Kuala Lumpur report

[a447]

I arrived here after spending a few days in Penang, which is the most boring place I think I've ever visited. The best thing about it was the hotel. We wandered down a street near the hotel and I saw quite a few obviously gay couples wandering around. As my friends are straight, I could only take quick, furtive glances. It was a street with a number of bars - I wonder if they were gay bars? I never got to find out.

With nothing to do and nothing to see, we spent a lot of time around the pool. I sat there, sipping a cocktail and thinking how nice it would be to have a hot guy sitting there with me, or maybe coming up to my room - I could fuck him out on the balcony as he admired the ocean view.

After arriving in KL I ran into a bit of a problem at my hotel - the Capitol. The WiFi wasn't working in my room. I needed it to check out the gay places on the net. After wasting an hour trying to log on, I was beginning to panic - no internet = no fun. Eventually they found me another room and installed a router, and I was off and running.

The sauna, Thermos, and the old gay bar/disco, Blue Boy, are just around the corner. I wandered over to take a look, but the bar was closed. I thought about the sauna, but it doesn't seem very appealing according to the net.

So back to the hotel for some more research. I thought about a gay massage place - there were a few available but I had no idea where to find them, as I don't know my way around KL and it's a very big city. It was now 8:30 and desperation was setting in. I wandered back to Blue Boy but it was dead - not a customer in sight. That's it - I'll go to Otot-Otot sauna instead. The net highly recommended it. So I bought some condoms and lube and grabbed a taxi off the street.

He wanted 30 ringgit - about $11. Although I didn't have a clue how far it was, I thought it was too expensive and walked away. I accepted his offer of 20 ringgit.

The sauna is located down a small alley - Jalan Ipoh Kecil - off a main thoroughfare. As we took off a thunderstorm came through and it started pissing down. The taxi driver could find the alley and we spent ages driving around looking. I suggested he get out and ask someone, but he refused refused as it was still raining. So we drove around some more. And some more. I was getting pissed off as he was wasting time I could be spending on the sauna. I thought about giving up but it was getting late and I was close.

Eventually he pulled into a hotel and got directions. He dropped me off at the start of the alley and I had to walk down, looking for the indiscreet sign - the name on a small letterbox in the foyer of a building. I was getting absolutely soaked, but I was on a mission and didn't care.

I found the letterbox, went upstairs and paid 40 ringgit (you have to become a member on your first visit). The guy at reception was very nice and explained how things worked. After getting changed I wandered around. There were heaps of very hot guys sitting about, some coming naked out of the shower. I went into the showers to admire the guys. Wow! All young, slim and attractive Chinese guys. A couple of well-being guys, too.

Then upstairs to the dark maze. In some parts of the maze they have mattresses placed on raised diases - I could hear lots of moaning and grunting sounds - there was obviously a lot of sucking and fucking going on, but it was too dark to see anything.

Within in seconds of entering the maze, I bumped into someone, who immediately grabbed my cock. Suddenly, I was surrounded by a number of guys fighting to grab my cock and arse. OMG! Of course, I reciprocated. More cocks and butts than you could point a stick at. A few big ones - one guy had a huge pair of balls - but mostly just average size. But they were as hard as steel.

Some guy started giving me a blowjob and then suggested I get up on the dias and lie on my back - if you squat down guys tend to trip over you. I did as requested and he proceeded to blow me for about 20 minutes or so. When he could blow no more, another guy took over. While this was happening, a couple lay down beside me and started to fuck. Although I could clearly make out the top's cute butt pumping up and down, it was too dark to see much more. He fucked him forever, then stopped. I thought he'd cum, but he was just resting before continuing on again. The fuck lasted all the time I was being sucked.

