christianpfc
July 10th, 2013, 23:27
My preferences for a boyfriend.
(requirements removed - edited see later post)
" ... My friend is another addition to my long list of Thai who are just not my type ... "
Christian, since your Grand Experiment started there seems to be one central theme ... at least that part if it associated with looking, searching, scouring the countryside looking for a 'certain' Thai guy. This quest is, in general, encapsulated by the quote above, which I have read many times in your posts.
So help me out: exactly what is 'Your Type'?
Here a brain dump* of my requirements for a boyfriend or fuck buddy.
(Update: I decided to make it a comprehensive treatise, thatтАЩs why it took so long.)
When boys in Saranrom ask me what I am looking for, I reply: slim, brown skin, no facial hair. I mean тАЬno body hairтАЭ, but simplify to facial hair as this is usually a good indication and you can see it when they are dressed.
When Thais I meet in discos or saunas or on the internet ask me what I am looking for in a boyfriend, I say: no smoking, no drinking, no tattoos.
Both paragraphs above are just some basic points that are easy to determine, the full spectrum of requirements is much more complicated.
My definition of boyfriend is someone you share a room, a bed and a fridge with and have sex with regularly. One could argue that the main point is the good sex, and it doesnтАЩt matter whether this comes from a boyfriend, a moneyboy or a sex toy.
I permanently scan my surroundings for handsome boys. It happens unconsciously, only if I notice someone who is male, age 18-30, slim, dark skin, I switch on my brain and take a closer look to see if he is handsome/cute and fits my other requirements. ItтАЩs like in the movie Terminator 2: Judgment Day.
[youtube:3qbsvnmb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkmc1FNLInM[/youtube:3qbsvnmb]
(starting at 00:50)
(It doesn't work? I checked on the thread how to insert youtube videos, I think I did everything right.)
No smoking, no drinking, no drugs, no tattoos, no piercings.
Smoking and drugs are not negotiable.
I can tolerate social drinking.
I can tolerate some tattoos (religious, asymmetric tribals), others are too hideous to look at them daily (snakes, scorpions, spiders, tattoos on the neck or in the face, on the hip, тАЬarse antlersтАЭ, symmetric tribals).
He should have a similar taste in underwear like I have. None of the underwear and swimwear at Vinegar (Pattaya, Jomtien Complex) is my taste. I buy all of my underwear on street stalls in Silom. My taste is simple, I like underwear in black, white, red, green, blue, orange, violet, indigo, purple, turquoise or mixtures thereof.
Regularly have good sex (every other day would be fine for me).
Sexual compatibility (I am quite flexible in this aspect).
No sunglasses, no make-up, no painted fingernails, short fingernails. However dyed hair and hair tattoos are ok, maybe even a plus. No fashion contact lenses, best no glasses at all.
No hats except base caps. Under certain conditions, with base cap can look better than without. For all other types of hat, without hat looks much better than with hat.
Hair style I like (with short hair you canтАЩt go wrong, longer hair can be great to look at, but these hairstyles require a lot of work). The back of the skull should be spherical, or a hairdo that is spherical.
Teeth are not that important anymore. I used to pay a lot of attention, preferring white teeth in a line. But not, as long as he can eat with them, itтАЩs fine for me. Braces are no problem. I can even accept tooth jewellery (or whatever you would call these gemstones glued to the tooth).
Muscular/Athletic is fine, but not bodybuilder. Slight six-pack is fine. Important is the ratio of chest or waist width to depth, it should be about 2 (I would have to make some measurements to determine the most attractive ratio).
