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Aux1010
December 22nd, 2015, 13:02
Hi guys,

returned from my first trip to Bangkok / Pattaya a few weeks ago and thought I'd write a small trip-report, as I've really enjoyed reading the ones posted here previously.

A couple of prefaces first;

1) I'm probably not really your typical sex tourist in regards to age etc. I'm a 33 year old guy, average - OK looks (definitely on the 'straight / masculine' side; shaved head, beard, tattoos etc), just the typical sort of guy you'd see on the piss at your local rugby club with the boys (and yes, I'm from New Zealand if you were wondering about the rugby reference). I don't normally have much trouble picking up decent guys when at home, but have been busy with work over the last couple of years (and have also put on a bit of weight due to too much beer, lol, which has left me a bit self-conscious) so haven't been as 'active' as I used to; so Thailand just became a bit of a fantasy for an easy hook-up with cute guys (also, I'm very much into my East / South East Asian boys, so that are was a natural choice!).

2) I am quite a heavy drinker (and was on the piss pretty much every night I was there), so this report is going to be a bit more of a general gloss-over of my trip, as opposed to the day-to-day break-downs that are often posted, as my memory of 'some' nights is a bit hazy!

I arrived at Suvarnabhumi Airport in the early hours of 17/November and took a taxi to Silom, where I was staying at Le Vanvarothai Saladaeng Residence (on Soi Yommarat, off Saladaeng Road, which is off Silom Road, around the corner from Senso Massage), which I'd booked through AirBnB; about a 15ish minute walk to Soi Twilight. The place was nice enough, an apartment / condo style (big size too), which I prefer, as I like to be able to do my own washing etc and not get too much disturbance from house keeping etc. When I do visit again though, I will choose somewhere a bit closer to the action; even though I do like doing a lot of walking, I found it was just a little too far in the heat etc. No problems taking boys back (the night-time Security guy was asleep a lot of the time, and I also brought him a beer each time I'd come back in the early evenings, so we got on well, even when he was awake and I brought a boy or two back).

I had only planned to spend one week in Bangkok and then head to Pattaya, but I wanted to get some tattoo work done by a certain artist at BKK Ink and he wasn't available until my second week there, so ended up staying two weeks. I'm not a day person (at home I work solely night shifts), and me and the sun don't get on well (I burn VERY easily), so my general routine was to sleep during the day, wake up in the afternoon, go and get something to eat on Silom Road (either street-food or at a restaurant depending on my mood), go back to the apartment and have a 'few' beers then head into town.

I did the majority of my drinking on Soi Twilight. I know the prices are a bit ridiculous by Thai standards, but for me it was a long overdue holiday, and such a new experience (re: boy gogo bars etc), that I wasn't really too concerned about the money side of things. Regardless, where I live is quite expensive to go out drinking anyways, and at a lot of places you'd easily pay the equilivent beer price, but without hot naked boys, so it didn't seem too expensive!!

Mainly I'd just go and watch the shows at either X-Size, Dream Boys or Fresh Boys, then go and drink at Banana Bar and either off one of the boys from there or one of the boys walking past after finishing at one of the show-bars. As a first timer I definitely enjoyed the shows, as it was something very different from what's available at home, but to be honest I was expecting a bit more hard-core action (just based on previous post on the message boards, videos I've seen on-line etc), and I think I'd get sick of them fairly quickly. I did check out Nature Boys on one occasion, but found it a bit TOO small and as the only customer at the time felt like I was the one on show lol!! I also had a look at Screw Boys, which had some cute boys, but my trip there was the result of the advice of a lying mamasan, which kind of tainted the experience.

I am a bit of a fan of BDSM / spanking etc. A few of the guys I initially went with we did get into a bit of that (after seeking their permission first), but afterwards I could tell they really hadn't enjoyed it, so I ended up feeling bad for them and didn't try that again with future guys (just really doesn't seem to be a common fetish in Thailand like it is in a lot of European countries). Most of the guys I went with, we just got on the piss, then went home and slept together then played around the morning / afternoon when we woke up; which is my preferred sequence of events.

After two days getting my tattoo finished, two weeks had been enough Bangkok for me. The congestion, the smell, the pollution, the heat, not enough decent sleep and the excessive drinking had really just left me exhausted, so it was time to check out Pattaya.

