UN - Happy Ending

[christianpfc]

{ This is the logical split and start of the hitler posts - jinks}


I thought this incident with Mee is just a case of тАЬsometimes you lose, and sometimes the others winтАЭ (joke from my time in the army). But is has shown some problems that accumulated over time. I think I have the EQ (emotional intelligence) of a bucket of sand. Things that come natural for others (tipping, chatting up people, is the boy expecting taxi money or not), I have to go through a program flow chart to do that. This is my program flow chart to decide whether to say hello to a boy or not:

http://www.datev.de/lexinform/d5234350-027.jpg

Here is what IтАЩm going to do.

Talk to people in Thai on more occasion (not only when I want to have sex with them). Ask for bus lines or directions, even if I know them already.

DonтАЩt expect anything from encounters. No expectations, no disappointments. Get a more relaxed attitude (thatтАЩs the difficult part).

I will stop taking notes of my expenses (effective from September 2nd). I have amassed enough data in the previous months. I spend less than I earn, that is all I need to know. But I still will have to write down names and phone number of boys I meet (and places where they live, age, home provinceтАж), because my memory is as short as gaybuttonтАЩs dick. (Is that a great joke? I think so!). And times of night buses to make a timetable.

I will tip more, donate at wats and give money to beggars (except in areas where the begging mafia is operating). But I wonder if karma only works if it comes from your heart, and not if your actions are a preventive measure, as a result of complicated calculations, and you donтАЩt even believe in karma?

I will wear closed shoes when I go to disco. I prefer slippers, but if that makes a difference between hooking up or not, I will gladly wear closed shoes. Last time I went to DJ station, there was only one other customer (a Thai boy) with slippers. A Thai friend told me I look better in closed shoes than in slippers (I wore slippers the first time we met).

(Joke alert!) Change underwear and T-shirt daily, shower daily, brush teeth twice per day.

Grow a beard (from time to time). I donтАЩt like shaving, and I donтАЩt like facial on my sexual partners. I can grow a beard up to 3 weeks, then it starts itching and I have to shave. But during these 3 weeks, I save a lot of time by not shaving. Three friends told me that I look good with a beard (about 10 days of growing).

Disarm. Usually I take a bag with various stuff with me, most of it is not that important and it probably makes me look like a tramp. Take only essentials (mobile phone, wallet, condoms, key) and leave the bag at home.

Post more on facebook. I used it mainly in a passive way, as facebook can collect and store all your data. And it was a bit of an effort to load pictures from my camera to my computer and then upload to facebook. With my new mobile phone, it is instantaneous and very easy. And friends notice: two of my friends mentioned my pictures.

Thanks for anyone who is still with me. Now I can see more clearly who my friends are. I alienated and ultimately lost some readers over the last weeks. But as an optimist, I even see something positive in that. If everybody likes you, that means you are dull and boring. (Adaption of тАЬHeineken export is the lowest common denominator of world-wide taste in beerтАЭ, source unknown to me.) I go even further: every great man has enemies. Look at adolf hitler, at the end he had almost the whole world against him.

I got the impression that some people think spending money not as freely as others do makes me a bad person. I hope I am not. LetтАЩs compare this to smoking. Smoking is appalling habit that brings great harm and suffering to mankind. Yet smokers are not necessarily bad people. I have a few friends who smoke. (But the barrier to become friends is higher for smokers than non-smokers, as I have to dance around to stay out of the smoke.)

[bucknaway]

Oh he'll no! I'm on my cell phone! I'm not going to try an read all that on my tiny screen LOL

[Nirish guy]

"every great man has enemies. Look at Adolf Hitler, at the end he had almost the whole world against him."

Yeah cause That Adolf Hitler bloke, he was just a real peach Christian, definitely you should take a leaf out of his book as before he pissed off the whole world with his funny view of how the world should be he was I'm sure quite a decent spud, I really don't know what could have happened for people to have changed their minds so strongly against the poor guy, just terrible the way people judge others over one or two small mistakes that they might have made in life eh ! Sheesh !

[joe552]

Christian, if only you'd posted your flow chart earlier, we all would have had a much clearer view of how you see the world. It all makes perfect sense now.

I do hope your reference to Hitler was a failed attempt at humour?

[scottish-guy]

Now, Now, NIrish - don't bash Hitler - Bucky won't like it (Oh, that's a joke btw Bucky)

Christian always makes me laugh - but he has "form" on this particular subject - a few months ago he declared that the Allies had ganged up on poor little Germany...