Slim is the ratio between height and weight, I like the type who is 170cm and weighs 50kg. Between 1.5m and 2.0 m I donтАЩt care how tall the boy is, as long as he is slim. Out of these borders we are going into the area of dwarfs and giants, didnтАЩt happen so far, I would have to decide for each case. I prefer the body shape that has the smallest point above the hip, the geometry is close to a hyperboloid, which is the shape of most cooling towers in electrical power stations. I never tried this chat-up line: тАЬI like your body, it looks like the cooling tower of a nuclear power station!тАЭ (doesnтАЩt matter for the shape of the cooling tower if the power station is nuclear or oil or coal or gas, but I think nuclear would give best effect), or, if he is mathematician: тАЬI like your body shape, your torso looks like hyperboloid!тАЭ. This smallest point is exactly where I want to wrap my arms around.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperboloid_structure
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/images_zps65f899da.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/images_zps65f899da.jpg.html)
Fig. 1: Hyperboloid structure, geometrical representation
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/620px-Gundremmingen_Nuclear_Power_Plant_zps8c24d75e.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/620px-Gundremmingen_Nuclear_Power_Plant_zps8c24d75e.jpg. html)
Fig. 2: Hyperboloid structure, cooling tower in a nuclear power plant
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/DSCN5399_zps2dadf6e7.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/DSCN5399_zps2dadf6e7.jpg.html)
Fig. 3: Boy in my hotel room in Chiang Mai
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/DSCN6429_zps291e98f1.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/DSCN6429_zps291e98f1.jpg.html)
Fig. 4: Boy in my room in Bangkok
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/6074345_s59115282_18b84d6270b7_zpsa735946c.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/6074345_s59115282_18b84d6270b7_zpsa735946c.jpg.htm l)
Fig. 5: Arbitrary picture from gayromeo
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/kit3_013_zpse52fa9c5.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/kit3_013_zpse52fa9c5.jpg.html)
Fig. 6: Arbitrary picture from the internet
Even in real life, dressed, you can see the body shape through the T-shirt.
No facial hair and no body hair, that includes no hair on perineum and scrotum. Shaving can be acceptable, but often facial hair is an indicator for hair elsewhere where I donтАЩt like it. When I feel hair on perineum, scrotum or a crab ladder, it evokes feelings like a big black hairy spider is crawling on my arm or leg. No hair below an imaginary line from ear to eye. Sideburns? Yuck! Clear change from hair to no hair on the neck, no peach fuzz. I especially like the V-shape of hair in the neck.
I cannot describe what a cute face looks like, but I recognize it when I see it. But I can say that lips, chin and neck are important, nose and ears are not important.
Not in love with his mobile phone (I dislike the permanent calling or messaging some of my friends do). I donтАЩt like missed calls. If he wants to talk to me, he should be prepared to spend a few baht for a phone call.
Age range 18 to 25. (And what about ageing? No idea.)
South-East Asian. There are handsome boys from Japan to Indonesia, from Burma to the Philippines, but I have no experiences with these.
University education would be a plus.
Speaking English would be a plus, but I can imagine speaking Thai only. (My Thai is not as good that I could lead a boyfriendship in Thai, but if I had a boyfriend who speaks only Thai I think I could improve my Thai considerably).
I am not into the gay scene, so my boyfriend shouldnтАЩt be. (I only go to bars, discos, saunas to look for sex, not because I enjoy them.)
I havenтАЩt thought much about HIV. I would prefer a boyfriend who does not have HIV or other diseases.
Normal eating and sleeping times. A friend of mine likes to play online games, on one occasion from 10pm to 2am. So letтАЩs rule out excessive playing of computer games as well.
Similar interests. I like travelling, hiking, riding by bicycle, running, languages, reading, mountains, forest, architecture. Would be nice if my boyfriend shared some of these interests.
I can imagine discussing other subjects (politics, history, science) with friends if my boyfriend is not interested in these subjects.
Do not waste food. The last time I left food on my plate was in 2011. A Thai friend used to order more coke and popcorn than both of us could east when we went to cinema (several times). One of the reasons why I stopped seeing him.
I donтАЩt need music around me all the time. There is music I like, music I am indifferent to (unless itтАЩs too loud) and music I donтАЩt like (no matter which volume). So my future boyfriend should have a similar taste in music (whatever my taste in music is).
I donтАЩt wear sunglasses or jewelry and prefer my boyfriend to do the same. This applies even for fuck buddies, I sometimes have to ask them to take off chains so I can access their neck from all sides and to take of finger rings for mutual wanking.
I met a few boys who stood my scrutiny for several days, but usually it takes less than an hour, often just seconds, to determine that someone will not become my boyfriend (but might stay friend or fuck buddy). Pictures on gayromeo are often promising, but insufficient to cast a decision. I had one boy come to me by taxi from Lat Krabang (30 km, I gave him money for return trip), and the second he stepped out of the taxi I could say that we would not have sex. So we discussed Thai language and travelling in Thailand in my room.
There is one boy in Classic Boys. I offed him three times longtime already, we get along well, he has a sense of humor similar to mine. But he has a hideous tattoo and his crotch feels like a wire brush.
There was Art whom I met at Sanam Luang when I was looking for boys at Saranrom. We met several times (December 2011 to January 2012) and had good sex every time. I would like to meet him again, but he changed his phone number. He was late (1-2 hours) every time we met, could not stay over night and asked for reasonable amounts of money. His English was limited, so we had to communicate mainly in Thai.
