Bars to close for 3 days for HRH funeral April 8,9,10

[lonelywombat]

cut and paste from the National today

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nationa ... 78161.html (http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Night-spots-to-close-April-8-10-for-princess-funer-30178161.html)
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Night entertainment venues will be asked to suspend their businesses from April 8-10 during the funeral of Her Royal Highness Princess Bejaratana, while other private enterprises will be asked to fly national flags at half-mast on their premises, PM's Office permanent secretary Thongthong Chandrangsu said yesterday.

Television and radio broadcasts should air programmes or content considered appropriate during the three-day period, he added.

Updating the progress of the preparations for the funeral service, he said the crematorium for the late Princess is coloured in gold - the standard colour for a royal funeral - and pink, the shade representing Tuesday, the day of the princess' birth.

"The combined shades of the crematorium are especially soft and reflect femininity," Thongthong said.

This crematorium is smaller than that built for the late HRH Princess Galyani Vadhana, because HRH Princess Bejaratana's body is contained in an urn, while that of HRH Princess Galyani Vadhana was placed in a casket.

Three rehearsals of the April 9 funeral service for HRH Princess Bejaratana have been scheduled for this month. Two minor rehearsals are set for this Sunday and March 25, before a grand rehearsal on March 31.

The main pavilion, crematorium and other buildings will be open for the public to visit from April 11-17. A permanent exhibition in honour of the late princess will be installed at Nakhon Pathom's Sanam Chandra Palace, which was built by King Rama VI. HRH Princess Bejaratana, who died last July 27 at the age of 85, was the only child of King Rama VI.

The late princess' ashes will be collected on the morning after the April 9 cremation and escorted to Dusit Maha Prasart Throne Hall. On April 12, a ceremony will be held to mark the ashes' permanent placement in the Throne Hall.

A meeting of the government's organising committee on March 24 will be attended by HRH Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn, the chief adviser to the panel, at the suggestion of His Royal Highness Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn, who is the executive chairman of the panel.

:-((.......really !? everywhere closing again for THREE nights ?? - and bang in the middle of the Easter holiday break when most people who only perhaps get a one week break at Easter have already booked to travel to Thailand - and I'd look over it but I if I read correctly the Princess (may she rest in peace) actually passed away in JULY of last year, so without my knowing the details is that for a religious reason that the funeral has to wait so long to be held now or for some other reason perhaps ?

You know between funerals, elections, riots and dear knows what else I can't actually remember a time recently that I've visited Thailand when they haven't shut the place down for a day or two each time for some random reason, it must be costing the Country a small fortune in lost tourist revenue !

deleted due to disrespect to the Royal Family DaBoss

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deleted due to disrespect of the Royal Family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bejaratana_Rajasuda

A member of the Thai Royal family and I imagine that the Thai people probably care greatly and we as tourists in their Country should of course respect that.......even though the timing may be not particularly pleasing "to us" I'm sure that we'll all be mindful of the board owners ( and also in turn then our own) responsibilities with regard to conversations regarding such matters.

[billy2bs]

Only bars? I pro test!!!

[a447]

Justme, will Happy Place be closing for those days??

[UncleTom]

And in May Pattaya has Mayoral elections ...
http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/itthiphol-announces-mayoral-re-election-bid-10870

We are never told until we get a lot closer to the date but we will put in a call to the attorny and see if he knows anything. I can only assume that if this is what was said, this is what they mean. Keep updated on this website.

[martin911]

Nirish i would suggest Manila for that time when the places are closed in Bkk -- once you try it i would be suprised if you didnt want to go back !!
i spent last weekend there and as usual had great fun in the clubs in Malate-- very few farang there so they make you feel very welcome -- and not about money -- just normal gay horny guys looking for fun !!

[topjohn5]

So, why exactly can't places be open but just not serve alcohol?
I assume that the restaurants are open. Do they serve alcohol? How about the hotels?

[jinks]

I will be serving drinks in my room at the Venue.

And be carrying a half bottle of bacardi in my pocket, just in case, I get offered a coke.

[aot871]

What happens in pattaya , when the council elections appear like some one has already stated will happen in may , do the bars close the night before voating and all the next day?

[joe552]

jinks, was that a general invite up to your room? I'll bring my own Coke :hello2:

[jinks]

I always make it known when I'm in town.

Anyone who wants their face known to me are welcome to call.

This trip....

Koh Samui April 2 - 6
Ark Bar Beach Resort, 159/75 Moo2, Chaweng Beach.

The Venue 6 - 14.
You know where it is.

I'm by the pool most afternoons. Evenings in the nearest Show bar at least every other night.
In Koh Samui that's The Starz Cabaret......

http://www.jinkscorp.com/hols/thai/samui/starzCast10/slides/street2.jpg

[joe552]

yes, jinks, but what times are you available in your room for the free Bacardi?

He plys you with the Bacardi to get you INTO his room.

[joe552]

thanks scottish - now I understand why he's so popular with the expat crowd :party

[Dodger]

Bars closed April 8,9,10...

Great...I arrive on April 7th...so I'll have 3 nights to nurse the hangover.

[zinzone]

The report says:

"Night entertainment venues will be asked to suspend their businesses"

-So does this mean its a request which may be declined or a command which must be followed?

The report says: "Night entertainment venues will be asked to suspend their businesses"
-So does this mean its a request which may be declined or a command which must be followed?

