..

gerefan2
September 22nd, 2016, 05:33
I needed to lie down in a dark room with a cup of hot sweet tea.[/QUOTE]

Each to his own dear!

a447
September 22nd, 2016, 13:17
I remember seeing nude bathing in the Englischer Garten in Munich. They were certainly not all old and fat.

I'm in Croatia at the moment and today we are going to the island of Lokrum. I've been told there is a nude beach there so we are going to check it out. If I see anything interesting I'll post a photo. No frontal nudes, of course!

BTW I was in Dubrovnik yesterday. What can I say? Stunning!

Yep, those young Croats are absolutely gorgeous!

Oh, and the town itself isn't bad, either.

lonelywombat
September 22nd, 2016, 13:22
Girls we are getting petulant. If you go down to the gay beach at Jomtien you will see many elderly but some cuter younger gays, eyeing up the cuties.
The numbers are similar on nudist beaches except if you go out looking at the older queens, you will see more.

latintopxxx
September 24th, 2016, 23:25
just spent a week in ft lauderdale at the worthington resort. Got 3 pools, all clothing optional, great mix of ages/shapes/sizes/colours....and what fun.

arsenal
September 25th, 2016, 08:26
I'm glad you had a good time Latin and while I would never doubt the veracity of your claim there does seem to be a bit of a discrepancy between what that resort charges ($122.00 minimum) per night and what you say you pay to Thai boys. (500 Baht) Mmmm.


I suppose what I'm saying Latin is that there really is very little point you posting here anymore because nobody believes anything you say. And you've done it to yourself.

latintopxxx
September 25th, 2016, 22:10
....are we even speaking the same language, what has the cost of a hotel room got to do with an off fee?!?! I get high on humiliating money boys...negotiating face to face preferably letting them know what I think they are worth.....its my kink. Others may be into leather/fisting/golden showers/role play/whatever....this is my speciality....its not about the cash..or the willingness to spend it...
Besides, due to a combination of hard work and good luck financially Im real comfortable and could probably buy u several times over...
Or are u just trolling me...wanting me to go off on a tangent...

scottish-guy
September 25th, 2016, 22:26
....due to a combination of hard work and good luck financially Im real comfortable and could probably buy u several times over....

I assume you're also psychic - otherwise you have no idea what anyone else's financial position.

If you're not psychic, your ability to "buy" people is sheer conjecture on your part, and further diminishes your credibility.

latintopxxx
September 25th, 2016, 22:46
scotty...love u too....u just jealous I didnt place an offer on u...

scottish-guy
September 25th, 2016, 23:26
I have no illusions ....I know I wouldnt sell even in a Dutch auction

:cray_mini:

arsenal
September 26th, 2016, 13:24
Congratulations on the purchasing power Latin. It's just that I recall you saying that when in Thailand you were on the economy/budget side of spending. Anyway as I said, I'm glad you had a great time in Fort Lauderdale. Where next we wonder will Latin the jet set playboy pitch up ? The Marina Bay Sands, Simgapore perhaps or maybe The Presidential Suite at the Hotel de Paris, Monte Carlo.

You can follow the further adventures of Latin right here on SGT folks so keep tuning in.

scottish-guy
September 26th, 2016, 21:45
I just hope Latin and Beachlover don't show up at the same 6 star hotel at the same time - the fist-fight over the best room could be embarrassing

arsenal
September 26th, 2016, 22:15
Yes. Beachlover and Latin in adjoining rooms with the white rabbit down the corridor, Willy Wonka next door and Great Uncle Bulgaria just across the passage.

Daveuk
September 27th, 2016, 13:47
Whilst in Pattaya I go often to the Dongtan gay beach, where I would love to go nude, but dress there is distinctly conservative. I once sun bathed wearing a thong but felt distinct uncomfortable so put my shorts back on. You occasionally see gays nude at the Samsuck Sauna.

arsenal
September 27th, 2016, 14:31
Being naked in public should be universally illegal for anyone over the age of 30 or the weight of 12 stones (168 1bs).