I ordered a taxi through Pattaya Express Taxis; if I didn't have so much luggage (not that I had that much, but I didn't want to be dragging it around in the heat) I might have looked at a cheaper option, but for 1200 Baht I was happy. Easy on-line booking and very fast confirmation of the booking. The driver was waiting for me at the arranged time. I had booked a Camry, but ended up with a Fortuner for the same price. The driver was pleasant, but was pretty tired (had to stop for coffee at one stage, which I was fine with, but was just a little concerned that he might drift off to sleep while doing 120KPH!).

I was staying at the View Talay 6 (next to the Hilton / Central Festival), which I'd also booked through AirBnB. Nice and tidy place, but again just a little further than I would have preferred from BoyzTown etc (about a 15ish minute walk, which would normally be nothing...but in that heat it feels a lot further!).

I was really keen to see some hard-core shows, so on the suggestion of another poster I started at X-Boys. Show was OK, but nothing overly exciting...but then I met Soe (one of the Gogo boys, but not in the show). He'd been sitting next to me earlier in the night, and the mamasan had asked if I was interested and I said no thanks. But after a few more beers I noticed just how cute and intense his smile was, so invited him for a drink. He told me to wait until 2am, as that's when he finished work and that he would meet me at the 7/11 (so no off-fee, which was a bonus). So we met up there then went drinking at one of the bars on Walking Street. I did later discover that X-Boys do a fuck show later in the week (Thursday onwards?), and although it's fairly short, it's the only one I found during my trip.

After that he came back to my apartment. I wasn't too sure what the story was in regards to bringing guests back and really couldn't be fucked with having to sign them in etc (yes, I was well aware that if there were any 'issues' etc, that I'd have very little come-back if the guy hadn't provided ID, but on balance I was willing to take the risk). When we got to the lift the Security Guard motioned for us to stop, I just pressed the lift button and told him that Soe was my friend and it was OK / not to worry about it. He made a comment to Soe in Thai and I could tell by the look on his face / tone of his voice, and the look on Soe's face, that it wasn't a nice comment. I asked Soe to tell me what he'd said, but he wouldn't and was obviously embarrassed about what the Guard had said. At the end of the day, it was probably better he didn't tell me, as I'm not a small guy (6ft'2, 200 pounds), spent quite a few years working as a bouncer at some rough nightclubs, and after that many beers probably would have had a go at the Guard and got myself in trouble and / or arrested.

Soe stayed the night / till the next afternoon. When he went to leave I gave him money and he seemed somewhat surprised (although appreciative); so I'm still trying to figure out what his original intentions of going with me were?

The next night I was walking to X-Boys again, when I ran into Soe who was on his night off and had just been for dinner. We went drinking and ended up at BoyzBoyzBoyz for the 0030hrs show (he'd initially wanted to go to one of the cabaret shows, but I was still really fascinated with the boy shows!). The show was good, and erotic, with hot boys (young, fit, handsome, non-femme), but then there were WAY too much lady-boy acts, lip syncing etc (I did later discover that the 2230hrs show has all the hot boy antics, but without the lady-boys, so definitely more to my taste!). After the bars we got beers / whisky from the 7/11 and went and drank at the beach and listened to music until sunrise. Again he came back to my apartment (this time Security were busy signing in a guys girl and didn't even notice us). Soe had already said he didn't want any money for the night, he just wanted to sleep with me; still trying to figure him out!

Nearly every other night of the week we had the same routine, we'd meet at X-Boys around 2200hrs, we'd go drinking on Walking Street, then drinking at the beach, then back to my place to sleep and play around during the day. After a few nights Security didn't bother us anymore. We mainly drank in straight-bars on Walking Street, but we did on a couple of occasions go to Sunee Plaza. The first night we went to Eros. About three or four other customers, one giving a boy a hand-job on one of the couches (he was joined by another boy shortly after who he also started jerking off), and a couple of boys jerking off by themselves. Cheap drinks, but the place just felt (and smelled) dirty..smelled like a dirty locker-room. If I was quite drunk and alone and super-horny I could probably have had fun there, but with someone else (who seemed like a nice guy) it just felt wrong.