And has it perhaps been carefully worded to allow a certain degree of lee way and personal discretion on the bar owner / policeman's opinion as to "is" a bar actually an entertainment venue at all,

Or is it merely "just" a bar, with the term entertainment venue perhaps intentionally intended to refer to somewhere much larger such as cinemas and bigger show venues such as Alcatraz / Tiffany etc but not tiny go-go bars where one might argue they are not places of entertainment at all but merely somewhere one goes to get a drink and perhaps meet up with some company ?

As I mentioned earlier on in this thread, it does nothing but get everyone excited and upset by trying to predict what will be in the minds of the mayor, police and all as the days approach. Many of you seem facinated to discuss this now as though Pattaya or Thailand is a regularly thought out country when in fact it is an instantaneous country. One that decides the one or two days prior to an event as to what their regualtions will be and circulate a hand delivered notice to the bars.

I believe we have a lot to deal with in April but I may be incorrect.
We have the funeral for the Princess. There were times that the King has encouraged police and mayors not to close venues. Will this be one time? Who knows.

We have some elections in Pattaya I am told by posters? Same with above but also take into consideration that Pattaya is divided into districts. Last election bars were individually closed in only certain districts. our was not required to close.

And if my memory serves me correct,isn't the Queen's Birthday in April? Not 100% sure. Well the added problem with that is not if or not they close you down but all the boys consider this Mother's Day and if the same holds true from last year (sure it will) the boys insist on going home to see their mothers.

So hang on to your shorts and just relax and I am sure as the info gets released, we will post it as quickly as we can. I am pretty sure the different lawyers for the bars will have some idea as to the happenings via whispering around City Hall and will release it to us as available. Until then and even then, there is nothing anyone can do.

[topjohn5]

The Queen's Birthday is August 12th...

Until then and even then, there is nothing anyone can do.

Whilst I 100% understand and fully accept what you've said Neal re your last point above I would add that there is something "some" people can do and that's simply to travel somewhere else over that weekend ( and in reality week), that week of course being Easter and hence probably the 2nd busiest holiday week throughout the whole of Europe.

And for those unlike myself (who have on looking at the unavailability and high cost of flights to LOS at the moment) have already undoubtedly pre-booked their trips, the lost revenue even in bar takings and entertainment venues right across the country must be HUGE not to mention the negative international P.R. for those who suddenly find 3 nights out of their 5 night holiday seriously curtailed, all of which is then passed ( if you follow standard marketing precepts) by word of mouth to at least 8-10 other couples when they get home.

So, whilst I know that's it's just one of those things and T.I.T etc but for the Government to allow (and actually cause) this situation these situations to continually happen is fairly incredible and shows just how removed they are from their much vaunted claim of trying to make Thailand the No 1 tourist destination in SE Asia :-(

So, whilst I do understand what you say about "it'll simply be down to the Mayor on the day" etc, but the next time the town hall guy comes round to collect your tax ( as I'm guessing that's the one thing that they're not disorganised about lol) maybe you should just offer him a bit less explaining how their decisions hit your trade and resulted in a lower take for you and then maybe next time they'll think it all through a bit better :-)........and yeah ok I KNOW there's absolutely NO possibility of ANY of that happening and they simply wouldn't give a shit and just close you down in a instant but it's a nice pipe dream to have, right ? :-) lol

Meanwhile I'm genuinely sitting here now having to decide should I risk that first (closed) weekend in BKK, with possibly DJ etc closed (or at least muted) and then the second weekend, that being Songkran in Pattaya - or just go to the Philppines and not have to worry about any of the above as the two trips are almost EXACTLY the same price but I know the Ph's will be MUCH less expensive once I get there .......decisions decisions ? eh :-)

Let me get this right - the suggestion is that the Thais ought to compromise their way of dealing with official funerals because some sex-obsessed, gin-soaked tourists might find it difficult to get their hole for 3 days?

Does no-one remember the media-stoked mass hysteria which broke out in (most of) the UK when a certain overhyped regal personage died in a car crash in a tunnel in Paris? The whole country shut down for a week!

Let the Thais handle their own business their own way - and if tourists don't like it then they can stay at home.

:occasion9:

Let me get this right - the suggestion is that the Thais ought to compromise their way of dealing with official funerals because some sex-obsessed, gin-soaked tourists might find it difficult to get their hole for 3 days?

Yes, that's it exactly !! Thank god !! now you're getting it !!! lol



Let the Thais handle their own business their own way - and if tourists don't like it then they can stay at home


To be fair no one was arguing the point that they shouldn't conduct their business however they see fit but there's nothing wrong in simply pointing out the bleeding obvious that they're going on the rest of the year worldwide about their wonderful tourism product and then do stuff like this which shoots in it in the foot and for a country that gets so much of it's income from tourism I'm guessing that "then stay at home" probably wouldn't be the message they would wish to convey actually.

Ok, your position seems straightforward, but just for consistency - when Brenda finally shrugs off her mortal coil (can't be long now surely), you'll be against England closing down for the funeral then?

Of course, before that (and asap please) England will be shutting down for a few days for the state funeral for Saint Margaret of Thatcher.

:party

[a447]

I'm with you on this one, Nirishguy.

Apparently April 6 is also a holiday so 4 days of my first week may be sex free! Horror of horrors. I am also thinking of going somewhere else for the first week - maybe back to Cambodia.

I wouldn't be so pissed off if I was sure ALL night entertainment was curtailed, but I'm sure bars and clubs in the 5 star hotels will be pumping away. Seems hypocritical and yet another example of the Thai Tourist Authority shooting itself in the foot.

