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lonelywombat
July 26th, 2012, 16:22
cut and paste from http://sosogay.co.uk/2012/travel-malaysia/

some very nice pics also on the site no time to copy.
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Young Tan
Young is a 23-year-old post-graduate Media student who has written for SSG since June 2011 and as of July 2012 is the magazine's Travel Editor.

Malaysia is like the Great Britain of Asia. Not for its temperamental and unpredictable weather, but for its multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society, which makes it stand out from the rest of its neighbours in the worldтАЩs largest continent; two thirds of its population of thirty million are Malays or indigenous, a quarter are of Chinese descent and less than ten percent are Indian тАУ with small pockets of other Asian ethnicities and British, American, European and Australian settlers dotted around the country.

The blend of different Asian influences can be seen in its architecture (thousands of Islamic mosques and hundreds of Chinese and Indian temples can be found all over), cuisine, history, languages (of which there are 137 known to be spoken) and traditions. Additionally, much of Malaysia has managed to retain a semblance of the British and European heritage left behind since it was occupied before and during colonial times.

After it was granted independence from the British Empire in 1957, Malaysia fell into political and racial turmoil and experienced a steep decline in its economy, although rapid progress began again in the 1970s and by the 90s, Malaysia had established itself as one of AsiaтАЩs most promising and prosperous countries. It is now the third richest and most developed country in Southeast Asia behind Singapore and Brunei.

This guide will take you through some of the best places to go to in Malaysia, the things we recommend you see or do and the culinary delights we think you should try. We will also outline what LGBT life is like in Malaysia, what you should careful of when there and where you should visit if you are a gay traveller.

However, it must be kept in mind that while Malaysia continues to try and move forward as one of AsiaтАЩs top developing countries, one prominent aspect that makes it remain a backwards country is the governmentтАЩs not-so friendly stance on homosexuality, as will be detailed later on.

тАШMalaysia: Truly AsiaтАЩ: where to go and what to see?

Cameron HighlandsтАЩ rolling green paddy fields and hills are a beautiful sight to see.

Most people who think of Malaysia will probably automatically envision the countryтАЩs most famous sight тАУ Kuala LumpurтАЩs Pentronas Twin Towers, which was once the tallest building in the world. While the modern and urbanised setting of Kuala Lumpur may appeal to those who are used to a bustling city life, good shopping and an eclectic nightlife are probably the only two major attractions тАУ aside from the many fancy government buildings. The rest of the country has so much more to offer than that.

Besides the big cities, MalaysiaтАЩs diverse landscape ranges from breathtaking mountaintops to rocky caves and from beautiful beaches to untamed rainforests. Much of the country is mountainous тАУ especially in the centre of its lands. Although the majority of its mountains are inaccessible by foot or road, two areas that are popular destinations for tourists тАУ especially for the much cooler climates тАУ are Cameron Highlands and Genting Highlands. Cameron Highlands is known for its lush green pastures while Genting is more of a popular hotel and theme park resort.

The coast of Penang Island during sunset.

Harbours and beaches are commonly found along the west coast of the Malay Peninsula тАУ two of the most well-known areas being Penang to north near Thailand and Malacca, southwest of Kuala Lumpur. Much of Penang, notably George Town, is where most of the British invaders settled during colonial times and therefore a great deal of British-influenced buildings were established there. The beach area along Penang Island, known as тАШBatu FerringhiтАЩ тАУ literally meaning тАШForeignerтАЩs RockтАЩ тАУ is a hotspot with tourists and the тАШpasar malamтАЩ (night market) is very popular too; itтАЩs a good place to find great trinkets, extremely cheap bargains and of course, a tonne of knock-off goods тАУ including fake designer perfumes.

While Penang experienced a strong British presence, Malacca was moulded by the Dutch and Portuguese during the 16th and 17th Centuries, before the British took over in the 1800s. Much of it is now split into two halves, with the Portuguese influence on one side of the Malacca River, and the Dutch on the other. MalaccaтАЩs rich and intriguing history means there is plenty to explore for such small city and it therefore attracts a vast number of tourists тАУ helped by the city having been listed as a World Heritage site in 2008, alongside George Town. The river cruise that travels up and down the river inbetween the two settlements is definitely worth a few ringgit for the unique sights youтАЩll spot along the way.

The picturesque views along the Malacca river.

Langkawi is famous for its beautiful, clean beaches.

For a more relaxing getaway amongst the beaches, seas and islands, the islands of Langkawi are the place to go. This cluster of about 100 small islands тАУ including the largest, Langkawi Island тАУ lies further north of Penang, right by the border to Thailand. The area remains virtually untouched despite its big boost in tourism, and the beaches are even more pristine. Many of the islands consist of mountains and hills, forests and natural vegetation.Lastly, Borneo, to the east of the Malay Peninsula, is another recommended destination тАУ especially if you want to do something other than laze around sunbathing on beaches all day. Roughly a quarter of this island тАУ the vast majority of which is lowland and mountainous rainforests тАУ belongs to Malaysia (it is also known as East Malaysia), nearly three quarters belong to Indonesia and the little remainder is owned by Brunei. For expeditions to MalaysiaтАЩs highest peaks and along its longest rivers тАУ oh, and of course to see its variety of wildlife, including the orang-utan тАУ Borneo is perfect for those looking for a real, wild adventure whilst visiting Malaysia.

