Pattaya report

[a447]

I arrived here after one night in Bangkok on my way from laos. On Monday I flew from Luang Prabang to Vientiane to Bangkok. I checked in and left the hotel at midnight, heading off to the Hotmale Bar in Soi Twilight. I was going to off my old mate Yaa, the guy I used to off from Solid. Look for him - he's got a little moustache and is slightly unshaven, which works wonders when he runs his stubble over your balls. His sa-moking technique is also good, but he doesn't bottom. BTW the off fee there is 500 baht! But he wasn't there. :(
I had a quick look down the soi and it was very quiet. I then rushed off to Super A to off the guy I spent so much time with last week. As I approached Solid, Lek was sitting outside. By chance I asked him if a certain guy was there, and to my surprise, he said yes. So I didn't make it to Super A. I offed my usual boy and had a great time with him. He LOVES cock and just loves to sit on top and ride you. Even when you change to doggy style, you don't have to do anything - he'll ride your cock from that position too. After fucking him i love to jack him off. The look of ecstacy on his face as he cums is priceless. His cumshot is prodigious - 3 big squirts. One to his chin, one to his neck and the other to his chest. He loves to cuddle up to you during the night and can't keep his hands off your cock. He was the guy I wanted to take to Laos with me but, as I said, he wasn't working in the bar. Lek told me he had gone to Pattaya. You'll recognise him as soon as you enter the bar - he has the cutest smile imaginable. Oh, and a big, hard cock to boot!
I arrived in pattaya yesterday and my first stop was Happy Place. They have a number of new boys but a couple of the real cuties I saw in April were absent. Number 999 caught my eye - well, actually his cock did. He got it hard on stage and showed me the outline. It's huge!
I then wandered off to Goodboys in Sunnee. There were lots of boys sitting on stage wanking, although some were fully clothed and just sitting there. Most were watching hetereo porn on their mobiles. I tall guy asked me if I wanted a guy to sit with me - he would jack off for 300 baht. O.k. Why not. The boy jacked furiously and came in about 2 minutes - quite a decent handful of cum, too. I payed him the 300 baht and he was over the moon, laughing and high-fiving the tall guy. I later learned that the going rate for a jack off was 200 baht. Oh well, doesn't matter. But then suddenly boys started coming up to me offering to jack off for me. Some would not take no for an answer and one guy kind of shouted at me. But it was in Thai, so it went in one ear and out the other. It all got a bit too pushy for me. I was just about to leave when I spotted a real cutie. I can't tell you his number because they don't have any. He offered a jack off session so we moved to a dark corner and he performed the deed. He is 18 years old and needed hetero porn to perform. The only downer was that 2 fat foreigners walked in with two patently illegal boys. So I left.
I then headed off to Happy Boys where my usual Pattaya partner works and, sure enough, he was there. I offed him immediately and we went back to Happy Place for the show. The place was absolutely packed. The show was basically the same as what i saw in April, although there was no pseudo fuck show. I just wish they'd getter a better looking "singer." There was a bit of nudity in one of the acts - hard cocks in full view from under a little "skirt" but there were also lots of hard-ons in transparent undies in other acts. All in all, quite enjoyable. Number 12 featured in most of the acts. He's hot!
It was then back to the hotel for a night (and day!) of fun with my guy. If I can get any energy back, I'll check out a couple of other bars in and around Boyztown and report back.

[christianpfc]

I then wandered off to Goodboys in Sunnee. There were lots of boys sitting on stage wanking, although some were fully clothed and just sitting there.
Exactly how I remember my last visit to Goodboys (which was in Jan or Feb). Now can someone explain to me why there are boys fully clothed in a gogo bar? Or in shirts? Is there a giant misunderstanding about the purpose of a gogo bar? (I go to gogo bars to watch boys in underwear, and nothing more than underwear.)

[newalaan]

I arrived here after one night in Bangkok on my way from laosAlways happy to get updates. So thanks for that a447. Must admit I skim over some of the most personal details of your love and sex life and home-in on the bar and venue reviews. Glad you got a guy to your liking at Solid, it's the only bar I pop into on that soi as i never seem have enough time to explore that area. Years ago Solid was a super bar with plenty of boys and customers, the last time I visited i was the only cumtomer with half a dozen forlorn boys staring in my direction, and a mamasan with a depressing look on his face and even more depressing tales of woe, and I went here looking for fun! But I dont think it was the 'Lek' i knew from before, unless there are two there, i was sure Lek left a couple years ago to work in Jomtien. is he back or is it another 'Lek?

Agree with your opinions on Happy Place certainly one of the few agogo bars in Pattaya which deserves the good crowds it gets. I enjoyed the show there and they had a very good selection of gogo guys who gave more attention to the males in the audience than the females, compared to say, ABomb in the same soi, where if a female appears the interest in the male farangs drop to 'about' 0'%.

However 'Goodboys' in Sunee is the opposite. I went there once, after the enthusiastic hyping from LMTU on another forum. My god what a place! I described it on that other forum as looking like what i imagine a Teen Correction Facility to look like, but without the discipline. None of the boys took any interest in any of the customers while I was there. They sat around watching straight porn on their phones, larked around with eachother in very 'high' spirits by the look of it, with absolutely no control whatsoever, hardly a body without a massive covering of tattoos. LMTU described it as having man-boys, but there were too many boy-boys for my liking, finished my drink quickly and fled the place. Looking at some of the boys and doormen there, i think it would be the wrong place to cause an upset, i dont think there would be any hesitation from staff to get involved. With the shouting, being pushy and boys in street clothes it seems not much has changed since i paid a visit.

Hope you can manage updates on the Boyztown and other bars.

[gerefan2]

Now can someone explain to me why there are boys fully clothed in a gogo bar? Or in shirts?
That shithole has a deadful reputation. I suspect the clothing is some scam to avoid the power of the law.
Avoid.

[a447]

Goodboys seems to have taken over from where Holiday 2 left off. I always take a careful look at the guys to make sure they are at least 18. I gotta say, the all APPEARED to be 18.

I can't report on last night's bar hopping, as I spent the entire night and most of this morning in bed with an upset stomach. :( However, I did manage to drag myself down to Jomtien gay beach. Lots of masseurs wandering about but not many takers. I ended up getting a massage, but it was pretty hopeless. However, the guy was wearing shorts and allowed me to poke around the crotch area with my toes. He had a massive cock (might see him tomorrow night at Happy Place!) that got hard very quickly. I massaged the tip with my big toe for quite a while until he told me he was about to cum. He wanted to come back to my loom but I wasn't feeling up to it, so to speak. He was tall and wearing a blue t-shirt and had kind of bat-wing ears. A nice smile, too. He put his hand up my shorts a number of times and touched my cock - nothing over the top, just enough to stir interest in an assignation later, maybe.

I'll see if I can check out some soi 2 bars and report back. I'm trying to get fit for the banana contest at Happy Place. No, not as a participant (I wish!) but as an interested onlooker.

BTW I wonder if those guys fully dressed on stage at Goodboys have just jacked off for a customer and are out of action for a while.

[latintopxxx]

...and you still maintain that sex is not easy in Thailand.....me thinks you are overdoing the yabba...

[newalaan]

BTW I wonder if those guys fully dressed on stage at Goodboys have just jacked off for a customer and are out of action for a while.'Normally' fully clothed boys are so, to enable a quick exit if a warning arrives of potential raid etc... They often are fully clothed when underage, or aliens Cambodian/Laos and have no ID, or simply they want to be available but dont like dancing in underwear, in my time visiting over the years have been given all of these reasons at some time or other. Even if a boy has been 'jacked-off' there is still a chance of being taken off so i'm not sure that would be the reason, also young guys have the 'power' to cum more than once in a short time.

Going by my one and only visit to Goodboys I'll guess fully clothed = underage or no I.D.

...I did manage to drag myself to Jomtien...

Could you not just have gone dressed as a man?

:occasion9:

[gerefan2]

I arrived here after one night in Bangkok on my way from laos

I spent the entire night and most of this morning in bed with an upset stomach

Eaten at the Tarntawan Hotel?

