Membership denied on Baht Stop

Yesterday membership was applied for by Happy Place Bar and under that name. Access was opened and I logged on to look around several times yesterday.
Today, access was denied and no emails, no reason. Guess what people say about it being an unfair dictaorship is true and wish them all the best of luck without us!
:hello2:

[Narakmak]

They have a policy of no gay whorehouse topics there. I think they should have that right to ban pimps.

Recently during my half day I was able to troll around Baht Stop before being rudely kicked off for no reason, I was able to notice that there were some posts regarding our "Ladies Welcome" sign and the fact that periodically ladies are seen in the audience.

If I can take a moment and address this....
Happy Place Bar enjoys being located on Soi 2 Pattayaland and on the outskirts of Boyztown. Unlike those bars IN Boyztown, ladies as well as tour groups and other people flock to those sois and walk down the street. Unlike those bars in Boyztown where the tour groups come through to "gawk and stare" many many people want to look and see what is going on and see things that they do not see at home. To see a show that is different than what they would get to see at home.
As you know, I sit outside trying to welcome our visitors to the bar and when we were building the bar and putting up new signage, was tired of telling girls either escorted or not, that yes, you can come in to the bar, have a drink and enjoy the show. So the next sign went up with Ladies Welcome and that put an end to me having to repeat myself numerous times weekly.

Our customers who do not like to sit next to ladies or feel uncomfortable may sit elsewhere in the bar, its small yet big enough. Periodically but not often a few women may wander in with the giggles to view hot, handsome boys and maybe off someone just you like. They also feel that they arent pressured or threatened the same as in these straight bars with men drooling all around them. Women can be seen sparatically but not frequently.

During show time is when most of the people tend to come in and watch the show and see something different.
Please understand that the times we are in call for the diversity of any bar in order to survive. In this case, the extra revenue that we bring in goes towards the upkeep of the bar, payment of salaries as well as the survival of the bar as does any bar that allows women. This assists us in keeping a large staff for YOUR enjoyment and run the different price specials, shows and contests that we do.

We do undertsand that as a gay bar, it would be perfect if a gay bar opened its doors only to gay people, but as you can see, in these times, it just isn't possible. As I mentioned previoulsly our location allows for this and we can rest knowing that our customers are libral enough to understand that a few women coming in to off a boy are just as shy as our male clientele and usually more so even though our women are less hands on. :dontknow:

I am just trying to address a situation that was once here as well as being posted on at baht Stop.
Our special parties and events have been in the past and will remain, gay only.

PS Please stop saying that the Ladies Welcome sign is in bright neon letters. Its LED. :hello2: ITS A JOKE!! Lighten up sweeties!

[Marsha-old]

No need to explain about the ladies welcome sign. It's your business. You have to pay the bills, not the gay community.

I for one don't care if a lady comes into a bar. We want the same as straight people. Do we want people to put signs outside saying no gays aloud.

It works both ways.

[Khor tose]

Yesterday membership was applied for by Happy Place Bar and under that name. Access was opened and I logged on to look around several times yesterday.
Today, access was denied and no emails, no reason. Guess what people say about it being an unfair dictaorship is true and wish them all the best of luck without us!
:hello2:

I think something else is going on. You need to Email the Mod and find out what happened. I know no reason why you can't post on baht stop as we have LMTU, Beachlover, Reggie and a Hydra with 13 names. While some of the time I think you are in great need of a straightjacket, you are no more disruptive then many other posters. Do email the Mod. I know you did not get kicked off because you are who you are. More then likely there is some other glitch.

Do we want people to put signs outside saying no gays aloud.It works both ways.

Well put, but it will be lost on a lot of queens who probably spent most of their lives living in a closet, and now they basicly want to do the same to hetro's as what was once done to them. Live and let live, if customers in a bar behave themselves then should it matter what their sexuality is, I think not?

[Narakmak]

This is BS. Hets can be het 24/7 everywhere they go. They run the world. We are a tiny minority, hated by many. Incidentally many of these ladies are Russkies, among the world's most homophobic countries. Yes many of do want these tiny spaces to let our hair down without being gawked at by hets. Personally I don't care much as I don't attend these whorehouses. But I defend the right of gay men who choose places with no ladies policies. I don't really care if the pimps are making money or not though. Do they care about you cash flow? Hardly, they are all about sucking it out, and I know many of you know all about sucking it out.

I did send them an email requesting posting privs as I was unable to post. That was last night. This morning, no response and access was suddenly denied.
But thanks for suggesting I write them.

Also 90% of the women are "ETHNIC" Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hong Kongese. Certainy being an ETHNIC EXPERT you could not hope to attribute your comment as to the majority of our lady attendees without even having been to our bar! As you state. As far as Russian women and men, they are strictly screened prior to allowing them in as we have had problem s in the past with this group unfortunately.

