Cafe Royale bar

[aot871]

While not in pattaya , I have been told that tonight 01 april is the last night the café bar will be open under the current mangament . Not sure if this is another april fool joke , so just wonder if any one in pattaya now, can confirm this . Have been told this is because of disagreement between Mr Beam and the Aussie guy who put the cash up .

[catawampuscat]

If you were lucky enough to have seen and offed Beam 10 -12 years ago from Toy Boys,
you were in for a treat. He could spread his legs 180 degrees and all of him was pistol hot.
I would have offed him again if he had a easier personality, but many others have lavished
him. He still looks good and knows it.

[lonelywombat]

I do not know what job Mr Beam has or what the Aussie guy does.
Mr Beam is Thai but what is his job, and what does the Aussie man do ,if anything?

[christianpfc]

There were signs for "Cafe Royale" (old, misspelled) and "New Cafe Royal" (new, correct) when I passes two weeks ago.

[fountainhall]

I would have offed him again if he had a easier personality, but many others have lavished him.
Lavished? Or ravished? Presumably both!

[francois]

There were signs for "Cafe Royale" (old, misspelled) and "New Cafe Royal" (new, correct) when I passes two weeks ago.

Probably Royale to give it a more French pronunciation? As in the James Bond film, Casino Royale rather than Royal?

Everybody makes spelling errors although the meaning is clear.

[arsenal]

Well I wasn't going to get involved but they're different words with different meanings although interchangeable in certain circumstances.

[francois]

In reality, the name is Le Café Royale not Cafe Royale Bar.

[christianpfc]

Well I wasn't going to get involved but they're different words with different meanings although interchangeable in certain circumstances.
Can you elaborate please?


In reality, the name is Le Café Royale not Cafe Royale Bar.
Yes, that's what I meant with the old misspelled.

And indeed, Casino Royale should be Casino Royal.

[arsenal]

Christian: Well they're both adjectives and like so many adjectives they can be used as people wish. However royal is also a noun as in The Queen is a royal but to the best of my knowledge there is no such thing as a royale.

[francois]

There are some uses of the word Royale. For example Rue Royale in Paris, thus, if there were a cafe on Rue Royale it could be known as Le Cafe Royale. Also the nickname of the French Navy is La Royale.

And last but not least is :


Definition of royale. plural. 1 : an egg custard cooked and set in a mold, cut into various shapes when cold, and added as a garnish to clear soups. 2 : a changement de pied with a beating together of the legs while in the air.

[arsenal]

Francoise: The garnish is custard royale which means the 'royale' is an adjective and the navy use is a nickname. So one cannot point to something and say it's a royale because it doesn't exist in noun form.

PS: According to Wikipedia a royale can mean some hair sported below the lower lip and above the chin. So I stand corrected although I've never heard of this use.

[lonelywombat]

from Wikipedia
The French Navy (French: Marine nationale, "national navy"), informally La Royale, is the maritime arm of the French Armed Forces.[4] Tracing its roots back to 1624[citation needed] it is one of the world's oldest naval forces and historically played a key part in establishing the French colonial empire

I can understand Ian and Robbie using the term
La Royale and cafe, for their bars.

[francois]

Francoise: The garnish is custard royale which means the 'royale' is an adjective and the navy use is a nickname. So one cannot point to something and say it's a royale because it doesn't exist in noun form.



arsenal, the French Navy might not agree with you ! :p

But you are correct, royale, is used mostly as an adjective except for the facial hair reference.

However since we are on the topic of the "e" at the end of Royal(e), please take note that my name, François, does not end with an "e" as you have used. By adding an "e" you change the both the gender from male to female and the pronunciation. The "s" in François is not pronounced and thus ends with a wa sound as in wa wa. However by adding the final "e" the "s" is then pronounced as a "z" with a woz sound .;)

[arsenal]

Francois: My apologies for misspelling your name.

[latintopxxx]

Bored already...:cool:

[aot871]

Guys , I put a message on here to find out if the bar is open or closed, not to find out the correct meaning or spelling of royale or royal

[arsenal]

Well aot I think that we don't know if it't open or not. But the spelling discussion was rather interesting don't you think.

[lonelywombat]

Well aot I think that we don't know if it't open or not. But the spelling discussion was rather interesting don't you think.

Thanks to the member who sent this to me, no we do not.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/04/03/grammar-police-jerks_n_9588598.html?utm_hp_ref=australia

[francois]

Guys , I put a message on here to find out if the bar is open or closed, not to find out the correct meaning or spelling of royale or royal

I will try to make an effort to see if it is open, which I believe that is the fact, since have not noticed any signs of closure. Whether it is under current or new management is another matter. I often walk by there and have not noticed anything unusual.

[scottish-guy]

arsenal...please take note that my name, François, does not end with an "e" as you have used. By adding an "e" you change the both the gender from male to female and the pronunciation. The "s" in François is not pronounced and thus ends with a wa sound as in wa wa. However by adding the final "e" the "s" is then pronounced as a "z" with a woz sound .;)


Be fair - it was so long ago that Arsenal attended school he's forgotten everything he was taught about French.....


...except the kissing.

:D

[arsenal]

And the only number one needs to remember. Soixante-neuf.