[a447]

last night, after dragging my sick self out of bed, I headed straight back to Goodboys. Thought I'd get there early before the boys were totally spent. I arrived at 8:20 and the young guy who jacked for me the previous night - his name is Mii - immediately approached me. He is soooooo handsome, so I agreed to let him do it again. His cumshot was pathetic. What happened, I wondered. Just a few bubbles. Had he been done already??

I was then approached by the guy who had shouted at me the previous night. I signalled him I wasn't interested and he said: "Why you no like me??" He had a sad look on his face and I began to feel sorry for him, so I told him he could sit down and perform. Well, his cock is HUGE. He managed to jack off without the use of his mobile phone and the look of ecstacy on his face ws worth every baht. But the best was yet to come. "Now I cum for you'" he moaned and with that, rewarded me with a fountain-like display. Three big shots which went straight up into the air and landed on the floor. I rewarded him with an extra 100 baht. I'm going back for a repeat performance tonight, so I won't reveal his name yet. I'll do that after I head back to BKK tomorrow. Check him out, if you are into that kind of fun. I spent about an hour there and in that time only 3 or 4 farangs came in. There were a few sitting around sunnee in the beer bars, but the place was hardly crowded.

I then headed off to Eros to see their White Party. Much ado about nothing, really. Anyway, I spied a handsome guy on stage (number 2) and got him to sit with me. He couldn't stop touching his cock - "it my bes frien" he kept repeating. Mmm... maybe he could be MY friend also, I thought. He then broke the news to me that of all the guys in the bar, he was the only "man." Just my fucking luck to pick him! I was looking for a bottom! I left the bar and wandered down to Happy Boys - the same owner- to look for my usual partner. Unfortunately, he'd already been offed. The bar only had 1 other customer who was being happily molested by half a dozen boys. I then went back to Eros, determined to find a bottom.

The boys in Eros are very friendly and very forward with each other. There was lots of ball-grabbing action and pulling down of shorts by the boys on the stage. And they are not all raging fems- there are a couple of masculine-looking bottoms amongst them. One paraded his massive cock in my face. "Take a seat," I spluttered. Close up, he wasn't all that handsome , but I was mesmerized by his cock so I decided to off him for long time. Back in the room he performed adequately, although he needs to work a little on his samoking technique - watch those teeth. He bottomed for me and appeared to enjoy it. After the deed, I decided I wasn't feeling up to a night of sex (must be REALLY sick!) so I sent him away. I still paid him long time, so he was very happy. I don't remember his number but he has dyed his hair a funny shit-brown colour.

[thonglor55]

You'll recognise him as soon as you enter the bar - he has the cutest smile imaginable.I rushed to Solid last night to see for myself. Unfortunately that's such a subjective description that I couldn't work out which of the smiling boys he could be. Does he have a name (or, better, a number)??

last night, after dragging myself....


Can you not take a hint, dear?

I've told you once already.

Not all the boys like trannys you know.

:occasion9:

[a447]

...and you still maintain that sex is not easy in Thailand.....me thinks you are overdoing the yabba...

Latinpox, WRONG AGAIN!!

Where have I said that "sex is not easy in Thailand?????" If you are willing to pay for it, you can get laid anywhere, anytime. You, however, fantasize about cheap sex with local hotel emloyees who you fuck 4 times and pay 200 baht or some pathetic pittance. Or you don't need to pay them at all, such is the sexual appetite of Thai boys. IN YOUR DREAMS!

Thongy, I always ask the boys who I find exceptional performers, or just nice guys, if I can mention their name/number on the internet. (Always willing to share my "finds" - after I have returned home, of course!) Most boys freak out and say "no." Can't understand their lack of business nouse to be honest, but I will respect their privacy. When i get home on Sunday I will write more about him for you.

Last night I went back to Goodboys and I'm having second thoughts about the guy who cums like a fountain. His name is Nga and he has a black plastic round earring. He sat down and performed for me, but his cumshot was a great disappointment. This time it just dribbled out. :( Still, watching him enjoying himself was entertaining enough I guess. I then headed off to Happy Place for the Boy Bingo. It was my first time and I LOVED IT!! Actually, so did everyone else, including the gogo boys. Neal (Justme) did a great job holding it all together and the prizes were very generous I thought. After bingo came the big banana contest. Not many takers (7 in all) but I'm sure it will catch on. I suggested to Neal that he advertise down at Jomtien gay beach - I've met a number of masseurs hung like a horse who would jump at the opportunity. It was by far the most fun night I've ever had in Pa attaya bar. Neal, you and Happy Place are a success because you are willing to try new things, innovate, lsiten to your client base and take chances. Imagine what Pattaya bars could be if everyone took your approach. Come to think of it, it may be in your interestes if they didn't!

After the show I offed number 999. (I think that's his number.) he has bushy hair and a massive cock. He was in the big banana contest. he came back to my loom and we had a great time. Apart from his cock, he has other charms - he is a happy-go-lucky type and very friendly. I thoroughly enjoyed my time ith him. There are so many cute guys it's hard to choose.

Taxi is here. Got to go.

[christianpfc]

Thank you for writing about your experiences with boys and bars. I enjoyed reading it.

[Dboy]

I then headed off to Eros to see their White Party.

Same boys as on their website or more/different? Sounds like it's becoming a good bar.

[a447]

Hi Dboy,
No, not the same as the boys featured on their website (thank God!!). There seems to be a number of different boys depending on the night. The owner also owns Happy Boys so maybe he is rotating them about. Some real cuties to be had.
As I said, it is a hands-on bar so you can go for the grope if you want to.

But the next guy I want to off is number 12 at Happy Place. He has a magnificent cock and is very approachable. I went outside for a smoke and had a bit of a chat with him. He's no down and out Isaan farmboy, that's for sure.

[Dboy]

No, not the same as the boys featured on their website (thank God!!).

LOL! I was trying to be polite and you saw right through it. Well done.

Wow, your report sounds more like a x-rated story...I like it! :) You seem to be an expert so do you have had any experience with "body-massage"? I have heard it is a massage where the masseur uses his body (naked I hope) to massage the costumer. Is it correct? Do you know where ones (who that might be?! ;D) can get such a massage in bangkok or pattaya or chiang mai? Please keep us posted with your reports...I am curious and looking forward to all the gory details ;D

[atri1666]

Wow, your report sounds more like a x-rated story...I like it! :) You seem to be an expert so do you have had any experience with "body-massage"? I have heard it is a massage where the masseur uses his body (naked I hope) to massage the costumer. Is it correct? Do you know where ones (who that might be?! ;D) can get such a massage in bangkok or pattaya or chiang mai? Please keep us posted with your reports...I am curious and looking forward to all the gory details ;D

I got it in BKK in Bonny Massage and in Pattaya in Blue House and in Duo House. I enjoyed it.

I got it in BKK in Bonny Massage and in Pattaya in Blue House and in Duo House. I enjoyed it.


Cool...can you time some more details like how much does it cost, how is it done, how long does it last...etc
Thanks...I am going to check Bonny website

[a447]

Hi Luni,
Yeah, well I do my best to keep people informed. Who knows, if they visit the same places, they might have the same experiences as me. That's what it is all about, sharing the joy, so to speak. Unfortunately, a lot of the guys don't want their name or number mentioned on the internet (I always ask them first if it ok) so I always respect their wishes. I think it is a very poor business decision on their part, as if they perform for others as they did for me, they'd be able to retire in a few years!! Others who underperformed would be out of business and make things easier for all of us.
I haven't had the kind of body to body massage in Thailand, but I've been to lots of places in Japan where the boys soap themselves up and slide up and down your body. It's not strictly a massage place - it's just the preliminary "wash" before sex takes place. But it's awesome fun.
I think Bonny in Soi Twilight offers 4 hands massage, which may or may not interest you.

[atri1666]

I got it in BKK in Bonny Massage and in Pattaya in Blue House and in Duo House. I enjoyed it.


