Holiday expenses 09.09.-29.09.2012

[christianpfc]

Holiday expenses 09.09.-29.09.2012

Back due to popular demand! All prices in Thai Baht. One day is from getting up until getting to bed (which is often past midnight). I usually pay hotel room in one sum when I depart, for clarity splitted into days. X+y means X is the price and y is tip, exept for taxi where I always round up to next ten Baht. Total 47728 Baht for 20 nights and 21 days, thatтАЩs 2386 per night or 2273 per day.

You want to know how to holiday in Thailand on less than 500 Baht per day? Check 16. and 17.09.2012!

New: whom I slept with and how I met them! In chronologial order: gogo bar (Classic Boys, long time), gogo bar (X-Boyz Bangkok, short time), friend from previous holiday (long time), camfrog (two days and two nights), friend from previous holiday (long time), gogo bar (X-Boyz Pattaya, short time, I have no recollection of this encounter), gogo bar (Toy Boys, long time), Saensuk sauna (long time), gayromeo (long time), massage in Silom, DJ-station (long time), gogo bar (Screw boys, long time).

In order of frequency: 5 x gogo, 2 x aquaintance from previous holiday, 1 x each camfrog, sauna, gayromeo, massage, disco. 6 moneyboys and 6 non-moneyboys.

That makes 12 different sexual partner, which is an excellent result for twenty nights (one was only massage in the massage parlor; I stayed with a friend over night without sex and I hooked up in DJ station one night with a drunken boy and found the following morning that he is not my type, so we dropped the subject of sex).

09.09.2012 Sunday Bangkok total expenses 2203 Baht
18:05 landing 18:55 taxi 19:25 hotel
25+45 expressway toll
220 taxi airport to Sathorn
750 room
6 water
67 mouthwash
45 taxi to Silom
60 dinner
250 drink for me 270 drink for boy 400 off fee 20 tip Classic Boy

10.09.2012 Monday Bangkok total expenses 3805 Baht
750 room
195+5 breakfast for two
(boy I offed long time pays bus for two, buys drinks for two and pays tuk-tuk)
20 Wat Saket make merit fort wo
120 taxi
2100 tip long time
30 internet 1h30min
60 dinner
45 taxi to Silom
20 pomelo
150+10 Super A
200 underwear (two pieces)
100 mangosteen 2 kg
Walk back to Sathorn 23:41(past DJ-station) via Soi Convent and Ngaam Duplii тАУ 00:20 (past Malaysia hotel)

11.09.2012 Tuesday Bangkok total 3868
750 room
15 pineapple
100 new battery for watch
8 bus
30 pancake
20 river boat
5 postcard
10 watermelon
360 taxi from Democracy Monument to Sathorn (traffic jam: 1 h + 40 km large detour)
15 internet 30 min 15 print A4 color (I had some printing and scanning to do throughout the holiday to arrange some affairs in Germany)
40 fried shrimp
250 drink form e 250 drink for boy 400 off fee X-Boy
1500 tip short time

12.09.2012 Wednesday Bangkok total 2573
750 room
37 MRT to Pahon Yothin
(free bus 29)
20 motorcyle
(11am to 2 pm job interview)
100 mobile phone balance transfer to friend
58 two books at IT Square
8 bus
20 coconut
250 foot massage 1 h 200 tip
40 pomegrate juice
60 taxi to Sathorn (traffic jam)
30 internet 1 h
100 mobile top up
60 dinner
30 laundry
80 taxi to Saranrom
500 police chek no safety belt
80 taxi to Silom
100 DJ station
50 taxi

13.09.2012 Thursday Bangkok total 1123
750 room
300 pizza
70 internet 3 h 30 min
3 thai friend

14.09.2012 Friday Bangkok and Ancient City total 3601
750 room
240+10 lunch for two
40 MRT fort wo, 80 BTS fort wo, 120 taxi
500+350 entry to Ancient City
30 drinks for two
26 (?)
20 toll 240 taxi
200 taxi money for friend
260 Babylon entry
50 taxi to Silom
80+10 drink Balcony
250+10 drink X-Size
35 pancake
100 underwear
50 fried bamboo worm
80+20 drink
50 taxi

15.09.2012 Saturday Bangkok to Koh Sichang total 485
45 toll
100 taxi to Victory Monument
100 minibus to Sri Ratcha
40 tuk-tuk to ferry port
50 ferry
50 tuk-tuk to friendтАЩs place
100 Karaoke

16.09.2012 Sunday Koh Sichang total 476
20 wat
20 wat (making merit?)
40 drink
300 lunch fort wo
96 petrol for my friendтАЩs motorbike