I got down from the dias when I felt I was about to cum - way too early for that. I wandered around the maze, being groped every step of the way. One guy bent over for me to fuck him, but I told him I didn't have a condom. Well, I did, but they were in the locker, as there's no place to carry them on you. He suggested I fuck him bareback!!!! I asked around for a condom and thankfully, I was given one. (I didn't have any lube, but it didn't matter - the guys here all seem to apply heaps of lube before they come into the maze. Every butt I touched was already lubed up, ready for action.) I slipped it on to fuck, but the guy who gave me the condom basically indicted it was for me to fuck him. Fair enough. So he bent over and I did. As we were fucking, he moved towards the entry of the maze where there's a bit more light - not much - and we were surrounded by onlookers. Horny!! Guys were grabbing my nuts from behind and some guy stuck a finger up my arse. I think someone was sucking the guy as I fucked him, but I couldn't see. Whatever happened, the guy eventually came and the fuck was over.

Back to the boys in the maze. I was dying for someone to fuck me, but there weren't any condoms around. (That's the benefit of being versatile - sex doesn't finish once you've cum. You just roll over.) some guy got down on his knees and gave me yet another blow job. He asked me if I wanted to cum. It was getting towards closing time, and my cock had enjoyed one of its best workouts ever, so I decided it was time to cum and go. I came and then he stood up and kissed me. That's when I realised I'd cum all over his face. I could taste my own cum! Yuk! Yuk! This will be the first and last time that ever happens.(sorry, Joe!)

I caught a taxi back home - this time it was a metered taxi and only cost 8 ringgit - I'd been taken to the cleaners by the first taxi...lol - and went out for a bite to eat. In my short wanderings, I was offered 3 ladies - in the yuk factor, as about as distasteful as tasting your own cum - and was approached by 4 guys. One was very fem, but the others were quite attractive. But my cock had well and truly given up the ghost.

Lots of fun to be had in KL! Off to the sauna again tonight.

[joe552]

Well it will come as no surprise that I'm shocked and appalled, a447. You were ripped off by a taxi driver? In Asia? Can this be true? :-o

I visited sauna's here in Dublin when I first came out (back in the 80s) and really didn't enjoy them. Not a moral thing, just personal feeling. As the saying goes, different strokes...

I do enjoy reading your reports, so keep it up (as much as you can).

One has to assume that a447 isn't into felching if he thinks there's a yuk factor to tasting one's own cum.

[joe552]

Kommie, I'm sure I'm not the only one who had to look up the word "felching". Yuk factor certainly applies to me. Although I'd be surprised if a447 was one of those teenagers who didn't taste their own cum? I know I did, but that was before I became a prude.

Although I'd be surprised if a447 was one of those teenagers who didn't taste their own cum.I think you're making a very bold assumption there that a447 is in any sense of the word "normal".

The dedicated felcher, having felched , often kisses the felchee passionately thus, as it were, sharing the love.

[a447]

It was 5:30 pm - time to plan the evening's activities. My cock had taken such a beating last night - over 2 hours of non-stop sucking, groping and wanking -I still hadn't recovered. I was actually thinking of having a night in, as I didn't feel up to it, do to speak. But then I thought, I might as well make good use of the opportunity, so back I went to Otot-Otot. Following the local practice, I lubed up before I went.

As expected, it wasn't as crowded as the previous night. I walked into the maze and it took a couple of minutes for first contact to be made, whereas last night I was immediately set upon and grabbed from all angles. It was also difficult to walk through the maze - it was like Tokyo Station during rush hour. But tonight it wasn't so much of a problem. But still, there were lots of guys standing around.

Within the first half hour or so I got a couple of really nice blowjobs and a couple of fingers up the arse - mind you, not at the same time. Two guys got up on the dias and started fucking but it was too dark to see much. I was dying to find a guy to fuck me, so I also lay down on a mattress. Suddenly, someone was on top of me. He gave me a short blowjob while sticking a finger up my arse. Then I felt his cock trying to enter me. WTF? He was trying to bareback me. I asked him if he had a condom, but he didn't. He played with my cock a bit and then left, only to be replaced by another guy who also tried to bareback! What on earth are these guys thinking?? I guess that's what happens when saunas are banned from supplying condoms.

I was spoilt by last night's action so decided to cum with the next guy who grabbed me and have an early night. Things were a bit slow - I seemed to be meeting the same bunch of guys.