Cool...can you time some more details like how much does it cost, how is it done, how long does it last...etc
Thanks...I am going to check Bonny website

I took the 2hour Body Scrub Herbal / Milk Cream for 900 baht. He was doing it completely naked. I really enjoyed it. No further details. Also can recommend the foammassage in Blue House in Pattaya. In the afternoons when i took my coffee in Dicks Cafe i was looking before to find my match.

Hi Luni,
Yeah, well I do my best to keep people informed. Who knows, if they visit the same places, they might have the same experiences as me. That's what it is all about, sharing the joy, so to speak. Unfortunately, a lot of the guys don't want their name or number mentioned on the internet (I always ask them first if it ok) so I always respect their wishes. I think it is a very poor business decision on their part, as if they perform for others as they did for me, they'd be able to retire in a few years!! Others who underperformed would be out of business and make things easier for all of us.
I haven't had the kind of body to body massage in Thailand, but I've been to lots of places in Japan where the boys soap themselves up and slide up and down your body. It's not strictly a massage place - it's just the preliminary "wash" before sex takes place. But it's awesome fun.
I think Bonny in Soi Twilight offers 4 hands massage, which may or may not interest you.

thanks :-) please keep posting and keep us updated...I will be in bangkok in a few days now and really don't want to miss anything...the body-to-body massage is really intriguing...I have to try it...and also the massage on the beach in jomtien...and all the other stuff too ;-)

I am looking forward to your next post.

I took the 2hour Body Scrub Herbal / Milk Cream for 900 baht. He was doing it completely naked. I really enjoyed it. No further details. Also can recommend the foammassage in Blue House in Pattaya. In the afternoons when i took my coffee in Dicks Cafe i was looking before to find my match.

thanks...but what is a foammassage? I mean, I can figure it out by myself, but if you recommend it maybe there is something more interesting than just a guy massaging another guy using foam ;-)

thanks dude

[piston10]

It's a personal thing that nobody else understands - but I don't enjoy being massaged, because I get horribly bored and can't wait for it all to stop. However, a foam massage is a quite different experience. It's a happy ending right from the start. Yes, the masseur strips, chucks soapy water all over you and then just climbs on. Nothing to do with massage at all and can lead to all kinds of delight. The boys at Blue House are pretty good at it and quite uninhibited; and in their new premises the foam room is clean, unlike the old one, where I suspect they kept the lights low so that you couldn't see the mushrooms growing on the walls. (You could smell them though!) A lovely way of spending a dull afternoon, and if you like a boy underneath you as well as on top, well, have a four-hands soap massage. The more the merrier!

[Smiles]

" ... A lovely way of spending a dull afternoon, and if you like a boy underneath you as well as on top, well, have a four-hands soap massage. The more the merrier! ... "
Spoken like a true trooper ~ or deep sea diver. It's a hard life, eh?
For the Members here who don't know ... Piston is a dear friend of mine who makes me blush at his exploits in the Butterfly end of business in Thailand, and I can never get enough of his experiences: and neither should you guys ignore him, as there are many more raunchier snippets to fall from his keyboard than the one above. Just think: "You wouldn't believe where that broken tooth actually ended up?"

And Piston is not like most of us: being (ridiculously) smooth, (sickeningly) young, sexually intimidating and desirable at the same time, wise beyond his few years, and more experienced than most of us put together, a legend of sexual exploits. (And yessiree, the '10' has a meaning!!)
Also a lover of seeing his own photo splashed around in public. The inimitable Mr 'Up-The-Bubbles' Piston:

Photo taken at Chiang Rai last year:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/sawatdeephotos/Handsome.jpg

It's a personal thing that nobody else understands - but I don't enjoy being massaged, because I get horribly bored and can't wait for it all to stop. However, a foam massage is a quite different experience. It's a happy ending right from the start. Yes, the masseur strips, chucks soapy water all over you and then just climbs on. Nothing to do with massage at all and can lead to all kinds of delight. The boys at Blue House are pretty good at it and quite uninhibited; and in their new premises the foam room is clean, unlike the old one, where I suspect they kept the lights low so that you couldn't see the mushrooms growing on the walls. (You could smell them though!) A lovely way of spending a dull afternoon, and if you like a boy underneath you as well as on top, well, have a four-hands soap massage. The more the merrier!

....and now I love the foammassage ;-) I am going to try it :-) thanks....and by the way...if you are really what your friend says...and really look like the picture he posted....please marry me ;-)

[Thai Dyed]

And Piston is not like most of us: being (ridiculously) smooth,....etc., etc., etc.

Piston:
Photo taken at Chiang Rai last year:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/sawatdeephotos/Handsome.jpg


And if he's so ridiculously smooth and beautiful, why the hell has this photo of him been Photoshopped to high hell, and very poorly and heavy handedly so on top of that. In fact, it's one of the worst and most overbaked Photoshop jobs I have ever seen. It's so faked that I wonder what he really looks like in person.

[piston10]

Smiles: Thank you for the lovely PR job!

Thai Dyed: I wasn't aware that anybody had ever photoshopped me - but perhaps I wasn't fully conscious when it was happening to me.

Luni: Good luck and enjoy! Thank you for the kind offer, but unfortunately I'm not in a position to make any decisions at the moment, because I'm waiting for my most recent divorce to go through.

Now back to the thread.

[naklua]

Short report from my visits to Soi Pattayaland bars this week:

1) Happy Place: arrived there early, but after a few minutes the boys started and lined all up on the stage for the start of their daily routine. This is a nive feature, as one is able to see all the boys at once. Unfortuantely "boys" does not describe most of them, as approx. 80% of the go-go dancers were on the feminine to very fem side. There were maybe 3 or 4 non-fem guys, but those were mostly not to my taste; only one was nice looking and also displayed a nice smile. nevertheless he was not entirely up to my "standards" and as the night was still young I decided to go to antoher place. The doorman, however, caught my eye. He worked as doorman at Funny Boys for a few years and now does the same job at HP.

2) A-Bomb: As it was still early (approx. 9pm) there were few boys. Nevertheless they were clearly on the masculine side, a few of them with athletic bodies. One of them was especially good looking, but unfortuantely seems to have a rather cool character as he did not respond to me looking at him. The captain, however, said he could do "everything". I doubt this is true, as he made a very manly impression on me, but you never know. I will check him out at another time. Drinks (alc.) 160 Baht.

3) Funny Boys: Same friendly mamasan as ever (Rose). Nice interior design, but too many fem boys IMHO. Beer 160 Baht, long drink 170 Baht.

4) X-Boys: They have a few good looking boys. I inivited one of them for a drink, a 19y old lad from BKK. Rather athletic body, very beautiful eyes and overall a nice personality. But the 10pm show was about to start and he really wanted to perform and so I let him go. The show, by the way, was rather good as it involved only very little ladyboy themes. At first most of the boys displayed their special friends, however, not out in the open but a little bit more descent. Nevertheless one could see well enough. Thus I was able to see that the boy from before is well equipped. I invited another boy for a drink who was not as good looking as the first one but OK. Eventually I offed him due to his nice personality. In bed, however, he got a little bit shy but his performance was OK all in all. Beer at 180 Baht is overpriced for Pattaya. Soft drinks 150 Baht. Off fee 400 Baht.

Yet another short informative review, I was surprised at the percentage you gave that are fem boys at Happy Place bar.

[bao-bao]

Yet another short informative review, I was surprised at the percentage you gave that are fem boys at Happy Place bar.
Yes, thanks for the report, naklua. Opinions are by nature subjective, of course, but a few of them together give people a starting point when going out there.

In fairness, although I sometimes disagree with Neal about the level of his cognitive skills I don't think he's a stupid man; he'd stock his store with what sells - and my guess is you just hit there at a time when the full group wasn't available. You mentioned it was "early" - maybe a tad too early, who knows. On my one visit there I saw a full range of types available.

I've clicked on Happy Place's website and looked at the gallery and if it is current it justifies Naklua's assumption.

[dab69]

Does Good Boys have a room attached?