17.09.2012 Monday Koh Sichang to Pattaya total 1845
50 ferry
60 tuk-tuk to bus station
30 bus to Pattaya
50 motorcycle
750 room
10 watermelon
30 internet 1 h 5 print A4 black and white
25+25+50+20 fruits
60 sticky rice with mango
30 internet 1 h 10 scan
400 dinner for two
240 cinema for two

18.09.2012 Tuesday Pattaya total 2523
750 room
20+20+20 baht-bus fort wo
300+150 entry Baan Sukhawatdee
70 ice cream fort wo
10 water
20+20 baht-bus return
30 two stamps for postcard to Europe
40 orange juice for two
35+28 fruits
100 laundry
20 internet 1 h
250 dinner
150+10 Funny Boys
130+10 Lucky 7
200 X-Boys Land
130+10 Nice Boys

19.09.2012 Wednesday Pattaya total 3180
650 room
(breakfast included)
80 internet 3 h + print A4
10 to Jomtien
60 chair and coconut at gay beach
10 to Saensuk
180 entry
170 dinner fort wo
100+10 Eros
180 drink for me 200 drink for boy 400 off fee X-Boys
1100 tip short time
10 to NAB
20 baht-bus for two

20.09.2012 Thursday Pattaya total 2297
650 room
(breakfast included)
37 internet 30 min + scan
140+10 Mic My Boy
120 Krazy Dragon
130+10 Jet Set
130+10 Splash
130+10 Vassa
100 tip boy
150+160+400+10 Toy Boys

21.09.2012 Friday Pattaya total 3229
650 room
1500 tip long time (A heavy smoker! Otherwise I would have kept him for the day.)
40 internet 2 h 20 print
(hook up with boy from gayromeo)
150+80 entry Three Kingdom Park
600 van return trip
10 rice
49 icecream
10 watermelon
90+10 Panorama
20 sushi

22.09.2012 Saturday Pattaya total 770
(room free pay 4 get 5 or similar in low season)
30 internet 1 h 10 scan
10 to Saensuk Sauna
180 entry
220 food
150+10 Funny Boys
140 fruit basked birthday present for my mother
10 watermelon
10 fried sticky rice

23.09.2012 Sunday Pattaya to Bangkok total 2559
(free ride to North Pattaya Bus Station)
124 bus to Ekkamai
70 taxi to Sathorn
450 room in Charlie House (double bed with single occupancy)
30 internet 1 h
70 dinner
100 mobile top up
450+1000 oil massage 1 h
100 underwear
15 fruit
100 DJ-station (hook up)
50 taxi

24.09.2012 Monday Bangkok total 1114
450 room
200 joiner fee previous night
100 lunch
7 water
10 ferry
50 bike rental 1 h
15 drink
7 bus
40 laundry
50 taxi to Silom
180 taxi to a friendтАЩs place, sleep there

25.09.2012 Tuesday Bangkok total 2604
750 room
40 MRT to Lumpini
60 lunch
40 internet 2 h
100 transfer mobile balance to friend
7 bus
140 dinner MaxiтАЩs
250+10 Heart Beat
100 tip boy in Heart Beat
200+200+500+100 Screw Boyz
50 taxi
87 food fort wo

26.09.2012 Wednesday Bangkok Royal Palace total 5173
750 room
140 lunch fort wo
100 taxi to Royal Palace
400+400 entry fort wo
40 drinks fort wo
30 ferry for two to Sathorn Pier
1500 tip long time
90 taxi
8 bus
100 mobile top up
948 dinner for three
45 toll 170 taxi to ICK Ramkhamhaeng
22 drinks fort wo
240 beer fort wo at SeeK-dance
130 taxi back to Sathorn

27.09.2012 Thursday Bangkok total 1483
750 room
40 internet 2 h
75 lunch
25+20+15 fruit
8 bus
230 entry Chakran Sauna
110 dinner
15 bus to Silom
15 papaya
30 pancake
100 DJ-station (hook up)
50 taxi

28.09.2012 Friday Bangkok total 1622
750 room
110 lunch
(free bus)
20 Wat Suthat entry
16 drink
150 book Thai for intermediate learners second hand Soi Rambuttri
31 food 10 drink
15 chicken heart
20 fried potato cheese flavor at Khao San Road
10 watermelon
80 taxi to Silom
180 drinks for two at Spanish on 4
50 taxi
180 dinner for two

29.09.2012 Saturday Bangkok to Berlin total 1198
350 room late check out
300 dinner fort wo
35 drink
33 food
50 tip for friend
45+25 toll
260 taxi to Airport
100 transfer mobile balance to friend

[Mancs]

Fascinating. Thank you for the detail. I like that walk from Silom via Soi Convent and Soi Mozart -and great that the route is still open past Babylon and through the gates of the Sukhothai tower. Do you find that most of the men on Gay Romeo want money or not? I look at it but I'm uncertain because I don't know that.