And with regard to gay naturist hotels in the Fort Lauderdale area. The people who can afford to go there (or want to) are not likely to be the scrummy twinks you see on Boycrush or Helix Studios. No, they're likely to be the people who can only travel business class because the economy/coach seats are simply too small for them. So this resort may well have 3 pools but a couple of Michelin man sized bodies floating in there doesn't leave much room for anyone else. But each to their own. What fun!

Old git
September 27th, 2016, 23:36
I wonder what a gay focused Thai hotel would have to pay as a retainer to get half a dozen slim fit 18-20 YO lads to lounge around a pool all day, chatting to customers and taking the occasional dip, all without a stitch on?

Provided it was made clear that fat old farangs must not do likewise, that would make for some rather nice eye candy, and an aperitif before hitting the bars in the evening..

goji
September 28th, 2016, 02:15
I wonder what a gay focused Thai hotel would have to pay as a retainer to get half a dozen slim fit 18-20 YO lads to lounge around a pool all day, chatting to customers and taking the occasional dip, all without a stitch on?

Since that might resemble a brothel, I expect the retainer might just have to be paid to the authorities to prevent consistent raids.
Much safer just to run an ordinary hotel.

scottish-guy
September 28th, 2016, 02:50
Funny idea of what constitutes a brothel Goji

fountainhall
September 28th, 2016, 11:56
I wonder what a gay focused Thai hotel would have to pay as a retainer to get half a dozen slim fit 18-20 YO lads to lounge around a pool all day, chatting to customers and taking the occasional dip, all without a stitch on?
I quite like the concept! But it ain't going to happen! You could never keep the private parts private. The tea money to the BIB would be impossibly high and the morality mandarins at the Ministry of Culture will still be smarting from the PR whipping they received after condemning the 3 girls who stripped to the waist during Songkran celebrations when their own website had on its front page - 3 girls stripped to the waist!!

4050
photo: asiaguys,net

In a diliuted form, isn't your idea just an extension of what the Chiang Mai Lanna Lavender tried to do with its massage boys floating around the pool area(!), albeit clothed, and lots of cute students featuring in its excellent shows? But by going mega rather than boutique, it never stood a chance.

latintopxxx
September 28th, 2016, 15:43
arsenal, admittedly twinks were as scarce as hens teeth...but age group did range from early thirties to almost dead...with vast majority in early forties. Surprisingly even though this was in the US most had good bodies...guess the fat wave has yet to hit the gay community. Grindr was also really busy and there was lots of local talent available.

Smiles
September 28th, 2016, 17:04
"... guess the fat wave has yet to hit the gay community ... "
Not sure of the 'community', but it hit you about 10 years ago if that photo of you is any guide. (You know the one.)
Does this thread turn you on latintopoxxx? Do you spank the monkey at night reading Lonely's advertisements? Have you ever got naked in public ... for instance in a place like the OP photo? Did you zoom in to 250 on your computer to see if you could a fuzzy glimpse of a cock?

Surfcrest
September 28th, 2016, 21:31
http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/09/28/naked-truth-bare-it-all-owners-bangkoks-only-nudist-resort

The Naked Truth: Bare it all with owners of Bangkok’s only nudist resort
From the outside, Barefeet Naturist Resort appears just like any other Thai home in the residential area of Lad Phrao — large traditional wooden doors, white paint and tree ferns — but the obvious difference is that there are no windows, seemingly to ensure the privacy of the guests.....

a447
September 29th, 2016, 02:36
Latin's weight seems to...errr....fluctuate, shall we say.

In 2008 he wrote :"I look pretty good in the mirror"

In 2009 he wrote :"I am the first to admit that looking at myself totally in the mirror is something I avoid"

In 2012 he wrote:"given up looking at mirrors...toooo scary...."