I about creamed when a guy from another sunee thread
described their boys as a bunch of delinquents from a reformatory.
Nice mental pic until you see what they look like.
But someday I will stay for more than one drink or ...

[a447]

Does Good Boys have a room attached?

Don't need a room - asll the action takes place in your seat! Just watch when you walk about as the floors can be very slippery!

Thank you for the report. At Happy Place we seem to see that the more feminine ones seem to show upo right at opening time. Pattaya ha sso many feminine boys that they can not afford to have their salaries cut. The masculine boys seem to get offed more regularly and rightfully so.
We run about 3/3 masculine to one feminine but we find that they seem to arrive at about 9 - 9:30 rather than the opening bell of 8:30. They dont seem to care if they get cut for showing up late because they tend to go off anyway with customers even when they are late.

[bao-bao]

...we seem to see that the more feminine ones seem to show upo right at opening time. Pattaya ha sso many feminine boys that they can not afford to have their salaries cut. The masculine boys seem to get offed more regularly and rightfully so.
We run about 3/3 masculine to one feminine but we find that they seem to arrive at about 9 - 9:30 rather than the opening bell of 8:30. They dont seem to care if they get cut for showing up late because they tend to go off anyway with customers even when they are late.
So, your masculine guys don't do what was agreed to when you hired them? That ought to make offing them an adventure (just joking, now - don't go off the deep end).

Of course, they may have had an afternoon appointment with the guy from the previous night that earned them a second tip plus the off fee they asked for ("my boss will fire me if I don't bring in the off fee") - which they'd just pocketed without mentioning the appointment to their boss at all - I think I read that story here somewhere in the past - and they didn't care if they were fined or not.

I sympathize with you, though. Keeping order among guys in the midst of what can be a that rebellious/difficult age range must be a little like trying to nail jello to a tree.

Thank you for the report. At Happy Place we seem to see that the more feminine ones seem to show upo right at opening time. Pattaya ha sso many feminine boys that they can not afford to have their salaries cut. The masculine boys seem to get offed more regularly and rightfully so.
We run about 3/3 masculine to one feminine but we find that they seem to arrive at about 9 - 9:30 rather than the opening bell of 8:30. They dont seem to care if they get cut for showing up late because they tend to go off anyway with customers even when they are late.



You certainly have a handle on your business! If the masculine boys have a higher off rate one would think they would be a greater asset, how does a bar or GoGo entice masculine boys to come to work in greater numbers in Pattaya as they had in the past, what are your thoughts?
Thanks again for your thought provoking response.

[naklua]

At Happy Place we seem to see that the more feminine ones seem to show upo right at opening time. Pattaya ha sso many feminine boys that they can not afford to have their salaries cut. The masculine boys seem to get offed more regularly and rightfully so.
We run about 3/3 masculine to one feminine but we find that they seem to arrive at about 9 - 9:30 rather than the opening bell of 8:30. They dont seem to care if they get cut for showing up late because they tend to go off anyway with customers even when they are late.

Thanks for this info on the relevance of the time to visit your bar. I am sure I will give it another try next week taking into consideration to come after 9.30.

[bucknaway]

For us visitors that only get to spend 4 weeks in the land of fantasy, we get to see the sparkle on the star and have little to complain about. For the guys that decided to live in the world of fantasy, they get to see the bare unpolished rear of the star not noticed by the short stay holiday maker.

For us visitors, we don't care if a gogo guy is playing on his phone if we are not interested in him. We don't care if the guys are bored as there are too many other bars to visit and will simply cross off the bars that failed to impress and simply return to the bars that excite us or we will try a new spot. For us visitors, there are far to many bars for us to visit in a 4 week stay. There is far too much to see and do, so many people to meet, so many guys to flirt with.

I imagine many of you who now live in Thailand have fallen into a routine and no longer go to the bars for the fun of it, it's now a routine and you no longer go there to enjoy the fun of a unpredictable night, you go to the same places with certain expectations and demands.

When I am at the bars, I can tell the regulars as they tend to be the ones who seem to be stoned-faced and unhappy. When they enter a bar they are not happy if they don't get their routine table, the guys are not playful with them, few interact with them and if they are with a Thai companion.... Most times their companion appears as if they were a caged bird.

When I wonder what it would be like for me to live in Thailand, I look to those who have taken the plunge. Only a few seem happy. I wonder if I would be one of the happy ones or would I turn and become an official critic of tourist life in Thailand?

[Dodger]

Justme wrote:


The masculine boys seem to get offed more regularly and rightfully so.

I'm sure your feminine staff members would be delighted with this statement.

Personally, I would be more impressed if you just took pride in your business and made comments that showed that you respected those who you employ equally versus playing one type of boy over another in an effort to please the masses.

One would have to ask...why you employ any fem boys to begin with - if in fact your man boys (or str8 boys) generate more revenue?

[colmx]

as BEER who I have known since he was a young boy in 1996 .

Which one one is Beer?
Is he that fat queen, with the back of a bus face, who walks around the bar KICKING boys out of his way and abusing them?

Ok i know some of the boys can be misbehave... but the way i see that ugly fat mamasan guy treat his guys is unnaccceptable to me...

At least next door in Mic my... the boys don't get treated like people in the monkeyhouse!

[Brisboy82]

My main criticism of happy place would actually be that there's too many of the masculine boys and not enough of the sexy fem ones. But I guess there's a lot of fem
Bottom farangs who want some rough 'straight boy' to dominate them. I am surprised by the number of fem farangs that must be visiting.

Dodger... you seem to be wanting to pick a tif and sweetie, I is getting too old, too tired and I ain't bitin'. :happy7:

With so many responses after my post, most of you hit the nail on the head. The more masculine boys head home when times are slow to tend to the fields and thus there are fewer here to choose from. The gay and ladyboys certainly don't enjoy even thinking of "work". Bao bao is correct that the boys agree to come at 8:30 but this is Thailand and they come when they arrive. Many don't care if you cut them for being late or not, or for that matter many times they just don't show up at all. When they quit, they come in, collect their pay and say, "Oh, mama sick. I go home. See you next month."
You deal with usually one b/f, lover, child. We have to deal with forty! One wants to just lay down and die sometimes.
Now talking about masculine boys...... some don't want their freinds to know they go with customers and even more so, MALE customers. Some don't care.
I look all around Pattaya; in the karaokee clubs, the gas stations, the building sites, everywhere. I give 'em my card and hope they call or come by. Today I am in Bangkok and have been looking for 3 days. One boy is coming down he says tomorrow. Next week I will go to Udon Thani, looking under rocks and on the farms and see who I can get to lay down their hoe and hoe. I will bring a few boys with me for translating.
As far as having a bar with more masculine boys then feminine? Of course I think I have that and it is best. look at A Bomb.I think it also best to have some fem boys, some tall some short, I have some long hair and almost scalped. Some plump ones and skinny ones. Certainly not all my type. I think there is someone for everyone and I don't hire to MY taste standards. Many of my staff are on a bonus plan to help recruit and I like to think we have a fun place and good time. I hug the masculine boys and the feminine boys alike, ah shit, who am I fooling? I hug the masculine boys much more! :snorting: We have a lot of tatooed boys but the boys are so into tattoos. If they are late or disappear for a few days, what are you supposed to do? Keep firing people? Then you have nobody to work!
Ya know Madame can be a jerk at times. She can be cruel and have some shady sides to her but I remember her telling me this, if they come to work ok and if they don't come to work, ok, deal with who comes. Not in those exact words Madame but it is close.I will add that she is under extreme strain I am sure with the lack of tourists and prices of the show etc. On a personal note, I hope she makes it and wish her all the luck in the world in continuing as without her club, the area goes further downhill.
OK give me a few minutes to get my military head gear and face mask on, bullet proof vest so you can all start. I seem to get the most shit when I let myself go and tell you all how it is. :dontknow:
:tif:

Justme, you certainly are making every effort and you now what you need to do, certainly more than Dodger does and certainly more than me......