But I am aware that these things happen, especially in Asia. I remember when Emperor Hirohito of Japan died back in 89. T.V. shows were cancelled for days. no=one went shopping at glitzy stores and although the bars were open, some did not serve alcohol and others did not allow karaoke. Blow jobs at the bar, however, were not affected!

I wonder if the massage joints will be open.

Then again, I just remembered. A forum member was kind enough to PM me with a guy's tel number - a guy we have both enjoyed (no, not together!). Thanks, mate.

when Brenda finally shrugs off her mortal coil (can't be long now surely), you'll be against England closing down for the funeral then?

No, England can close for a month for all I care (as I live in Northern Ireland :-)) - but seriously, and to answer your question - For (any) Head of State I think it's quite acceptable for an event to mark the occasion of their passing etc, however (and not wanting to get into it too much of course on here) but if the member of say the BRITISH royal family died, say Princess Anne to close things down for three days would to me seem a little excessive - but I know Thai's do perhaps hold their royal family in a much higher regard than perhaps British people regarding our own royal family ( although I did discuss this with a few Thai friends and they weren't just too sure who I was talking about perhaps - but I'll leave it at that!) but ultimately you're quite right of course, it is their country and it's "up to them".

But to me the more interesting issue was the need to hold the funeral on EXACTLY the Easter weekend when the Princess passed away back in September (I did ask that question in my first blog that was perhaps for some religious reason perhaps?) and if so "fair enough" but if not then why the long delay and I would question the wisdom, when your Country does depend on the tourist baht so much, to wipe out a large chunk of income for the Kingdom that's totally avoidable and perhaps causes poor PR - again all perhaps totally avoidably ?

And of course as Neal has pointed out even once they make the declaration there's then this "unknown" element of the local mayors etc and whether the rules are going to be enforced or not which again just makes things even more confusing for tourists deciding where to go to spend their money.

And to be clear ( and for the record) I DO fully accept that it's Thailand, it's their country to do in what they please and I am only ever a guest there and you're quite right, if we (or I) simply don't like it don't come - I FULLY accept that point - but it still doesn't mean one can't comment how daft ( and avoidable) it all seems from an outsiders point of view, but I think the phrase (as always) which best fits this situation is "this is thailand" and leave it at that, because as Neal has already pointed out I am of course thinking and looking at this from a Westerners point of view which is of course pointless and of no consequence to Thais.

I should add that if I'm reading things right all they are "maybe" talking about is closing bars and nightclubs etc ( which I doubt will ACTUALLY happen anyway - which just means no drink - but they haven't put a bar on anyone having sex !! :-) but if they try that then I'm DEFINITELY not coming !! - in every sense of the word it seems !!! lol

.... the member of say the BRITISH royal family died....


I like the way your emphasise BRITISH (but the actual point I was making was that England would undoubtedly close down but there would be considerably less wailing and gnashing of teeth in the rest of BRITAIN - especially in the case of Thatcher).

Northern Ireland (since you brought it up) is not part of Great BRITAIN at all - as I'm sure you well know.

:evil4:

I like the way you emphasise BRITISH

I was simply ( and only) emphasising the word British in my reply so that there was absolutely NO doubt that I was in no way talking about the Thai royal family by any chance to avoid any issues on that score.

"
" there would be considerably less wailing and gnashing of teeth in the rest of BRITAIN).

Actually I think you're very wrong about that as I believe that Scotland and Wales would be equally as sad to see her Majesty passing as all of the other parts of the UK, she is after all also your Queen Elizabeth the first, Queen of Scotland too you know ! - but I'm sure you well know that ! lol

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Northern Ireland (since you brought it up) is not part of Great BRITAIN at all - as I'm sure you well know.

Actually I mentioned Northern Ireland simply as you'd talked about "England" closing down, I wasn't implying that N.I was part of Britain in the geographical sense as yes like every school boy I am aware that the term Britain refers only to England, Wales and Scotland, which must I'm sure give you some small comfort in knowing that should Scotland vote for independence you will still of course be British :-) ....but hey it's much too early on a beautiful Sunday morning for such talk so I'll leave it at that :)

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Ok - as you say, it's getting off topic (and I'm mostly to blame for that, so I won't carry it on) - but maybe you could PM me your reasoning that in an Independent Scotland, Scots would be British? Or are you saying something different?

My thinking was that since Great Britain was created ONLY by the political Union of England and Scotland in 1707, then if/when that Union is dissolved then BRITAIN ceases to exist. If it ceases to exist then neither the English nor the Scots will be BRITISH.

Lizzie#1 would still, of course be Queen of Scots (NOT Queen of Scotland incidentally)

So, I'll stop derailing the topic now and await your PM if you want to explain further.

:alc:

My thinking was that since Great Britain was created ONLY by the political Union of England and Scotland in 1707

I think you're getting confused, in 1603 the Union of Crowns and the Acts of Union of both 1707 and 1800 formed the United Kingdom not Britian as of course the islands of the British Isles have of course existed for a millennia before that Act of Union so no matter what happens "politically" on those islands the people living on them still come from the british Isles and so geographically speaking at least are by default British.

But you're right, we're getting off topic and as I always treat this board like a bar room and any good Irishman knows the two topics never to talk about in a bar are politics and religion we'd better get back on topic......so yes, open the bars and cut the crap please - there i think that was the crux of my earlier point ! lol

[jinks]

So, I'll stop derailing the topic now


But you're right, we're getting off topic ............ we'd better get back on topic......so yes, open the bars and cut the crap please




Thank you both for the above.