Two years ago he told us he had "a swimmer's body"

WTF???

scottish-guy
September 29th, 2016, 06:04
...Two years ago he told us he had "a swimmer's body"....

Under the floorboards or in the wardrobe?

Old git
September 29th, 2016, 12:25
'You could never keep the private parts private'

Of course, stuff would happen, and you'd have to have a strict rule about stuff not happening where others could see it.

Your hotel would have to be discreet in appearance, not suggestively named or promoted and not slap bang in the middle of a red light district - let reputation advertise for you.

Emphasise peace and tranquility, good karma, no kids and clothing optional
- and a bell push under the front desk that signals the boys to grab a towel if the BiB show up..

a447
September 29th, 2016, 13:02
Under the floorboards or in the wardrobe?


In his head.

fountainhall
September 29th, 2016, 14:12
let reputation advertise for you.
As soon as anyone has a great time or somewhere new is discovered, you reckon it won't appear on various forums? And through their own informants the bib will not hear about it? You have more faith than I in the ability of somewhere like this being kept totally under wraps. Sadly I'm certain it would not last more than a month!

Now if it were a Thai owned facility catering exclusively for Thais, I reckon it would in fact have a chance. After all there are gay establishments around the country where farang never get past the front door. And from what I hear, what goes on makes the Soi Twilight gogo bars seem positively tame.

Old git
September 29th, 2016, 19:02
'As soon as anyone has a great time or somewhere new is discovered, you reckon it won't appear on various forums? And through their own informants the bib will not hear about it? You have more faith than I in the ability of somewhere like this being kept totally under wraps. Sadly I'm certain it would not last more than a month!'

I've never seen tea money being collected from hotels or guest houses and never heard any proprietor complaining about it - even those where most of the guests bring back a bit of squeeze each night. That's not to say it doesn't happen, but being the provider of the bed for commercial sex may not in itself contravene any law (I'd need to check..) and doesn't seem to be a target area for fuelling the tea caddy. If a hotel did get routinely 'touched' I suspect it would more likely be in return for something like parking violations, or a forecourt that encroached public land.

So the BiB get a tip off that there's some exotic activity going on in a hotel in town. They go to have a look and find a quiet unassuming little place with a polite desk clerk. They hear a little bell ring in the background, but think nothing of it. Going through to the pool area they find a couple of lads sitting at the bar wearing towels chatting to customers, but nothing inappropriate going on.

They check the lads IDs to make sure they're not underage, call it a day and go back to fleecing Gogo bars..

scottish-guy
September 29th, 2016, 19:23
Maybe you should change your ID to "Naive Old Git"?

Do you really think the Thai police with all their experience in "dealing with" places of horizontal refreshment won't have encountered the "front" you describe?

The Thai police do not have to do their own preparation - there are more than enough farang (and Thai) snitches who are more than willing to spy on venues and customers and report it all back to the BiB who then act on it,armed with advance reports of what is going on and what if any "security" measures are in place to prevent detection.

The opportunity to wear a plastic badge is just too much for certain sad and irrelevant farangs to resist and no doubt there are also some who by "assisting" the police hope that their own activities and peccadilloes will be overlooked by said BiB should their personal shit hit the fan.

If anybody doubts this, just remember that the last major "raid" in Sunee where not only the boys in the gogo bar but the customers were hauled off in the paddy wagons was orchestrated by a farang "plastic badge" informant who I believe was actually present when the raid took place

Old git
September 29th, 2016, 21:44
If that raid is the one I'm thinking of, a lot of the boys were underage, so having a serious chat with the customers was probably prudent..

scottish-guy
September 29th, 2016, 22:27
A "serious chat" about what - none of the customers were found to have committed any offence whatsoever.

Old git
September 29th, 2016, 23:29
I would have thought that was obvious..

scottish-guy
September 30th, 2016, 01:11
Oh it's perfectly obvious what you are insinuating, I'd just like to see if you have the balls to actually say it...

