christianpfc
October 29th, 2013, 17:32
Are most Thai boys retards?
A provocative title, and I wonтАЩt get new friends with this post, but I mean it exactly as I wrote it. Anyway, itтАЩs a question and not a statement, so feel free to answer тАЬnoтАЭ and let me know why. I use тАЬretardтАЭ to collect all these тАЬWhat the fuck?!тАЭ moments I have when I try to meet Thai boys (too late, wrong place, phone battery empty, doesnтАЩt tell me something important he knew hours ago and many more, I lost count). More precisely тАЬAre most Thai boys I have contact with retards?тАЭ, and I would like to hear otherтАЩs stories too.
Just when you think it gets better (last month, one boy about 5 km away, efficient communication in English, acceptable delays but it seems now we are drifting apart, anyway having so-so sex тАУ but promising! - on two of six meetings is a poor yield; and another boy, efficient communication in Thai, acceptable delays, but one meeting failed тАУ there must have been miscommunication) there is a row of problem cases.
But first some cases from earlier this year that I vividly remember.
There was one boy I met in February this year. He was 1 hour 50 minutes late (I remember exactly because not long before I had another boy who was 1 hour 50 minutes late, but I donтАЩt remember details of that encounter). He stayed in On Nut, we met at MBK, so I thought skytrain would be the fastest way to get there, he took bus or van or whatever that caused part of the delay. Meeting point was Naai In Books in MBK, he went to Asiabooks in Siam Paragon. When he called me that he is in the bookshop now, and I couldnтАЩt see him, I gave up and thought this is a lost case and he is just playing with me. I had a last look at a book I had missed before (thatтАЩs why I choose a bookshop, I can spend one or two hours there), and when I left, he just arrived. It was a matter of 30 seconds and we would have missed. Only then I found out that he went to the wrong bookshop.
The largest delay I ever had was 6 hours. That was in January 2010. I gave up after 3 hours and continued my schedule as if nothing had happened, then after 6 hours he called тАЬI am here now. Where are you?тАЭ. One of these cases with poor pictures on gayromeo, he turned out not to be my type. I now pass profiles with poor pictures. About 4 out of 5 donтАЩt pass my requirements for a clear facepic. It canтАЩt be that difficult to post one, just one single picture that is in focus, not too dark, that shows your face without sunglasses (unless you are a retard, than this is a major challenge).
Two months ago, an acquaintance on Grindr, we then moved to Line and he wanted to come to my place (at least I thought so). Nearing the time we agreed upon, I ask where he is: тАЬI think we can meeting tomorrow? Rain now littleтАЭ. (I love Line. You have a written record, with times. So I know I am not imagining things.) When you have exchanged a few hundred messages and tried ten times to set up a date without success, this is probably a hint that there are evil forces in the universe that donтАЩt want us to meet.
I went to see a friend on Koh Si Chang over a weekend. I have met him about five times, every time everything was fine. He said he would go to Bangkok the following week for five days to attend some training course. We discussed long where we could meet in Bangkok, I suggested Asiatique as it is close to his accommodation in Bangkok (Rama 2 / Ratburana). On Wednesday (his first day in Bangkok), I write on Line asking where he is and when he would like to meet. The message was read, but no reply. I interpreted this correctly: something is wrong. So I call later in the afternoon, he picks up, says hello and then hands the phone to his mother (?) who tells me that he is not in Bangkok at the moment. I give up. I doubt I will get an explanation next time we meet, but I will carefully try to elucidate what went wrong.
Last week a boy on gayromeo, we exchange phone numbers. I am free on Wednesday afternoon (holiday, 23rd of October) and call him. Meet in half an hour (my suggestion) at BTS Chong Nonsi (his suggestion). I arrive and cannot get him on the phone. I call every five minutes for half an hour, then I leave. Some days later, message on gayromeo: he lost or broke his phone. I assume he didnтАЩt come to Chong Nonsi, the station is too big to meet there without specifying a place where exactly to meet.