This is OUTRAGEOUS - this is NOT what jinks originally posted (i have it on a PM) - he stated that NIrishGuy and I were factually WRONG - now he can't substantiate it, he has disguised the fact that he changed his original post and has amended his post - an abuse of moderation

Disgusting!

But I'll still take a Bacardi

I'm guessing he like me probably just lost the will to live half way through the discussion and initally thought "oh shut up the pair of you" and then being the nice guy that he is and like all good moderators thought he would simply moderate his words :-).........ps mine's a double now Jinks ! :-)

[joe552]

Here, you two - I put my name down first for the Bacardi :violent1:

[Neal]

I just spoke to the attorney that represents most bar owners on Soi 1 and 2 and the answers I received were predictable:

Who died?

When did she die?

What was her name?

No, we have not heard anything and we will just have to wait until we are closer to the dates and we will get the letter.

TIT!

[BonTong]

The last Royal funeral was that of HRH Princess Galyani Vadhana, sister of HRH the King, Bhumibol Adulyadej. She was cremated in November 2008.

In Chiang Mai I remember sitting at home watching the funeral on TV whilst supping a couple of ales. I assume this means the local bars were closed though my recollection is somewhat hazy :drunken: . IIRC the edict then was for the bars to be respectful, no live music, loud music, or other inappropriate entertainment or activity. This was for a period of five days. I think most Thai owned bars closed for the night of the funeral itself out of respect, rather than because they were ordered too (Subtle difference :8( ), but were open, selling alcohol and otherwise being respectful the other nights.

From the report cited in the OP it mentions "night entertainment venues" rather than bars i.e the selling of alcohol and the provision of entertainment are not the same thing. I suspect this funeral will be similar to the last, though a completely different set of rules/guidelines may apply in Pattaya.

The whole event was quite a pageant with some interesting cultural shows and displays after the cremation. I was surprised to find myself drawn in to watching them. So if the bar closures are cutting into your holiday, instead of bitching and moaning about it, get in some beer, order room service and watch the event on TV, it's a rare chance to see Thai ritual culture and you may be pleasantly surprised.

[Neal]

and I am sure that there will be boys hanging outside their respective bars cause they still need to eat and pay room!

[Marsilius]

Perhaps the officials who put out the notice were thinking of - or, perhaps more accurately, thinking up - a distinction as follows...

In a BAR you can go for a drink and conceivably be quiet and maybe even sorrowful (the expression"drowning your sorrows" comes to mind). Thus an official fiction could be maintained that bar customers are spending their time fondly reminiscing in a respectful way about the late, lamented dignitary. As a result, that venue could be allowed to operate.

In an ENTERTAINMENT VENUE the customers have, by definition gone to be entertained - i.e. to enjoy the occasion, laugh, smile and so on. That sort of behaviour would clearly be inappropriate in a period of national mourning and so the venue ought to be banned.

Of course, maintaining such a casuistic distinction flies in the face of the experiences that many of us customers have enjoyed (?) in places that label themselves as entertainment venues but where, in reality, laughter and smiles are as rare as boys whose families have no sick buffalo.

[fedssocr]

Rather than cry about bars being closed for a couple of days, take it as an opportunity to experience some unique Thai culture. I was in Laos when they did the funeral for the King's sister. But I recall the crematorium being open to all and had a chance to visit it before the funeral (I think it was before...). It was fascinating. And it is interesting that they build these ornate buildings to be temporary structures.

[BonTong]

Chiang Mai also has Municipal elections on Sunday 8th April. The districts cover all of the main city areas where the bars are. Therefore bars likely shut 6 p.m. Saturday 7th through after the funeral (not officially confirmed).

http://www.gayinchiangmai.com/News/2012/upcoming-holidays-and-events/

Whilst this may sound absurd to tourists, from a Thai perspective the choice of dates makes sense for more reasons than just astrology and auspicious dates. The weekend before Songkran is one of the quietest of the year for Thai bars; most Thais are staying in and saving their money for the big event. :idea1:

[Patexpat]

Rather than cry about bars being closed for a couple of days, take it as an opportunity to experience some unique Thai culture. .

Agree 100%. I turned the TV on to watch the last Royal funeral, intending to have a quick look-see, but was drawn in to what can only be described as a a fantastic opportunity to watch what amounted to an amazing spectacle.

Ok I'll compromise with you both.....how about I go to a bar, buy a few beers AND watch the funeral on TV, then everyone's happy ! lol

[fedssocr]

or you could just stop at 7-11 and buy some beers and have your own party instead of going to a bar.

or you could just stop at 7-11 and buy some beers and have your own party instead of going to a bar.

ACTUALLY !! that's a GREAT idea ! I'd forgotten that I've booked one of those Mosaic prestige apartment things rather than my normal very average hotel room in the Copa so that's EXACTLY what I should do, myself and a few Thai guys and a bottle of Whiskey or three and a large pile of condoms !.......oh and the TV turned on in the corner of course as I wouldn't want to miss the cultural part of the evening. Lol

I am joking :-) but that does actually sound like a plan, watching it in the apartment whilst having a few drinks with a bit of Thai company who can explain exactly what's going on - Culture AND Beer then eh - who ever thought the two would go together so well ! lol :-)

[stevehadders]

Does anybody know the mechanics of the closure ie are the clubs open as late on Saturday 7th/coming into Sunday early hours, or does the closure take effect just after midnight?
I arrive this Thursday and just planning my first few days. Thanks :party

[colmx]

I see the Yaya of Sunnee has posted over on GBs forum that they have received official closure notification for the 8,9 and 10th

Sounds like its gonna be an awful quiet start to the easter/songkran for some of us!