Old git
September 30th, 2016, 11:48
Any guy who thinks it's OK to drink in a bar that's touting pre-pubescent boys should count himself very lucky to get away with a night in the cells.

You can have a debate about the rights and wrongs of 16 or 17 yr old boys working, but when it gets that extreme you must be out of your tiny mind not to walk straight out the door..

frequent
September 30th, 2016, 13:48
Under-age or prepubsecent?

scottish-guy
September 30th, 2016, 14:46
In 20 years I've never seen "pre-pubescent" boys - defined by the NHS as under 12 years old - being "touted in a bar"

I can only assume you're either exaggerating to a degree the former News of The World would be proud of, or you must be visiting bars known only to a select few. Which is it?

fountainhall
September 30th, 2016, 18:00
I've never seen tea money being collected from hotels or guest houses and never heard any proprietor complaining about it - even those where most of the guests bring back a bit of squeeze each night. That's not to say it doesn't happen, but being the provider of the bed for commercial sex may not in itself contravene any law (I'd need to check..) and doesn't seem to be a target area for fuelling the tea caddy. If a hotel did get routinely 'touched' I suspect it would more likely be in return for something like parking violations, or a forecourt that encroached public land.
If two guys - or even a straight couple or two women - book a double occupancy room at the Mandarin Oriental or even at the Ambience in Pattaya, and if sex takes place, there is almost zero possibility of tea money being provided? I know for a fact that commercial sex takes place at both establishments. I have zero idea if the Ambience pays tea money, but certainly the Mandarin Oriental does not! And the same goes for 4-star-, 3-star. 2-star hotels etc. And given the propensity of the Thai community to use short time hotels all over the country, if you suggest they have to pay tea money, I'd laugh out loud. Short time hotels are an institution around most of Asia. In Japan you can hardly walk in any neighbourhood without seeing them. Even in prim old Hong Kong, they abound in a certain part of Kowloon.

But these establishments are for sex - pure and simple, including paid sex with prostitutes. All the work of getting their clients is done before they get near the premises, as I am pretty sure is generally the case in Thailand. Set up a boutique hotel where young men wander around nude for the specific reason of attracting sex with customers and you have both flagrant nudity AND prostitution on the premises - both breaking the law! Establish this in a non-zoned area for "entertainment" and the punishments are even more severe. Besides have you ever met any non-inquisitive Thai? I haven't! So many people would have to have access to the "hotel" - cleaners, electricians, maintenance, suppliers of all sorts etc. etc. Such an establishment would be the talk of the neighbourhood within weeks if not days. To expect the BIB not to hear about it is in the realms of the usual cloud cuckoo land!

latintopxxx
October 1st, 2016, 02:22
fountainhall Im not sure under what rock u have been living all these years or maybe u r simply naive ( look flying pigs) but Im pretty sure that hotels that rent rooms by the hour in Thailand (there are dozens within close proximity to walking street) will be placed under a different category by the Thai authorities.

scottish-guy
October 1st, 2016, 02:37
fountainhall Im not sure under what rock u have been living all these years....

Look who's talking

fountainhall
October 1st, 2016, 10:40
Im pretty sure that hotels that rent rooms by the hour in Thailand (there are dozens within close proximity to walking street) will be placed under a different category by the Thai authorities.
And I'm more than pretty sure that short time hotels - as I've said, a time honoured tradition around the whole of Asia - will not be targeted for tea money. If you believe otherwise, you can always provide proof.

Old git
October 4th, 2016, 23:19
"In 20 years I've never seen "pre-pubescent" boys - defined by the NHS as under 12 years old - being "touted in a bar"

I can only assume you're either exaggerating to a degree the former News of The World would be proud of, or you must be visiting bars known only to a select few. Which is it?"

The raid I recall being reported was the lead story in the Bangkok Post. The bar was in Pattaya, I think Sunnee, the name eludes me. As I only read the BP in print form, I don't have a digital sub to check the archives.