Then I met him. A small guy with a big cock. He was very passionate and started kissing me. He dragged me onto a mattress and gave me the most exquisite blowjob, and then said he wanted to fuck me. But he didn't have a condom.

"No condom ok."
Yeah, right!

So I told him to wait while I went down to the locker to get one. He followed me down and then insisted he fuck me in the toilet. Whatever. Although the mattress would have been more comfortable. This was the first time I'd actually seen his face, and he was quite attractive; late 20's I'd guess. Hard to tell. His cock was cut - he's Muslim - and rock-hard. Close to 18 cm, but not very thick. Even so, it was a bit painful, especially as I hadn't applied more lube.

After wed finished - neither of us had cum - we went back upstairs for another round, but this time I just wanted a blowjob. I warned him I was about to cum, but he took it in his mouth! He then wanted to kiss me, but after last night's experience, I politely declined.

We went down to the lockers where I got changed. He wanted to sit and talk. He still only had his towel around him and as we spoke he sat cross-legged on the seat and put my hand on his cock. I asked him what the sauna was like during the week and he said it was very quiet. He asked me lots of personal questions, including what my job was. Normally, I keep that to myself, as it tends to elicit too many questions for some reason. And that's exactly what happened - the entire conversation from then on revolved around my job. I wanted to talk about other things. Silly old me. Time to leave.

He was desperate to meet me again - said he wanted to come to my hotel tomorrow for sex. He assured me he could stay the night. But somehow I got the impression that maybe, just maybe, he was a money boy. He was saying all the right things - "You so handsome...you have big cock...I like older men...yada yada " Now, where have I heard that before? Lol

I may have completely mis-judged him, but I don't think so. I'll never know as I won't be seeing him again.

Back in town I went for a walk and was only offered sex by two guys, both of whom were very fem.

So, probably no sauna tomorrow. I may see if I can get a massage or even head over to Blue Boy to see if I can grab a cute guy to bring back to my room.

Here's hoping.

[danny99]

The sauna, Thermos, and the old gay bar/disco, Blue Boy, are just around the corner. I wandered over to take a look, but the bar was closed. I thought about the sauna, but it doesn't seem very appealing according to the net.
It was now 8:30 and desperation was setting in. I wandered back to Blue Boy but it was dead - not a customer in sight .

Thermos used to be fantastic until the police made them turn all the lights on. Maybe Otak-Otak pays the bribes?

Blue Boy only works Fridays and Saturdays and then mainly after 12.00 midnight...and when it works it really works, they dark alleyway from the end of the bar to the toilets is one constant grope, the long wall urinal is for openly viewing and the cubicles are inhabited more often by two.

The classy disco/bar is upstairs at Frangipani on Friday nights. Downstairs is probably one of the most amazing fine dining French restaurant [no doubt there are other such places elsewhere in the world with maybe better food, but here the whole experience is wow!]

My other favourite is the Vietnamese Sao Nam, entr├йe of Tiger Prawns with mangosteen and a main to die for, Duck Breast stewed in tamarind. The fact that the waiters [Burmese and Viet] are very cute and very friendly only helps the digestion [sometimes also seen at the Frangipani late Friday nights]. Both restaurants in Bukit Bintang, the ONLY area for the gay tourist to stay...best value Le Apple, next door to Thermos and across the road from Blue Boy.

Shopping centres are incredible, busy every day and manic Sunday afternoons...particularly the one you reach via the overhead railway bridge at the Bukit Bintang monorail station...veering to the right not the left, at the end of walkway.

Prohibition always increases activity...I recall Sydney in the old illegal days, everyone did it just no one talked about it.

I recall Sydney in the old illegal days, everyone did it just no one talked about it.Understatement that leaves much to the imagination - so much better than outright porn, don't you think?

[a447]

so much better than outright porn

Is this the same "porn " you spend your time reading on this forum? The same "porn " you even showed to a " literary colleague?"

Kommie shoots himself in the foot...again! Lol

Danny, thanks for that valuable information. I will head across to Sao Nam tonight for dinner - I'll order the dishes you recommend.

And I'll poke my head in Blue Boy afterwards but from what you say, I won't be expecting any excitement.