Think its time to start looking up the price of flights to singapore or HK!

[martin911]

Are the orders just related to the venues ??

IE--- is there a ban on alcohol sales in all venues (7-11s etc ) ????

im sure you got a fridge and some cupboards martin ... drinks have a shelf life of more than 3 days dont ya know ...
but then again i get the feeling you might be a bit like me on this one ... i.e. if its there you;ll drink !!

[cdnmatt]

I'm curious, does anyone know what's been going on in the past few days? Is this to do with the funeral, or what's happening? Or is it because the rainy season has started, or because Songkran will be here shortly, or what?

Every day for the past 3 days now though, the neighbors have had huge spreads laid out for the monks. They have tables setup with loads of bags of rice, mama noodles, soap, detergent, etc. They've been giving about 40 times more food to the monks than they generally give.

Anyone know what that's about? Kim doesn't tell me anything, and when I ask the neighbors, they'll speak way too quickly in Thai for me to understand.

[anonone]

I have been curious as well. Some closings in Isaan (Post office) that seemed to be early for either the funeral or songkran. BF doesn't know how to explain in English, and my Thai is not nearly good enough (yet)

I did manage to get out it had something to do with "the King", so I thought maybe an early start for the funeral proceedings.

He did also mention going to Wat for a "big Buddha day", which I think was on Saturday....maybe something related to that?

[cdnmatt]

Ohhh, maybe I know. Isn't the beginning of the rainy season when the novice monks go live in the temple for a few months?

You know how generally, all Thais will become a monk for anywhere from a week to 3 months, once in their lives? Isn't it right now when they start their journey of living in the temple? So all the temples are maybe stocking up for the novice monks?

And thinking about that, my neighbors son is 19 (looks about 35 though :)), and I haven't seen him in a few days. Maybe he fucked off to the temple for a few months. That would actually make sense, because my neighbor is quite poor, and there's no way she can afford the amount she's been giving. Maybe doing it for her son.

EDIT: Just asked Kim, and yep, that's exactly what's happening. Novice monks are off their once in a lifetime journey to the temples! Alright, got 'er figured! Now what do I do? I don't have the time or patience to put the rice in individual bags like my neighbor. How stupid would it be to pickup a couple 30kg bags from the village, and drop it off at the temple? :-) I'm happy to help and all, but get fucked if you think I'm sitting here for hours, putting 3 baht of rice in little individual baggies.

[psd1315]

I'm curious, does anyone know what's been going on in the past few days? Is this to do with the funeral, or what's happening? Or is it because the rainy season has started, or because Songkran will be here shortly, or what?

Every day for the past 3 days now though, the neighbors have had huge spreads laid out for the monks. They have tables setup with loads of bags of rice, mama noodles, soap, detergent, etc. They've been giving about 40 times more food to the monks than they generally give.

Anyone know what that's about? Kim doesn't tell me anything, and when I ask the neighbors, they'll speak way too quickly in Thai for me to understand.

Merit Merit Merit... families and friends of the deceased try to do the best they can for the deceased by making merit on behalf of that person, beleiving that the merit can be transferred to the dead to help her acheive a better next life. Relatives and friends of the deceased invariably offer food and gifts to the monks on behalf of the dead person. The dead are not usually cremated before the 7th day after death. Occasionally the body maybe kept for much longer, to allow as many people as possiable to pay their respects, up to 100 days or somebody highly respected person dies or an especially important person dies. Monks and temples began the merit process on the 3rd of April.

[martin911]

im sure you got a fridge and some cupboards martin ... drinks have a shelf life of more than 3 days dont ya know ...
but then again i get the feeling you might be a bit like me on this one ... i.e. if its there you;ll drink !!

Ah no -- to be honest i dont think i might be Anything like you ---

Yes im pretty sure on that score !! :blackeye:

well i for one wouldnt dissagree with you there .. i guess i must be a lucky guy :alc:

[martin911]

well i for one wouldnt dissagree with you there .. i guess i must be a lucky guy :alc:

Thats kinda strange -- given that you had said prev that we may have been alike in one way in a prev post !!

[colmx]

KraPow Daeng is open till 3 if anyone is desperate for some entertainment tonight...
Am there now!

Ha ha ok I have to admit that after all my moaning about bars closing etc - I actually delighted about that right now !! Lol as I've after a good "charge" at it for four full days and nights and eating, drinking and shagging myself almost to a standstill
( well not so much eating now that I think of it ! Lol I'm actually quite pleased to take it easy tonight to give my body half a chance to recover !! everywhere in bkk was open as normal last night and I believe a lot of places will be tonight also but I see the likes of DJ is closed tonight ( Monday) but only for one night so all in
all not the disaster I had feared :-)

[a447]

Yep. Everything open as usual last night in Bangkok.

[martin911]

Yep. Everything open as usual last night in Bangkok.

I was not out myself last nite but i believe all was closed in Pattaya (apart from Fullman )

So last nite Bkk was open !!! --and NIrish says DJ is only closed monday nite ??

You can never tell whats happening here !!

Yes was most definitely all open - I know as I left GOD at 6am, with one regular bf guy waiting to go home with, then forgot myself and ended up slipping away to head home with a different guy who I met outside, who I then discovered worked in the same bar as boy number one ( never a great idea lol) so dropped him 200 baht for some food for himself and whilst he was getting it from the cart I disappeared with boy number three on the back of a motorbike lol in therory to go to "spicy" but we ended up just coming straight back to my hotel instead - oh you have to just love Bangkok sometimes ;-))

[a447]

Just wondering if the massage places are open in Pattaya....