Hang on justme,

I can't start firing at you until I finish throwing up!.............. :laughing3:

K Quill.... BITCH! :dontknow:

[lexusgs]

Dodger... you seem to be wanting to pick a tif and sweetie, I is getting too old, too tired and I ain't bitin'. :happy7:

With so many responses after my post, most of you hit the nail on the head. The more masculine boys head home when times are slow to tend to the fields and thus there are fewer here to choose from. The gay and ladyboys certainly don't enjoy even thinking of "work". Bao bao is correct that the boys agree to come at 8:30 but this is Thailand and they come when they arrive. Many don't care if you cut them for being late or not, or for that matter many times they just don't show up at all. When they quit, they come in, collect their pay and say, "Oh, mama sick. I go home. See you next month."
You deal with usually one b/f, lover, child. We have to deal with forty! One wants to just lay down and die sometimes.
Now talking about masculine boys...... some don't want their freinds to know they go with customers and even more so, MALE customers. Some don't care.
I look all around Pattaya; in the karaokee clubs, the gas stations, the building sites, everywhere. I give 'em my card and hope they call or come by. Today I am in Bangkok and have been looking for 3 days. One boy is coming down he says tomorrow. Next week I will go to Udon Thani, looking under rocks and on the farms and see who I can get to lay down their hoe and hoe. I will bring a few boys with me for translating.
As far as having a bar with more masculine boys then feminine? Of course I think I have that and it is best. look at A Bomb.I think it also best to have some fem boys, some tall some short, I have some long hair and almost scalped. Some plump ones and skinny ones. Certainly not all my type. I think there is someone for everyone and I don't hire to MY taste standards. Many of my staff are on a bonus plan to help recruit and I like to think we have a fun place and good time. I hug the masculine boys and the feminine boys alike, ah shit, who am I fooling? I hug the masculine boys much more! :snorting: We have a lot of tatooed boys but the boys are so into tattoos. If they are late or disappear for a few days, what are you supposed to do? Keep firing people? Then you have nobody to work!
Ya know Madame can be a jerk at times. She can be cruel and have some shady sides to her but I remember her telling me this, if they come to work ok and if they don't come to work, ok, deal with who comes. Not in those exact words Madame but it is close.I will add that she is under extreme strain I am sure with the lack of tourists and prices of the show etc. On a personal note, I hope she makes it and wish her all the luck in the world in continuing as without her club, the area goes further downhill.
OK give me a few minutes to get my military head gear and face mask on, bullet proof vest so you can all start. I seem to get the most shit when I let myself go and tell you all how it is. :dontknow:
:tif:

Hey justme,

Why don't you go and steal some guys away from ABomb? They really do have some good looking boys in there and a constant stream of customers. That bar does n't get a lot of publicity here but seems to do rather well.....

[naklua]

any one who tells you Beer and GOODBOYS only gets man boys because they give them a room, is talking Bull shit.

I this was a referal to my previous post mentioning the fact that Mr. Beer provides rooms for some of his guys, it might be useful to read my post again. I never wrote that the rooms are the sole deciding factor.

[lukylok]

For us visitors that only get to spend 4 weeks in the land of fantasy, we get to see the sparkle on the star and have little to complain about. For the guys that decided to live in the world of fantasy, they get to see the bare unpolished rear of the star not noticed by the short stay holiday maker.

For us visitors, we don't care if a gogo guy is playing on his phone if we are not interested in him. We don't care if the guys are bored as there are too many other bars to visit and will simply cross off the bars that failed to impress and simply return to the bars that excite us or we will try a new spot. For us visitors, there are far to many bars for us to visit in a 4 week stay. There is far too much to see and do, so many people to meet, so many guys to flirt with.

I imagine many of you who now live in Thailand have fallen into a routine and no longer go to the bars for the fun of it, it's now a routine and you no longer go there to enjoy the fun of a unpredictable night, you go to the same places with certain expectations and demands.

When I am at the bars, I can tell the regulars as they tend to be the ones who seem to be stoned-faced and unhappy. When they enter a bar they are not happy if they don't get their routine table, the guys are not playful with them, few interact with them and if they are with a Thai companion.... Most times their companion appears as if they were a caged bird.

When I wonder what it would be like for me to live in Thailand, I look to those who have taken the plunge. Only a few seem happy. I wonder if I would be one of the happy ones or would I turn and become an official critic of tourist life in Thailand?

I am glad to see someone else has the same thoughts than me.

That is exactly the feeling I get seeing many of the "regulars" in Pattaya or reading their comments on the boards.

[Dodger]

colmx wrote:


Which one one is Beer?
Is he that fat queen, with the back of a bus face, who walks around the bar KICKING boys out of his way and abusing them?

No, that would be Mac who is Beer's head mamasan. Beer is now slim after months of dieting and has mellowed over the years.

[colmx]

No, that would be Mac who is Beer's head mamasan. Beer is now slim after months of dieting and has mellowed over the years.

Thanks for the clarification Dodger - do Beer and Mac look somewhat alike? As in one look like the other with long hair?
3.5 weeks till i'm back in LOS so i guess i will find out then!

No, that would be Mac who is Beer's head mamasan. Beer is now slim after months of dieting and has mellowed over the years.

Thanks for the clarification Dodger - do Beer and Mac look somewhat alike? As in one look like the other with long hair?
3.5 weeks till i'm back in LOS so i guess i will find out then!

Mac happens to be a really nice guy. I think you will find the boys get on really well with him, and what you described above, he was probably only joking with them.

He used to be the mamasan for a number of years at Khaos, and has been around Sunee for years. By the way, he looks nothing like Beer.



Cheers,


George.

[bucknaway]

So who is going to be in Thailand next month besides me?

So who is going to be in Thailand next month besides me?


Try spending time alone, it will be good preparation for your trip.

[lukylok]

So who is going to be in Thailand next month besides me?


Try spending time alone, it will be good preparation for your trip.

What makes you so bitter ? Regretting your younger years ? :dontknow:

What makes you so bitter ? Regretting your younger years ? :dontknow:

It just might have something to do with being stuck in 'paradise' surrounded by fem boys,,,,,

[Dodger]

colmx wrote:


Thanks for the clarification Dodger - do Beer and Mac look somewhat alike? As in one look like the other with long hair?
3.5 weeks till i'm back in LOS so i guess i will find out then!

Mac is quite a bit heavier - but both he and Beer are of Chinese hertiage and share some of th4e same mannerisms. As someone else metioned, Mac is really a good guy. That show he puts on where he slaps the boys on their arms and yells loudly - is simply that, a show. Beer is also a nice guy when you get to know him.

Both Beer and Mac were mamasan at the defunct KAOS working for Lulu. Beer purchased Nice Boys and took Mac along to help run the place.

I'll be right behind you in October and hope to tilt a cold one with you...haven't seem you in years.

Well, Buchnaway...that's at least two of us who will be around and hope to see you again as well.

Cheers...

[bucknaway]

Well, Buchnaway...that's at least two of us who will be around and hope to see you again as well.

Cheers...

Well it seems I have some winnings to claim at happy Place so maybe we can enjoy some time there on me. It will be my first time to buy a bottle and mixers at a bar.... I don't count the time I had dinner with some officers in Chiang Mia at a outside BBQ place. We had the waiter run out and buy us a bottle of 100 Pipers and we took the unfinished bottle with us into Bubbles Disco.

That was a fun night that I hope to never repeat! LOL :)

[jimnbkk]

I'll see you Dodger. Probably see you again at Two Guys in the mornings? I'll be in Pattaya around the 5th of October.

[Dodger]

jiminbkk wrote:

[quoteI'll see you Dodger. Probably see you again at Two Guys in the mornings? I'll be in Pattaya around the 5th of October.[/quote].

Jim, I won't be arriving in LOS until Oct 17. This is a bit later than usual for me, although I will be extending my stay until after the New Year which will be a first.

I hope you're still in town when I arrive...if so, see you at 2G's.

So who is going to be in Thailand next month besides me?


Try spending time alone, it will be good preparation for your trip.