Another night we went to Power Boys, two other customers (who had a couple of boys sitting with them), but only a few other boys in the place. After the other customers left the boys had a small birthday celebration for one of the boys, which was cute to watch. Both of the above nights were a Thursday / Friday night, so was a little surprised at the lack of customers! X-Boys was the same, most nights only half a dozen customers on average. BoyzBoyzBoyz was the only place that actually seemed to get busy (and a fair proportion of customers were Japanese females). Just as a side not, my last Saturday night there was the King's Birthday. I was thinking everything might be closed, but Boyztown was pretty much open as normal, although Sunee was even quieter than the other nights, with a lot of places closed.

Anyways, so I don't want to say that I fell in love with Soe (not quite that stupid / naive)...but I was very sad to leave him after our week together and I do hope to see him again on any future trips. Arrived back home on 8/December (also used Pattaya Express Taxis to get to the airport; on-time and better vehicle than ordered again).

As a highlight, there has actually been a very positive outcome from my trip. As noted, I had been in a bit of a rut regarding seeing guys for the last couple of years due to work and being self-conscious about being a lot less in-shape than I use to be. Being in Thailand reminded me what I was missing in regards to spending time with guys and also gave me back a bit of confidence in regards to interacting / spending time with guys. So when I got back home I got myself back into the game and have met a really nice, cute, young Filipino guy who I've been seeing for the last couple of weeks. He has a good job and citizenship, so at-least I know he's not after something financial, and he seems to think I'm doing HIM a favour by spending time together (even though I let him know how much I enjoy spending time with him too!!).

Reading back, this has not been a 'short' report as I initially intended..but as also noted, the main reason I posted this was due to the fact I've really appreciated the trip reports generated by others, so wanted to try and contribute too!! It also seems like a fair bit is about me rather than Thailand, but again, it's the thought that counts, lol!!

Thanks to all that have had the patience to read this. Hopefully it's the first of many reports.... :)

Posted to both Sawatdee and Gaythailand boards, as I've found both useful.

dinagam
December 22nd, 2015, 15:00
A nice report.
Don't spare us the details & intimate adventures. ;)

a447
December 22nd, 2015, 15:06
Yes, "it's the thought that counts."

A wonderful report. A very enjoyable read. Thanks.

Jellybean
December 23rd, 2015, 11:14
Very interesting and highly personal trip report Aux1010. I liked your writing style. It was quite different from many of the trip reports IтАЩve read on this forum. Glad to read there was a very positive outcome and that your time in Thailand helped you regain some of your self-confidence. Hope it wonтАЩt be too long before we are reading your next trip report.

. . . The [taxi] driver was pleasant, but was pretty tired (had to stop for coffee at one stage, which I was fine with, but was just a little concerned that he might drift off to sleep while doing 120KPH!) . . .
Your account of the tired taxi driver reminded me of my journey to Bangkok from Pattaya just over a week ago. The driver arrived at my hotel around 07:45am and we left just before 08:00am. It wasnтАЩt long before I was concerned about his fitness to drive as he was yawning quite a bit. I asked if he was tired. He confirmed he was. Oh-oh! He told me he had woken up early and had already driven a customer to Suvarnabhumi Airport from Pattaya and had returned to pick me up. Crikey! I thought.

But there was nothing in his driving style which concerned me, so I relaxed and enjoyed the passing sights.

The driver drank, what I assume was an energy or caffeine based drink from time to time. At one point, it started to get rather warm and even I started to feel a little sleepy. So I suggested he turn up the air-con and added, in a humorous tone, that I didnтАЩt want him falling asleep. тАЬGood idea!тАЭ he said.

Then, IтАЩm assuming, in another attempt to keep him awake, the driver played a CD. ItтАЩs the first time I can recall a driver playing music. I prefer no background music. Then, to my horror, I heard . . .

Ag-a-doo-doo-doo, push pineapple, shake the tree
Aga-doo-doo-doo, push pineapple, grind coffee
To the left, to the right, jump up and down and to the knees
Come and dance every night, sing with a hula melody . . .

I kid you not, this actually happened. In my book, it was the worst possible song he could have played. Since he had never asked me if he could play the music, I didnтАЩt feel comfortable in asking him to turn off the damned noise.

Other irritating songs replaced Agadoo. So I feigned nodding off and made some disapproving noises. He took the hint and switched off the infernal noise. Ahhhhh . . . perfect peace and harmony was then restored and I continued to enjoy the journey back to Bangkok.