[joe552]

NIrish Guy, I hadn't realised you were such a slut :occasion9:

No, I'm not in the least bit jealous.

[martin911]

Yes was most definitely all open - I know as I left GOD at 6am, with one regular bf guy waiting to go home with, then forgot myself and ended up slipping away to head home with a different guy who I met outside, who I then discovered worked in the same bar as boy number one ( never a great idea lol) so dropped him 200 baht for some food for himself and whilst he was getting it from the cart I disappeared with boy number three on the back of a motorbike lol in therory to go to "spicy" but we ended up just coming straight back to my hotel instead - oh you have to just love Bangkok sometimes ;-))


Lol sounds complicated (but fun ) --like a child in a sweet shop -- you just cant make your mind up haha

Stay away from Spicy --full of fanny followers !! --go across the road from spicy and enter the world of Swing (nor in the wife swapping sense !! ) it also stays open much later than spicy !!

If you are out and about can you ask the guys u are with if Kar Dae ( late nite place at Rachada soi 19 ) is open again ??
Ity was closed last month when i last went there --
cheers

How dare you sir !! I am not a slut it just seems thatwhen in Thailand I appear to be commitmentally challenged and wrecked with indecision so feel the need to spread the love wherever possible in case I miss someone exciting ! Lol

And I should add the three needless to say didn't give a shit about me, I was simply somewhere handy for them to sleep and earn a few baht no doubt hence my callous disregard for normal dating protocols - I assure normally I'm the perfect gentleman and not slutty at all - well not until he goes to the toilet and I get his mates phone number for the next day perhaps !!! Ha ha NO I'm joking, I'm honestly not THAT bad - ah fuck it, who am I trying to kid, yeah ok slut works fine "whatever" ha ha :-)

And yes the mororbike guy actually said exactly the same about spicy and was I believe intending to take me to swing anyway, until I got onto the back of his bike, put my arms round his muscular chest, felt the wind in the hair as I held on tight to him and then unfortunately was over come by an old medical condition which I believe they call "a dose of the horn" lol - which resulted in my having to direct him to go immediately to my hotel where thankfully he seemed to be fully first aid trained and was able to take care of my unfortunately affliction like the true professional ( that he was) :-)) lol

[joe552]

just continue to play to your strengths, NI guy :occasion9:

[Neal]

S L U T !

S L U T !

Ha ha ha and coming from a man who owns a knocking shop ( sorry an entertainment bar lol) I'll take that as a compliment ! Ha ha

[latintopxxx]

all of BKK is open, every single gogo bar in soi twilight...but Pats is different, some of the gogo bars in the boyztown area are open (xboys) but sunee is totally closed, not a single gogo bar open.
Still was easy enough to buy them off the street...as usual..

[a447]

latinpox wrote:
all of BKK is open, every single gogo bar in soi twilight

So he was obviously in Bangkok.

The he wrote:

but Pats is different, some of the gogo bars in the boyztown area are open

So he was obviously in Pattaya.

Can't be in 2 places at the same time.

Something fishy going on here. When I posted the Pattaya Report, latinpox's name was not on any of the threads on the gay Thailand forum. His name stands out like a sore thumb (especially if it is at or near the top of the threads) and I would have noticed it immediately. Despite the time shown on his post, it seems to have, therefore, been posted after my Pattaya Report. Mmmm......


Still was easy enough to buy them off the street...as usual..

yes, Latin, we know. We know. Been there before. Move on to something else, why don't you! Stop repeating the same old shit.

[Ozmouse]

Very quite In chaweng, Samui tonight. Soi Green mango Is dark.. Like shut down.

Moulin rouge closed.

K club open, but no music.

And every time I mention "the funeral" , it is like silence... It is like don't mention it....

nyways, quits in chaweng tonight.

Back to bkk on Wednesday for songkran! Party on?

i must admit latinpox has got me a bit surprised here too !!! did you pick the boys up off the streets in pattaya ?? or out of the go go bars in soi twilight ??
p.s. how come you didnt mention you was going to thailand ?? you normally let us know .. why not stop by at one of the bars in sunee tomorrow night and introduce yourself to a447 ... then he will have to belive you are real !!!
wouldnt the look on his face be worth the effort .... go for it .

[latintopxxx]

a447...nice to keep you guessing..FYI...it is possible to be in two places..on the SAME DAY...NKK and pats are only 2 hours by taxi...hello!!!
friday-monday morning in BKK..and monday to NOW in pats...not so difficult...
2nd time in Thailand this year and it's only April..just love my life...
..as for renting stuff off the street....(aka..same old shit..)..mentioned it because it happened....try the stretch from honest gems up (as in away from walking street)...if you don't get approached multiple times you gotta have a real bad aura...
Also found the staff at xboys nice..but tooo pushy...was gonna off no8..but got annoyed with the "you must buy boy a drink 1st"..off fee of 500....pay bot 1000...tip me...fuck what have i got written across my head..."dumb walking atm???"...walked out of the place ..and rented something real nice off beach rd...mission accomplished..

[latintopxxx]

brithai..
To be absolutely clear..I have NO interest in meeting a447 or martin for that matter...don't need bad vibes rubbed off on me...
I don't usually announce my arrival...I have zero interest in hooking up with other tourists...I'm here for one thing only..and it's not the food, culture or temples.....
Have picked up boys all over the place..despite a447's denial....cheapest is street trade away from commercial venues...if you off a gogo boy leaving a gogo bar on his way home he will still want an off fee for the bar??...however I did run into one at the convenience store opposite the Malaysia hotel at 2 in the afternoon...and it only cost me 600....for 90 min.....deleted DaBoss and you all probably know why so I am not gonna waste my time!

