One Night in Bangkok – Great Gay Bars

[Surfcrest]

One Night in Bangkok – Great Gay Bars

https://gay-guide-asia-and-cambodia.com/2016/08/17/one-night-in-bangkok-great-gay-bars/


https://youtu.be/JCFHlprVyMo

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[fountainhall]

Fack Club is in fact Fake Club located on Ratchadapisek between Sutthisan and Huai Khwang MRT stations. It's a huge space but you'll rarely see any farang there unless with a Thai friend.

[bkkguy]

Fack Club is in fact Fake Club located on Ratchadapisek between Sutthisan and Huai Khwang MRT stations. It's a huge space but you'll rarely see any farang there unless with a Thai friend.

but Surfcrest is trying to attract a younger, hipper, more international audience here and I am sure this type of post makes great clickbait on the twitter feed even if it turns out to be just a few poor quality photos of some miss-identified bar with links to a site that rates DJ Station, The Stranger and Maggie Choo’s as the greatest gay bars in town - based it would seem on the opinions of BK Insider Guide and Where Thailand, both general expat/tourist trap sites that are linked to from just about every other website that has any reference to Thailand

though exactly what contribution readers attracted by such posts are likely to make here or how many current contributors would be interested in reading such contributions is still to be seen - but I am sure Surfcrest is right, it will get the numbers up and guarantee the survival of the forum!

bkkguy

[Surfcrest]

In the past in this Forum, I would post TAT snippets to announce Festivals and Events in Thailand and occasionally repost some Party information. Now through Twitter and our Main Site page, I sweep for all the best and most current happenings in and around Thailand to share, albeit vastly more information than just TAT. Only a few of the 27 thousand or more Tweets that I've thought relevant have made it here. This was a great, almost correct article...and the Asia and Cambodia news segment of the International Gay Guide is pretty good. We subscribe to them from our Main Page, I try to share their stories and more with you and our members there and also to our unique Twitter followers. We're up to nearly 500 now based on some of the topics we share.

I wouldn't say we are trying to attract "hipper" audience; we post and tweet on a variety of subjects for any age and to as many interests relevant to travel or expat life in Thailand, including S.E. Asia. The S.E. Asian destinations are places you might want to travel to for a short break from Thailand and things you might want to do while in Thailand, either alone or with someone special. Some of the people visiting our site or following us on Twitter might spend time on our site, some perhaps join the Forum and that's keeping our membership and discussions relevant.

These days, a good site needs to connect with Social Media to stay connected in the constant flow of information around the globe. Moses and I have put a little effort into making this site a lot more relevant as a site and we would hope that the membership will sustain good traffic over time. Maybe I'm wrong and wasting my time, but I have a hunch we're on a good path no matter what happens in Thailand tomorrow in the Thailand we see changing.

As for the article itself...I was fascinated with all those hard-ons. I've seen quite a few shows over the years in Thailand, some so wild they could hardly classify as shows, but not many coyote shows and none as interesting. Fascinating the cock comparisons to body size, once they are all lined up together.

Surfcrest

[christianpfc]

Fack Club is in fact Fake Club...
I spotted that as well, and an address that makes very little sense:
https://gay-guide-asia-and-cambodia.com/
even less when there later is the headline International Gay Guide.

Nonetheless, first impression ok, and this is even interesting:
True colors! Condom that changes color on contact with STIs invented by teens
https://gay-guide-asia-and-cambodia.com/2015/06/24/true-colors-condom-that-changes-color-on-contact-with-stis-invented-by-teens/

[bkkguy]

Some of the people visiting our site or following us on Twitter might spend time on our site, some perhaps join the Forum and that's keeping our membership and discussions relevant.

really? I'm curious - how many new active forum participants have come from your Twitter followers or people who followed a Google or other link to a news story on the main site?