What makes you so bitter ? Regretting your younger years ? :dontknow:


Not bitter just real, I was in Pattaya last week, Boystown other than Happy boy and funnyboy was basically empty, 2 or three punters in a go go, not many more boys. Sunee equally slow except for 3 go go bars that have already been mentioned here in a trip report. I have never seen a low season in Pattaya like I did this visit.

[Beachlover]

For us visitors that only get to spend 4 weeks in the land of fantasy, we get to see the sparkle on the star and have little to complain about. For the guys that decided to live in the world of fantasy... When I am at the bars, I can tell the regulars as they tend to be the ones who seem to be stoned-faced and unhappy. When they enter a bar they are not happy if they don't get their routine table, the guys are not playful with them, few interact with them and if they are with a Thai companion.... Most times their companion appears as if they were a caged bird.
I am glad to see someone else has the same thoughts than me.

That is exactly the feeling I get seeing many of the "regulars" in Pattaya or reading their comments on the boards.
I think Bucknaway has made a valid comment too. I'll add a twist to it...

As a impartial observer, what I see is farangs who've chosen a flawed lifestyle. They have little productive ambition or aspiration other than lurching from one prostitute/bar to another. They seek to have their sexual and emotional needs - something usually fulfilled by loved ones - met solely by paying strangers.

They're only objective in life is self-pleasure. They've no desire and little means to make any significant contribution to improving society around them.

So it's no surprise you get a certain breed of expats in Thailand who are f***ed in the head. Not all get to this. But the poster immediately above is an example of it.


how does a bar or GoGo entice masculine boys to come to work in greater numbers in Pattaya as they had in the past...
Undaunted/Man4allSeasons... Maybe the "masculine boys" aren't so keen to get f***ed in the arse by any random guy off the street for a living.

[jimnbkk]

Beachy wrote:

"As a impartial observer, what I see is farangs who've chosen a flawed lifestyle. They have little productive ambition or aspiration other than lurching from one prostitute/bar to another. They seek to have their sexual and emotional needs - something usually fulfilled by loved ones - met solely by paying strangers.

They're only objective in life is self-pleasure. They've no desire and little means to make any significant contribution to improving society around them.

So it's no surprise you get a certain breed of expats in Thailand who are f***ed in the head. Not all get to this. But the poster immediately above is an example of it."



You've got me figured out BL !! I don't 'lurch', but I do go from bar to bar whilst I'm in LOS. I have no further interest in significantly contributing to society any more, beyond the boys I support both in Philippines and Thailand. Also, I give to a few reputable charities both in Thailand and at home. That gives me the 'courage' to be only a source of income to those folks in Thailand with whom I associate. I enjoy it, and I believe they likely enjoy it (the money at least) also. I worked for 43+ years, and I'm bloody well going to enjoy whatever time I've got left, and I could care less what you think of it!

You've got me figured out BL !! I don't 'lurch', but I do go from bar to bar whilst I'm in LOS. I have no further interest in significantly contributing to society any more, beyond the boys I support both in Philippines and Thailand. Also, I give to a few reputable charities both in Thailand and at home. That gives me the 'courage' to be only a source of income to those folks in Thailand with whom I associate. I enjoy it, and I believe they likely enjoy it (the money at least) also. I worked for 43+ years, and I'm bloody well going to enjoy whatever time I've got left, and I could care less what you think of it!


Well,

Spoken like a true Hedonist........................and nothing wrong with that in my book!.......... :laughing3:

and I could care less what you think of it!(quote)jimnbkk Re: Beachlover

Was there actually a time when people cared? :dontknow:

[a447]

I worked for 43+ years, and I'm bloody well going to enjoy whatever time I've got left....


Go for it, jimnbkk. I couldn't agree more!

[Beachlover]

You've got me figured out BL !!...I worked for 43+ years, and I'm bloody well going to enjoy whatever time I've got left, and I could care less what you think of it!
Really? Don't know why you're replying defensively. You don't fit into the profile I described at all and you contradicted yourself in that respect.



Was there actually a time when people cared? :dontknow:
Was there actually a time when you aspired for anything other than a "man guy" that looks and acts like a man between the ages of 18 and 25? :rolling:

You're looking like a right drongo these days.... :sign5:

[Dodger]

Justme wrote:


OK give me a few minutes to get my military head gear and face mask on, bullet proof vest so you can all start. I seem to get the most shit when I let myself go and tell you all how it is

Persoanally, I liked your description of some of the challeges involved with managing your bar and appreciate you candidness.

Also, just for the record, I have always enjoyed my visits to your place and the mix in boys as well. I lean towards the fem types, although saw a few boy-boy types there would can dance on my table any time.

Keep up the good work.

Thank you so much! :hello1:

[witchhunt]

[
As a impartial observer, what I see is farangs who've chosen a flawed lifestyle. They have little productive ambition or aspiration other than lurching from one prostitute/bar to another. They seek to have their sexual and emotional needs - something usually fulfilled by loved ones - met solely by paying strangers.

They're only objective in life is self-pleasure. They've no desire and little means to make any significant contribution to improving society around them.

So it's no surprise you get a certain breed of expats in Thailand who are f***ed in the head. Not all get to this. But the poster immediately above is an example of it.


how does a bar or GoGo entice masculine boys to come to work in greater numbers in Pattaya as they had in the past...
Undaunted/Man4allSeasons... Maybe the "masculine boys" aren't so keen to get f***ed in the arse by any random guy off the street for a living.

I guess BL tried to pay his way through uni by cracking it at the wall or in the cross and failed. Many masculine boys have cracked it at the wall, made a lot of mony and probably still do. There seems to be penis envy is all BL posts. Maybe he is a lesbian after all.

[neoncrusade]

I'm within about 4 months now of exchanging England for Thailand. I've read this thread through and I don't see why people like me should feel guilty about it. I haven't worked as long as another on this thread has (i have worked 34 years), but after all this time of working to live, I am now in the postition of being able to ditch work and live to have fun.
If there were so many that came to Thailand to live a 'flawed' lifestyle' by crawling around the gay gogo's every night, why are the gay bars so empty...

I think it takes a certain amount of guts to ditch a way of life that one has known for 50 years for a country that 20 years of holidays probably hasn't quite prepared you for.

I still don't know what I'm going to spend all my time doing, but I'm going to have a bloody good time finding out. If I go to a gogo twice in a month I will be VERY surprised. I've wanted to travel around Asia for as long as I can remember, and Thailand is a good base. China, Japan, Korea, Indonesia, Tibet, India, Australia here I come!

[Beachlover]

I guess BL tried to pay his way through uni by cracking it at the wall or in the cross and failed. Many masculine boys have cracked it at the wall, made a lot of mony and probably still do. There seems to be penis envy is all BL posts. Maybe he is a lesbian after all.
I guess you might fit that profile and feel uncomfortable about someone offering a blunt and realistic view of it...

[Beachlover]

I've read this thread through and I don't see why people like me should feel guilty about it.
Fair enough but no one I saw mentioned anything about feeling guilty...


after all this time of working to live, I am now in the postition of being able to ditch work and live to have fun.
That's great... nothing wrong with that.


If there were so many that came to Thailand to live a 'flawed' lifestyle' by crawling around the gay gogo's every night, why are the gay bars so empty...
I reckon there's a good number of them in Pattaya. Don't know about there being "so many"...

I just think people who choose to spend the last few decades of their lives lurching from gogo bar to gogo bar every night, do little but pursuing their next prostitute and rely on people they pay a fee to fulfill roles usually fulfilled by loved ones are vulnerable to becoming f***ed in the head. Not all of them do. It's more likely to happen if they lack self awareness and have no other other challenges/pursuits. Maybe they're already f***ed in the head and that's how they ended up there. That's possible too.

I doubt you fall in that category though... have fun exploring Asia. How come you didn't do it earlier?

I've read this thread through and I don't see why people like me should feel guilty about it.
Fair enough but no one I saw mentioned anything about feeling guilty...


after all this time of working to live, I am now in the postition of being able to ditch work and live to have fun.
That's great... nothing wrong with that.