... people often forget that England and France declared war on Germany. Let's say, I think the current portrayal/depiction of WWII is one-sided. He who wins the war writes the history books.... during WWII, Germany was the scientific, industrial, and military most advanced nation (only exception: the atom bomb) and would haven beaten every single other country, but not all of them together.....

...and now he opines that Hitler was a "great man" who just inevitably made enemies. I hope he is joking, I really do.

I watched a documentary just the other night on the Sonderkommando - the small work unit of Auschwitz jews who were forced (under threat of being shot or kicked to death) to reassure each batch of new arrivals off the death trains, to coax them willingly into the the gas chambers, who then had to pull the interwined, mangled corpses out after the Zyklon B had done its job, who had to pull any gold teeth out of the corpses and then check each vagina and anus for hidden jewellery or money. Even after doing all that, the life expectancy of these "workers" was 60 days.

So, I'm sorry to go off topic, but any suggestion that Hitler was a "great man" really has to be nipped in the bud - such a suggestion is pornographic

[Nirish guy]

"a few months ago he declared that the Allies had ganged up on poor little Germany."

And he's absolutely right about that ! The Allies DID get together and gang up on Germany and the Nazi's - and thank god they did or gay people like ourselves probably wouldn't be here today and most certainly wouldn't be able to have this very conversation as we'd all of been sent off somewhere unpleasant for not so much as a happy ending but more of a final solution !

[scottish-guy]

Yes but the inference was that it was unfair!!

See the quote.

[Nirish guy]

Yes, I know what you meant.

[latintopxxx]

too strange...from happy ending tips to a hitler fan club; only here!!

[gaymandenmark]

too strange...from happy ending tips to a hitler fan club; only here!!

I think that the fan club has only one member here: Christian.

I am also sad to say, that I do not think Christian made a joke, but maybe he had some kind of Freudian slip.

[bobsaigon2]

Looking forward to Christian's explanation of his Hitler remark. Christian's dry humour? That's a bit too dry for most of us.

[adman5000]

(joke alert) - vvvery interesting. (probably too young to know this humor skit.)

Christian- It might be best to stick to stories of your adventures. :kap:

[christianpfc]

It was a joke (actually two: the flow chart and the reference to Hitler).

But I am not alone, many great men are misunderstood during their lifetime. (Make your own funny or not funny reference to a controversial figure in history.)

[scottish-guy]

(joke alert) - vvvery interesting. (probably too young to know this humor skit.)

I'll take a stab at it - recurring skit with "German soldier" character in Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In?

PS I was VERY young!! :alc:

[newalaan2]

Slightly off topic...sorry to the OP.



(joke alert) - vvvery interesting. (probably too young to know this humor skit.)

I'll take a stab at it - recurring skit with "German soldier" character in Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In?

PS I was VERY young!! :alc:
Missed out the most applicable part with regards to some of christainpfc ramblings..... vvvery interesting....but stupid! Great show never missed an episode even at my tender age back then. Sunday nights on UK tv?

[adman5000]

You are correct sirs! (Scottish guy and Newalaan2) A beer for you both.

Christian- glad to know it was a joke. Also glad to know of behavior modifications you are making and hope it helps you ENJOY your adventures. I also hope you enjoyed the underwear on my flag. :kap:

[bobsaigon2]

Even if it was a joke, it was acutely insensitive to the people of Britain, Europe and elsewhere, as well as allied forces, who lost family members and had to rebuild their lives as a result of the infamous person termed as "great" in that post. No way to make light of that. Hitler belongs in the same category as Pol Pot, Stalin, Mussolini, Idi Amin, Saddam Hussein, et al. These are not great men. They are butchers.

[gaymandenmark]

It is possible to make jokes and fun about Hitler and his terrorregime, in art and in the right consept, like Chaplin did and in the play and movie "Springtime for Hitler and Germany", but it requires a large format to be done.

In Christians case it is just big time bad taste.

A frend of mine is French and he is deeply offended whenever I mention Waterloo or Agincourt. Maybe a747 can tell us if his Jap frends are offended when he mentions the Burma Railway. The Laotian people are still probably smarting from their defeat in the battle marked by the Victory Monument in Bangkok and spit at it every time they pass by. I say to you what I say to them "get over it".

