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July 1st, 2006, 22:11
to tell the tale...


I'm no stranger for Thailand, I've been living in the South since October and as you know, its a little different down here. I was just in BKK for a week (for the first time) staying at the Malaysia. It really brought out the social anthropologist in me... tables of money boys with friends/clients/patrons sitting next to tables of police men, groups of farang boozing it up with their new boyfriends (of/for several days). I had the good fortune to spend some time chatting with a nice English chap who was happy to explain the lay of the land to me whilst some of the boys were trying hard to get our attention with notes scribbled on serviettes and some very theatrical kiss blowing.

I have lived overseas for many years in a range of countries and though I have read a lot about Thailand, and learnt a lot from this board, however nothing really prepared me for this carnivale at the Malaysia or being followed in the street several times, propositioned twice on the Skytrain (by MB's I guess) and having a guy thrust his hand in my lap when I went to the cinema downtown to escape the heat of the day. And these were just the happenings during the day!

I have never really paid for sex, well not directly anyway, and I have no hangups about it, when in Rome and all that...
but I have to admit I just didn't know how to engage with all of this. At first I think I was taking all of this too seriously and then too lightheartldy - seemingly offending people either way. And now I have just looked at Ooglemans latest photos and he seems to be having a very jolly time with the same aforementioned boys (some of the photos were taken at the Malaysia no?) - but for some reason I just felt awkward and kind of embarrased and I'm not really sure why.
I feel like there is a key to unlocking all of this, I just don't seem to have it on my keyring...

Dodger
July 1st, 2006, 23:08
I just felt awkward and kind of embarrassed and I'm not really sure why.

I'm not really sure why either!

Having a slurry of young, attractive and available boys around you vying for your attention bothers you? I think not. I think you're just caught up in the exhilaration of it all and don't know who to fu*k first. Come on, admit it...you love the attention don't you?

July 1st, 2006, 23:47
Dodger - it wasn't the attention that bothered me! As I said, I live in the South, in Songkhla and as their aren't many farang in these parts I get more attention than I need and deserve for that matter!
The point I was trying to make is that as it was all very new to me, and as much as I enjoyed watching it all happen, I just felt like I couldn't read any of the codes. And yet the other farang I chatted to and observed just seemed to know what to do and how to do it - they seemed perfectly relaxed. And I was not, particularly after one rather earnest boy would not take no for an answer and then started to get all teary eyed and said "I don't know how I will buy food now". Do you know what that feels like to have a complete stranger say something like that to you - for the first time?

Dodger
July 2nd, 2006, 00:02
whereami,

Well, the good news is that your first exposure to this is now behind you. A far as the "codes" you referred to, I have to assume that you understand this, but in the event you don't, simply avoid making direct eye contact with the working boys, because that's the only "code" I'm aware of. If someone comes up to you and says they need money for food, just smile and say "no think you."

You may also want to consider staying somewhere other than the Malaysia for your future stays. This place is notorious for having working boys buzzing around trying to sell sex, especially in that back room...which happens to be my favorite spot.

mai pen rai

July 2nd, 2006, 00:17
I know its shockingly naive of me, but I didn't know they were working boys. And so of course they were making lots of eye contact with me which is usually the prelude to a conversation and then a shared beer or meal. Lots of eye contact down here just means that someone is trying to get up the courage to have a chat with you but feel shy or don't want to disturb you - Southern Thais are very much like that - want to chat but not impose. I think really I was suffering from (sexual) culture shock.
Living in a fairly conservative town with a large Muslim population - things are done so gently...

As for the Malaysia, I chose it because I remember reading that it was gay friendly and inexpensive. Now about that back room...

Dodger
July 2nd, 2006, 01:06
Don't worry...I think we're all a little naive when it comes to this.

The "back room" to the restaurant is a "smoking area', thus separated from the restaurant by those sliding glass doors you see at the rear of the restaurant. This is a popular hang-out for the working boys and gets crowed around 1 or 2:00 AM after the bars close.

I only stay at Malaysia during my first night in LOS, as it serves as a rest stop before taking the 2 1/2 hour drive down to Pattaya. I always go into that back room after I arrive from the airport to find a candidate to give me a massage. Of course I mean sex also, but frankly, I enjoy getting a full body massage after traveling for 27 hours from the U.S. Granted, the boy I usually end up with hasn't the foggiest idea how to give a massage, but it feels good anyway.

You'll find that the boys up North are just as nice and gentle as they are in the South once you're alone with them. So go ahead...just make direct eye contact with the cutest boy in the room. If you think he doesn't understand the code...use the patented Dodger DaVinci Code, that's where you stick your tongue out and slowly wag it up and down 3 times. To the working boys up North, that means you want to be their friend.