[christianpfc]

Christian: Well they're both adjectives and like so many adjectives they can be used as people wish. However royal is also a noun as in The Queen is a royal but to the best of my knowledge there is no such thing as a royale.
Adjectives cannot be used as people wish;
they have to agree in gender, number and case with the noun they modify.

From French adjectives to English nouns, quite a jump.


There are some uses of the word Royale. For example Rue Royale in Paris, thus, if there were a cafe on Rue Royale it could be known as Le Cafe Royale. Also the nickname of the French Navy is La Royale.

La Rue Royale and from "la marine" to "La Royale", both correct.

Calling a cafe on rue royale "Le Cafe Royale" (with royale refering to rue) sounds wrong to me, but i'm not a native speaker.

Glad to see that interests of members of this forum go beyond bar open/closed, drink prices, short time tips and the usual.

[arsenal]

Christian: I was only referring to English adjectival usage. English is an incredibly fluid language that adds many new words every year which is why we're now up to a million plus. Take both hot and cold. Apart from their reference to temperature they have many other connotations.
Nouns too can become adjectives. A few years ago the word book came to be used to mean something was cool, the reason...if you typed cool into a predictive text message the word book appeared.

[francois]

Could the French be wrong??

Address: 2 Bis Place des Vosges, 75004 Paris, France

[arsenal]

That looks a nice place Francois. What's the plat de jeur?

[francois]

Frogs legs, of course!

[lonelywombat]

Perhaps this might clear the situation
http://www.hotelcaferoyal.com/
Hotel Café Royal is the second member of The Set, a collection created to redefine the concept of the luxury hotel for sophisticated, design literate travellers in the 21st Century. Working to an uncompromising brief that called for hotels that were not only of the moment but that would define their times and locations, architects and designers to rework the DNA of the grand hotel and create spaces that are contemporary in conception, whilst simultaneously evocative of the style and glamour of the past.

Located in existing landmark buildings, each member of The Set is rooted in the history and culture of its location as well as the contemporary needs and desires of its guests.

Maybe Edinburgh
https://food.list.co.uk/place/26319-le-cafe-royale/
Perhaps Spain
http://www.60by80.com/barcelona/bars-clubs/cafe-royale.html

I was interested the pervert club saturdays?

But who gives a F

[arsenal]

"sophisticated, design literate travellers" Yes. I can definitely see that would include most if not all of our beloved members here.

[scottish-guy]

"sophisticated, design literate travellers" Yes. I can definitely see that would include most if not all of our beloved members here.

As a sophisticated, design literate traveller myself it certainly appeals to me - but the clincher would be if there's free condoms and lube in the room.

[arsenal]

The lube should really be made out of Royal Jelly or as the French no doubt call it Le Gelee Royale.

[christianpfc]

La gelée royale

[a447]

Christian, Arsenal has simply confused masculine and feminine. As a frequent visitor to Thailand it is an easy mistake to make...lol

[arsenal]

So just out of curiosity. Who gets to decide if an inanimate object is masculine of feminine?

[francois]

Académie française of course!

[fountainhall]

Académie française of course!
Are you sure you don't mean the Académie François? ;);)

[francois]

If Académie François I would re-write their dictionary and pronunciation guide so that words were pronounced as written and written as pronounced same as in Spanish.:mad:

[francois]

Guys , I put a message on here to find out if the bar is open or closed, not to find out the correct meaning or spelling of royale or royal

Happy to report that tonight Cafe Royale was open.

[dab69]

Noom still working there? Is it still an open-air "show bar"?

[lonelywombat]

Maybe we have to get used to change of name.Here is an ad from Nickys for 18 April using the {new} Cafe Royal
l3693

[scottish-guy]

How about someone providing a pic of the current frontage.

That would be far more conclusive - as we all know and have sniggered at the standards of spelling, translation, and general accuracy in English language ads for Thai businesses.

[christianpfc]

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[scottish-guy]

Well well - the plot thickens - New Cafe RAYAL? That is most certainly an "a" and not an "o"

What did I say about the level of translation services in Thailand? Reminds me of the time I ate in a cafe opposite the Poppa Palace Hotel in Phuket and an item on the menu was described as "Seafood salad with Crap meat" -and before anybody accuses me of making that up, it was so good I took a pic of the menu!

:rolleyes:

[Moses]

Well well - the plot thickens - New Cafe RAYAL? That is most certainly an "a" and not an "o"

What did I say about the level of translation services in Thailand? Reminds me of the time I ate in a cafe opposite the Poppa Palace Hotel in Phuket and an item on the menu was described as "Seafood salad with Crap meat" -and before anybody accuses me of making that up, it was so good I took a pic of the menu!

:rolleyes:

Hm... Royal, Royale... may be it is just from name Raya :))))

upd... or may be just created as has been created Chinese TM "Adibas" :)))))

[christianpfc]

Well well - the plot thickens - New Cafe RAYAL? That is most certainly an "a" and not an "o"
I didn't notice, but you are right!

Fits in with the dot on the wrong place in "G-Star Pavilion" (in a font where all tips from v and i look the same) and a tattoo in gothic letters that read PALYBOY instead of PLAYBOY (I had to ask the boy, couldn't decipher gothic letters and typo).

[paperboy]

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I buy these for the wrong reasons lol