Last weekend in Pattaya. I had written on gayromeo with a boy who has an interesting profile, our chat was promising. I wrote I would be free on Saturday early afternoon. (I wrote this twice, on Thursday and on Friday.) When I called him on Saturday around noon, he said he would be leaving Pattaya now to take bus back to his home province to continue university. So we missed. Going back to his home province to continue studying isnтАЩt a spontaneous decision, I assume. ItтАЩs getting rarer and rarer that I read a profile and look at the pictures and think тАЬThis one is different!тАЭ, only to be disappointed: different boy, same problems.
At the same time, I was online on gayromeo and an old acquaintance wrote to me (we didnтАЩt have contact for about two years). He wants to meet. I suggest Tuk Com (because I can spend an hour there without getting bored). He agrees and would meet me there in 15 to 20 minutes. 30 minutes later, I call him and he asks me to come to TonyтАЩs Fitness because he has many friends around Tuk Com and doesnтАЩt want to be seen there (I didnтАЩt ask why). I had mentioned Tuk Com and the Se-ed bookstore at least three times in written or spoken form. So I walk to TonyтАЩs Fitness (about 10 minutes). Did you think he is there, waiting for me? Really? No, it takes another three phone calls and 10 minutes waiting until he arrives on a motorbike taxi. He tells me to jump on and off we drive (my head the highest point, no helmet, my knees the outmost points) for about 30 minutes into the darkest part of the Eastern side of Sukhumvit (I didnтАЩt know that there is that much Thai and even Farang live!). The fare was 350 Baht (he paid, that must have included other trips as my return trip was only 120 Baht and 22 minutes). I must point out that I mentioned тАЬletтАЩs talk firstтАЭ when we chatted, hopping on a motorbike and driving half an hour to a place I donтАЩt know is not my style. He was very horny, I played along, it was so-so, there is potential.
An acquaintance from Camfrog from Hat Yai comes to Bangkok (we had a few times camsex тАУ IтАЩm not a fan of camsex, but better than wanking alone when I was in Europe тАУ but never met in real life). I call him Monday afternoon. He picks up, connection is poor, suddenly interruption. I call again, he tells me he is busy and hangs up (I get that from time to time, no goodbye, they just hang up before everything is said so I have to call again, or there is background noise and the connection slips after a few seconds). Then in the evening some calls I make donтАЩt get through, others with very poor connection or just background noise, I give up. There are evil forces in the universe that donтАЩt want us to meet. It was actually he who wrote to me on Skype that he would come to Bangkok, so I assume he wants to meet.
You could think the Thai mobile network is the problem, but I never had these problems when I called Farang friends.
The boy from the second paragraph, make that two meetings failed. I am getting better at detection when тАЬyesтАЭ means тАЬnoтАЭ. There are communication problems (in Thai), I think he will come to my place, but he will not. I donтАЩt understand everything he says, but I leave with the thought тАЬThat didnтАЩt sound enthusiastic, I would be very surprised if he actually came to my placeтАЭ. I could go to Sanam Luang where he works, and then to a short time hotel, but if I pay for taxi anyway, why do I always have to do the driving, and then pay for short time hotel? Next time I will meet him there and ask about his work conditions to see if there is a day and time when he can come to my place (he did once so far, and I went to see him two times). It works out like this: I go to Sanam Luang (150 Baht) and back 150 and pay for short time room 200, or I give him 500 which allows him to come to my place 150 and go back to his place 150 and leaves him 200. My expense is the same, but I can wait in the comfort of my home and spend two hours doing something useful instead of traveling through Bangkok. (Before someone shouts тАЬItтАЩs all about the money!тАЭ it is not, it is about who is traveling to meet for a sex date.)
I stopped counting, the list could go on for pages, it is more the standard then the exception.
Wait, I have another one! On my second visit to Thailand, I went with a Thai friend from my first holiday to ICK (at that time I didnтАЩt know where it is). He got drunk (at my expense) and then he disappeared. He was just gone and I was left out there alone, not knowing where I am, nobody speaking English! What a luck there are taxis! This is more a case of irresponsible behavior than being a retard.
And boys who change their phone numbers, why? I lost one German mobile phone number and one Thai mobile phone number because they expired, but only because I was not living in that country permanently. And empty battery? Can happen, but it never happened to me until last Saturday, where I was left for 15 minutes with a phone with empty battery, the first time since I started using mobile phones twelve years ago.