Friday (14.06.2013) I met a boy who is a perfect match intellectually and by social level. He studies and works part-time as a translator for English-French-Thai and teaches English to Thais. There is a doctor and a pharmacist in his family and he had a look at my medicine (my cold turned into an ear infection, I had to see a doctor on Friday morning) and told me what it is for. Thai-Chinese, pale skin.
My friend on Koh Sichang is a fuck buddy, but I could do without the fucking part (sex is so-so). We get along well, I have been to his place about five times already. Apart from excessive computer gaming no real complaints. I just donтАЩt feel that I want to spend more than a few days in a row with him, separated by several weeks or months of absence.
As you can see, I put much importance on physical features (cute face, handsome body, hairstyle and underwear I like) than on character (and some Thai friends pointed this out to me when we discussed the subject).
My current estimation of time until I find a boyfriend ranges from 5 to 50 years. And should I be lucky, weтАЩlI have to find a way to live together, preferably in Thailand, and to find work for both of us close to the place where we live.
To give you an idea how picky I am: 96% of the pictures of nude males bangkokbois post, I wouldnтАЩt sleep with them for free, 2% I would sleep with for free, 2% I would off in a bar. From the defunct blog bangkokofthemind/bkkmindscape, I would take 20% of the boys for free. Nonetheless, up to once per day in real life I spot a Thai guy I would immediately marry and spend the rest of my life with if he was gay, interested in me and half way acceptable manners.
My pickiness varies with mood, easily by a factor of ten. There are days where I think: тАЬyou, you, and you (can come with me for some fun back in my room)тАЭ, and others where I think: тАЬNo, no, noтАЭ.
In the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) you can chose three properties out of four (pressure, volume, mass, temperature), the last one is determined by the law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law
I think it is similar with a boyfriend: out of body, face, character, love, I can choose three, and have to take the last as it comes.
*I donтАЩt remember where I read тАЬbrain dumpтАЭ, but I had to look it up to make sure itтАЩs the right word:
2. In slang, it can describe a hurried explanation of a system, job, skillset, or other software engineering subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_dump
(WeтАЩre not done yet, I will add some pictures of boys who qualify as fuckbuddy or boyfriend when time permits.)
(requirements removed - edited see later post)
" ... My friend is another addition to my long list of Thai who are just not my type ... "
Christian, since your Grand Experiment started there seems to be one central theme ... at least that part if it associated with looking, searching, scouring the countryside looking for a 'certain' Thai guy. This quest is, in general, encapsulated by the quote above, which I have read many times in your posts.
So help me out: exactly what is 'Your Type'?
Here a brain dump* of my requirements for a boyfriend or fuck buddy.
(Update: I decided to make it a comprehensive treatise, thatтАЩs why it took so long.)
When boys in Saranrom ask me what I am looking for, I reply: slim, brown skin, no facial hair. I mean тАЬno body hairтАЭ, but simplify to facial hair as this is usually a good indication and you can see it when they are dressed.
When Thais I meet in discos or saunas or on the internet ask me what I am looking for in a boyfriend, I say: no smoking, no drinking, no tattoos.
Both paragraphs above are just some basic points that are easy to determine, the full spectrum of requirements is much more complicated.
My definition of boyfriend is someone you share a room, a bed and a fridge with and have sex with regularly. One could argue that the main point is the good sex, and it doesnтАЩt matter whether this comes from a boyfriend, a moneyboy or a sex toy.
I permanently scan my surroundings for handsome boys. It happens unconsciously, only if I notice someone who is male, age 18-30, slim, dark skin, I switch on my brain and take a closer look to see if he is handsome/cute and fits my other requirements. ItтАЩs like in the movie Terminator 2: Judgment Day.
[youtube:3qbsvnmb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkmc1FNLInM[/youtube:3qbsvnmb]
(starting at 00:50)
(It doesn't work? I checked on the thread how to insert youtube videos, I think I did everything right.)
No smoking, no drinking, no drugs, no tattoos, no piercings.
Smoking and drugs are not negotiable.
I can tolerate social drinking.
I can tolerate some tattoos (religious, asymmetric tribals), others are too hideous to look at them daily (snakes, scorpions, spiders, tattoos on the neck or in the face, on the hip, тАЬarse antlersтАЭ, symmetric tribals).
He should have a similar taste in underwear like I have. None of the underwear and swimwear at Vinegar (Pattaya, Jomtien Complex) is my taste. I buy all of my underwear on street stalls in Silom. My taste is simple, I like underwear in black, white, red, green, blue, orange, violet, indigo, purple, turquoise or mixtures thereof.