Christian must be on a diet* - his usual cake consumption is conspicuous by its absence.

:party

* I almost wrote "economy drive" - but that would be impossible :occasion9:

[cdnmatt]

13.09.2012 Thursday Bangkok total 1123
750 room
300 pizza
70 internet 3 h 30 min
3 thai friend


I'm honestly genuinely curious. What did your Thai friend say when you gave him 3 baht?

[lonelywombat]

I am stunned to find this thread repeated on all Thailand gay forums. Why? Do you think that people only read only one forum?

What benefit is it to all those who may only read one forum just now and again.

You are carried away by your diligent recording of your spendthrift ways to the maximum degree.

Why does everyone from Timbuktoo to the never never, have to be exposed to your frugal ways,

...What did your Thai friend say when you gave him 3 baht?

This surely deserves to be a competition item - and Neal should put up a prize for the winning entry!

My suggestion: "Gee thanks, Christian - at least it's not another fucking Plastic Eiffel Tower!"

:party

[Impulse]

Great report Christian. Interesting you split half and half with moneybois. Someone as young as you could have more non-money bois if you desired but like me, you are a bit lazy. I totally understand. In fact the DJ station pickup did not work out so that was a waste of time. On vacation you can't beat a go-go imho.

How were the bois at Toy bois?, I'm thinking of going there in a few weeks.




I am stunned to find this thread repeated on all Thailand gay forums. Why? Why not? Not everyone reads all the boards. If you see it on another board then don't read it....simple enough.

You are carried away by your diligent recording of your spendthrift ways to the maximum degree. Why does everyone from Timbuktoo to the never never, have to be exposed to your frugal ways,Does spendthrift = frugal? News to me.

I don't thint christian is even trying my daily food budget starts with muesli - 150 baht for a bag from Tops that lasts two weeks 40 baht for milk bottle that last 3 or 4 days from 7-11 - and thats breakfast so that means maybe 20 bahrt for a newtricious brekky a day then for lunch or dinner depends which one I have with friends its two serves of fruit from the roadside stall 30 baht all up.

What have I spend so far is 50 baht for two very healthy and nutritious meals and my bowels are perfectly regular then once a day I might lash out for a set meal with one or other friend of the 299 or 399 baht variety if Im feeling very slef indulgent Ill have a coffee none of that Starbucks crap at 100 baht a cup but a bog standard clean Thai cafe or A Bon Pain maybe 50 or 60 baht a cup or maybe Ill just get some fried rice whats that 30 baht or something so if I didnt eat out Ive spend 130 baht a day something like that what rediciulos amounts of money people do spend just because there on holiday.

Thats what I call real making merit none of this supastitous Thai crap at temples but good clean simple living.

... my bowels are perfectly regular...

Yes, this is exactly the sort of high-class information we need more of on SGF - but you're too vague - can you be more precise as to what you deem "regular"?

If christianpfc wanted to tell us about his toilet habits, he'd be sure to indicate the mean frequency of his BMs and the quantity (either by volume or weight) and consistency (from 1-10) of his stool - so if you are hoping to rival him in the information stakes you'll need to up your game.

oh god PLEASE let Neal lock this thread before Christian gets any crazy ideas and heads off with a spatula, a tape measure and a sieve !! :-((

[Neal]

I sense poopie thread being started by all our poopie friends. Wasn't there one on many boards and it finally got locked or deleted year ago? :crybaby:

[kittyboy]

Charts and graphs are the next step.

Which hotel did you stay? I am looking for a hotel for my upcoming trip.

Well I care about my health and regular bowel movements are a sign of good health.

...bowel movements are a sign of good health.

Not if you're sitting on a bus at the time.


:occasion9:

[christianpfc]

I knew this would keep you busy for a few days of my absence (travelling to Thailand and settling in).


Do you find that most of the men on Gay Romeo want money or not? I look at it but I'm uncertain because I don't know that.
I would estimate for me it's about 50/50.