Enjoy...

Dodger
July 2nd, 2006, 01:14
By-the-way, and all kidding aside. I would not recommend keeping a boy overnight at Malaysia. They all know that this is a transfer point for farangs who are arriving in-country who probably have their valuables packed away somewhere in the room.

I've never had a problem there...just a friendly word of caution.

July 2nd, 2006, 01:27
"and then started to get all teary eyed and said "I don't know how I will buy food now"

I know that guy :bom:

July 2nd, 2006, 01:45
were u the one i passed the number to lol?

Jetsam
July 2nd, 2006, 01:47
I know that guy

I know them too :clown:

July 2nd, 2006, 02:23
How did the job interview go? Oh and by the way I'm Irish/Welsh not english.

Brian

Michael
July 2nd, 2006, 02:40
use the patented Dodger DaVinci Code,
that's where you stick your tongue out and slowly wag it up and down 3 times. To the working boys up North, that means you want to be their friend.
Enjoy...

Dodger, thanks for first instalment of The Dodger DaVinci Code. It was most helpful. I can't wait for the next instalment!
:toothy7:

July 2nd, 2006, 15:25
use the patented Dodger DaVinci Code,
that's where you stick your tongue out and slowly wag it up and down 3 times. To the working boys up North, that means you want to be their friend.
Enjoy...

And if that doesn't work...try licking your eyebrows.
PS: Where's that movie theatre?

cottmann
July 3rd, 2006, 14:06
I know that guy

I know them too :clown:

Is that what makes them "the lay of the land?"

I was interested in Dodger's description of "a slurry of young, attractive and available boys." I have always understood "slurry" to be a thin mixture of water and something else, but the image here is irresistible.

July 3rd, 2006, 14:46
I see that this topic has been moved from the "Gay Thailand" forum to the "Any Other Country" forum.

Attn Moderator: the Malaysia Hotel is in Thailand!

July 3rd, 2006, 16:28
I was interested in Dodger's description of "a slurry of young, attractive and available boys." I have always understood "slurry" to be a thin mixture of water and something else, but the image here is irresistible.

What is the collective noun for a group of young, attractive and available (Thai) boys ?

July 3rd, 2006, 17:27
[quoteWhat is the collective noun for a group of young, attractive and available (Thai) boys ?[/quote]

A Throb of boys

July 3rd, 2006, 17:47
By-the-way, and all kidding aside. I would not recommend keeping a boy overnight at Malaysia. They all know that this is a transfer point for farangs who are arriving in-country who probably have their valuables packed away somewhere in the room.

I've never had a problem there...just a friendly word of caution.

I would never do that, it costs nothing to put them in safe box at the reception.

Dodger
July 3rd, 2006, 18:43
I would never do that, it costs nothing to put them in safe box at the reception.

Not a bad idea if they came with a small pillow and a night light.

orson
July 3rd, 2006, 21:27
By-the-way, and all kidding aside. I would not recommend keeping a boy overnight at Malaysia. They all know that this is a transfer point for farangs who are arriving in-country who probably have their valuables packed away somewhere in the room.

I've never had a problem there...just a friendly word of caution.

I would never do that, it costs nothing to put them in safe box at the reception.

is it actually safe to ask them money boys into your room? was warned before of freelancers. btw, how much do they charge?

Dodger
July 3rd, 2006, 23:19
Orson,

There's a mix of boys that hang around Malaysia, but most work in the circuit and come there after work to socialize. I say socialize, because for most of them the work day is over. You can always tell who got offed that evening because he's the one shelling out the baht for food and beer for his friends.

I find that spending my first night in BKK, enjoying a relaxing massage, eating a light early morning meal, and getting 6 or 7 hours sleep before trekking to Pattaya really works out well. I can't say that I'm all that fond of the overall quality of the Malaysia, but it's just perfect for a one night stay.

During my last stay, I actually...in all honesty...cross my heart, was focusing on a good massage. I had just finished eating in their 24 hour restaurant and getting ready to hit the sack. During my meal I watched as several small groups of boys walked through the restaurant heading for the smoking room. I didn't really spot anyone that lit my fire, but decided to go into the back room anyway. There were 8-10 boys hanging around. All sent smiles my way and appeared genuinely friendly. One boy kept turning around in his seat and giving me the textbook come-on smile, but he was obviously "mau" and appeared to be too young anyway.