From what I gather, sex only takes place on weekends. Given the frenetic activities at Otot-Otot on Saturday night, I can understand why!

[a447]

I just got back from dinner at Sao Nam and a stroll along the street looking for someone to "entertain" me, but I guess even the rent boys only work on the weekend! I then went past Blue Boy bar, bbar as expected, there wasn't a customer in sight.

Oh well, I'll have an early night. I'll do a "Kommie" and stay in....lol

Danny, thank you for recommending that restaurant. The prawn and mangosteen dish was off the menu - the fruit is apparently out of season - so I chose a mince beef pattie dish. It comes with veggies and noodles and you wrap it up black pepper leaves and then dip it in fish sauce and chilli. Awesome! I also ordered the tamarind duck and it did not disappoint. I usually stay away from duck as it can be too fatty, but this duck was lean and tender and absolutely delicious.

The waiters are indeed very cute, but it was hard to get a smile out of them. Mind you, they were run off their feet tonight.

I've dropped into a number of the local shopping centres when thunderstorms hit. Sunday was very busy - filled with the trendy and spendy - but most people were just wandering about and the shops were empty. Except for Louis Vuitton, of course. Prices seem a lot cheaper than back home. There was heaps of eye candy, but most of the handsome guys were walking hand in hand with their burka'd beauties (I'm guessing here!)y

So, for the first time on this trip, no sex for me tonight. Never mind, I've just had a message from my Pattaya guy - р╕Ьр╕бр╕Ир╕░р╕гр╕нр╕Д р╕▒р╕Ъ - which google translate tells me means "I can't wait." can't wait for my money, that is! So I need to rest before the full-on fucking starts on Wednesday.

Oh, and Kommie, all your attempts to score points have failed miserably so far and you've merely ended up with egg on your face. Your attempt above was particularly desperate. So I'll tell you what I'll do - just for you. I'll make a post a bit down the track in which I'll plant an erroneous "fact" for you to pounce on and score your desperately desired point. Ok, it'll be a fake point, but considering your attempts so far, I guess it'll be better than nothing.

So there you go - something to keep you busy. Keep an eye out for it!

I'm only here to help.

Lol

[fountainhall]

I am glad to hear otot2 is still thriving. I had heard on one grapevine it had closed. I was staying with friends in KL soon after it opened and we all joined that first week. When I returned some years ago, the receptionist had never seen such an early membership number before :-o

Thermos used to be a lot of fun in the early evenings. Pity about those police raids but they do seem to happen with reasonable regularity in KL.

[a447]

My last night in KL.

I went back to Sao Nam restaurant for dinner - incredibly delicious - and then stepped out into a thunderstorm, so I'm doing a Kommie - decided to stay in tonight (rather than wander along the main street in search of a "friend.")

The Muslim guy I met at the sauna has been emailing me all day after a hook-up but I decided not to reply.

I'm staying at the Capitol Hotel. It only has one thing going for it - location. It's right in the midst of the tourist zone, so there are plenty of restaurants, shopping malls, bars, et. Everything else sucks.

Firstly, the wifi Is shit. Not only is it difficult to connect, once logged on you only get dial-up speed at best. That explains why the lobby is full of guests on their devices - WiFi only worfor there. The hotel told me on Saturday that they'd call in a technician to solve the problem for me, but no one turned up. Last night they told me to expect him at 11am this morning. Another no-show. He finally arrived at 8pm tonight. Now I have a connection but it is very slow.

Then I've been having lots of problems with the card used as a key and to operate the lift. I often find myself unable to unlock the door. But worst of all, it sometimes doesn't work in the lift. Twice I have put in the card, the door has closed but when I pushed the button for the ground floor, nothing happened - I was trapped inside the lift! It took numerous attempts until it was accepted.

Thirdly, the staff are very pleasant but can't do anything. I needed to print off my boarding pass so I emailed it to them. But I was given the wrong email address. I finally succeeded, but it took all slo just to get it printed. And every time I told them the WiFi wasn't working, they'd click around on the computer and tell me the problem was solved. But it never was.