All the cases cited above were non-moneyboys, and I chose a central well known place (like MBK) to meet or let them choose a place to meet. I donтАЩt remember meeting a money boy from internet, I want to see them in real life first, so I go to bars or Saranrom.
ItтАЩs not only Thai boys. I wrote about Black Woman before, and now I can add another experience. She doesnтАЩt have a purse, she puts money loose in her handbag and every time she has to pay something she rummages through her bag to get the money. It takes minutes. Or does she do this on purpose hoping would get bored and pay for her? It doesnтАЩt work!
A counter example (the only one I have) is a Thai friend of mine who is a hi-so buisinesswoman. She is on time every time, no problems with phone calls or SMS (thatтАЩs probably how she got successful in business, simply by being on time and efficient communication). In this case, I am the one who is late (by Thai standards you wouldnтАЩt call five minutes being late, but by my standards, even if five minutes after a trip of two hours is just 4% off.)
I this just statistics, and all failures are accumulated in the first ten months of the year and I am in for a treat in the next two months to level everything out over the year? Or should I just accept that this life is one of mismatches and obstacles, and hope the next one will be better? (That was a joke, I donтАЩt believe in rebirth or afterlife, I think you are born, then you lead a shitty miserable life like mine where nothing matches, then you die and rot and the worms eat you.)
Or is it my negativity that attracts these cases? When I set up a date I wonder тАЬWhat will go wrong this time?тАЭ What am I going to do in that area at that time if the boy doesnтАЩt show up? If you think I have had everything that can go wrong go wrong you are wrong, there are surprises every time. Do I have a profound lack of understanding of Thai culture or is it just that way that you come late to a date, or donтАЩt go at all and donтАЩt bother to tell the person who is waiting for you that you wonтАЩt come and why you wonтАЩt come or why you are late? Or am I looking for friends, fuckbuddies and a boyfriend at the wrong places (boys who are lo-so because they are retard)? Is it just lack of communication (in English or in Thai) and I fail to ask the right question at the right time or tell the boy what I have in mind?
What are your experiences? Share your stories how things can go wrong beyond imagination, and give an indication how frequently this happens.
A provocative title, and I wonтАЩt get new friends with this post, but I mean it exactly as I wrote it. Anyway, itтАЩs a question and not a statement, so feel free to answer тАЬnoтАЭ and let me know why. I use тАЬretardтАЭ to collect all these тАЬWhat the fuck?!тАЭ moments I have when I try to meet Thai boys (too late, wrong place, phone battery empty, doesnтАЩt tell me something important he knew hours ago and many more, I lost count). More precisely тАЬAre most Thai boys I have contact with retards?тАЭ, and I would like to hear otherтАЩs stories too.
Just when you think it gets better (last month, one boy about 5 km away, efficient communication in English, acceptable delays but it seems now we are drifting apart, anyway having so-so sex тАУ but promising! - on two of six meetings is a poor yield; and another boy, efficient communication in Thai, acceptable delays, but one meeting failed тАУ there must have been miscommunication) there is a row of problem cases.
But first some cases from earlier this year that I vividly remember.
There was one boy I met in February this year. He was 1 hour 50 minutes late (I remember exactly because not long before I had another boy who was 1 hour 50 minutes late, but I donтАЩt remember details of that encounter). He stayed in On Nut, we met at MBK, so I thought skytrain would be the fastest way to get there, he took bus or van or whatever that caused part of the delay. Meeting point was Naai In Books in MBK, he went to Asiabooks in Siam Paragon. When he called me that he is in the bookshop now, and I couldnтАЩt see him, I gave up and thought this is a lost case and he is just playing with me. I had a last look at a book I had missed before (thatтАЩs why I choose a bookshop, I can spend one or two hours there), and when I left, he just arrived. It was a matter of 30 seconds and we would have missed. Only then I found out that he went to the wrong bookshop.
The largest delay I ever had was 6 hours. That was in January 2010. I gave up after 3 hours and continued my schedule as if nothing had happened, then after 6 hours he called тАЬI am here now. Where are you?тАЭ. One of these cases with poor pictures on gayromeo, he turned out not to be my type. I now pass profiles with poor pictures. About 4 out of 5 donтАЩt pass my requirements for a clear facepic. It canтАЩt be that difficult to post one, just one single picture that is in focus, not too dark, that shows your face without sunglasses (unless you are a retard, than this is a major challenge).