Well, after trying to dodge this boys smiles for about 10 minutes I finally gave in and smiled back. Maybe it was due to the fact that I really needed sleep and didn't want to sit in this place all night - maybe it was influenced a bit by his great looks...just trying to be honest here.

My return smile to him from across that crowded room is all it took. He was out of his chair heading my way in a flash. The closer he got the more obvious it became that he was mau. He almost fell on his ass trying to pull a chair out from my table, and then erupted in loud laughter which was being choreographed by his equally mau friend's back at his table. He immediate apologized and said "sorry, I am a little mau," "it is nice to meet you"..."my name is Yod, what is your name." The more he delivered his slurred words and constant giggles, the more I was becoming attracted to him.

He was a thin boy with shoulder length light brown hair which he kept brushing to one side with his hand. He was as cute as they come and definitely eager to spend time with me. After a few minutes of small talk, I asked him the big question..."how old are you." He said he was 18 Y/O and just celebrated his birthday a few days ago. I immediately responded by telling him he looked much younger, and with that statement came his response...and you won't believe this...but he took a short glance around the room to see if any one was watching, looked directly in my eyes and just smiled, as he unzipped his trousers and pulled his cock out. My friends, this boy had 8 inches (soft) of thick - dark brown - uncut - heaven between his legs, and I actually had to stop him when he started stroking it to get it hard. He continued to giggle as he stuffed his pride back into his trousers.

Well, after not seeing a Thai boy for 4 months, that's about all it took. I waited for the waiter to come into the small room and motioned him over to my table. I explained the circumstances in a tactful way to avoid insulting the boy, and the waiter then verified his birth date. Hearing those words..."yes, he's 18" was music to my ears. Yes, before you guys jump all over me, I know the I.D. could have been fake, I know the waiter could have been lying to me, I know, I know, but I wasn't in the mood to argue.

I'm sure that the alcohol had something to due with the fact that he came out of the shower completely naked - without the towel, but who am I to complain. After taking one look at his body I just said the hell with the massage, I'll just wait until I get to the Thai Blind Institute in PTY for that stuff. His fingers were thin and cool which felt nice, although, as expected, he had no idea how to give a massage His mouth felt even better and he didn't lack in experience in this area at all. He was a natural "bottom"...meaning, he didn't wait for me to ask, and off towards the sunset (sunrise) we rode

I woke up in the mid-afternoon totally refreshed and ready to go.

I was sitting having dinner with Boy Special that first night in Pattaya. He noticed me continually rubbing my jaws and asked me what was wrong. I told him I had a tooth ache.

mai pen rai

bing
July 4th, 2006, 02:28
I have stayed at the Malaysia a couple of times. Last time I arrived in the late afternoon and the young man at the desk said Hi, and reached around and put a sealed cup of water in front of me. I have been to a lot of more expensive places that did not care if I was hot or not.

Also liked the restaurant. Not the most classy joint but was friendly and that counts with me. Will stay there again, when I can tear myself away from Pattaya.

July 4th, 2006, 04:46
I have stayed at the Malaysia a couple of times. Last time I arrived in the late afternoon and the young man at the desk said Hi, and reached around and put a sealed cup of water in front of me. I have been to a lot of more expensive places that did not care if I was hot or not.

Also liked the restaurant. Not the most classy joint but was friendly and that counts with me. Will stay there again, when I can tear myself away from Pattaya.

Never have any problems at Malaysia. Very helpful staff. In fact they helped me one time. Greatings to the staff. Yes there are a lot of hookers around the coffeshop, some are nice and some are crayzy, but the reception will know who they are, and I think it is the moth secure place to stay, it they don't know the guy, they will take his id.
BTW I like the way they take care of each other. I have never seen any underage guys there, thay are in fact a reasonable establishment
Best deal in town

July 4th, 2006, 04:52
I believe the Malaysia gained its bad reputation quite a few years ago but has largely cleaned up its act. I have never had a problem there in many visits and the staff are simple marvellous - nothings too much trouble.

There are still quite a few Thais who refuse to go there to meet you or for dinner due to its so called reputation.

July 4th, 2006, 05:09
yeah I know, have met many thais lokking at me like i am living in a whorehouse. Great staff, geath rooms, great if you comparre other hotels, well no complains here, i will stay there from 28 of september ;-)

July 4th, 2006, 11:58
use the patented Dodger DaVinci Code,
that's where you stick your tongue out and slowly wag it up and down 3 times. To the working boys up North, that means you want to be their friend.
Enjoy...

And if that doesn't work...try licking your eyebrows.
PS: Where's that movie theatre?

Edith, do you have a pic of you licking your eyebrows, it could open up a world of new friendships for you!