[Patanawet]

It is possible to make jokes and fun about Hitler.................. but it requires a large format to be done.


Or a sense of humour!
But to be fair, the flow chart was hilarious.

[scottish-guy]

It's not a matter of having a sense of humour.

What startled some was (what appeared to be) Christian's genuine inference that Hitler was "a great man" - and no matter how great a sense of humour anybody might have, that just isn't funny.

Christian says he was making a joke and there's no reason not to take that at face value.

However, making those kind of "jokes" can only de done so many times before people start to question it - and that's twice now.

[timmberty]

imagine if hitler had been scottish, he could have become the leader of great britian, started wars in foreign lands on false pretences, and to cap it all if he had lived thru the war he could have become a peace envoy to the region he tried to blow off the face of the earth.
as for dear adolf, was he a great man ? history will judge no, but if he had carried out his vision i've no doubt in 50 years, probably less this great nation of ours would not have become an islamic nation.

my father fought in the war ( no metaphors needed ) and in his last few years he told me it had been a waste of time, cause what those people fought and died for has since been given away by so called politicians who couldnt give a toss about our tiny island, yet will be more than happy to pay for kids in africa to go to school etc etc.

if he could see this country now i've no doubt he would have defected and joined the other side, and he wouldnt have been alone.

[Halfhansum]

Indeed there would not be an Islamic state in the uk today if Adolf had been successful ...
Or blacks, or homosexuals,or disabled peeps, or anyone else for that matter, that didnt have blue eyes and fair hair ...

[timmberty]

there are plenty of people in this new world who would be more than happy to see that come to be.

[gaymandenmark]

I understand that some members, on this board wants to hail A. Hitler, because of the demografic development of todays UK and the history of that country and historical agreements with their old colonies.

I have to puke and think it is terrible to read what I think it is like:
He scould have gassed all the jews, muslims, gipsys, the blacks, handicapped, homosexuelles, the cripless, the communist, the socialdemocrats, the democrats and the artist.

Do your really hate the muslims so mush, which the Nazist by the way cooperated very well with, that you hail the massacres made from the naziess??

If that is the common sence of this board, I am considering to leave it.

To Timmberty, I really doubt that your father would hail and support the crimes against humanity made by Hitler and his cronies.

In fact I am quite upset of what I am reading.

[scottish-guy]

Gaymandenmark - don't leave the board because of Timmberty, he represents an insignificant minority of extreme "Little Englanders". His expressed views are resonant of the far-right English Defence League.

In the space of 2 posts he manages to have a dig at the Scots, hate/resent starving "kids from Africa" and accuse moslems of taking over his "great island". He then goes on to hint (in response to Halfhansum's pointed comment to him) that his views accord with "plenty of people" who would approve of the extermination of ' blacks, homosexuals, and disabled people'.

The major irony in Timmberty's position is that if the type of knuckle-dragging crackpots who support those types of extreme racist, bigoted views were to find out his sexual predilictions, poor Timmy would be running for his life.

:occasion9:

[Surfcrest]

Gentlemen,

I think we have gone way off the road with this topic since Bucky's response to the flow chart, a few pages up.

Even though it's not in the Rules, we've always been raised to believe that talk of Hitler or the Nazi's was an unwritten rule, more so in certain parts of the world.
While in America, dealing with the events of the second war may have been mitigated through comedy, be it Rowan & Martin or Hogan's Heros...for many elsewhere it is still a very sensitive topic.
I grew up in an era with many WWII vets, some of these family members and so I know if I ever mentioned that topic around the house I would have likely got a cuff to the back of the head.

We all come from different backgrounds, different countries....let's try to be sensitive about that!

Okay, then we'll leave it be...unless there are any complaints for this to be moderated. Carry On!

Surfcrest

[gaymandenmark]

I dont think that christians "joke" should be deleted and timmberty comments should be hidden away in some sub-forum. It is nice to know what kind of people you are dealing with.
But on the other hand it is also possible to argue, that this topic has gone far away from Gay Thailand.

If you are moving some of the discussion it should be very clear written where it is cut, that some of it has been moved to Open Forum....and why.
Up to you :-)

I grew up in an era with many WWII vets, some of these family members and so I know if I ever mentioned that topic around the house I would have likely got a cuff to the back of the head.Most of us probably grew up in an era and probably even a family where to be gay meant at the very least "a cuff to the back of the head". This reason is pathetic as an attempt to shut down a discussion.