Two months ago, an acquaintance on Grindr, we then moved to Line and he wanted to come to my place (at least I thought so). Nearing the time we agreed upon, I ask where he is: тАЬI think we can meeting tomorrow? Rain now littleтАЭ. (I love Line. You have a written record, with times. So I know I am not imagining things.) When you have exchanged a few hundred messages and tried ten times to set up a date without success, this is probably a hint that there are evil forces in the universe that donтАЩt want us to meet.
I went to see a friend on Koh Si Chang over a weekend. I have met him about five times, every time everything was fine. He said he would go to Bangkok the following week for five days to attend some training course. We discussed long where we could meet in Bangkok, I suggested Asiatique as it is close to his accommodation in Bangkok (Rama 2 / Ratburana). On Wednesday (his first day in Bangkok), I write on Line asking where he is and when he would like to meet. The message was read, but no reply. I interpreted this correctly: something is wrong. So I call later in the afternoon, he picks up, says hello and then hands the phone to his mother (?) who tells me that he is not in Bangkok at the moment. I give up. I doubt I will get an explanation next time we meet, but I will carefully try to elucidate what went wrong.
Last week a boy on gayromeo, we exchange phone numbers. I am free on Wednesday afternoon (holiday, 23rd of October) and call him. Meet in half an hour (my suggestion) at BTS Chong Nonsi (his suggestion). I arrive and cannot get him on the phone. I call every five minutes for half an hour, then I leave. Some days later, message on gayromeo: he lost or broke his phone. I assume he didnтАЩt come to Chong Nonsi, the station is too big to meet there without specifying a place where exactly to meet.
Last weekend in Pattaya. I had written on gayromeo with a boy who has an interesting profile, our chat was promising. I wrote I would be free on Saturday early afternoon. (I wrote this twice, on Thursday and on Friday.) When I called him on Saturday around noon, he said he would be leaving Pattaya now to take bus back to his home province to continue university. So we missed. Going back to his home province to continue studying isnтАЩt a spontaneous decision, I assume. ItтАЩs getting rarer and rarer that I read a profile and look at the pictures and think тАЬThis one is different!тАЭ, only to be disappointed: different boy, same problems.
At the same time, I was online on gayromeo and an old acquaintance wrote to me (we didnтАЩt have contact for about two years). He wants to meet. I suggest Tuk Com (because I can spend an hour there without getting bored). He agrees and would meet me there in 15 to 20 minutes. 30 minutes later, I call him and he asks me to come to TonyтАЩs Fitness because he has many friends around Tuk Com and doesnтАЩt want to be seen there (I didnтАЩt ask why). I had mentioned Tuk Com and the Se-ed bookstore at least three times in written or spoken form. So I walk to TonyтАЩs Fitness (about 10 minutes). Did you think he is there, waiting for me? Really? No, it takes another three phone calls and 10 minutes waiting until he arrives on a motorbike taxi. He tells me to jump on and off we drive (my head the highest point, no helmet, my knees the outmost points) for about 30 minutes into the darkest part of the Eastern side of Sukhumvit (I didnтАЩt know that there is that much Thai and even Farang live!). The fare was 350 Baht (he paid, that must have included other trips as my return trip was only 120 Baht and 22 minutes). I must point out that I mentioned тАЬletтАЩs talk firstтАЭ when we chatted, hopping on a motorbike and driving half an hour to a place I donтАЩt know is not my style. He was very horny, I played along, it was so-so, there is potential.
An acquaintance from Camfrog from Hat Yai comes to Bangkok (we had a few times camsex тАУ IтАЩm not a fan of camsex, but better than wanking alone when I was in Europe тАУ but never met in real life). I call him Monday afternoon. He picks up, connection is poor, suddenly interruption. I call again, he tells me he is busy and hangs up (I get that from time to time, no goodbye, they just hang up before everything is said so I have to call again, or there is background noise and the connection slips after a few seconds). Then in the evening some calls I make donтАЩt get through, others with very poor connection or just background noise, I give up. There are evil forces in the universe that donтАЩt want us to meet. It was actually he who wrote to me on Skype that he would come to Bangkok, so I assume he wants to meet.