Fourthly, the toilet doesn't flush properly - you have to stand there holding down the button. And the shower floods.

And this is the only hotel I've ever stayed in where the cleaning staff knock on your door on the morning asking if they can start work.

Other than that, it's fine....lol

So, KL as a gay destination. Hmm....as mentioned before, the action seems to be limited to Fridays and the weekend. Unless you include those days in your itinerary, you'll have a very lean time.

There isn't a lot to do or see here; well, not for me. I've seen enough temples, waterfalls and caves to last a lifetime, but it's great if you're into shopping (which I am - hey, I'm gay!) and the food is incredible. Oh, and the people are very friendly - perhaps a little too friendly in the sauna..lol

So I'll definitely be back, even if just for 3 nights of fun.

Pity about those police raids but they do seem to happen with reasonable regularity in KL.That must be a bit of a risk for the closeted foreigner, surely?

[fountainhall]

That must be a bit of a risk for the closeted foreigner, surely?
You hear of these raids on various websites but rarely of anyone being actually detained.

[a447]

There are also warnings on the net regarding being caught with condoms, should a raid ever occur. That may be why they guys don't have them, although I think it has more to do with the fact that there's no way to carry them on you.

Hmm...that begs the question - where was the guy who gave me the condom carrying it? I shudder to think!

Otot-Otot would be known to the police, as it's the most popular sauna in KL. So is the sauna paying bribes, as Fountainhall suggested, to continue to operate with the lights turned off? If they are paying the cops, then why don't they supply condoms and lube on the premises? Given that the sauna is hidden away in a non-despcript building at the end of a small alley, perhaps the cops are still looking for it...lol.

One thing's for sure - on my next visit I won't be sucking cock. The guy may have just fucked bareback, as seems to be the norm there. I don't recall ever seeing guys bareback in a sauna and it was very confronting. And incredibly stupid. Do they bareback in Babylon?

Also, the guys are not averse to having guys cum in their mouth, so no more kissing. One guy who had just taken a load turned to me and started giving me a blowjob. I politely declined. Yuk! It was too dark to see if he spat or swallowed, but in either case, I wasn't going to stick my cock in his mouth.

[christianpfc]

Great reports! My experiences in Kuala Lumpur in Jan 2010 were rather disappointing, and smoking in disco and sauna was disgusting!

Where to carry condom and lube in a sauna:

stick it under your underwear (works fine with briefs for me, wouldn't work with boxers)
I remember Sun City in Paris has a locker key with a bracelet that your wear around your wrist or ankle and that has a pocket for condom and lube

Regarding kissing someone who just sucked cock: did you know about 'snowballing'?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowballin ... ractice%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowballing_%28sexual_practice%29)

(How can I put the link under a text?)

[a447]

Smoking in Otot-Otot is limited to an outdoor area upstairs as far as I could see.

The guys don't wear briefs, just a towel. I like the Sun City idea, but I get the feeling nobody wants to be caught with condoms should there ever be a raid. Otherwise, I'm sure the sauna would find some way out of the problem.

And yes, I've heard of snowballing. Not for me, I'm afraid.

[aussie_]

There is a IT Mall, Low Yat Plaza adjacent to the Captiol Hotel where you can buy a sim card and internet which is not expensive and saves you relying on the hotel's internet service. Some of the hottest twinks in KL are also working there, well worth a browse just for the eye candy. There are many willing guys on the apps but you need to sift through the many messages from guys who do not read profiles and have no regard for your preferences. Money boys mostly from the Philippines and Indonesia are available but there are many locals for free that I have found to be nice guys and better fun.

I stopped using sauna dark rooms because of the unsafe practices. The last sauna that I visited was Rainbow in Taipei and the bare backing that was going on in the dark room was the norm there. They will try and push your cock into their ass before you have time to put on a condom, reject you if you want to use a condom. Also, the symptoms of HPV and other stds are not always visible but if possible I want to see the ass and cock that I am playing with.

We went there together when we holidayed in KL in January but as a447 has a poor memory I'm not surprised he has forgotten. There are even times when he forgets we holidayed together and asserts it never happened. Sad really. Early onset Alzheimers?