Asian fusion at its finest: cuisine

Char kway teow: One of MalaysiaтАЩs most famous Chinese-influenced dishes.

Malaysian cuisine тАУ like the country itself тАУ is multinational; drawing influences from a mixture of different ethnic cooking styles and cultures, including Malay, Chinese, Indian, Indonesian, Singaporean, Javanese and Middle Eastern. The majority of dishes are cooked and served with rice, noodles, bread or soup. And a word of warning: Malaysians like their spicy food.

Highly recommended foods that are famous in certain parts of the country include: тАШnasi lemakтАЩ тАУ usually considered the national dish тАУ consists of fragrant rice cooked in coconut milk and served with curry and vegetables; тАШchar kway teowтАЩ тАУ a dish which is popular in Penang тАУ contains stir-fried noodles with egg, meat (seafood, pork, chicken or fishcakes), bean sprouts and Chinese chives; тАШroti canaiтАЩ (Indian-influenced flatbread), тАШais kacangтАЩ, an ice-cold dessert made with red beans; тАШbak kut tehтАЩ, a hotpot soup of pork ribs with vegetables and herbs and spices; and тАШputu mayamтАЩ тАУ vermicelli-like noodles made from mixing rice flour with water and coconut milk. And of course, durian fruit - known as тАШthe king of the fruitsтАЩ in Southeast Asia тАУ is a must, if you dare. The large, pungent durian is like the marmite of the fruit world; you either love its bitter taste and strong odour, or you hate it.

The downside: LGBT rights are non-existent

Without wanting to put you off from traveling to and exploring such a diverse and beautiful country, the big black mark with regards to Malaysia is its absence of LGBT rights and condemnation of the community by political figures and the state-controlled media. A typically strict and predominantly Islamic country, Malaysia retains its colonial era penal code that criminalises sodomy, with punishments ranging from fines and caning to imprisonment or even death, and Muslims also being subject to punishment in Islamic courts under Sharia Law. In 2000, the former deputy Prime Minister was accused of corruption and committing sodomy, was found guilty and was subsequently imprisoned. He was released in 2004, but was again arrested in 2008 after further accusations against him from a political opponent were made. As of January 2012 he was acquitted of all charges and has since emphasised the need for liberalisation, including stating that he believed the national criminal laws against homosexuality should be reformed in order to protect consenting adultsтАЩ rights to privacy, although he also said that gay marriage is тАШgoing a bit too farтАЩ.

тАШQueer Without FearтАЩ: the fight for LGBT rights

тАШQueer Without FearтАЩ: The 2011 slogan for Seksualitii Merdeka.

While life in Malaysia may be daunting and dangerous for LGBT people, particularly for its native Malays, there are still those fighting for their rights. Seksualiti Merdeka, or тАЩIndependent SexualityтАЩ, is an annual festival that was launched in 2008 and is held in Kuala Lumpur. It is similar to a Pride in some aspects and the festival consists of talks, performances, screenings, workshops and forums. It aims to support the LGBT community in Malaysia, as well as promote and tackle issues faced by them. Although repeatedly hounded by local authorities who wish for it to be banned, the festival and the organisation has continued to operate.

The PT (Pink Triangle) Foundation is another pro-LGBT organisation that supports people who are vulnerable to тАУ or are living with тАУ HIV and Aids; mainly gay and bisexual men, transgender people, sex workers and drug users.

While these laws were put in place by the government and backed by religion, the main consensus in general society is that homosexuality is mainly ignored or simply not talked about тАУ especially within families тАУ but it is usually the non-Malays who are the safest from being persecuted. Despite all this, LGBT nightlife in Malaysia, which could be described as being very much on the lowdown, is still present. Although very few venues are predominantly gay, there is an increasing number of businesses which are тАШgay-friendlyтАЩ, whether they be bars, clubs, cafes, restaurants, spas, saunas, gyms or hotels, and are hence frequented by many LGBT visitors. A few rare, gay-owned places to check out include: Frangipani, a French restaurant and bar owned by a gay couple in KL; Blue Boy, Kuala Lumpur and MalaysiaтАЩs oldest gay club; Enigma, KLтАЩs popular lesbian-owned bar; and Nine Krub Cafe in Penang. Both Kuala Lumpur and Penang, as well as other large cities, also have a number of places that host gay nights or attract large crowds of LGBT people, a full list of which can be found here.

Aside from the countryтАЩs lack of gay rights, Malaysia is definitely still worth a visit тАУ and not just for a pit-stop in KL on the way to and from Australia. The country has so much to see, do, and learn about тАУ and has scenic spots, areas and attractions to suit, please and wow everyone. It is, however, highly recommended that you travel by road or even hire a car; public transport is still behind the times. In summary, MalaysiaтАЩs natural wonders, unique meld of modernity and tradition and various Asian cultures with that of the Western world, certainly help it live up to its national tourism slogan, тАШMalaysia: Truly AsiaтАЩ

christianpfc
July 27th, 2012, 04:39
some very nice pics also on the site no time to copy.

