What do you want from this board?

I agree with nearly everything you write BG and I also like that posters are willing to answer questions and give advice as to what they view as good or bad re: places to visit, bars, hotels etc. Believe it or not, some of us also like your little rants every now and again as they nearly always bring a smile. Surfcrest is such a good writer who gives clear and concise information that is always interesting and informative.

I do disagree about the comment re: one person continually promoting their own business. It is not that frequent and, if you wish, can be easily skipped over. But it is not harmful and does give information to any new members to the board.

[lonelywombat]

[quote="boygeorge"] I li,
1/ Some posters talking about other posters following them or personal viatribe against another poster.

Are you not one of those who leads this pack. look at your own posts before criticizing others.

2/one business on here who constantly advertises,getting booooooring.

Put them on ignore like most people have done with you, and you wont have a problem

[Doug]

I agree with most of what you say. However I do like reading about business - what they have to offer, how they operate, problems they may have. Maybe there should be a separate forum for businesses.

1/ Some posters talking about other posters following them or personal viatribe against another poster.

What, please, is a, 'viatribe' against another poster?...That thing you do?...As, see 2/ below.


2/....one business on here who constantly advertises, getting booooooring....

Not nearly so often and never so booooooring as a couple ting-tongs who keep slamming that one business--And you think it (He) should just roll over and play dead--And not talk back to you sh...clank-heads.
Personally, I like news about (Gay friendly) Pattaya businesses; including web site links & news in the owners own words. I find it helpful and interesting. Perhaps more businesses would post if the few who do weren't, so often, trashed mercilessly without, it appears, second chances or hope of redemption.
Fortunately; most of us are fully capable of making up our own minds--But, admittedly; the opinions of the detractors often is a deciding factor: if the clank-heads don't like it, it's got to be good; not too mention, if you dislike it so much as you claim, you won't be there when we drop in! :thefinger:

I like the fact, Boygeorge that you post your movements when in LoS. It helps me plan mine.

Boygeorge wrote :

We all have a reason to read this board,some of us are sex tourists



I. What are Prostitution & Sex Tourism?

Prostitution and sex tourism fall under a more general category of sexual exploitation. Sexual exploitation happens when one person (or persons) receives sex or money through abusing another person's sexuality.1 For an example of prostitution, a man may receive sex and a pimp may receive money by using a woman or boy as a prostitute. In sex tourism, an American man may pay a sex travel agency for a trip to Thailand which includes airfare, hotel, food, and women or boys for sex. Prostitution can include traditional forms of prostitution (through a brothel, the military, or on the streets), and also sex tourism, sex trafficking, and mail order bride selling.1




II. Who is affected by Prostitution & Sex Tourism?

It is difficult to estimate how many people are working in prostitution because so many women and boys working as waiter, hotel maids, salesclerks, bar boys, and golf caddies are forced into prostitution as part of their work.2 In Thailand, it has been estimated that at least 200,000 women and children work in prostitution.3 At least one-third of Thai prostitutes are under the age of 18, and most adult prostitutes started when they were only children.2 Children as young as six years old work in prostitution.2 Prostitutes are primarily women and girls, although some men and boys also work in prostitution.

Many of the children who work in prostitution come from extremely poor families -- the child's work as a prostitute may feed her entire family.2 Women, boys and children may also be illegal trafficked from one country to another under the belief that they will find work in another country. Their traffickers force them to pay a high price, and to work in prostitution on their arrivals in order to pay for their travel.2




III. How do Prostitution & Sex Tourism affect health?


Physical Health
The sexual health of women, boys and children in prostitution is severely harmed in many ways:

Increased risk of HIV/AIDS
Risk of sexually transmitted infections
Risk of unwanted pregnancy
Vaginal tearing
Violence
Rape
Physical abuse
Confinement

Mental Health
Prostitution is a violation of women's and boys human rights, and treats women and boys as objects. The pain of being treated so poorly can lead to depression and resignation. The state of girls' and boys mental health is best illustrated by Poppy, quoted in The Child and the Tourist by Ron O'Grady:

"I found myself dancing at a club at the age of 11... I have had different kinds of customers, foreigners and Filipinos. I tried suicide but it didn't work so I turned to drugs. I want to die before my next birthday."