If there were so many that came to Thailand to live a 'flawed' lifestyle' by crawling around the gay gogo's every night, why are the gay bars so empty...
I reckon there's a good number of them in Pattaya. Don't know about there being "so many"...

I just think people who choose to spend the last few decades of their lives lurching from gogo bar to gogo bar every night, do little but pursuing their next prostitute and rely on people they pay a fee to fulfill roles usually fulfilled by loved ones are vulnerable to becoming f***ed in the head. Not all of them do. It's more likely to happen if they lack self awareness and have no other other challenges/pursuits. Maybe they're already f***ed in the head and that's how they ended up there. That's possible too.

I doubt you fall in that category though... have fun exploring Asia. How come you didn't do it earlier?


Maybe,

just maybe Beachy, he was busy earning a living?... :dontknow:

Maybe,

just maybe Beachy, he was busy earning a living?... :dontknow:[/quote]kquill


K.K. For god's sake give the guy a break, there are so many 24 year olds that haven't settled on a career path yet.

[Dodger]

Beachlover Wrote:


I just think people who choose to spend the last few decades of their lives lurching from gogo bar to gogo bar every night, do little but pursuing their next prostitute and rely on people they pay a fee to fulfill roles usually fulfilled by loved ones are vulnerable to becoming f***ed in the head. Not all of them do. It's more likely to happen if they lack self awareness and have no other other challenges/pursuits. Maybe they're already f***ed in the head and that's how they ended up there. That's possible too.

Would the same hold true for a younger guy who has so many optional challenges and pursuits to fill his days and nights - who, instead, chooses to spend his life (days and nights) lurching from one gay web site to another while the opportunity to actually live life - versus just talk about it - passes him by. Is it possible that a person like this is actually fucked in the head to begin with?

Just wondering.

[dab69]

+1

what he said

[Beachlover]

Would the same hold true for a younger guy who has so many optional challenges and pursuits to fill his days and nights - who, instead, chooses to spend his life (days and nights) lurching from one gay web site to another while the opportunity to actually live life - versus just talk about it - passes him by. Is it possible that a person like this is actually fucked in the head to begin with?
Dodger, again with this...

1. No one should take time management advice/criticism from someone like you who claims to work such long hours he doesn't have more than few minutes a day to himself.

2. Your idea that I spend my "life (days and nights)" here is inaccurate... I log on maybe a few times a week for maybe an hour at most and usually while watching TV (or in this case, got home at 8am after a big night out, still a little drunk and need to fill time before attending a property auction)... in fact, it sounds like I see more of my friends and loved ones during the week than you find the time for.


Maybe, just maybe Beachy, he was busy earning a living?... :dontknow:
Is that what the ordinary folk do now? :rolling:

[Dodger]

Beachlover wrote:


Dodger, again with this...

1. No one should take time management advice/criticism from someone like you who claims to work such long hours he doesn't have more than few minutes a day to himself.

2. Your idea that I spend my "life (days and nights)" here is inaccurate... I log on maybe a few times a week for maybe an hour at most and usually while watching TV (or in this case, got home at 8am after a big night out, still a little drunk and need to fill time before attending a property auction)... in fact, it sounds like I see more of my friends and loved ones during the week than you find the time for.

1. Try again when you're sober. I enjoy 6 months vacation in Thailand every year and don't spend 10 seconds on the internet while doing so.

2. You're a compulsive posting freak who is obviously taking advantage of the person who's paying your salary by playing on the internet when you should be working...that's my read. The only property auction I believe you're attending is in your dreams, unless in fact you're down to selling the furniture in that room you rent to pay for groceries. I told you before - I read you like a book.

You're a compulsive posting freak who is obviously taking advantage of the person who's paying your salary by playing on the internet when you should be working...that's my read. The only property auction I believe you're attending is in your dreams, unless in fact you're down to selling the furniture in that room you rent to pay for groceries. I told you before - I read you like a book.

So Beachy has been promoted Dodger, he's not the Filipino toilet cleaner anymore? Concentrate on doing what you do best and stop trying to guess what Beachlover does as it is neither here nor there. Younger people with Smart phones etc.. are far more savvy to posting on forums, Facebook/Twitter etc..etc.. than us older guys could every be, or want to be. Let's face it we learnt or learn as we went/go along, where as the younger generation grew up with the technology so it's all second nature to them.

[netrix]

...taking advantage of the person who's paying your salary by playing on the internet when you should be working...I read you like a book.

in your book is there room for the possibility that someone is self employed or a business owner
and doesn't rely on anyone else for their salary? "should" be working? according to who?

[Dodger]

Netrix wrote:


in your book is there room for the possibility that someone is self employed or a business owner
and doesn't rely on anyone else for their salary?

I hope there's room because I'm self employeed.

[bucknaway]

You're a compulsive posting freak who is obviously taking advantage of the person who's paying your salary by playing on the internet when you should be working...that's my read. The only property auction I believe you're attending is in your dreams, unless in fact you're down to selling the furniture in that room you rent to pay for groceries. I told you before - I read you like a book.

So Beachy has been promoted Dodger, he's not the Filipino toilet cleaner anymore? Concentrate on doing what you do best and stop trying to guess what Beachlover does as it is neither here nor there. Younger people with Smart phones etc.. are far more savvy to posting on forums, Facebook/Twitter etc..etc.. than us older guys could every be, or want to be. Let's face it we learnt or learn as we went/go along, where as the younger generation grew up with the technology so it's all second nature to them.

Our generation invented the Technology and continue to be the driving force behind it. The younger generation simply has more time and desire to use it in place of true human interaction. AND on this board it does not matter if you are 18 or 180. The rules of common human decency and mutual respect of others should be the rule.

[naklua]

Back to the topic:
I visited X-Boys a few times during this week. They have 3 shows every night and they are quite good. Ladyboy conent is kept to a minimum. They feature 2 or 3 really handsome guys. I took 2 of them to my room (at separate occassions) and was quite satisfied.
The 1st show act is normally some of the boys parading around with their more or less hard cocks (as I learnt the get their cocks hard backstage and tie a condom around the shaft; this procedure is quite painful and I guess not really what a doctor would prescribe to do :tard: ) covered only with semi-transparent clothing. Over loudspeaker they are introduced with their name and it is also explained in Thai what they offer sexually. Most of them are described as versatile (can fuck and can be fucked). The 2 boys I took definitely lived up to this expectation.
Off fee is 400 baht for the "normal" dancers and 500 Baht for the show boys. Drinks are 180 Baht, boy drinks (at least soft drinks) 150 Baht.

Lucky 777: This bar was recommened (on another board, I guess) for having Laos and Cambodian boys who are handsome and "sex bombs". When I visited they had a high number of fem boys and the rest were definitely not handsome, but rather below average looking guys with undefined bodies. Only one of the boys had good looks and I bought him a drink. He was from Isaan and a little bit shy, although he said he can do "everything". I did not, however, take him off as I had other plans for the night.

[loke]

I am quite new to the Pattaya scene but I visited Happy Place Thursday for boybingo and it is a great idea and more fun than just watching boys on stage doing their silly dance moves.

So more friendly atmosphere , they should have more customers there , and only 99 baht for drinks.

Also I like Funny boys, better looking boys there but that is just my personal opinion .

[Beachlover]

I enjoy 6 months vacation in Thailand every year and don't spend 10 seconds on the internet while doing so.
So basically, you force yourself to slave like a dog for half the year so you can enjoy the other half. YouтАЩre 48 and havenтАЩt even got the means to live in your desired location full time yet.

YouтАЩre not a complete loser... But for you to criticise someone whoтАЩs pulled off year-round work-life balance and can travel and live exactly where he wants before 30... That's like telling Warren Buffet to make better investment decisions.

I mean seriously, between your тАЬfast paced business = no spare timeтАЭ statement and Bao BaoтАЩs idea of time management, you both use ridiculously outdated and inefficient notions as basis to draw conclusions.


obviously taking advantage of the person who's paying your salary by playing on the internet when you should be working... I read you like a book.
I pay my own salary and dictate when and how I work. Are you illiterate or just resorting to taking random half-arsed stabs? :rolling:

Dodger, I have some respect for your adventurous attitude but if you have an issue with my posts, attack the post before the person. You havenтАЩt got the means or intelligence to get anywhere with the latter.