Regularly have good sex (every other day would be fine for me).
Sexual compatibility (I am quite flexible in this aspect).
No sunglasses, no make-up, no painted fingernails, short fingernails. However dyed hair and hair tattoos are ok, maybe even a plus. No fashion contact lenses, best no glasses at all.
No hats except base caps. Under certain conditions, with base cap can look better than without. For all other types of hat, without hat looks much better than with hat.
Hair style I like (with short hair you canтАЩt go wrong, longer hair can be great to look at, but these hairstyles require a lot of work). The back of the skull should be spherical, or a hairdo that is spherical.
Teeth are not that important anymore. I used to pay a lot of attention, preferring white teeth in a line. But not, as long as he can eat with them, itтАЩs fine for me. Braces are no problem. I can even accept tooth jewellery (or whatever you would call these gemstones glued to the tooth).
Muscular/Athletic is fine, but not bodybuilder. Slight six-pack is fine. Important is the ratio of chest or waist width to depth, it should be about 2 (I would have to make some measurements to determine the most attractive ratio).
Slim is the ratio between height and weight, I like the type who is 170cm and weighs 50kg. Between 1.5m and 2.0 m I donтАЩt care how tall the boy is, as long as he is slim. Out of these borders we are going into the area of dwarfs and giants, didnтАЩt happen so far, I would have to decide for each case. I prefer the body shape that has the smallest point above the hip, the geometry is close to a hyperboloid, which is the shape of most cooling towers in electrical power stations. I never tried this chat-up line: тАЬI like your body, it looks like the cooling tower of a nuclear power station!тАЭ (doesnтАЩt matter for the shape of the cooling tower if the power station is nuclear or oil or coal or gas, but I think nuclear would give best effect), or, if he is mathematician: тАЬI like your body shape, your torso looks like hyperboloid!тАЭ. This smallest point is exactly where I want to wrap my arms around.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperboloid_structure
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/images_zps65f899da.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/images_zps65f899da.jpg.html)
Fig. 1: Hyperboloid structure, geometrical representation
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/620px-Gundremmingen_Nuclear_Power_Plant_zps8c24d75e.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/620px-Gundremmingen_Nuclear_Power_Plant_zps8c24d75e.jpg. html)
Fig. 2: Hyperboloid structure, cooling tower in a nuclear power plant
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/DSCN5399_zps2dadf6e7.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/DSCN5399_zps2dadf6e7.jpg.html)
Fig. 3: Boy in my hotel room in Chiang Mai
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/DSCN6429_zps291e98f1.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/DSCN6429_zps291e98f1.jpg.html)
Fig. 4: Boy in my room in Bangkok
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/6074345_s59115282_18b84d6270b7_zpsa735946c.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/6074345_s59115282_18b84d6270b7_zpsa735946c.jpg.htm l)
Fig. 5: Arbitrary picture from gayromeo
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/christianpfc/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/kit3_013_zpse52fa9c5.jpg (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/christianpfc/media/underwear%20and%20swimmwear/handsome%20boys/kit3_013_zpse52fa9c5.jpg.html)
Fig. 6: Arbitrary picture from the internet
Even in real life, dressed, you can see the body shape through the T-shirt.
No facial hair and no body hair, that includes no hair on perineum and scrotum. Shaving can be acceptable, but often facial hair is an indicator for hair elsewhere where I donтАЩt like it. When I feel hair on perineum, scrotum or a crab ladder, it evokes feelings like a big black hairy spider is crawling on my arm or leg. No hair below an imaginary line from ear to eye. Sideburns? Yuck! Clear change from hair to no hair on the neck, no peach fuzz. I especially like the V-shape of hair in the neck.
I cannot describe what a cute face looks like, but I recognize it when I see it. But I can say that lips, chin and neck are important, nose and ears are not important.
Not in love with his mobile phone (I dislike the permanent calling or messaging some of my friends do). I donтАЩt like missed calls. If he wants to talk to me, he should be prepared to spend a few baht for a phone call.
Age range 18 to 25. (And what about ageing? No idea.)
South-East Asian. There are handsome boys from Japan to Indonesia, from Burma to the Philippines, but I have no experiences with these.
University education would be a plus.
Speaking English would be a plus, but I can imagine speaking Thai only. (My Thai is not as good that I could lead a boyfriendship in Thai, but if I had a boyfriend who speaks only Thai I think I could improve my Thai considerably).