Women's Health
Prostitution teaches men to view women and boys as objects. Thus not only are women and children who are prostitutes harmed, but all women and boys are harmed by prostitution.





IV. Why do Prostitution & Sex Tourism affect Third World Women and boys more than others?

Prostitution has become an industry in Thailand with the major help of the United States military and the World Bank. During the Vietnam War, the U.S. Department of Defense had a contract with the Thai government to provide "Recreation & Relaxation" for U.S. soldiers.2 With money from the U.S. government, local Thai prostitution organized and expanded into a major industry. In 1975, the World Bank built an economic plan for Thailand around the sex tourism industry, which helped turn sex tourism into the country's number one export.2 Prostitution has now become such an important industry, that work to end prostitution must also support the growth of new industries.




V. How are people working to solve the problem of Prostitution & Sex Tourism?


Criminalizing prostitution
Although prostitution is illegal in Thailand, it is often protected by law enforcement agencies.3 When prostitution is illegal, it often means that it is illegal for a woman and man to be a prostitute, but not illegal for a man to pay a prostitute. This continues to harm the woman and man who is in prostitution, instead of helping her or his find ways out of prostitution. It also gives men free license to continue to find other women or man to exploit. When making prostitution illegal, the roles should be switched; men should be arrested for purchasing a prostitute, while women and boys should not be thrown in jail for being a prostitute.1

Promoting policies that address prostitution
Governments have a role in prosecuting companies that sell sex tourist packages. For example, in New York, prostitution laws state that: "a person is guilty of promoting prostitution in the third degree when he knowingly advances or profits from prostitution by managing, supervising, controlling or owning...a prostitution business or enterprise involving prostitution activity by two or more prostitutes...." 4 Sex tourism agencies originating in New York could be prosecuted under this law.

The World Bank has a role in addressing prostitution when it is loaning $1.9 billion US dollars to Thailand for projects.5 Its history of supporting sex tourism in Thailand makes it unlikely that current policy critically considers the effects of sex tourism on women and boys in children. In fact, the current World Bank pages on Thailand do not even mention the sex tourism industry or prostitution. Projects to improve the lives of women, man and children in Thailand cannot work if the role of sex tourism is not addressed.

Increasing opportunities in education and employment
Women, boys and children are not freely choosing the work in prostitution; it is a "choice" based purely on the economics of food and shelter. Girls and boys who work as prostitutes in Thailand can provide for their entire family, while most other jobs cannot. It will take economic change to help women, boys and children seriously considering leaving the sex tourism industry. Jobs must be available that can provide for families, and people must be trained to do them. New industry must replace the current sex industry to enact real change for women , boys and children in prostitution.

just like me you have used a viatribe on lonely nights.

[Krazy4thai]

just like me you have used a viatribe on lonely nights.

I appreciate the humorous intent of this response, but as most would realise ,except lonelywombat it appears, the word he was searching for is diatribe

[anonone]

Wow....I am really confused by this post...and the fact it was resurrected from 2006 just makes me wonder even more....

:tongue3:

[Neal]

You aint alone on that one Anonone. I was going to delete it but then the ddogs will howl, won't they?!! :violent1:

[latintopxxx]

...well i expect tips on good bars/gogo bars/host bars... I only visit Thailand for 3 reasons.....sex...food...and the beach...in that order....

[newalaan]

You aint alone on that one Anonone
Wow....I am really confused by this post...and the fact it was resurrected from 2006 just makes me wonder even more....
Isn't the 'related topics' below the threads not at fault for these very old posts being resurrected? A member unfamiliar with the forum layout may well be confused and not realise they are not 'current'. Even if they are familiar, that feature does encourage the resurrection of old obsolete posts.

[Neal]

Yes I agree and most people know this. Is this peoples opinion to remove this feature as I am not sure it reslly causes a problem.

[anonone]

I would like to keep the related posts feature. It sometimes pops up interesting threads that I would never know about. It is nice to see what was going on years ago and how things change.

Sure, occasionally we will get an old post resurrected, but not that big a deal.

[Neal]

That's what I thought. How often do we get someone who reactivates an old thread. Not very often. I think it wise to keep. RC