But thanks for your input and kind comments!

[kittyboy]

Yesterday membership was applied for by Happy Place Bar and under that name. Access was opened and I logged on to look around several times yesterday.
Today, access was denied and no emails, no reason. Guess what people say about it being an unfair dictaorship is true and wish them all the best of luck without us!
:hello2:

Just as you can run your business any way you see fit.
The owner of Baht stop can run their business any way they see fit.

[allieb]

Who needs Baht Stop when we have this board. As for ladies in gay bars, I would like to see a sign up in all gay bars.
THIS IS A GAY BAR (Fag hags are welcome)

Just as you can run your business any way you see fit. The owner of Baht stop can run their business any way they see fit.
A very understandable and correct comment, as is my ability to tell others about my experience with their business, no?

[kittyboy]

Who needs Baht Stop when we have this board. As for ladies in gay bars, I would like to see a sign up in all gay bars.
THIS IS A GAY BAR (Fag hags are welcome)

I have to agree. Nothing like an old sow in a go go bar fondling a hot boy to add some fun and atmosphere to the bar.
More things to make fun of...the old sow with her big udders swinging down. The look of disgust on the boys face.

God that is fun.

Being gay, I would LOVE to see many tourists like the old days so that a gay bar can remain, gay men only but I am forced to look at reality and know that while I have a sexual distaste for women, and I would really rather not allow them to enter, I want to keep my doors open and not want to close like so many other bars. Having a large group of guys to choose from, a show, better alcohol, nuts a nice scented cloth and keep the prices low where the customers want them are not cheap. As I mentioned, a few women wander in during show time to see something different. a nice way to subsidize keeping your quality high and the prices low during non show, play time time. LOL!

PS All the bars in Boyztown also allow and have women, especially at show time. The only difference is that rather than having the doormen chase after these groups, we put it on the sign. No big difference. I know many bars in Boyztown that when these gawker lookie loos go past and want a laugh, they even open their doors so that these people can stare inside at both the customers and boys, hoping to get a good laugh as well as to coax them inside for a first hand look and to buy a drink!

[Beachlover]

I think you are in great need of a straightjacket...
Implying someone else is mentally ill, KT? Bit hypocritical coming from a fat, dopey life-long loser who WAS and probably still is... mentally ill.

[Beachlover]

Justme... Lots of people have complained of difficulty joining Baht Stop. As far as I know, no registration is accepted unless you send the owner an e-mail (they get too many spam registrations). I know you already did this but that's all I can say to help.

Word of warning... Don't get personally wound up over what anyone says there, especially if it looks like they're just trying to wind you up.

Baht-Stop is chronically infested with trolls. Sometimes, up to 20-40% of the posts are just piss take troll posts made by multi-handled posters. As far as I know, BadBoyBilly has around 5-10 handles he uses simultaneously. Then there's another individual using 10-15 handles to take the piss. There's probably others but that's as far as I can make out for certain.

Moe summed up most of Baht Stop membership nicely with this classic post... :rolling:


Many of the folk who find some posters offensive are the same folk who go out each night and fill there fat bellies full of lard laden burgers and fries and copious amounts of beer and booze, then pay a young laddie to stick his cock up there arse,some even talk of enjoying shit and piss play, amazingly these people are shocked by someone using the word fuck in a post It seems these folk wish to be thought of as respectable and classy here, but in reality are no more than Doorty Dooorty Doooooorty owld buggers.

[bao-bao]

Regarding the "Ladies Welcome" sign: In order to parade tourist groups through Boyztown they have to pass by your place, so I understand why you have an LED sign up to attract/encourage patronage - but in fairness it's not really "unlike" the bars in Boyztown, it's just not within the "official" parameters. You said you got tired of telling women they were welcome numerous times a week, but that would seem to me part and parcel of the welcoming host's duties - maybe advise a doorman how you want such questions answered. By the way, I think the idea of bringing the gawkers through to see "the gays" is cheesy behavior that should be discouraged (although I have no suggestions as to how).

You said "the times we are in call for the diversity of any bar in order to survive, In this case, the extra revenue that we bring in goes towards the upkeep of the bar, payment of salaries as well as the survival of the bar as does any bar that allows women." That's possible, but if that's really the case wouldn't we see "Lesbians Welcome" signs along Soi Cowboy? Come to think of it, that might bring in MORE men. :8(

I don't know what their profit and loss sheets look like, but other gay clubs in your area seem to have held on for extended periods. If there aren't enough customers to fill the number of gay clubs open currently, logic would lead most to think that perhaps there are too many gay clubs. I don't think you meant women were keeping your doors open - I understand that. It's about profit, and nobody ought to begrudge you an honest profit.