[scottish-guy]

Usually when someone cries "OFF - TOPIC" it's really an attempt to stifle a debate they feel uncomfortable about and have it moved to some dark corner where no-one will see it (i.e. the Open Discussion or Flaming sections)

In the case of this thread we already had 11 pages of (mostly) on-topic responses about getting jerked off in a massage shop (now, there's a worthwhile debate if ever there was one) before Christian made his intervention and sparked a bit of a furore.
How many more "Happy Ending" tips do people need - is 11 pages not enough? Are they afraid there's some secret wank-tip they are missing? Seriously?
At a time when we are being told that nobody posts on SGT and that the board is dead - we have a topic with 13 pages/almost 200 replies, and almost 4000 views!! - is that not a good thing?
Incidentally - has there ever been a case where a 13 page topic has NOT gone off-topic? It's inevitable.

Threads naturally evolve, they go off on tangents, they come back to the original topic and they fly off again - it's kinda like having a conversation with real people, you know? I sometimes wonder at the conversations the "off topic" complainers must have if they apply the same rules to real-life conversations as they like to see applied on message boards:

"It's a lovely day today isn't it - sunny and warm"
"Absolutely - I might go to visit my friend - he lives down at the beach"
"Excuse me, this conversation is over - I'm not talking to you now, I didn't ask about your friends or the beach and you've sabotaged my theme about the weather"

Finally, there's another important and very specific factor in this discussion: The particular "off-topic" subject that is now being addressed - Hitler, Nazism, the wilful and systematic murder of 11 million people (Jews, Gipsies, Slavs, Homosexuals, Disabled - to name but a few of the target groups), the deliberate multilation and experimentation carried out on children (e.g. injections without anaesthetic directly into the eye to see if eye colour could be changed) - this is a subject which ought never to be stifled and ought never to be forgotten.

Those who were supremely brave enough to have fought in the war and ultimately to have ended that Nazi regime can have pride that they ended those abominations - as can their families. The fact that their survivors may not like the current Government or the current immigration policy, or the current Aid programme really suggests a complete loss of perspective.

:old:

[Nirish guy]

^ Aye we know all that but SOMETIMES one DOES just want to read about wank tips lol and the inclusion of Hilter the the mutilation of children and the extermination of one and all is a bit much when one is having their breakfast - so perhaps at the least maybe those who DO want to go there could open a new thread or something ?

PS Christian, well done, your "joke" is going down a storm, is this more of your "sometimes I like to post to get a reaction"stuff - if so well done, I'm sure you're very pleased, see Tim take note, Christian with the use of two words ( Hilter and great) has by far exceeded what many posts by others have achieved - now THAT'S trolling - intentional or otherwise - and I'm opting for intentional there by the way Christian.

[scottish-guy]

....(it's) a bit much when one is having their breakfast...

Unfortunately, Hitler's victims didn't get their breakfast today - or any other day.

[Nirish guy]

yeah but I AM - so less of the enforced guilt trip please - "I" didn't kill them ya know. FFS

Fuck all this heavy shit, I think I need a happy ending after all that drama - anyone got any tips !! lol

[scottish-guy]

Does this help you get off, my dear?

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[Nirish guy]

yes - off my diet for today if nothing else !

[a447]

Brisbaneguy wrote:
Maybe a747 can tell us if his Jap frends are offended when he mentions the Burma Railway.

Hard to be offended about something you are not aware of.

[timmberty]

how amazing, surfs mention of the topic going off kilter a bit has wound people up more than the mention of hitler did !!!
GMD people have different views on different things, no need to go off in a huff just because things are as you like them to be.
scotty i seem to recall a short time ago you was kinda in favour with dear old sadam, he was no worse than hitler.
i also didnt have a go at the scots, i had a go at one scot who took charge of a country kinda not his own, cause we all know the power of GB is in london :occasion5: and with his help went to war with no real agenda other than to oust a leader of another country.
and i've no doubt if mister camoron had of got his vote approved in parliment we would now be waging war in syria.

as for muslims, i never mentioned muslims, i mentioned isalm, the most destructive religion on earth at this present time.
a religion that promotes peace to all and death if they dont go along with their kind of peace.
am i a little little englander?, this country was far better before it started taking in the worlds rubbish.
but i also have no problem with people who come here to work what ever their colour or race. ( can even be islamic if they live by our rules and not their own)
im sure you will now find plenty of holes to pick. pick away.

oh ni i have never been aware of being a troll, i just say it as it if, seems if people dont like what you say they accuse you of being a troll. ner mind

[gaymandenmark]

Those who were supremely brave enough to have fought in the war and ultimately to have ended that Nazi regime can have pride that they ended those abominations - as can their families. The fact that their survivors may not like the current Government or the current immigration policy, or the current Aid programme really suggests a complete loss of perspective.

