is gay pattaya all host bars

[lonelywombat]

This was posted on trip adviser this morning
https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/ShowTopic-g293919-i9439-k9461361-Is_gay_Pattaya_really_all_host_bars-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html
today, 4:34



Hi Thailand experts.
Thanks in advance for any advice on this. In early planning stages ofThailand (https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Tourism-g293915-Thailand-Vacations.html)/Cambodia (https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Tourism-g293939-Cambodia-Vacations.html) trip for Nov, and TA has been an amazing help. Was hoping to do usual first-time itinerary of Bangkok (https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Tourism-g293916-Bangkok-Vacations.html)/C Mai/popular island (with this part at beginning for 3/4 nights), but we might be restricted to 10 nights in Thailand, so might have to drop island part. As Pattaya is so close to Bangkok, and has direct flights to C Mai, I was thinking it’d be good alternative for 3 nights (Koh Samet wouldn't work, as couldn't face the 2.5-hour trek after long flights to Bangkok, and the flights from Pattaya to C Mai are very early in morning so need to be based there) – just book nice hotel with pool, but we’d like good nightlife.
We’ve seen the ‘Ladyboys’ TV show a zillion times, and though it shows the sleazy side, it also makes the city look like serious fun, and we want to see the Tiffany's show. However, just doing quick check of the gay scene there, every single bar in all three locations (Boyztown (https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Attraction_Review-g293919-d10104682-Reviews-Boyztown-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html), Jomtien and Sunnee Plaza) seems to be one of these ‘host’ bars, where you’re hassled to buy more than a drink. Is that right? We have no problem with these bars at all, but we wouldn't be the clientele they're looking for. Surely there must be a few casual gay bars, no?
If anyone has been there, or heard from someone who’s been on scene there, or even passed by the bars there to get overall idea, I’d be grateful for any advice. We’re an easygoing couple in mid 30s/mid 40s. We’re going to fill rest of the trip with as much sightseeing as possible, but for these few ‘relaxing days’ we’d like to be able to experience the scene in Thailand, as in having a few drinks in fun bars playing cheesy music/drag shows, but don’t want to be hassled constantly, or surrounded by old men who are looking to be hassled.
Be great to get advice, so can knock Pattaya off my mind if it is truely like this. If it is all hassle, I’ll aim to add more days to trip and fly intoPhuket (https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Tourism-g293920-Phuket-Vacations.html) at start for 4/5 days (where there seems to be a mix of casual and host bars).
Thanks again.

[Mancs]

There are bars in Boystown, like Panorama and Oscars, where you can have a drink without hassle and watch the gay world go by. Jomtien is worth a look too. Pattaya is well worth a visit and is more gay than Chiang Mai.

[francois]

The Wombat is only doing a cut and paste from a topic on tripadvisor.com. Not sure why he didn't just answer the question directly on that forum rather than paste it here?

[arsenal]

Exactly Francois. Any replies posted here will not be read by the person who asked the question. Wombat gets stranger by the month.

[scottish-guy]

Surely LW is just inviting the views of SGT readers on a subject which has been raised elsewhere - rather than trying to answer the OP?

I don't see anything wrong with that.

[francois]

This was posted by, whom I assume to be lonelywombat on tripadvisor (Australia)

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1. Re: Is gay Pattaya really all 'host' bars?

today, 11:59
I posted your request to sawatdeegaythailand where there is an active gay following

sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php…

[frequent]

A rhetorical question, right?

[francois]

Apparently not a rhetorical question. From some correspondence between Wombat and I, it seems clear that he is asking for serious responses to the question raised on the tripadvisor.com forum. Thus the response by Mancs is likely welcomed.

As for my experience, I cannot think of any bars that would fit the description of casual gay bars where there would be a complete absence of available "boys". Nonetheless, I have rarely been hassled to buy more than a drink at beer bars. It would seem to me that the persons posing this question on tripadvisor.com are a bit too uptight.

[scottish-guy]

...I cannot think of any bars that would fit the description of casual gay bars where there would be a complete absence of available "boys".

Which is EXACTLY the reason for going to Pattaya!!

:cool:

[francois]

Well, on further thought, in Boyztown there is Cafe Royal where one can enjoy a drink and watch activities on the soi and hassle free. And, also, as reported there is Panorama plus the new Castro. In Sunee Plaza there is Ouds Beer Bar, All of Me and Sky Bar where one can relax and enjoy a drink and conversation. Not that familiar with Jomtien but the Venue should fit their style of "fun" bar or possibly Dick's Cafe. Fact is this pair seem like two, youngish prudes who don't want to be hassled by young Thai guys and don't want to be surrounded by old, white men.

[scottish-guy]

.. this pair seem like two, youngish prudes who don't want to be hassled by young Thai guys and don't want to be surrounded by old, white men.

Unfortunately, that is par for the course for many/most of the "younger" generation of gay guys - and is one of the reasons I almost never go out on the "gay scene" at home. Snooty young queens who think we're all dinosaurs and actually have no right to be in a bar or club!

I've always been surprised at how intolerant many gay people can be - and even as I reach my 40's (:p) the intolerance still occasionally shocks me.

[francois]

Snooty young queens who think we're all dinosaurs and actually have no right to be in a bar or club!



You do have a way with words, Scotty! I must admit "snotty" has a more nuanced meaning then the term I used, "prude" to describe the dynamic duo who may condescend to visit Pattaya.

But, on a more, or less, serious note, an ideal place for their ilk would be Double Shot Bar in Sunee Plaza. Ideally located and very trendy in decor. No fear of dirty,old men intruding upon them nor any hot, young men trying to tempt them to buy a drink.

[francois]

I see now that I used the word "snotty" rather than "snooty" as quoted by scottish-guy.

For that I apologize to Byron31, the 25-34 yo, male, from Dublin who initiated the post on tripadvisor.com (Is gay Pattaya really all 'host' bars?)

[lonelywombat]

Just looked at the trip adviser and noticed that 4 posts have been removed by them in the last few days, for the content.
nuff said!