The core issue (as I see it) is this: Homosexuality in and of itself causes enough shy, nervous anxiety for many gay men. Leaving illegal behavior out of it for once I'm sure you've read or heard in your time how many gays are far more comfortable being themselves when they aren't being observed by others in the audience, especially women - that's been debated to death already - so if a gay clientele is the main source of income it would seem logical for a gay club to cater more towards them and avoid any possibility of alienating any of them. Merely "sitting elsewhere in the bar" isn't all that attractive an alternative if you're still within view of women who may or may not stare, point, giggle or glare at you.

By the way - I'm not advocating discrimination against women here - that's no more fair than what many of us have been faced with all of our lives, and the world doesn't need any more of that, thank you.

Not intending to start an ongoing debate or set anyone off - just offering an opinion.

Well if you werent into an ongoing debate, you should have read my post more throughly before responding.
I said that the women that tend to come into the bar MAINLY come in during showtime. I also said that they were there to SEE a show. Not to point giggle and stare and if even dared to do so, I assure you they would be escorted to the door. I said that some women come in to OFF boys. Your comments seem to TWIST my words and arent even in context.

I also did not say that the women were keeping any doors open, but that they HELPED in meeting the revenue requirements to make salaries and pay the bills.
We arent even talking about PROFITS. Again twisting my words.

As far as bars closing and there being too many gay bars, well that is not for me to decide. I run my bar the best way I know how. I dont regulate the number of bars and obviously there are currently a great deal fewer tourists. It is therefore imperative that bar owners do whatever programs that they think are money makers, whether they are contests, parties or more to continue to bring in nice people who enjoy the shows and the boys and want to buy offs and drinks.

[bao-bao]

Sorry if you thought I twisted your words - that wasn't my intent. I saw that you said women mainly came in for the shows, and I'm aware that women come into some clubs to off the guys. Regardless of when women are in a club it makes many gay men uncomfortable, as I understand it. Haven't done a poll on it, but it might be interesting.

Yes, it's low season now. I was under the impression that the "Ladies Welcome" sign has been up since last October. Sorry if I misread that.

Agreed, you said "it would be perfect if a gay bar opened its doors only to gay people, but as you can see, in these times, it just isn't possible" and all I suggested was that if there was more supply than demand that perhaps there were too many clubs - not singling out anyone... I didn't say women were keeping your doors open. If revenue requirements aren't being met, businesses close. I understand, and wasn't twisting your words. Thank you for your reply, though.

I have tons of cutomers that dont mind the occassional woman that stray in to google over the guys and possibly take one home.
I did not say that our sign was new, it was put up in October of last year, 4 months after we opened and realized that it would be a plus.
It is a 35,000 baht sign that Ladies Welcome take up a small percentage of the sign and Hot Boys takes up the majority.

This is a ridiculous banter.
The fact that women are allowed into the bar is the EXACT SAME as the other bars, its just none thought to put it on their sign. all let women in. As I said the difference is that some bars even open the doors so passerbys can google, laugh and stare. We dont!

[Khor tose]

I think you are in great need of a straightjacket...
Implying someone else is mentally ill, KT? Bit hypocritical coming from a fat, dopey life-long loser who WAS and probably still is... mentally ill.

Still confined to your wheelchair?

[Beachlover]

Still confined to your wheelchair?
Ha! That's ironic. You might be confined to a wheelchair if you can't get the fat levels in your lard-laden arse under control. Do you think your lazy, unemployed (according to you) live-in prostitute boyfriend will be happy to wait on his cranky, dopey as a dumb arse patron hand and foot? :rolling:

[Beachlover]

gawkers... Merely "sitting elsewhere in the bar" isn't all that attractive an alternative if you're still within view of women who may or may not stare, point, giggle or glare at you.
Heh... when I visit gogo bars its to watch the show, grab a drink... and gawk. Anyone got a problem with that? :happy7:

Honestly, I enjoy seeing women in gogo bars, watching their reaction to the big cock shows and strippers and seeing them interact with gogo boys who are trying to charm their panties off.

As far as the giggling and pointing goes, I think if you're a gay bar owner and you see this, consider going up and saying something like "ladies, I appreciate you're here to have fun but please respect this is a gay bar and try to avoid making our regular patrons uncomfortable"... that's if it's practical (maybe not in a rowdy bar).

I think if you're an older gay man who wants to off a nice gogo boy to hit the sack with, just go ahead and do it! You're in a gay bar. Isn't that your turf? You've got to be weak Nelly if you can't give the giggling women a nice fuck off look and get on with enjoying yourself.