I'm honestly genuinely curious. What did your Thai friend say when you gave him 3 baht?
I don't remember. The situation was the following: I didn't know that guy, we had a short chat and then he told me he wanted to buy some food or drink and he was lacking 3 Baht to pay for it, so I gave him 3 Baht. (Sometimes I can be quite generous, I didn't lend it to him, it was a gift.)


I am stunned to find this thread repeated on all Thailand gay forums. Why? Do you think that people only read only one forum?
I posted it only on three forums. To reach a broader audience, I open new topics usually on two forums.

@rocket: Toy Boys was good, I might go again.

@kittyboy: Hotels are named in my trip reports. In Bkk mainly Penguin House Sathorn and in Bkk mainly Two Guys Guesthouse. An increasing number of nights is spent staying at friends' places. (If sleep at their place and with them, I don't need a hotel room because I don't bring boys back.)

Small world: I was visiting a Farang friend D who does not read these boards and we were talking about a recent failed flying attempt of a Farang in his area which was a poster on gaytingtong (rhodochrosite, whose reports there did not match up with reality). One of D's friends reads the boards and was writing to D about this article, so D told me that there what kind of crazy people are on this board, whereupon I revealed my identity.

Two days ago I got a health certificate at Bangkok Christian Hospital: "... is in good physical and mental health, free from mental retardation ...".

Oh we know you're not mentally retarded, Christian, just ...............quirky

:smilebox:

[Michal2012]

Great to know about this post. This detail is really useful for many people who want to go there and enjoy the vacation.

[christianpfc]

A friend of mine dosn't write down his expenses, but he estimates them to be around 200 Baht per day. He usually stays at other people's places while they are away and pays only water and electricity (if at all), doesn't drink or smoke, uses busses instead of taxis or BTS/MRT, goes to events that are free (preferrably with free food) like movies at Goethe institute or Alliance Francaise or art exhibitions, eats mainly Thai food (and most importantly does not meet moneyboys). Way to go!

(I am currently in Thailand and hope I can stay here for a year. Internet so far irregular in internet cafes, only important stuff like emails. I will have a lot of reading on the forums to catch up once I am settled in and I might post about expenses for living and working in Thailand with weekend trips all around Thailand.)

[lukylok]

That way of living reminds me of an old joke :
A patient goes to his doctor and asks : "If I eat sparingly, never drink, never have sex with unknown persons, in short, never have fun, will I live longer ? "
And the good doctor answers : " There is no garantee you'll live longer, but I am sure even it your life is short, it will look very long !"

What is your purpose in life : have a big fat safe follow your coffin ?

Money is made to turn over, not to be kept.

[a447]

I've just read Christian's post re: his expenses.


Christian wrote:
Two days ago I got a health certificate at Bangkok Christian Hospital: "... is in good physical and mental health, free from mental retardation ...".

I'd get a second opinion if I were you! :sign5:

PS: I think he's having a lend of everyone.

PS: I think he's having a lend of everyone.I thought Neal is trying to stamp out that sort of thing?

[a447]

What sort of thing??

Members commenting on others posts?

Or posters posting fake info?

What you wrote - having a lend of people.

[a447]

I have no problem at all with 99% of what Christian writes. As some posters have already mentioned, his comprehensive breakdown of costs during his trips would be of great benefit to those who are travelling on a budget. And his photos of the places he visits are great.

However, there were 2 statements in his last post on thread that I thought were barely believable. Here they are:


Two days ago I got a health certificate at Bangkok Christian Hospital: "... is in good physical and mental health, free from mental retardation ...".

Note that Christian is quoting directly from the health certificate.

Would a medical practitioner at a very reputable hospital use the term "mental retardation"???

I can't imagine he would, as it is rather offensive and is not normal medical terminology.

Also, I imagine such a diagnosis would be made by a psychiatrist not a doctor, so did Christian go to the hospital and ask for a psychiatric report? Possible, of course.


I gave him 3 Baht. (Sometimes I can be quite generous, I didn't lend it to him, it was a gift.)

Come on! Christian describing himself as "generous" all because he gave the boy 3 baht?? And then rubbing it in by stating that he actually gave the boy the money and did not consider it a loan (which usually has to be paid back.) Even for someone as careful with money as Christian, that just doesn't ring true. He's having a bit of a laugh.

So that's why I think he is having a lend of us.

But you can, of course, believe what you want.

Up2u.

[ceejay]

Would a medical practitioner at a very reputable hospital use the term "mental retardation"???
Probably not, but I think this medical certificate is a standard Thai immigration form and does use that terminology. Can't prove it - I believe I've seen the form but can't locate it now.

[a447]

Thanks for that info, Ceejay. Seems very strange terminology nevertheless.