I am not into the gay scene, so my boyfriend shouldnтАЩt be. (I only go to bars, discos, saunas to look for sex, not because I enjoy them.)
I havenтАЩt thought much about HIV. I would prefer a boyfriend who does not have HIV or other diseases.
Normal eating and sleeping times. A friend of mine likes to play online games, on one occasion from 10pm to 2am. So letтАЩs rule out excessive playing of computer games as well.
Similar interests. I like travelling, hiking, riding by bicycle, running, languages, reading, mountains, forest, architecture. Would be nice if my boyfriend shared some of these interests.
I can imagine discussing other subjects (politics, history, science) with friends if my boyfriend is not interested in these subjects.
Do not waste food. The last time I left food on my plate was in 2011. A Thai friend used to order more coke and popcorn than both of us could east when we went to cinema (several times). One of the reasons why I stopped seeing him.
I donтАЩt need music around me all the time. There is music I like, music I am indifferent to (unless itтАЩs too loud) and music I donтАЩt like (no matter which volume). So my future boyfriend should have a similar taste in music (whatever my taste in music is).
I donтАЩt wear sunglasses or jewelry and prefer my boyfriend to do the same. This applies even for fuck buddies, I sometimes have to ask them to take off chains so I can access their neck from all sides and to take of finger rings for mutual wanking.
I met a few boys who stood my scrutiny for several days, but usually it takes less than an hour, often just seconds, to determine that someone will not become my boyfriend (but might stay friend or fuck buddy). Pictures on gayromeo are often promising, but insufficient to cast a decision. I had one boy come to me by taxi from Lat Krabang (30 km, I gave him money for return trip), and the second he stepped out of the taxi I could say that we would not have sex. So we discussed Thai language and travelling in Thailand in my room.
There is one boy in Classic Boys. I offed him three times longtime already, we get along well, he has a sense of humor similar to mine. But he has a hideous tattoo and his crotch feels like a wire brush.
There was Art whom I met at Sanam Luang when I was looking for boys at Saranrom. We met several times (December 2011 to January 2012) and had good sex every time. I would like to meet him again, but he changed his phone number. He was late (1-2 hours) every time we met, could not stay over night and asked for reasonable amounts of money. His English was limited, so we had to communicate mainly in Thai.
Friday (14.06.2013) I met a boy who is a perfect match intellectually and by social level. He studies and works part-time as a translator for English-French-Thai and teaches English to Thais. There is a doctor and a pharmacist in his family and he had a look at my medicine (my cold turned into an ear infection, I had to see a doctor on Friday morning) and told me what it is for. Thai-Chinese, pale skin.
My friend on Koh Sichang is a fuck buddy, but I could do without the fucking part (sex is so-so). We get along well, I have been to his place about five times already. Apart from excessive computer gaming no real complaints. I just donтАЩt feel that I want to spend more than a few days in a row with him, separated by several weeks or months of absence.
As you can see, I put much importance on physical features (cute face, handsome body, hairstyle and underwear I like) than on character (and some Thai friends pointed this out to me when we discussed the subject).
My current estimation of time until I find a boyfriend ranges from 5 to 50 years. And should I be lucky, weтАЩlI have to find a way to live together, preferably in Thailand, and to find work for both of us close to the place where we live.
To give you an idea how picky I am: 96% of the pictures of nude males bangkokbois post, I wouldnтАЩt sleep with them for free, 2% I would sleep with for free, 2% I would off in a bar. From the defunct blog bangkokofthemind/bkkmindscape, I would take 20% of the boys for free. Nonetheless, up to once per day in real life I spot a Thai guy I would immediately marry and spend the rest of my life with if he was gay, interested in me and half way acceptable manners.
My pickiness varies with mood, easily by a factor of ten. There are days where I think: тАЬyou, you, and you (can come with me for some fun back in my room)тАЭ, and others where I think: тАЬNo, no, noтАЭ.
In the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) you can chose three properties out of four (pressure, volume, mass, temperature), the last one is determined by the law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law
I think it is similar with a boyfriend: out of body, face, character, love, I can choose three, and have to take the last as it comes.
*I donтАЩt remember where I read тАЬbrain dumpтАЭ, but I had to look it up to make sure itтАЩs the right word:
2. In slang, it can describe a hurried explanation of a system, job, skillset, or other software engineering subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_dump
(WeтАЩre not done yet, I will add some pictures of boys who qualify as fuckbuddy or boyfriend when time permits.)