Well you can't get that in Thailand. Not even a copy of it!

[bucknaway]

It seems that every stranger in Thailand seems to ask me to bring them poppers when I come to visit. I don't use drugs and I am not about to risk my freedom in any way for a total stranger. And it made me think... You can find anything you like in Thailand. You want boy? You want girl? You want smoke? You want reproduction of of W.C. Fields jockstrap? Can get for you. You want drug?? Name it, can have for you. Poppers? Oh no can get....

Why is it that the sexy boys in brown are able to keep their shiny black boots on the neck of the poppers business but lets the good times roll for everything else.

Well, for one thing prescription drugs are imported and dispensed legally, so they have a legitimate reason for being available and stocked in some form or another. It's just that dodgy doctors and pharmacists make them available over the counter, when they really shouldn't be.

Poppers can't be legimately imported or stocked, and I don't think the demand from the gay community is enough to really justify a contraband industry.

I agree with your resolve not to bring them in for others, though. Apart from the personal risk, I have no interest in promoting drug use among young Thais.

Well, for one thing prescription drugs are imported and dispensed legally, so they have a legitimate reason for being available and stocked in some form or another. It's just that dodgy doctors and pharmacists make them available over the counter, when they really shouldn't be.

Poppers can't be legimately imported or stocked, and I don't think the demand from the gay community is enough to really justify a contraband industry.

I agree with your resolve not to bring them in for others, though. Apart from the personal risk, I have no interest in promoting drug use among young Thais.

Lots of meds that are presciption only in the USA and Europe are available over the counter in Thailand. There is nothing in the least dodgy about it in the context of Thailand. Some drugs in Thailand are more restricted, such as drugs that could be used to get high.

Thaiquila,

I was referring to the drugs which are widely available over the counter in Thailand, but legally shouldn't be. Like Viagra, Cialis, Xanax, Halcion, heavy antibiotics, etc., etc.

[TOQ]

Buck,

why would you want to risk it for anyone...



john

Thaiquila,

I was referring to the drugs which are widely available over the counter in Thailand, but legally shouldn't be. Like Viagra, Cialis, Xanax, Halcion, heavy antibiotics, etc., etc.
Are you really sure ED drugs are illegal for pharmacies to carry? The only pharmacies I have ever encountered that work on scrip are at hospitals.

so what would happen if you had 1 or 2 bootles of poppers on the way in to thailand? confiscation or more?

Poppers are indeed available in Thailand, I've bought them dozens of times for friends who begged for them, at a dodgy chemist in Silom neighbourhood. There is also a lad at a certain gay Internet portal who is often selling them.

They are also *very* dangerous, and even moreso when combined with the likes of Viagra and Cialis as a perfect formula for an instant heart attack. A perhaps lesser worry is the rapid loss of brain cells, hardly desirable given that most people who want to use them have only three, and it takes four to grunt.

I know lots of people like poppers but when I tried them a few times a long time ago they just gave me a headache and they smell like what I would imagine embalming fluid smells like. As an alternative, I highly recommend 100 percent agave Tequila!

Poppers are indeed available in Thailand, I've bought them dozens of times for friends who begged for them, at a dodgy chemist in Silom neighbourhood. There is also a lad at a certain gay Internet portal who is often selling them.

They are also *very* dangerous, and even moreso when combined with the likes of Viagra and Cialis as a perfect formula for an instant heart attack. A perhaps lesser worry is the rapid loss of brain cells, hardly desirable given that most people who want to use them have only three, and it takes four to grunt.

there used to be guys selling them in the alley outside Freemans and DJ....but haven`t seen them for quite a while...............also a certain chat room online.

Thaiquila,

I was referring to the drugs which are widely available over the counter in Thailand, but legally shouldn't be. Like Viagra, Cialis, Xanax, Halcion, heavy antibiotics, etc., etc.
Are you really sure ED drugs are illegal for pharmacies to carry? The only pharmacies I have ever encountered that work on scrip are at hospitals.

100% sure. They are illegal to dispense without a prescription. Pharmacies obtain them through dodgy hospitals and clinics, whose doctors write out huge numbers of bogus prescriptions to form a paper trail.