[a447]

Brithai, ya gotta laugh at the guy.
I mean, really! Here's Latin, who never misses the opportunity to tell us how many times he has been here, suddenly arriving unannounced!
And as for not wanting to meet any of us here - wel, what a surprise!
It also appears that his life as the international, high living sex tourist is also over. Apparently he was esconced at the salubrious Malaysia Hotel. Unless, of course, he walked all the way from Silom just to find a 7/11 store. :sign5:
As for catching a taxi from bkk to pattaya, that story doesnt add up either. Well, not unless you take a taxi during the day. Why leave at night when all the bars are open??

So just to get back on topic :-)) I can confirm that the bars closing in bkk last night amounted as far as I was concerned anyway to DJ being closed, however of course being Bangkok GOD opened an hour earlier to make up for this lol - however I left telephone bar at 2am fully intending to go home alone and get done much needed sleep and ended up being corrupted by two other farang and we all ended up in hot male bar in soi twilight drinking with 4 Thai guys and the bar staff and my going home at 6.30 with one of them and eventually getting to sleep around 9am ! - so much for my early night ! - oh we'll, I'll try again maybe tonight - maybe ! Lol :-)

[latintopxxx]

Dearest a447..

in the past I've never announced my arrival..why should I start now...or do u think I need your permission..unlike yourself who only visits once every 2 years and get all excited weeks before hand...and have to eagerly announce your arrival....for me it's simply another trip....yawn!!

As for wanting to meet you??!!..whatever gave you that idea...would rather set my hair on fire and put it out with a sledge hammer...imagine all the bad karma that would slither off you....

malaysia might be salubrious where you'r concerned...but when the company pays I have no choice and enjoy the 4 to 5 star hotels they book me into..when I travel on a personal basis...Easter weekend + few days tagged on I go value for money...don't wanna buy the room..fool and his money are soon parted...don't care about big lobbies...fake versace decor...etc...I know what I am and what I'm worth...don't need to pay to confirm my value...and BTW actually stayed at the IBIS because the malaysia was full....and before you ask..yes I'm on the way to an assignment...so the trip was FREE...business class too...
As for pats...who ever said I left at night...please read...you CAN read??....I wrote friday to monday MORNING (all in capital letters so you can read) in BKK...meaning I left BKK in the morning...after a dirty weekend in BKK...now for some R&R...by the beach..

[martin911]

Latin -- i cert never expressed any interest in meeting such a fine gentleman as your good self --

Have fun :bounce: (but the beach road trade can be trouble --better take A447 with you next time you cross the road 555 ) :evil4:

And Just keep on passing through

[latintopxxx]

Didn't understand "better take A447 with you next time you cross the road 555", what is 555??
As for beach trade being dangerous, have to agree there are some dodgy numbers in the evening and at night...have had some luck but now I pick them up during the day...have even been known to abandon my belongings for a quick shag in the room...rinse off in the sea...

well i am amazed .. i like the fact you are now giving out little hints to make us belive you are in the bars latin .. i,e, no8 is nice .. fancy pony tail boy etc etc ...
but as a international thingy .. what is it you do again ?? i didnt think you'd have to go to the same towns twice within 3 months to check the books !!!! ... are they running short of things for you to do ??
bty i was joking about meeting anyone else .. i didnt think you'd want to prove you was there .. that be far to easy.. carry on the :party

[latintopxxx]

brithai...it's called been a quality auditor...linked to compliance with ISO (in my case medical) standards.... complicated....very boring...no glitter...no pink umbrellas in martini glasses...no gucci.....no temperamental photo shoots...just dead serious boring work...the way it's supposed to be...

as for being in the same town in 3 months...when a good time is required there are many ways to skin a cat...if the assignment is in KL or Sing..or Jakarta..one can get there via BKK...hello????anyone home...or is this too complicated for you darling.....

and thanks for finally clarifying the whole... "lets meet thing"...the thought of actually meeting a board member was giving me heart palpitations...where was I to find a garlic bulb and sharpened stake at such short notice...

[a447]

Latinpox wrote:
As for pats...who ever said I left at night..

You did.


all of BKK is open, every single gogo bar in soi twilight...but Pats is different, some of the gogo bars in the boyztown area are open (xboys) but sunee is totally closed, not a single gogo bar open.

That was posted on Monday 9. So you would have had to travel down to pattaya at night if you are able to report on 2 different nighttime locations on the same day! If you left, as you say, on Monday morning, how could you report that the bars in Soi twilight were all open that very same night?

Oops!

As for the boy in X-boys in pattaya, I was there twice on the night you said you were there. I don't know if there was a number 8 or not, but I definitely did not see any boy is red jocks. Except for 1 guy in black, all the others were in white.

Got our bars mixed up again, have we?


when the company pays I have no choice and enjoy the 4 to 5 star hotels..........BTW actually stayed at the IBIS because the malaysia was full.

So the company pays for you to lead this jetsetting lifestyle, and then goes ahead and tries to book you into the Malaysia Hotel!
You obviously have't been to the Malaysia. Nor have I for that matter, but from it's sleazy reputation, it is hardly a 4 to 5 star"hotel.

Oh, dear!

Seems both mastercard and latinpox are priceless.