[Brad the Impala]

We went there together when we holidayed in KL in January but as a447 has a poor memory I'm not surprised he has forgotten. There are even times when he forgets we holidayed together and asserts it never happened. Sad really. Early onset Alzheimers?

I remember children who used to invent imaginary friends. As they get older they appear to invent imaginary travelling companions.

I remember children who used to invent imaginary friends. As they get older they appear to invent imaginary travelling companions.What an interesting life you lead. Have you come across many closeted homosexuals and their imaginary life?

[a447]

what an interesting life you lead.

That's a bit rich, coming from you!

Lol

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[a447]

Gee, Kommie, that was a quick reply!

I thought I was on your Foes list.

Lol

[joe552]

I think you two should get a room - if you haven't already =P~

I think you two should get a room - if you haven't already =P~We did try that once Joe but his snoring was something no one should have to endure more than one night.

Did I mention the farting?

[Brad the Impala]

I think you two should get a room - if you haven't already =P~We did try that once Joe but his snoring was something no one should have to endure more than one night.

Did I mention the farting?

What an interesting life you lead. Have you come across many closeted homosexuals and their imaginary life?

What an interesting life you lead. Have you come across many closeted homosexuals and their imaginary life?Of course - but then it's clear I lead a far more interesting life than you.

[danny99]

My last night in KL.

I went back to Sao Nam restaurant for dinner - incredibly delicious - I'm staying at the Capitol Hotel. It only has one thing going for it - location. It's right in the midst of the tourist zone, so there are plenty of restaurants, shopping malls, bars, et. Everything else sucks. Firstly, the wifi Is shit. Not only is it difficult to connect, once logged on you only get dial-up speed at best

I am glad you like Sao Nam, it is one of my favourite restaurants anywhere in the world and I go to restaurants 2,3 or even 4 times a day [it is also my business as I have restaurant web sites]...the cute and very friendly waiters are just a free extra...I always get there pre opening [which is 7.00] sit in the front garden with a glass of wine before the kitchen opens and at that time I can chat to Justin and friends before the mob begin to arrive.

Next time in KL treat yourself to a more expensive meal at Frangipani one night [best Fridays then you can go upstairs at no extra charge to KL's classiest gay venue, well 50/50 gay which only adds to the excitement and intrigue]...for me Frangipani is one of the nicest fine dining restaurants in the world. There may well be better food at other places but for me the whole package works!!! Food, waiters and sensational design. French food and a young sommelier from Pakistan, now that is different.

[Nirish guy]

Just a quick update re KL as I've just arrived here - Capitol hotel, fine, wifi good now ( in my room at least anyway) BUT re KL in general be aware that they are doing major pipe laying work bang in the centre of Bukit Bintang and its a real nightmare even finding a crossing point to make it across the road in one piece and accordingly depending which side of the street you're on the place looks a bit dead behind all the hoardings they've put up) - but it's not, well anymore than usual as its now 12.30am and I'm in blue boy and to say it is dead atmosphere wise would be an understatement :-(

[a447]

It was like that when I was there and I think it won't be finished until next year sometime.

BTW, I'm doing a lot of pipe laying myself here in Phnom Penh.

[Nirish guy]

Well I'm glad one of us is keeping the side up as I ( happily) came home alone last night, went to blue boy and it was DEAD, hardly any customers and those that there were not a single one as much as looked at me, I was happy enough as I was shattered after flying in and was due to meet a far and friend on there at 1.30am and Sod's law after seeing a cute www guy sitting alone all night and without having as much as one drink in front of him me genuinely just being nice offered him a drink while I was waiting on my friend and you'd of thought I'd just told him I was about to have him shot as he gave me a firm NO and scampered to the other end of the bar !!! See, this is what happens when I don't have my lucky aftershave with me !!

But on the up side WOW as it seems that if by some mistake if one comes home sober from the bars after a night out when away and then gets up before 10am the next morning that hotels prepare you something called "breakfast" complete with chefs in fancy hats making omelettes for you ! Who knew eh !! Hell its almost enough reason to come home sober more often - no, actually scrub that last part !