If you don't believe it, try buying Viagra at a "proper" pharmacy -- like Boots. They will tell you, "not without a prescription".

Thaiquila,

I was referring to the drugs which are widely available over the counter in Thailand, but legally shouldn't be. Like Viagra, Cialis, Xanax, Halcion, heavy antibiotics, etc., etc.
Are you really sure ED drugs are illegal for pharmacies to carry? The only pharmacies I have ever encountered that work on scrip are at hospitals.

100% sure. They are illegal to dispense without a prescription. Pharmacies obtain them through dodgy hospitals and clinics, whose doctors write out huge numbers of bogus prescriptions to form a paper trail.

If you don't believe it, try buying Viagra at a "proper" pharmacy -- like Boots. They will tell you, "not without a prescription".
Yeah, I can see Boots not having it. It is funny that Boots is considered a proper pharmacy. I believe you. It is probably more about the sex taboo part than the danger.

Well, I disagree with you there. ED drugs are potentially very dangerous, and should not be dispensed over the counter like throat lozenges.

Well, I disagree with you there. ED drugs are potentially very dangerous, and should not be dispensed over the counter like throat lozenges.
Then you disagree with the way things are in Thailand, which is a valid point.
I am on a number of chronic meds and I know what I am doing based on doctors visits and tests, but if I took too much or too little of some of these very common meds, I could be dead, and yet I can go into ANY pharmacy in Thailand, including Boots, and buy them at whatever dose levels I ask for, no questions asked. Ever. And I have been doing this for years. So what is so special about ED drugs then? I still contend it is about the sex taboo, not the safety.

I have to agree with you there, Thaiquila -- it's perception. In fact, most of the things that we buy OTC in Thailand, but are perceived as too dangerous elsewhere are only dangerous to people who really are quite stupid (and in that case, maybe...oh better not say it...).

An example is the antacid that allows me to consume the equivalent of 1/4 my body weight in gin each week. In Thailand it is OTC, and costs 100 baht for a box of 10. Here in Hong Kong, we can also get it OTC, but it is $300 (about 1,500 baht) for the same 10 pills but from a different brand. But yet when I asked for the same medicine in Sydney while visiting last year, the chemist said it was prescription only, even implying that I was a danger to myself for asking for it. I suffered for the rest of my last trip to Sydney, because I could not get the heartburn medicine I wanted (and no I was not going to waste money on some quack Aussie doctor).

The point is, we are adults who are educated enough make our own decisions. When people say that medicine like ED pills, which are clearly for adults only (!) "should not be available" OTC, they are hoping to make rules for others where they are not needed. Rather than wishing to impose unnecessary rules, these people should cosider staying in America or Australia and be completely "safe." What is needed is less regulation, not more -- those making the rules are generally far less educated or experienced than those who suffer the consequences.

[bkkguy]

Well, I disagree with you there. ED drugs are potentially very dangerous, and should not be dispensed over the counter like throat lozenges.

the same could be said of antibiotics but Boots will happily provide those without a script

bkkguy

Well, I disagree with you there. ED drugs are potentially very dangerous, and should not be dispensed over the counter like throat lozenges.

the same could be said of antibiotics but Boots will happily provide those without a script

bkkguy
Yes, and a host of other meds as well.
Perhaps, it is just the Thai way to extract more money in an organized manner for anything sexual.

"Thai way to extract more money in an organized manner for anything sexual?"

Come on...I don't know of a single country ANYWHERE in the world where ED drugs are legal to be sold OTC.

"Thai way to extract more money in an organized manner for anything sexual?"

Come on...I don't know of a single country ANYWHERE in the world where ED drugs are legal to be sold OTC.
If by OTC, you mean without a prescription at a pharmacy, they are openly advertised in pharmacies in MEXICO with BIG SIGNS IN THE WINDOW for Viagra. How could they do that if it is illegal?????

This is a minute point really. Like I said, lots of meds can kill you if you take the wrong dose, and a huge variety of drugs just like that are available legally Thailand without a scrip. I know because I take some of them every day.