These days, a good site needs to connect with Social Media to stay connected in the constant flow of information around the globe.

if you seriously think that this sentence actually makes any sense then keep drinking the KoolAid, otherwise take a step back and have a serious think about why you need to be using "Social Media" as a source of information and what your marketing objectives are in establishing a "Social Media" presence.

when discussion first started here about the new forum and the new main web site the objective seemed to be to move from a very narrow (and dying) fat ugly old falung sexpat/sex tourist audience to a more general (and growing) gay expat/tourist audience, and the main site and the forum are called Sawatdee Gay Thailand, yet your most recent Twitter posts have been re-tweets (driving traffic away to other web sites) on topics such as "Storm Warning For Anybody Heading North This Weekend", "The ancient lost city of Wiang Kum Kam", "Cooking breakfast in rural Nakhon Nayok", etc - there are already thousands of Thailand news aggregator web sites and Twitter feeds, if you want to compete in that market then you need to getting 500 new followers a day not over a few months, and you may as well change the name of the web site, otherwise I don't really understand what you think you are achieving

yes I am a gay expat living in Bangkok, but yes I don't only eat at gay restaurants and don't only go to gay bars, and I travel both in Thailand, SE Asia and the rest of the world but there are a myriad of sites with relevant info on that, I come to Sawatdee Gay Thailand and the other local forums for a local gay perspective, not a regurgitation of other web sites' idea of "news" - I read restaurant reviews on the local gay forums because I know and have judged the posters and know how to interpret their views (much harder then when dealing with TripAdvisor or the Bangkok Post), the same for travel posts and bar reviews etc


As for the article itself...I was fascinated with all those hard-ons. I've seen quite a few shows over the years in Thailand, some so wild they could hardly classify as shows, but not many coyote shows and none as interesting. Fascinating the cock comparisons to body size, once they are all lined up together.

this is exactly the type of original interesting content and opinion that I think makes it worth visiting the forum here, much more so than a clickbait headline and a comment-less link to another web site - why wasn't this your original post?

and if you really want to get us to visit this other web site then gives us some useful info not just a naked link - both you and christianpfc found some other interesting articles there so share on the forum with some comment about why you found it interesting

relevant original content builds your brand and your traffic - re-tweeting other content or getting Google traffic to news items on your web site that just lead to links to other sites' news content does not, so perhaps you need to think more about what your objectives are and where you and Moses should really be concentrating your efforts - or have I missed the point of what you are trying to achieve here?

bkkguy

[arsenal]

The summer in Asia can be murderous for mosquitoes and I can only assume that is is that or some such other irritation that has so infuriated Bkkguy.

[Moses]

really? I'm curious - how many new active forum participants have come from your Twitter followers or people who followed a Google or other link to a news story on the main site?

bkkguy

Why do you think it is our target - to get new members to forum via twitter?

I can give relative figure: from May to July monthly q-ty of visitors of main site has been almost doubled (to be precise 187%).

[Smiles]

" ... that has so infuriated Bkkguy ... "
I doubt bkkguy was "infuriated" when he wrote his posts on this topic. All I read was a mild criticism regarding the 'vision' of Sawatdee and it's place in the social media universe.
bkkguy has been posting stuff on Sawatdee for much longer than almost anyone, but being 'infuriated' is not an adjective I would ever use when reading his posts. More often than not he goes against the grain, suffers no fools, and is often quite correct. (And full disclosure ... I received no blow jobs for writing this)
As a person who heartily disdains the mundane New World of Facebooking,Twittering, Instagramming, Grindering etc etc I get what he's saying and pretty well agree. Less Twittering and more postings is what's needed here these days.

[bkkguy]

Why do you think it is our target - to get new members to forum via twitter?

ummm ... did you read the quote from Surfcrest's post that I was responding to? but yes I agree this seems to be more Surfcrest's vague dream rather than a real target or objective

and I am really pleased for you that the " visitors of main site has been almost doubled", I won't spoil the mood by asking how you calculate this metric and in what context you consider this a "success" for the web site and for the effort you have put into it - minor technicalities like this are obviously not important to you or Surfcrest despite the significant investment both of you have made to this project so lets get back to enjoying our oysters from Surfcrest's more than one hardon in one night in Bangkok

and arsenal - you obviously haven't even seen me "enraged", this is more my typical response to what I see as a wasted opportunity here!

bkkguy

[arsenal]

I didn't say 'enraged'. I said 'infuriated' and they are not the same thing at all.

