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lonelywombat
January 3rd, 2016, 08:49
Bitcoin is weathering changing fortunes better than the foundation set-up to promote it.
http://www.theage.com.au/business/marke ... lx3x4.html (http://www.theage.com.au/business/markets/currencies/the-final-days-of-the-bitcoin-foundation-20151230-glx3x4.html)
Bruce Fenton, executive director at the Bitcoin Foundation, opened its December 15 board meeting with a sense of urgency.

"We need additional funds if we wish to retain employees."

The numbers didn't look good. In two years, the foundation had seen at least $US7 million evaporate. As of November 30, its total assets stood at $US12,553.06.

To sustain the Bitcoin Foundation's operations, which have included lobbying, putting on conferences, and providing technical support for the digital currency, Fenton urged the group to find ways to raise money quickly. They considered cold- calling ex-members, and Fenton said he's working on marketing materials for prospective donors to explain the organisation's purpose. "There is no material saying what the foundation does," he said.


Eventually, Jim Harper, a board member and senior fellow at Cato Institute, a think tank, interjected. He questioned whether the foundation was offering its members enough value to warrant its existence, according to minutes released on December 21 from the meeting. "Asking for money is just throwing money away," Harper said. Olivier Janssens, another director, suggested that the organisation may not be "fixable."

A volatile symbol
The Bitcoin Foundation has become a symbol of the challenges facing the digital asset it was designed to steward. While advocates have promoted bitcoin as a global, decentralised currency for the internet age, it's proved to be more volatile than many penny stocks. Its role in money laundering and other illegal activity is a constant source of questions, and the price fluctuates with each regulatory clampdown or criminal investigation. In November 2013, it reached a high of $US1137 before falling to $US183 in January 2015 following a slew of problems, including the collapse of Mt. Gox, once the world's largest bitcoin exchange.

Beyond financial trouble, two former Bitcoin Foundation board members have been charged with crimes. Mark Karpel s, former chief executive officer of Mt. Gox, was arrested in Tokyo and charged with embezzlement in September. Charlie Shrem, former vice chairman of the Bitcoin Foundation, resigned before pleading guilty to helping launder money for transactions through the illicit online marketplace Silk Road. He's currently serving two years in a federal prison.

Several people still involved with the Bitcoin Foundation said the wounds may never heal. "I don't know if the foundation has a future," Gavin Andresen, a former board member who now holds the title of chief scientist, wrote in an e-mail. "It is very difficult to regain trust once trust has been lost, and the illegal behaviour of two of the foundation's former board members destroyed a lot of trust."

When the Bitcoin Foundation was formed in 2012, the group was intended to give legitimacy to a relatively unknown technology. By the end of that year, bitcoin traded at about $US13. The organisation grew almost in lockstep with the popularity of bitcoin. Comprising pioneering coders and entrepreneurs behind the digital currency, the Bitcoin Foundation would soon become a familiar face in Washington, spreading the gospel of bitcoin around the world.

US lawmakers and congressional committees appreciated having a central figure to represent bitcoin, but foundation members have sometimes become punching bags for politicians. At an event in 2013 attended by Andresen, who was appointed to lead bitcoin development by the anonymous creator, Satoshi Nakamoto, a Justice Department prosecutor compared bitcoin with child pornography, according to a report in the Washington Post.

Eager donations
Techies bought into the promises of bitcoin and were eager to donate to further its cause. At the end of 2013, the Bitcoin Foundation reported $US7 million in assets, according to meeting minutes. As demand for bitcoins rose, so did the value of the foundation's funds, much of which were held in the digital currency. In 2014, its ambitions began expanding with the addition of a lobbying operation in Europe.

Then things changed. By mid-2014, funds were down to $US4.6 million, and the burst of the bitcoin bubble that year took a toll on the foundation almost immediately. "I hired lobbying in Brussels in 2014, and then we scaled it right back because the money was gone," Harper said in an interview after the contentious December 15 board meeting. According to the minutes from that meeting, the organisation has cut its budget by 95 per cent from previous years. Its conference business now faces stiff competition from other events, such as Inside Bitcoins and Money20/20.

About a year ago, when bitcoin's price had fallen to about $US374, the foundation said it would discontinue public policy efforts and concentrate on providing technical development to bitcoin. The reason was simple: It didn't have the money to do both. "It thrived while the bitcoin price was rising, so it never put a plan in place to sustain it," Harper said. "When the price dropped, the foundation ran out of money. The last year has just been cutting costs, shrinking budgets, bringing things under control."

The pressure revealed the foundation's underlying weaknesses. Supporters were inexperienced at raising money, and until recently, few paid attention to expenses, Harper said. "They were spending thousands of dollars per month on Web services that would have cost a couple hundred," he said. Bobby Lee, a Bitcoin Foundation board member, referred questions about expenses to Fenton, who didn't respond to a request for comment. In a further e-mail, Lee acknowledged "budget and leadership problems in the past."

Board battles
Bitcoin has weathered hard times better than the foundation has. The price is back up to $US426. Venture capital firms have invested more than $US1 billion in bitcoin-related startups, according to research from CoinDesk. Finance and tech companies, including IBM, Overstock, Nasdaq, and the biggest banks, are experimenting with the technology for use in everything from money transfers and contracts to issuing stock. Coin Centre, a year-old organisation with backers such as BitPay, has staff in Washington developing bitcoin policy. There's also the Digital Chamber of Commerce, a trade association. Those two organisations recently formed the Blockchain Alliance to help law enforcement investigate criminal activity involving bitcoin's underlying technology.

