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bucknaway
September 9th, 2012, 22:10
I often talk to guys who have never been to Thailand and I often give them links for information but I find myself reluctant to tell them about this site out of fear of them being attacked or treated badly.

Am I the only person that thinks this way?

Neal
September 9th, 2012, 23:49
Bucknaway I believe you really are talking about the old Sawatee Gay Thailand. There has been no slagfests, or bullying here nor will it be tolerated and what's more is that I think you already know how I feel about that and have seen no bullying since the takeover last year. Am I wrong?

bucknaway
September 10th, 2012, 00:50
I don't haunt message boards much anymore and now I tend to only click on 3 or 4 threads before I hit the reduce button and go onto other things. I have noticed that posts are deleted at a faster rate and now that you mention it, I don't see the usual fights between members of the board, but there is still a certain animosity shown to anyone that comes and declares they are new.

Have things changed here on how we treat new members? I don't know, I will have to stand back and watch.

September 10th, 2012, 02:40
Do you not agree it would have make more sense if you had "stood back and watched" before making your comments?

:dontknow:

joe552
September 10th, 2012, 02:59
I haven't seen much evidence of animosity towards new members recently. Maybe you could share some examples, bucknaway? Alternatively, if your friends are so sensitive and couldn't find the board on their own, it's probably best you don't mention us "bad people" to them. :occasion9:

bucknaway
September 10th, 2012, 03:15
You two... Sigh... :8(

Daniel-old
September 10th, 2012, 04:40
I find the threads a lot easier to read nowadays. At one time, information of interest was hidden amongst post after post of cryptic jibes and blatant attacks from members embroiled in some (not so) private pissing contest. Things have changed for the better and, for that reason, I would be happy to pass on a link to the Sawatdee forum to gay friends thinking of visiting Thailand.

bucknaway
September 10th, 2012, 05:18
There is a lot of truth in what you say Daniel. Today I was on Gayromeo talking to some guys who had never been to Thailand before. I found myself answering questions related to hotels, bars, massage and activities. One of them I suggested they come here and talk to others about Thailand. The other guy I didn't.

I didn't give him a link to his board because I think he will get well meaning, but bad information from some of the posters here. I find that there are precious few resources to answer the questions that a gay black male would want to know about Thailand. When I first began to ask questions I was given so much bad advice where one guy sent me private messages telling me a completely different experience to expect. He told me that I should expect to be received as if I were a celebrity due to the rarity of my race/nationality.

Now when I find others in the same situation as myself, I talk to them in Private and tell them the reality to expect as experienced firsthand by myself and witnessed by me of the my friends who have traveled with me.

After he has arrived and experienced Thailand I will be more than happy to inform him of this particular forum.

Impulse
September 10th, 2012, 08:15
I didn't give him a link to his board because I think he will get well meaning, but bad information from some of the posters here.
If he read your post about the bois being happy with 500 baht tip,lol, that's bad info but well meaning. Really, you should tell everyone about this board and let them make up their own mind. 96% of your post are good advice and maybe 100% are well meaning.

bucknaway
September 10th, 2012, 08:22
I still talk to guys in Pattaya on Romeo that are money boys that ask for 500 baht and less. But we all have a different reality it seems. I don't try to push my reality onto others, I only tell them how facts are presented to me. I guess they are happy to know that nothing is written in stone and anything is possible.

Impulse
September 10th, 2012, 12:10
I guess you're right...I have to give gay romeo a try.

September 10th, 2012, 15:16
First let me say that I have met Bucknaway and I find him a nice person to have a conversation with and has a fantastic body for an older person. He obviously works very hard at it and it shows. He is understandably very proud of it.

That being said I have to also have to look at the other side of the coin.
You joined the board many years ago when fighting, clawing, biting was th norm. It is not now.
The other thing I need to point out is that it appears that being so proud of your body and the way you dress etc you want to share and I believe causes you some grief of the forum. Few od us have awesome bodies like you and many are either jealous OR just don't want to listen to a thread that a person is slimming down to a 29 and people are grabbing his crotch in the middle of the soi or you get it for free cause they just want to jump into bed with you or finally about your shopping spree, what looks good on you and that you need toi buy hangers for your new clothes.

At least to me, the posts usually appear to be me, me, me. You are a great poster and many of the things you talk about are very interesting and add to this forum. I only suggest that maybe thisw may be part of the problem you see. I try not to talk about all the times I go to Cafe de Amis and Bruno"s and go to Bangok and stay at the Shangri-la and the ammenties and all sorts of spoils I get because many of the posters are on budgets and many just don't want to listen to me, me , me.