I recall the article was accompanied by a photo of a senior policeman lecturing a group of evidently young, shirtless boys whom they had found in the bar. The article stated that the youngest of the boys was just nine years old.

~~~

"Set up a boutique hotel where young men wander around nude for the specific reason of attracting sex with customers"

I didn't suggest that. They would be there solely for the reason of providing eye candy. But.. they would doubtless get propositioned and would doubtless be tempted by the money offered. What they then did when they were off-duty would be no business of the hotel, but sure, 'stuff' would happen..

scottish-guy
October 5th, 2016, 00:08
.....The article stated that the youngest of the boys was just nine years old...

I think you're imagining things - but invite you to prove what you're saying.

I repeat - I have never seen pre-pubescent boys being "openly touted for sex" in any bar.

latintopxxx
October 5th, 2016, 16:01
scotty boy...so just because YOU never experienced /saw/witnessed something does that mean it doesnt happen?? Fuck move over Thomas...we got a doubting scotty

fountainhall
October 5th, 2016, 21:40
I can certainly recall a visit to Pattaya back at least 25 years ago. With two friends I did a bit of bar hopping. In one we were horrified to see 8 - 10 boys not one of whom looked more than 13 or 14 and could well have been younger. The bar was dark and there were also older guys on stage. We quickly turned around and left but not before we noticed quite a few customers seated around the bar.

scottish-guy
October 5th, 2016, 22:56
"At least 25 years ago" being a very important part of your report.

The dispute is not about 25yrs ago - the raid Old Git is referring to was about 5 or so years ago. Nobody is arguing that Thailand had a dreadful reputation 25yrs ago (the infamous Siren Bar springs to mind) - but the point I'm making is that things have changed and I simply do not believe Old Git's assertion (and he seems unable to prove it)

If we are going to get historical (or hysterical in some cases) a few decades ago in the USA (moral guardian of the universe) you could legally marry your 13yo cousin

scottish-guy
October 5th, 2016, 23:06
scotty boy...so just because YOU never experienced /saw/witnessed something does that mean it doesnt happen??

I accept that - all I'm asking for is some PROOF rather than assertions which seem to have no basis in fact

francois
October 6th, 2016, 00:09
I think you're imagining things - but invite you to prove what you're saying.

I repeat - I have never seen pre-pubescent boys being "openly touted for sex" in any bar.

Well, once upon a time, on my first visit to Thailand about 2000, I walked into my first gay bar where upon the stage were some ladyboys which I had never experience before. Weird to me. But what shocked me most was a Thai grandfather who had his grandson sitting on his lap in the audience. Later realized that was not quite the case or so I thought. Other than that episode I never saw any other such occurrence.

latintopxxx
October 6th, 2016, 02:00
so scotty wants proof, like one is gonna whip ones mobile out and start taking holiday snaps. silly boy.

scottish-guy
October 7th, 2016, 01:38
Pay attention to the debate Latin - it's not necessary for anybody to take photos at all - Old Git says it was all reported in the Bangkok Post, so all that's required is a simple link to the alleged report of this alleged incident.

Old git
October 7th, 2016, 13:31
It would be simple if the BP didn't have a paywall on their archives - see my last post..

scottish-guy
October 7th, 2016, 19:55
So....no proof then from the Bangkok Post directly and nothing archived from it on Google.

...and nothing substantial resembling your story on Pattaya news outlets either (I checked thoroughly before challenging your claims)

There are a couple of press reports of the raid in question - but none contain any reference to "prepubertal boys for sale" or a "9yo boy being touted in a bar"

Why don't you just admit you've "mis-remembered" it (my extremely generous interpretation).

arsenal
October 7th, 2016, 20:48
I have no proof on this rather unsavoury subject but I would be very surprised if ten years ago some Sunee bars weren't offering/procuring this 'service', albeit under the counter.

scottish-guy
October 7th, 2016, 22:10
Well, I have never personally witnessed such goings on, neither have you, and the raid Old Git refers to was not 10 years ago.

In my opinon OG (in time honoured gay fashion) simply could not resist provocatively blowing the story out of all proportion by throwing in an imaginary "9yo boy"