Roger Ver, whose evangelism for the digital currency earned him the name Bitcoin Jesus, provided the Bitcoin Foundation with funds early on. An ex-convict who had been sentenced to 10 months in federal prison after selling about 14 pounds of explosives without a license on EBay, Ver said the foundation's demise, if it were to happen, wouldn't affect bitcoin. "There are lots of different bitcoin foundations, so the name may change, but the mission will carry on," he said. "I don't think it matters at all if the Bitcoin Foundation were to close. The Bitcoin Foundation laid the groundwork for the ecosystem that we have today."

But Lee is determined to resuscitate his organisation. "Despite the recent negativity about the Bitcoin Foundation, there are still many people who believe in the need for a global non-profit platform that advocates for bitcoin," Lee wrote in an email. "The past 18 months were tough for bitcoin and its entire ecosystem; I did not give up on bitcoin then, and I will not give up on Bitcoin Foundation today."

At the December board meeting, Lee suggested that dissenters should resign. "If someone does not want to be on that ship, they should step off the board," Lee said. After much debate, Janssens and Harper elected to dissolve the organisation, but they were out-voted by Lee and the two other directors.

By the end of the meeting, Harper agreed to step down, and Janssens was removed from the board. "None of this is personal," said Chairman Brock Pierce. The two ousted men were dismissed. "Don't thank me," Janssens said. "I was removed for a bulls--- reason."

On December 22, the Bitcoin Foundation said it appointed three new board members. The foundation is also considering a revised mission statement, with a focus on technical development, advocacy, and regulatory efforts. Finally, the board "voted to continue the existence of the foundation" and established an optional board seat for bitcoin's mysterious creator, "if and when Satoshi ever reveals him or herself."

Smiles
January 3rd, 2016, 09:07
This piece in The New Yorker [Aug 2015] paints a picture of semi-hoodlums at the gate ... the young greedy whippersnappers who run the octopus arms of Bitcoin. Good thing they are mostly incompetent and seem to have a gigantic predilection towards vicious [or as Bruce writes it; 'viscous'] infighting.

http://www.newyorker.com/business/curre ... ins-future (http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/inside-the-fight-over-bitcoins-future)

cdnmatt
January 3rd, 2016, 10:13
Just to quickly clarify, this has absolutely zero impact on bitcoin in and of itself. It's just the "Bitcoin Foundation", but nobody even really knows what those guys do, so if they go under, it hardly matters.

Smiles
January 3rd, 2016, 10:46
' ... it hardly matters .. '
I'm willing to bet it matters a lot to would-be investors or buyer/uses of Bitcoins themselves. There are dudes here who under indictment, under investigation, behind bars, and not an insignificant few.
I hear what you are saying about the 'difference', but I'm quite sure the board members of the Bitcoin Foundation being in such disrepute as a group is not at all good news for Bitcoin . . . and the nonsense surrounding anything to do with bitcoins just keeps on piling up.
The whole jag screams incompetence, and that's never an environment one wants to find himself in when it comes to investing in general.

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And this whole Bitcoin stuff should be in another Forum [Everything Else I guess]. It's got zero to do with Gay Thailand ... which LonelyW should have known when he posted this thread. Surfcrest ... to arms.

lonelywombat
January 3rd, 2016, 11:10
And this whole Bitcoin stuff should be in another Forum [Everything Else I guess]. It's got zero to do with Gay Thailand ... which LonelyW should have known when he posted this thread. Surfcrest ... to arms.

Every time I post something about the wrong forum I get abused, usually by you.
This forum have almost drowned by bitcoin debate. I thought it topical to post it here.

cdnmatt
January 3rd, 2016, 11:31
I'm willing to bet it matters a lot to would-be investors or buyer/uses of Bitcoins themselves.

Yeah, you would think that due to them having a catchy name like "Bitcoin Foundation", eh? But no, they don't matter. It's not like they got voted in or anything. It's just a group of people who decided to self-appoint themselves as leaders, gave themselves the catchy name "Bitcoin Foundation", and went out looking to raise funds.

They also have absolutely nothing to do with the development of Bitcoin Core (http://bitcoin.org/). That's a separate thing, and they have zero say over it.

If you want to guage how bitcoin is doing, you're far better off looking at what the VCs in Silicon Valley are doing, and how much funding they're investing in privately owned firms.

Smiles
January 3rd, 2016, 12:00
Every time I post something about the wrong forum I get abused, usually by you.
This forum have almost drowned by bitcoin debate. I thought it topical to post it here.
Wrong again Lonely old chap. The other threads in which bitcoin became an issue were originally started as gay Thailand threads. The Bitcoin events were pretty much BruceNY-generated [plus a little bit of cndmatt -- add in myself and others] and then went slightly crazy. This thread doesn't have even a tiny smidgen of Thailandishness.
Anyway, I think you are clearly exaggerating the word 'abuse' [as well as the word 'drowned']. Obviously you have never been truly abused in you life. And if you have, I'm quite sure you enjoyed every minute of it.

January 3rd, 2016, 12:28
Obviously you have never been truly abused in you life. And if you have, I'm quite sure you enjoyed every minute of it.Somewhat reminiscent of the Pork Bum episode in Absolute Power (http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/absolute-power/episode-3-season-1/tory-woman/391272/), perhaps?

scottish-guy
January 3rd, 2016, 18:51
With her Britannic Majesty's Prime Minister having recently been revealed to have stuck his millionaire's todger in the mouth of a dead pig (#piggate), you'd think our Daily Telegraph-loving Kommie would steer clear of any references involving "Tories" and "Pork"

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