I thought the pics were of gay boys :-(

Beachlover
August 21st, 2012, 12:44
Interesting read... Thanks LW.

It's true government attitude and social attitudes towards gays in Malaysia is very backwards...

But I reckon people thinking about visiting should avoid letting that turn them off and focus on the fact that Kuala Lumpur does have a fantastic, vibrant and fairly friendly gay scene. Lots of gay nightclubs to choose from and Malaysian guys (ethnic and Chinese) are v cute!

atri1666
August 21st, 2012, 14:38
I like KL very much. Will stay there again in november for 2 weeks. No need for money for fun.

danny99
September 28th, 2012, 14:27
I like KL very much. Will stay there again in november for 2 weeks. No need for money for fun.
I have always found KL to be one of the easiest cities in Asia to 'find someone'. Even straight saunas in KL 5 star hotels have often had some pleasant surprises for me. Both the young Malays and Chinese seem to be hot and willing if 'handled' discreetly.

In many ways it reminds me of Sydney in the 60's when nothing was ever talked about, only the very effeminate were 'labelled'...no one discussed it but everyone did it! Particularly in the teen and early 20 category.

That discreet availability seems to disappear when everything comes out into the open?

I recall my 1st visit to Stockholm in the early 70's [Sweden was then considered to be the most liberal law-wise as to gay rights, and sex in general, in the world] I was amazed to discover that the young were freaked out by anything gay, because everything was so open everyone was immediately labelled [black or white] so the 60% of in-betweens [my target market] were totally paranoid...happy to come to Copenhagen for the weekend but terrified to be seen in the wrong place or with questionable company in Stockholm].

Evolution is good for some not so for others.

atri1666
November 29th, 2012, 14:22
Now i am here for mor ethan one week and i only can confirm i like my stay again. Every day lots of hot sex. Walk 5 min. from my hotel to Day Thermos. All days never was money involved. With Utopiacard i pay 15 RM entry. Some days they are hunting for white meat. Great fun.
I also can access here and in the sauna all gay sites without any problems. Sitting in coffeeshops you can surf free in the internet and also there no problems with any gay sites. I asked also some men and boys and they confirmed not to have problems at home with blocked sites.

JamesII
December 10th, 2012, 08:14
Why so much poverty in Malaysia..go to JB and have a quick look..if it was not for Singapore across the bridge they would
sink fast..too many Muslims and they are lazy and no fucking good there...same as KL..bad poverty..sorry to say its not
a good place to live if you are not a Muslim..

atri1666
December 12th, 2012, 23:31
I dont agree!

nanette
December 13th, 2012, 08:31
On the whole Malaysian cities & towns are pleasant if you avoid certain stretches of dirty streets normally close to wet markets or hawker stalls due to inefficient rubbish disposals. Similar scenes are found in most Asian cities in developing countries. But that shouldn't discourage one from meeting men in the smarter parts of the cities. Why head for the slums? :duel:

peeseua
December 16th, 2012, 20:22
I wonder why some people have such a problem with Malaysia, my country, and Muslims. While we cannot possibly claim to have eradicated poverty (unlike some posters' countries of origin), I think a simple look around by anyone who's actually been to my country will show that we enjoy a pretty comfortable standard of living, Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

I wonder if it's just another case of "They say Sunee is bad so it must be a horrific place, ergo I've never been there and tell everyone else about how awful it is precisely for that reason."

atri1666
December 16th, 2012, 20:41
I wonder also very much. My last recent stay convinced me to stay more often in KL. Easy immigration now without any paperwork.

petr55
December 19th, 2012, 18:38
Many people who denegrade Malaysia are ex-malaysians who left the country because of the politics.

peeseua
December 19th, 2012, 23:08
Many people who denegrade Malaysia are ex-malaysians who left the country because of the politics.

Most of them are people whose parents benefitted from the system and then sent them overseas to study and then, when they found the new countries more liberal, decided to stay on. Of course, once these newly minted Americans/Europeans/Australians (or whatever) got their citizenship, they decided that it was okay to forget where they came from, how they got to where they are and how many of their relatives, including their parents, are still living in Malaysia, so they proceed to do everything they can to bring Malaysia down. They never stop to think of the consequences to their families if the Malaysian economy failed or a fundamentalist government came into power, for example. They just want to feel good destroying their former country. They will tell everyone they meet or come into contact with that "There is no corruption in America/Europe/Australia (or wherever)" in spite of evidence to the contrary.

They will say that their parents could never get promotions, better wages, etc. because of racism or corruption or politics but they never mention that somehow their parents managed to earn enough money to feed them well and then, after they finished secondary schooling, send them overseas for further education while the old folks are living and working in Malaysia - for the Malaysian government, too, in a number of cases. They will never tell others that their parents also get or earn enough to visit them in ther new countries for holidays and shopping trips. Oh no! That would be making Malaysia look too good for their liking.