As can be seen in another thread, his style is to spout exaggerated pish with the inevitable result that he has to continually row back from it as he cannot back any of it up.

Old git
October 7th, 2016, 23:34
You are such a charming chappie Scottish - not..

As you get older, time runs away from you, but I'd guess this was about three years ago.

The boys in the photo being lectured were boys, not men - it's no fiction of my imagination, I assure you..

latintopxxx
October 8th, 2016, 01:43
old git....Asians, especially the twinky tribe can look a lot younger.....

scottish-guy
October 8th, 2016, 01:57
I don't feel a need to be charming, just a need to shout "shite" when I smell it.

I note you are now rowing back from 9yo boys being openly touted to seeing photos of "boys, not men" - that's quite a difference.

Give me a shout when you can substantiate your original allegation - until then I'm done on this thread

Old git
October 8th, 2016, 04:59
Latin.. with the greatest respect, I probably clocked that before you were born...

And Scottish, I'm not rowing back an inch, but do begin to wonder why you're so het up about this..

When bad stuff happens there tends to be two accessories - those who say it doesn''t matter and those who say it didn't happen.

Denial doesn't make it go away...

frequent
October 8th, 2016, 12:27
The boys in the photo being lectured were boys, not men - it's no fiction of my imagination, I assure you..
A "fiction of the imagination"!! I must remember that one. However, old git, we're not discussing whether they were or were not "boys", we're discussing your assertion, as yet without any supporting evidence" that the boys were pre-pubescent. It's sad that you can't afford a couple of baht to go behind the Bangkok Post paywall but until you can your assertions are unfounded

lonelywombat
October 9th, 2016, 11:29
This thread was discussed over drinks last night and the question was which bars in Pattaya had the youngest boys on display or available. I am sure some were low teens but never under 14.
My first visit was in 1990 and behind the police station at the entrance to Walking Street, there was a bar I think called the Marine Bar that definitely had a young clientele. It had been established for a number of years. The bar was owned by a policeman and many years later was transferred away to Sunee Plaza.I remember when the attacks were being made by the then government on all gay bars, police who were protecting or owned bars would sit outside in uniform to show they were in control.
The second bar was called the Gentlemen's Bar in soi 1 Boyztown. That also had been opened in the eighties and continued well into the nineties.
There was a complex where Mosaik now operates that had a ground floor bar plus a hotel above that shocked many when very young boys came down in the lifts to see what was going on.There were a lot of complaints.
That place operated for a few years but was raided when a marine squad climbed onto the roof, and let themselves into a sordid operation on the top floor. Closed it down completely.
About that time Sunee area attracted 3/4 dozen boys mid teen maybe lower, that lived on the streets ,in doorways and many were seen sleeping on the rooftops of the Sunee pool buildings.
I was abused when I arrived and gave 20 baht to a mid teen guy begging for food and told you will now get inundated as a soft touch. Within days I was approached repeatedly and had to learn to forcibly say no.
There were places in Sunee that opened and shut I never knew the names but I doubt if they were that young.The street kids are not seen around Sunee in particular any more.
About 10 years ago Rotary established a school/orphanage for these boys and girls. I know the Street Kids organization is doing a tremendous job including the Xmas party and I have listed their website
They provide homes and food for the kids and are always seeking help. I commend their website to newbies and also those who may have forgotten.
http://www.slum-kids.org/welcome/

lonelywombat
October 13th, 2016, 17:06
I have been asked about my knowledge of these places. it was from Spartucas listings . I avoided these places wherever I could.
My first observance was when taken to see Thai boxing with a friend who loved the place. He was straight.
Gentlemen's club was similar. It was pointed out when walking past. Never went in but saw boys out front.The bars where Mosaik is now I was a regular visitor.
The raids were published on all gay forums.