There was little traffic on the roads and we made it back to my condo without the slightest hint of any mishap. So, allтАЩs well that ends well, at least on this occasion!

neddy3
December 23rd, 2015, 11:40
There was little traffic on the roads and we made it back to my condo without the slightest hint of any mishap. So, allтАЩs well that ends well, at least on this occasion!

Pleased to hear that!

Dalewood
December 23rd, 2015, 16:39
Ag-a-doo-doo-doo, push pineapple, shake the tree
Aga-doo-doo-doo, push pineapple, grind coffee
To the left, to the right, jump up and down and to the knees
Come and dance every night, sing with a hula melody . . .

!

I never caught the words to that song---nice to read them. As I recall, it was quite popular among the go-go boys years ago.

bruce_nyc
December 24th, 2015, 17:39
Since he had never asked me if he could play the music, I didnтАЩt feel comfortable in asking him to turn off the damned noise.

Oh no no noooooooo.

I am the paying customer. The fact that he didn't even ask if he could play the music is all the *more* reason to feel comfortable TELLING him, "Excuse me. I need quiet. I need to relax and try to sleep. I want no music."

When you are the paying customer.... Feel a bit of the power you have.... Politely, of course. But TELL him what you NEED / WANT. Never be too shy to speak up. He won't be shy when asking to be paid.

svyturys
December 24th, 2015, 21:15
Soe stayed the night / till the next afternoon. When he went to leave I gave him money and he seemed somewhat surprised (although appreciative); so I'm still trying to figure out what his original intentions of going with me were?

Soe had already said he didn't want any money for the night, he just wanted to sleep with me; still trying to figure him out!

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Great report Aux1010. My trip to Thailand earlier this year was the first one for me, too.
I love reading trip reports on this forum, but yours was particularly interesting due to a simple reason: we both the same age. Majority of the guys on this forum are past 50 (as I realized from my experience in Pattaya) and it is often difficult to relate to their stories. I might be in a good physical shape, but then I'm not a big guy (Thais often find that attractive), so we are in a similar situation.
Don't be surprised that this boy did not ask any money. It means he seriously fancied you. Their clientele is almost exclusively much older guys and I doubt they enjoy that very much. You were a breath of fresh air for them as younger guys don't really frequent these establishments (at least not often). They human beings after all and the rules of nature apply here.
Before my trip to Asia (I visited several countries, not only Thailand), I was keen to try commercial gay scene, meaning offing a few boys, but the reality was totally different. There was no need for that. Guys were throwing themselves at me, especially in Singapore. I wasn't quite expecting this. You should have seen that cute European twink at DJ Station how he got swarmed by locals. It's a rule of supply and demand. A big dicked black guy would feel exactly the same in Europe.
I met a number of beautiful, young guys and none of them asked for money. Well, one asked for 150 baht taxi money, but can you actually refuse that?
Another thing I read on this forum, that receptionist in hotels demand to see joiner's ID. I brought back quite a few boys to different hotels in BKK and Pattaya, but not once were we asked to show the ID. It looks that this rule mainly applies when there is significant age difference between the two guys.
I absolutely enjoyed Thailand, even Pattaya, although the latter somewhat disappointed me as there was hardly anything for younger crowd. Hence why there weren't many of them. To rephrase the popular Coen brothers film: Country for old men. All the gay venues were commercial and in 5 days that I spent there I did not see anyone younger than 50, both in the gay venues and the gay beach in Jomtien. I have nothing against older guys as I prefer their company in conversations, for example, but I just felt a bit out of place. It seemed a bit odd to be 20-30 years younger than other punters.
Actually, in Thailand I experienced two extremes: in Pattaya everyone was much older whereas in Koh Phi Phi I felt like going back to my Uni days: I felt old there as majority of visitors on the island were under 25.

bruce_nyc
December 24th, 2015, 21:42
You're right, Svyturys. I've often wondered why there aren't more gay tourists in their 30s and 40s... especially in Pattaya. I realize that they can go to DJ station and have no problems getting almost any Thai guy in there.... and they can use Hornet, etc and get almost any Thai guy there too. But you just don't see many going to Pattaya.