[Surfcrest]

really? I'm curious - how many new active forum participants have come from your Twitter followers or people who followed a Google or other link to a news story on the main site?
It would be difficult and even pointless to know this information without asking any of our new members. I think that the obvious point you are missing is that membership comes from traffic and so the focus is to increase traffic with a spin off goal of increasing membership which has happened.



if you seriously think that this sentence actually makes any sense then keep drinking the KoolAid, otherwise take a step back and have a serious think about why you need to be using "Social Media" as a source of information and what your marketing objectives are in establishing a "Social Media" presence.


You simply need to look at any modern site these day to see the social media symbols for you to participate in their feed or to share their stories to other audiences that they think are interested in the same content. It's an extension of the site and an extension of the message, to people who pump in keywords in Search Engines looking for the most well beaten path to the information they are looking for. It puts this site at the front of the que, for anyone searching for information on expat life in Thailand, travel to Thailand and gay travel to Thailand. We're putting the sitef out there and our traffic figures are a reflection that this strategy is working so far.

You may think that our Twitter strategy is to redirect our traffic to other sites. I'm not confident that they don't come back to us for more redirects or even subscribe to our page for the best information or sources of information. We don't share just anything. We share the best sites and articles from their sites based on the quality of information they provide.

Our Main Site page and our Twitter page are not TripAdvisor.but rather a magazine with a variety of topics from a variety of sources of interest to expats and travelers to Gay Thailand. Whether you think it has any value or not is a personal preference. So far it has been working well for our intended purpose on increasing traffic.



this is exactly the type of original interesting content and opinion that I think makes it worth visiting the forum here, much more so than a clickbait headline and a comment-less link to another web site - why wasn't this your original post?

and if you really want to get us to visit this other web site then gives us some useful info not just a naked link - both you and christianpfc found some other interesting articles there so share on the forum with some comment about why you found it interesting

relevant original content builds your brand and your traffic - re-tweeting other content or getting Google traffic to news items on your web site that just lead to links to other sites' news content does not, so perhaps you need to think more about what your objectives are and where you and Moses should really be concentrating your efforts - or have I missed the point of what you are trying to achieve here?
bkkguy

The Forum is a different component of both thee Main Site and the Twitter page. Let's not confuse the three. The Forum and the Forum content belongs to the membership. We are providing the walls and roof for that with the site and the space for the membership to post and to discuss what they like. Past owners have flooded the Board with their own posts, whether that was to keep the Forum looking busy when it was not, or to spread their own ideas or promotions. That's not my goal.

I post and respond just like any other member, because I am and I was a member long before being the owner here. Because I am involved with the promotion of this site through our Main Site page and our Twitter page, I see a lot more information on a daily basis about Thailand. Some of that information a minuscule portion of the entire content I see on a regular basis, I find interesting enough to repost here on the Forum or on our Main Site page. I'm not a cut & paste poster, I don't even liker cut & paste articles, especially when someone changes the article or modifies the headline for shock value. For me, I would rather see the article and decide for myself on the content and whether I'd like to look at more content from that site or not.

It's a start, it's better than what the other like minded sites are doing and it has all added both to our traffic numbers and our increases in membership. Thsi is about making sure the walls and roof around the Forum that is our, the membership's site is looked after and allowed to grow.

Could we grow it bigger, faster and better with more original content? Absolutely, but this is where we are today, versus where we were back in 2013 with the quality of the infrastructure supporting the Forum.

Surfcest

[TaoR]

I read the response Surfcrest gave and I decided, "Okay its time to quit lurking and sign up to show my support for the changes on this site."

So I got my membership last night.

I love the changes to the site; it has turned me into a regular visitor rather than one who visited, the old forum, once or twice a year.

I used to visit Thailand every three months but my last visit was in 1985...so either I was really young back then or I am really old right now.

I think you have done a wonderful job with the new site and I enjoy it immensely. I do miss reading the blog, 'City of Angels' as that blog was how I stumbled on this forum originally.

Keep up the good work!