To be fair though there's plenty of action both MB and not here online so I'll not be stuck, but as I'm flying to bali on Monday in actually not even that bothered ..... Shit, I must be coming down with something !! :-(

Oh and what I assumed was pipe laying is them apparently building an underground railway connection, with work expected to last FIVE YEARS ! That would definitely affect whether is coming back here for a while perhaps as its as ugly as sin :-(

[dinagam]

This month is Ramadan whereby Moslem gays take time off to repent. Expect reduced gay activities in majority Moslem locales.

[Nirish guy]

Yes thanks I was reminded of that same fact last night by my friend, well, they can repent all they want but I intend to sin enough over the next month that it'll take me the next 11 months just to get my repenting started and underway !! :-)

[a447]

Yeah, but I think the otot2 sauna should be ok. After all, they shouldn't be having gay sex in the first place. The Muslim guy who fucked me in the sauna said he felt guilty but couldn't help himself.

Nirish, have you been there yet? Just remember to keep a firm hold of the family jewels when you enter the dark room, or they'll be ripped off....lol. My god, those guys were aggressive. When you do go, cos I know you will - don't forget to do a write-up.

I thought about flying down to KL just for the weekend fun, but it's too much of a hassle for such a short time. BTW, it's good to hear the Capitol Hotel has sorted out its WiFi problems, especially as you use social media so much for your hook-ups . No more sitting down in the lobby with a hard-on, trying to get a decent signal.

[Nirish guy]

Ah you had to go and say it didnt you ! As of course after me saying all was good with the wifi last night this morning it's up and down like a whores knickers !! When it's up its "ok", a little slow but no worse than other hotels but it's dropping way to often, to be fair it's reconnecting again maybe 30 seconds later but that drop is enough for me phone to then jump over to my local SIM and all that back and forwards eats up time - not the end of the world and not worth not staying here for but it is a slight annoyance there's no doubt.

And the sauna no I haven't been, I'm going to head round to thermos just for a look perhaps, someone told me it was now closed but I see their website is back up and running, so I'll maybe call in just for board research purposes :-)

[danny99]

BUT re KL in general be aware that they are doing major pipe laying work bang in the centre of Bukit Bintang and its a real nightmare even finding a crossing point to make it across the road in one piece and accordingly depending which side of the street you're on the place looks a bit dead behind all the hoardings they've put up) --(

They are actually building an MRT, same as Singapore and Bangkok, when finished it will be great!

[danny99]

went to blue boy and it was DEAD, hardly any customers and those that there were not a single one as much as looked at me, -(

Not sure which night or what time you went there but I have found that it only works Fridays and Saturdays, and then only from 11.00 onwards, a little on Sundays, zero the rest of the week even with cheaper drinks.

[Nirish guy]

Yeah being aware as you say of the low attendance at times I intentionally avoided the low times and my visit was from midnight to 3am on a Friday night :-( So, if it wasn't busy then ( Ramadan excluded I guess) I dint know when it will be).

I don't know, I've been there a few times now and there's just nothing about the place I like, it's just grotty and dirty ( and not in a good way) and over priced for what it is :-(

I'm always amazed that government hassles aside that no one in KL opens a modern clean and popular gay bar here as there's no doubt that when looking around the other venues there obviously is some level of gay crowd here with a seeming high enough level of disposable income to blow so you would think even one other middle of the road bar / restaurant would find their niche.

The problem with Moslem boys during Ramadan isn't that they give up sex - Ramadan isn't the equivalent of the Christian Lent - but they give up everything during daylight hours, sex included, which means that their blood sugar is so low in the afternoon all they really want to do is rest. Then in the evening there's the obligatory partying and, especially, gorging themselves with food. I have had excellent sex with Moslem boys during Ramandan, you've just got to pick your moment. The ones who think Ramadan's a waste anyway are quite happy to snack during the afternoon but not in public - those signs in Moslem areas about "No food for Moslems during daylight in Ramadan" aren't there for your edification, they're to make the backsliders feel guilty.