Maybe it's because they don't need to. In Bangkok they probably feel like a kid in Charlie's Chocolate Factory. Every young hot gay Thai boy's dream.... to find a somewhat handsome ( or at least not too ugly ) younger farang guy to come and sweep them off their feet. And nowadays, the dream is becoming much *more* real... since there actually *is* a possibility that they can get married and even immigrate back to the farang's home country.... and live a life of their dreams.

svyturys
December 25th, 2015, 00:40
You're right, Svyturys. I've often wondered why there aren't more gay tourists in their 30s and 40s... especially in Pattaya. I realize that they can go to DJ station and have no problems getting almost any Thai guy in there.... and they can use Hornet, etc and get almost any Thai guy there too. But you just don't see many going to Pattaya.

Maybe it's because they don't need to. In Bangkok they probably feel like a kid in Charlie's Chocolate Factory. Every young hot gay Thai boy's dream.... to find a somewhat handsome ( or at least not too ugly ) younger farang guy to come and sweep them off their feet. And nowadays, the dream is becoming much *more* real... since there actually *is* a possibility that they can get married and even immigrate back to the farang's home country.... and live a life of their dreams.

Well maybe not any Thai guy as there is plenty of sticky rice there, but yeah, there's generally no need to waist your money on go go bars and pay for something that you can easily get for nothing. I suppose younger guys pop in to the commercial scene, but once their curiosity is satisfied after seeing a sex show or just simply gazing at boys in underwear, they move on. After all, those places are the cover for prostitution rather than entertainment.
I just felt there could be room for non-commercial gay scene in Pattaya that would attract younger visitors. As a gay tourist, I felt very welcome in the country, but outside of BKK there was no visible gay scene. I went to beer bars in Boyz town and Jomtien complex, but as I said earlier on, felt out of place.
I think Thailand needs a resort like Sitges or Mykonos where gay tourists of all ages could find what they looking for. Pattaya does not satisfy those needs.
When I opened my grindr on Koh Phi Phi, to my disappointment, I only found about 10 profiles on the whole bloody island with thousands of tourists. They were mainly young guys, and I met a couple and had a great sex on the beach, but surely there should be more gay people among those thousands of drunk 20somethings.

bruce_nyc
December 25th, 2015, 03:11
Prostitution *is* entertainment.... the best kind of entertainment!

But anyway... Why buy water when water bottles are free and unlimited in your hotel. I get that.

But what would make Pattaya a destination for younger gays? The beach isn't really nice enough to be the only draw... Is it?

Did you make it to the gay "discos" in Pattaya? NAB Men Club, Idol Club, etc...

Jellybean
December 25th, 2015, 11:01
Oh no no noooooooo.

I am the paying customer. The fact that he didn't even ask if he could play the music is all the *more* reason to feel comfortable TELLING him, "Excuse me. I need quiet. I need to relax and try to sleep. I want no music."When you are the paying customer.... Feel a bit of the power you have.... Politely, of course. But TELL him what you NEED / WANT. Never be too shy to speak up. He won't be shy when asking to be paid.
Crikey! Looks like youтАЩre saying, if IтАЩm reading you correctly Oliver Hardy, oops . . . I mean, bruce_nyc, that I need to man up, take control and donтАЩt be such a yoghurt knitting, Guardian reading, tree hugging, muesli munching, bed wetting, lily livered pinko liberal.

Ok, I promise to enrol in BruceтАЩs Boot Camp when you, and your husband to be, return to Thailand in the New Year.

Just hope I can pass the medical. :-B

bruce_nyc
December 25th, 2015, 13:14
We're still in Bangkok. We're expecting to go to the US around the first week in February. So we have plenty of time for the Boot Camp. What's a good day for the physical?

( I had to google Oliver Hardy. Isn't that sad. @-) )

svyturys
December 26th, 2015, 23:19
Prostitution *is* entertainment.... the best kind of entertainment!

But anyway... Why buy water when water bottles are free and unlimited in your hotel. I get that.

But what would make Pattaya a destination for younger gays? The beach isn't really nice enough to be the only draw... Is it?

Did you make it to the gay "discos" in Pattaya? NAB Men Club, Idol Club, etc...

Spot on with the water example, Bruce. But I still think there is a need for a gay resort in Thailand similar to Sitges or Mykonos that would appeal to broader crowd. My Singaporean friends told me that something like that is already developing in Taiwan, although it is only popular with other Asian visitors.