It's only my opinion. Trying this you may see less vocal members and want to give out this websites address more. Ceratinly it has to be better tahn years past.

Oliver
September 10th, 2012, 17:07
There is no doubt that the forum has been civilised; I'd not have returned after a five year absence had that not been the case.

artic55
September 10th, 2012, 18:44
Totally agree with you Bucky!

Jellybean
September 11th, 2012, 01:37
I am really surprised at the timing of your topic Bucknaway.

You are a long time and, I would say, a much valued member of this forum. IтАЩm sure you recall more than many of us what this forum used to be like before DaBoss took it over. That is why I am so surprised that you chose to raise this issue now, of all times. Do you honestly not see the enormous positive differences between the old Sawatdee Gay Thailand and the new Sawatdee Gay Forum? It is my view that the best aspects of the old forum have been retained and there are still lots of lively and interesting topics and posts where members are still able to conduct lively debate within the rules of the forum.

I honestly believe that you have not given Neal proper and due credit for saving this board, which may quite possibly gone under if it wasnтАЩt for his timely intervention, and for all the hard work he has put in to turn it around.

And, from what I can see, it is a place where new members are welcome. It is my view that it is the sort of forum that old and new members can post freely without fear of all the worst aspects of the old board.

Indeed I would like to pay particular tribute to one of our newest members, Bruce-nyc, who has, in my opinion, been a breath of fresh air and provided us with so many well written, interesting, witty and informative topics and posts. Surely it is encouraging new members of his calibre that the changes in this board were designed to achieve.

I also think it is still a great place to obtain information about all things Thai and other South-East Asia related topics. From my observations members of this board readily and happily respond to genuine requests for information and updates.

And one last thing, I canтАЩt recall any vicious or nasty attacks on you on this new forum, but I do recall one of the funniest posts, in my opinion, ever made on this forum, when Scottish-guy, in a good natured fashion, poked fun at your post about the actions of the boys when you walk down the streets in Sunee Plaza. Surely even you saw the funny side to his post.

And lastly, none of my friends here in London are interested in Thailand or Thai boys, but if they were, IтАЩd happily encourage them to use this forum.

joe552
September 11th, 2012, 01:44
An excellent post, Jellybean - well done :notworthy:

bucknaway
September 11th, 2012, 07:45
Just me, you're probably right, my posts are more about me and what I am experiencing with relation to preparing to visit Thailand, Being in Thailand or having been to Thailand. I try not to gossip, exaggerate or tell another persons secrets. So the only person I can talk about confidently is myself. Heck... It's not as if I post that Thai guys are groping me on the street, that I have a 29" waist, Waiters in gogo bars trying to flirt with me with the promise of free sex because they always wanted to have sex with an African American guy, and that I almost got raped in a sauna, and that I had sex with the bellboy who helped me check into my room, and that I was offered to be in a porno, and propositioned on the streets of Silom buy a Farang offering thousands of baht and on and on.

I assumed that everyone knew that Thailand was an anything goes type of party place. Not everything happened to me on the same trip but happened over time. They were all experiences worth sharing and I think it would be a damn shame to keep those events secret.

I also shared a guy stealing from me, a woman trying to pick my pocket, nearly getting into a fight at a bar in Patpong. I even posted about a gogo boy trying to get me to leave the bar once he realized I would not off him, telling me there would be no show and that I should go to another bar. There was a show.... and the looks he (The gogo guy who lied to me) gave me told me that he didn't want me to be there. I also talked about the time I met a guy at DJ Station and when we were leaving he was attacked by a group of Thai guys who I thought they were going to kill him. I jumped into the fight before I realized it and was lucky to escape without getting hurt and allowing the situation to calm down.

I can only hope that I continue to have good and bad experiences when in Thailand and I will enjoy them both. I also hope to be able to share this with people who are interested to hear about my adventures.

As far as jealousy goes, if anyone is jealous of me they are stupid and wasting their emotions.

bucknaway
September 11th, 2012, 08:00
I am really surprised at the timing of your topic Bucknaway.


The timing is simply that I was providing help to others on the net but was reluctant to share this site and I figured I would make a post here to get others opinions. I often think that if I am thinking it, others must be thinking the same thing and we turn to guys like you to give us a different perspective.