:old:

Some of the best words said on this topic. :occasion5:

[joe552]

So now that scottish-guy has so eloquently summed up how people feel about the Nazis, can we hear from christian on his latest attempt at getting laid for free in Bangkok? Frankly, I think I'd have more success than he seems to have. And I don't even speak the language.

[timmberty]

Those who were supremely brave enough to have fought in the war and ultimately to have ended that Nazi regime can have pride that they ended those abominations - as can their families. The fact that their survivors may not like the current Government or the current immigration policy, or the current Aid programme really suggests a complete loss of perspective.

:old:

Some of the best words said on this topic. :occasion5:

its funny the things people use as tools for and against arguments .. tell us again about how you want to help your boyfriend avoid his national duty scotty ...
then tell us about these supremely brave people who had no choice as to whether or not they fought for their country,
eloquent or bullshit joe ? it depends on where you are sitting or how you feel at anytime.
lets be honest if they had all had scottys desire to defend their country we would all speaking german now.

[bucknaway]

It could be hat he is trying to buy something that normaly isn't sold.

Brisbaneguy wrote:
Maybe a747 can tell us if his Jap frends are offended when he mentions the Burma Railway. Hard to be offended about something you are not aware of.Ah yes ignorance of their own atrocities surely must be bliss.

[bucknaway]

So now that scottish-guy has so eloquently summed up how people feel about the Nazis, can we hear from christian on his latest attempt at getting laid for free in Bangkok? Frankly, I think I'd have more success than he seems to have. And I don't even speak the language.


Or it could be that he has Champagne Taste with Beer-barrel pockets :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgu-dz8jLOs&feature=share&list=PL53661BC7A0866CD0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgu-dz8j ... C7A0866CD0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgu-dz8jLOs&feature=share&list=PL53661BC7A0866CD0)

[a447]

Brisbaneguy wrote:
Ah yes ignorance of their own atrocities surely must be bliss.

Bliss? I don't think so.

The education authorities have done their best to keep the facts hidden. But I guess those who were not a part of the atrocities and who were born after the event don't associate themselves with what happened. And why should they?

Brisbaneguy wrote:
Ah yes ignorance of their own atrocities surely must be bliss.

Bliss? I don't think so.

The education authorities have done their best to keep the facts hidden. But I guess those who were not a part of the atrocities and who were born after the event don't associate themselves with what happened. And why should they?scottish guy has just eloquently laid out the indebtedness each successive generation in every society owes to those who have gone before but clearly its been wasted on you we all owe our fathers and grandfathers and whatever for all of the things good and bad that have made us what we are. Unless we are Japs apparently.

[Sooty]

Keep it up BrisbaneGuy, keep reeling him in.

[kittyboy]

Christian. I always enjoy your posts because...we'll they are, I think unusual. Keep posting.

I think you might have a mild case of asperger. Good luck to you on your Thailand adventures. Keep posting.

[bucknaway]

Christian, why did you change the topic of the thread by adding hitlers name? Is that the direction you want this thread to go?

[scottish-guy]

I may be wrong but I think the Admin or Mod changed the title when they split the topic - I doubt it was changed by Christian

[bucknaway]

That topic sucks. I hope that if something like that happens to me, I will have some say in the topic title if my name is going to be credited for creating it.

[christianpfc]

The topic was split and given a new name by a moderator, but I have no objections against it. The only thing I can ask for is writing his name with a capital letter H (as a matter of orthography, proper names are spelled with capital letters in English).


So now that scottish-guy has so eloquently summed up how people feel about the Nazis, can we hear from christian (edit: Christian, see above) on his latest attempt at getting laid for free in Bangkok? Frankly, I think I'd have more success than he seems to have. And I don't even speak the language.

I made good progress. Met two boys in Babylon sauna on Saturday, both want to meet again, and both speak only little English so we communicate in Thai.