You could think the Thai mobile network is the problem, but I never had these problems when I called Farang friends.
The boy from the second paragraph, make that two meetings failed. I am getting better at detection when тАЬyesтАЭ means тАЬnoтАЭ. There are communication problems (in Thai), I think he will come to my place, but he will not. I donтАЩt understand everything he says, but I leave with the thought тАЬThat didnтАЩt sound enthusiastic, I would be very surprised if he actually came to my placeтАЭ. I could go to Sanam Luang where he works, and then to a short time hotel, but if I pay for taxi anyway, why do I always have to do the driving, and then pay for short time hotel? Next time I will meet him there and ask about his work conditions to see if there is a day and time when he can come to my place (he did once so far, and I went to see him two times). It works out like this: I go to Sanam Luang (150 Baht) and back 150 and pay for short time room 200, or I give him 500 which allows him to come to my place 150 and go back to his place 150 and leaves him 200. My expense is the same, but I can wait in the comfort of my home and spend two hours doing something useful instead of traveling through Bangkok. (Before someone shouts тАЬItтАЩs all about the money!тАЭ it is not, it is about who is traveling to meet for a sex date.)
I stopped counting, the list could go on for pages, it is more the standard then the exception.
Wait, I have another one! On my second visit to Thailand, I went with a Thai friend from my first holiday to ICK (at that time I didnтАЩt know where it is). He got drunk (at my expense) and then he disappeared. He was just gone and I was left out there alone, not knowing where I am, nobody speaking English! What a luck there are taxis! This is more a case of irresponsible behavior than being a retard.
And boys who change their phone numbers, why? I lost one German mobile phone number and one Thai mobile phone number because they expired, but only because I was not living in that country permanently. And empty battery? Can happen, but it never happened to me until last Saturday, where I was left for 15 minutes with a phone with empty battery, the first time since I started using mobile phones twelve years ago.
All the cases cited above were non-moneyboys, and I chose a central well known place (like MBK) to meet or let them choose a place to meet. I donтАЩt remember meeting a money boy from internet, I want to see them in real life first, so I go to bars or Saranrom.
ItтАЩs not only Thai boys. I wrote about Black Woman before, and now I can add another experience. She doesnтАЩt have a purse, she puts money loose in her handbag and every time she has to pay something she rummages through her bag to get the money. It takes minutes. Or does she do this on purpose hoping would get bored and pay for her? It doesnтАЩt work!
A counter example (the only one I have) is a Thai friend of mine who is a hi-so buisinesswoman. She is on time every time, no problems with phone calls or SMS (thatтАЩs probably how she got successful in business, simply by being on time and efficient communication). In this case, I am the one who is late (by Thai standards you wouldnтАЩt call five minutes being late, but by my standards, even if five minutes after a trip of two hours is just 4% off.)
I this just statistics, and all failures are accumulated in the first ten months of the year and I am in for a treat in the next two months to level everything out over the year? Or should I just accept that this life is one of mismatches and obstacles, and hope the next one will be better? (That was a joke, I donтАЩt believe in rebirth or afterlife, I think you are born, then you lead a shitty miserable life like mine where nothing matches, then you die and rot and the worms eat you.)
Or is it my negativity that attracts these cases? When I set up a date I wonder тАЬWhat will go wrong this time?тАЭ What am I going to do in that area at that time if the boy doesnтАЩt show up? If you think I have had everything that can go wrong go wrong you are wrong, there are surprises every time. Do I have a profound lack of understanding of Thai culture or is it just that way that you come late to a date, or donтАЩt go at all and donтАЩt bother to tell the person who is waiting for you that you wonтАЩt come and why you wonтАЩt come or why you are late? Or am I looking for friends, fuckbuddies and a boyfriend at the wrong places (boys who are lo-so because they are retard)? Is it just lack of communication (in English or in Thai) and I fail to ask the right question at the right time or tell the boy what I have in mind?
What are your experiences? Share your stories how things can go wrong beyond imagination, and give an indication how frequently this happens.