[ultimo]

Would the same hold true for a younger guy who has so many optional challenges and pursuits to fill his days and nights - who, instead, chooses to spend his life (days and nights) lurching from one gay web site to another while the opportunity to actually live life - versus just talk about it - passes him by. Is it possible that a person like this is actually fucked in the head to begin with?
Dodger, again with this...

1. No one should take time management advice/criticism from someone like you who claims to work such long hours he doesn't have more than few minutes a day to himself.

2. Your idea that I spend my "life (days and nights)" here is inaccurate... I log on maybe a few times a week for maybe an hour at most and usually while watching TV (or in this case, got home at 8am after a big night out, still a little drunk and need to fill time before attending a property auction)... in fact, it sounds like I see more of my friends and loved ones during the week than you find the time for.


Maybe, just maybe Beachy, he was busy earning a living?... :dontknow:
Is that what the ordinary folk do now? :rolling:

B/L

I took a few minutes to look at your posting habits after your following claim.......Quote " I log on maybe a few times a week for maybe an hour at most and usually while watching TV" Unquote.
In July you posted virtually every day, apart from a one day off early in the month ( Friday,possibly a rostered day off!!) A long break came at the end of the month of around 12 days. In August,again you posted every day, apart from one day off and another period of 12 days off at the same time as July. In Sept you were on and posting every day until mid Sept and then a little erraticaly to the 23rd.
Your posting pattern also shows that you are constantly on in the lunchtime area and again in the late evening to early morning!!
Maybe you check on your posting behaviour because it does not sound like statement you make in this thread.
Are we being honest?

Maybe you check on your posting behaviour because it does not sound like statement you make in this thread. Are we being honest?

Now why would a 'NEW' member bother to go through all of Beachlovers past posts then register a handle to try to prove something that doesn't make one bit of difference to the forum? Perhaps you have been having sleepless nights, and just felt you had to justify your existence by commenting... :dontknow:

[Dodger]

Ultimo wrote:


B/L

I took a few minutes to look at your posting habits after your following claim.......Quote " I log on maybe a few times a week for maybe an hour at most and usually while watching TV" Unquote.
In July you posted virtually every day, apart from a one day off early in the month ( Friday,possibly a rostered day off!!) A long break came at the end of the month of around 12 days. In August,again you posted every day, apart from one day off and another period of 12 days off at the same time as July. In Sept you were on and posting every day until mid Sept and then a little erraticaly to the 23rd.
Your posting pattern also shows that you are constantly on in the lunchtime area and again in the late evening to early morning!!
Maybe you check on your posting behaviour because it does not sound like statement you make in this thread.
Are we being honest?

Don't worry Ultimo, Beachlover is a very wealthy jet-setter who has enough free time and money to do as he likes. The reason he's probably on-line every day in the mornings...and again at lunchtimes...and again in the evenings, is because he is busy flying around on his jet in the mid-mornings traveling around the world and purchasing more properties...so give him a break. :happy7:

Don't worry Ultimo, Beachlover is a very wealthy jet-setter who has enough free time and money to do as he likes. The reason he's probably on-line every day in the mornings...and again at lunchtimes...and again in the evenings, is because he is busy flying around on his jet in the mid-mornings traveling around the world and purchasing more properties...so give him a break. :happy7:

Sounds like a bit of jealousy creeping in there Dodger. Whatever, Beach has done well for a Filipino Toilet Cleaner don't you think? Why this obsession with what a guy does for a living? You persist in bringing it up again and again where as I would have thought you of all people couldn't give a dam what a guy does for a living considering you search out partners in Go-Go bars, which if that's your thing I am not knocking at all. Each to their own as they say.....

[Thai Dyed]

Don't worry Ultimo, Beachlover is a very wealthy jet-setter who has enough free time and money to do as he likes. The reason he's probably on-line every day in the mornings...and again at lunchtimes...and again in the evenings, is because he is busy flying around on his jet in the mid-mornings traveling around the world and purchasing more properties...so give him a break. :happy7:

Whatever, Beach has done well for a Filipino Toilet Cleaner don't you think? Why this obsession with what a guy does for a living? You persist in bringing it up again and again...

In fact, it is Beachlover who is constantly bringing up the issue of what a big, important entrepreneur he is... again and again.

I have seen Beachlover interviewed about his toilet cleaning business:
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[ultimo]

Maybe you check on your posting behaviour because it does not sound like statement you make in this thread. Are we being honest?

Now why would a 'NEW' member bother to go through all of Beachlovers past posts then register a handle to try to prove something that doesn't make one bit of difference to the forum? Perhaps you have been having sleepless nights, and just felt you had to justify your existence by commenting... :dontknow:

Everyone who joins a website is NEW. Congratulations on your obvious brain challenging answer.
Who else would I expect to answer on behalf of the ventroloquist ,no other than the doll that sits on his lap flapping his rubber lips! This I have also observed happens on a constant basis in the time I started reading this site.
I certainly do not have sleepless nights, I only hate obvious liars. Does that satisfy you?

[jinks]

ultimo - you appear new "here"

Please don't fall into the trap a replying to every braindead comment made here by our longer serving members.

Several of our "esteemed" posters are about to leave us if they continue on the road to self-distruction.

[Beachlover]

I took a few minutes to look at your posting habits after your following claim.......In July... In August... In Sept...
Let's get this straight... you went into my posting history and slowly clicked through 20-30 consecutive pages of posts to come up with these figures? Stalker any? :rolling:

You and Dodger need to find something less paranoia/envy driven to focus on.

Who or what I am doesn't even come into 90% of the posts I make here. It's completely irrelevant to the post Dodger replied to. It only gets dragged out because someone like Dodger doesn't like something I said. He can't rationalise or justify why (still hasn't) so instead of addressing it, he decides to attack me instead.

Dodger even goes so far as to compromise his own integrity by posting racist slurs (he's not the first - and it wouldn't happen if I said I was white) and completely made up facts.

That's pretty much it. Same pattern, different poster.

Believe me or don't believe me... it's not going to impact either of us in the slightest so give it break.

[ultimo]

I took a few minutes to look at your posting habits after your following claim.......In July... In August... In Sept...
Let's get this straight... you went into my posting history and slowly clicked through 20-30 consecutive pages of posts to come up with these figures? Stalker any? :rolling:

You and Dodger need to find something less paranoia/envy driven to focus on.

.

B/L

It certainly is not my intention to flog a dead horse and am most happy to suggest you continue on and post your replies ad nauseum.
However you have skirted around the reason of my thread ( which does happen frequently), that you seemed a little dishonest in the reply you gave . All I did was to merely back up what I had said. ( Which you obviously have chosen to look back on to only find it is the truth and you have been caught with your pants down) but omit to say that you were lying in your original statement.
Stalking you...definately not, but I do get irritated when people tell obvious lies.

As jinks advised it is better to ignore some people as a newbie poster to this board. Take care.

[Beachlover]

You need to get your facts right if you're going to accuse people of lying, Ultimo... Don't remember what I was doing three months ago (and my post was referring to now, not three months ago) and am not going to check. But I had a look back at my September posts and your first post is completely inaccurate in its asserted facts.

[Dodger]

Beachlover (AKA Combat) wrote:


Who or what I am doesn't even come into 90% of the posts I make here.

Believe me, 10% of what you share about yourself is more than enough.

Let's get this straight... you went into my posting history and slowly clicked through 20-30 consecutive pages of posts to come up with these figures? Yet you can quote - and often do - from other posts from years ago and you're not a stalker?

[Dodger]

Beachlover/Combat wrote:


Dodger even goes so far as to compromise his own integrity by posting racist slurs (he's not the first - and it wouldn't happen if I said I was white) and completely made up facts.

My opinion of you wouldn't change if you were purple.

And when did I ever insinuate I had integrity?