It reminds me of the signs they had at Immigration at Narita Airport in Tokyo for many years. Queues for "Japanese" and the rest of us were classified as "aliens"!!!

[Jellybean]

I think the United States also classifies the rest of us as тАЬaliensтАЭ a447.

I remember being in San Diego with two friends, one of whom was 20 and could not therefore enter a bar and have a drink. So we spent every night going across the Mexican border to Tijuana just to get a drink! Every night my friends and I had to line up in the queue headed тАЬAliensтАЭ. I remember saying to a grumpy looking US Immigration Officer, тАЬIтАЩm not an alien, IтАЩm British!тАЭ . . . think I was a bit pie-eyed at the time! : )

[christianpfc]

I qouted exactly from my medical certificate. I did not ask for a psychological report, just a health certificate as it is required when applying for a work permit.

The story with the 3 Baht is true, giving it as a gift instead of a loan and describing this as "being generous" is making fun of you. Everything I post is true, sometimes I embellish it for fun.

[Sooty]

Would a medical practitioner at a very reputable hospital use the term "mental retardation"???
Probably not, but I think this medical certificate is a standard Thai immigration form and does use that terminology. Can't prove it - I believe I've seen the form but can't locate it now.Proving once again a447's total ignorance of Thailand and all things Thai.

[a447]

Oh, silly Sooty! Your inability to comprehend posters' comments is on show yet again. Ceejay said he thought that that was the terminology used on the form, not that it definitely was.

Remember what I said about you making yourself look ridiculous?

Here goes again....sigh


Proving once again a447's total ignorance of Thailand and all things Thai.

I notice you didn't provide the answer, so I guess you must be as ignorant as me. :sign5:

Funny that. I thought that with your superior knowledge of all things Thai, you would have jumped in immediately and cleared it up for us in the post above, rather than have a go at me.

In fact you could have done both in the same post! Now we have to wait until you can come up with the answer. :(

Come on, Sooty! Get googling! :salute:

Stupid, ignorant Sooty!

[Dax]

Don't you just love it?

[Sooty]

Don't you just love it?It's fabulous :glasses7:

[a447]

Dax wrote:
Don't you just love it?

Sure do! I just love the way Sooty finds it impossible to comment on a thread without being negative about someone.
I also love the way he makes sweeping criticism of posters then is unable to substantiate that criticism.

Sooty, it's a simple case of put up or shut up. Back up your criticism with facts and if you don't have any facts, then don't criticise. It's not rocket science.

I mean, I'm still waiting for examples of how I have demonstrated "total ignorance" of all things Thai. I asked you a couple of months ago to respond to a similar statement of yours and you couldn't.

So Sooty, I guess you still don't know the answer to the wording on the medical form.


Proving once again Sooty's total ignorance of Thailand and all things Thai. :sign5:

Don't you just love it?I assume Sooty and latintopxxx make a hobby of yanking a447's chain and he doesn't get it. They must love his reaction.

[a447]

You assume wrong. You are the one who "doesn't get it."

As someone who has only been a member of this board for 3 days, how could you possibly make a meaningful comment on this?

Unless, of course, you have gone over all our previous posts over the years in those 3 days. But obviously you haven't, otherwise you'd have come across this comment I made to Sooty:


you know I don't mind a bit of to and fro.....

So it has nothing to do with yanking anyone's chain. (I wonder where you got that expression from?? :sign5: )

It's about asking posters to cease stupid unsubstantiated criticism and just comment on the original poster's question or the content of a poster's reply. (I note that you had nothing to say on this.)

That is what Neal has been attempting to do with the board but there are still 2 or 3 posters who, like you, "don't get it."

If every reply to a poster's criticism is seen as "having your chain yanked," then why bother asking for comments to be backed by facts?? Some (you, perhaps?) maybe happy with not seeking justification of such negative comments, and good luck to you. To each his own.

But I'm not.

[latintopxxx]

...half the fun is rattling one anothers cages...i do it by being brutally frank about my actions and behaviour....

[Magnum]

It's entertaining to read the discussion between a447 and Sooty. After a horrible day in the office this makes my day.

[loke]

I like that budget , it could work for me

Not everyone is loaded with money like atri I think his forum name was, travelling on business class, staying in hotel suites and tipping boys triple what I can afford.

I always travel economy class, but I'm not a cheap charlie. 700 for a room is perfect , you only need a comfy bed and a shower.

[Sooty]

As the character Francis Urqhart says in House of Cards ""You might very well think so; I couldn't possibly comment".