:sign5:

[latintopxxx]

a447...you win..I give up......it's tiresome to "discuss"something with someone who's just plain....how do I put it...stupid...you can't read...you can't tell one day from another...clearly English is not your strong point...again you win..congrats!! :party

[martin911]

Didn't understand "better take A447 with you next time you cross the road 555", what is 555??
As for beach trade being dangerous, have to agree there are some dodgy numbers in the evening and at night...have had some luck but now I pick them up during the day...have even been known to abandon my belongings for a quick shag in the room...rinse off in the sea...

Thai for the number 5 is pronounced Ha(with mabye a little emphasis on the a ) So 555 = hahaha

Nothing sinister in it !!

A447 -- same old pattern from you again re LP (figure it out yourself ) -- Is it not time to give this matter a rest ???

Its well past its sell by date at this stage --not to say bloody fucking boring !!! --Like i mentioned to the other lad-- for fecks sake you also are in Pattaya -- yet here you are spending time trying to pick holes in somebodys posts as to whether he was where he says he was !!!

Malaysia /Ibis bla bla bla (he said he pays the hotels himself if its his own time )

Black/white/red marigold fucking pink shorts in X or Y or Z boys --who the fuck cares anymore -- who ??

[Neal]

Oh my God! I can only hope you guys give each other a break and give me and Butterflap a REST! :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:

[martin911]

That was kinda my drift with my last post -- but ive never been of say the diplomatic persuasion so mabye it wont end there !!!

well im still confused .. its all deadly serious work .. you'd imagine if its that serious all hotels flights etc etc would be booked in advance .. but maybe its not so serious he cant just fly off to bangkok every now and again .. i mean who wouldnt ?? maybe you just tell the boss your flight was delayed for 3 or 4 days ??
anyhow for once i agree with daboss n martin .. i cant be arsed with you anymore .. even when you have the perfect chance to prove youfself .. you bottle it ... ta ra.

[martin911]

Ah hey you might be misquoting me there lad -- i never said i could not be arsed with LP ( and why should he produce himself to anybody ?? ) feck knows i wont !!!

I said months ago that i did not disbelieve(nor care ) if he was real or not -

Just the whole tedious debacle of trying to pick holes in his posts on SGF is what i could not be arsed about !!

[a447]

latinpox wrote:
a447...you win.

Nice to see you come up with an explanation for the discrepency....hehe


martin wrote:
A447 -- same old pattern from you again re LP (figure it out yourself ) -- Is it not time to give this matter a rest ???

Speaking of "the same old pattern", shouldn't that also be directed to Latinpox, Martin??? A bit selective, old chap!

But yes, he has proved my point yet again - nothing in his stories add up, so I'm very happy to now let this one rest.


Martin wrote:
I said months ago that i did not disbelieve(nor care ) if he was real or not

That's your perogative, Martin. If you don't care, so be it. But some of us do care about lying on the board.

As I said earlier on in the Fighting thread, I will continue to pick up discrepencies, inaccuracies, etc in his posts. He has the right to post whatever he wants (well, almost), and I (and anyone else for that matter) on this board have the right of reply. Seems fair to me. No? And if it gets out of hand, Daboss will move it. I can see it would be a problem if it stayed within the thread. BTW the Fighting thread got 1382 views. That should tell you something.

Also, Martin, I tend not to read boring posts. That's why I never really commented on Beachlover - although many others did. (His posts were far too long.) And the comments made by others about him (and Pong, for that matter) are basically the same as the comments I and others have been making about Latin. These guys are liars and fakes.

Did you ever call for all those posts, day after day, to be put to rest? I don't recall you doing so.

Allow me to respectfully suggest that you ignore my posts, for both your sanity and mine. :) No malice or disrespect intended.

Cheers!

[latintopxxx]

...stop using the word arse...getting me all sweaty and bothered...my weakpoint...just got bacj from eros where I had a naked gogo dancing arse first in my face...my weak point...almost married him on the spot...

[Neal]

Dont get out of hand my vision is on the MEND!

[martin911]

A447 Im selective you say?? --i did in fact point out to LP that he was saying the same old stuff again re the tit for tat stuff -- so dont throw ALL your toys out of your pram yet on that point (that will prob happen by the end of this post no doubt )

The whole thing has got getting silly and boring (ie red short/white short etc )

And the fighting thread got 1382 views eh -- (wonder how many of that 1382 views was you ? --who the hell checks how many views a thread gets ) that smacks of getting a little( dare one use the word) obsessive

Lp has to be pissing himself reading this crap !!!! :evil4: :evil4:

A447-- Tks for stating my prerogative--i will use it as i see fit :bounce:

Please dont start bringing up reams of Bls posts -- to prove yet another meaningless point (i was fooled by BL same as many others --but while (IT SEEMS ) that he in fact WAS a fake-- i dont think the same to be said on the other guy (and i think thats whats really annoying you, ) you want to be right --
Personally i think i was wrong re LP --( not wrong on his somewhat disgusting views re guys/sex) but wrong whether he was a troll or not --

And may i respectfully suggest (without any malice or disrespect 5555 -give me strength lol ) that i will continue to read and comment on any such post that i care to do so on -- i shan't take ANY heed to anything you come up with (no disrespect intended ) advising me to do otherwise

Now with that over with (im only waiting for my little demon BF to come downstairs ) i shall leave this lovely llittle world for a bit and go out into the real one and join some friends that are oogling over certain club coyotes at this exact time and have a bit of fun with them :alc:

nite all

[a447]

Apparently I am not allowed to reply to your post, Martin. So I shall keep my comments for another time.

Cheers.

[martin911]

Cheers too :):)

hope your having a bit of fun in Pattaya/Bkk --