The point I am making about Thailand is that almost EVERYTHING else is available without a scrip there. ED drugs are one of the small number of exceptions. I don't believe it is about safety, for reasons I have already stated.

While we are on the topic, like you said before, ED meds and generics are available for the asking without a scrip just about any pharmacy other than Boots. So, what is the point of that law anyhow?

If by OTC, you mean without a prescription at a pharmacy, they are openly advertised in pharmacies in MEXICO with BIG SIGNS IN THE WINDOW for Viagra. How could they do that if it is illegal?????

How naive are you?

[Aunty]

Don't forget prescription drugs are chemicals that have potent biological effects. All prescription drugs have side effects, and in some cases these side effects can be very serious and lead to death. When you start mixing prescription drugs together (or other chemicals) in your system these can react with each other in ways that can be very dangerous to you, e.g. Viagra and amyl nitrite. One drug may increase or decrease the action of another drug with serious consequences, one drug may reduce the elimination of another drug resulting in its levels raising in the body well in to the danger zone. The reason medicines in the West are dispensed by prescription is primarily due to safety issues, many medicines are dangerous and need to be given under medical supervision by a trained and informed practitioner who can also consider what other drugs a patient is taking and what it is and isn't safe for them to take.

Self-medicating, especially for the elderly is never a good idea. Many drugs behave quite differently in an elderly person's body.

By the way if you do have a bottle of opened poppers, keep it stored in the fridge at 4C. It' a very volitile compound, this will help to keep it longer.

And one very important thing for men over the age of 45. If you have glucoma or heart disease, DO NOT TAKE poppers.

Well, for one thing prescription drugs are imported and dispensed legally, so they have a legitimate reason for being available and stocked in some form or another. It's just that dodgy doctors and pharmacists make them available over the counter, when they really shouldn't be.

Poppers can't be legimately imported or stocked, and I don't think the demand from the gay community is enough to really justify a contraband industry.

I agree with your resolve not to bring them in for others, though. Apart from the personal risk, I have no interest in promoting drug use among young Thais.

Whats a Poppers? Is it a beta blocker?

[Wesley]

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Poppers can't be legitimately imported or stocked, and I don't think the demand from the gay community is enough to really justify a contraband industry.



I like you, really would not take a chance on a bottle of poppers no more than I would bring any illegal drug on a plane now days. I am not sure why it is just a gay thing and we don't as a group all do it or in volume's large enough for them to take a chance on trying to get it in either.

Wesley

[Aunty]

Whats a Poppers? Is it a beta blocker?

No, it's amyl nitrite. Poppers are banned in some countries and legal in others. It causes the blood vessels to relax thereby increasing blood flow. When it's sniffed during anal sex, it increases the pleasure giving some men a rush. It's effects only last a few minutes, and it's classified as a recreational drug. It's medical use is for treating angina attacks. Don't take poppers if you are also taking Viagra. The combination can kill you.

http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/datash ... ateinh.htm (http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/datasheet/a/Amylnitrateinh.htm)

[Wesley]

Self-medicating, especially for the elderly is never a good idea. Many drugs behave quite differently in an elderly person's body.

By the way if you do have a bottle of opened poppers, keep it stored in the fridge at 4C. It' a very volatile compound, this will help to keep it longer.

And one very important thing for men over the age of 45. If you have glaucoma or heart disease, DO NOT TAKE poppers.

doctor given drugs drugs mixed killed my older sister just last year. it is never good to mix anything the doctor did not give you and Doctor shopping should be banned as well. If it were not for two doctors unknowingly giving her stuff the other was not she wold still be here instead I had to drop everything here and fly home for a funeral for a 59 year old woman who went doctor shopping and accidentally killed her self

A friend of mine had his poppers confiscated while going thru Chiang Mai airport. Not a big deal made of it but they did warn him not to have them.

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Wazz that's awful for you. Any doctor worth their salt would have asked if she was taking any other medication both verbally and in a form she would have had to fill in to register, I hope he was sued to kingdom come. Not that that would bring back your sister, what terribly bad luck for you and your family.

Popping sounds worse than sniffing glue ? Why would one need to enhance an orgasm? I didn't think the normal kind could be any better. Is amyl nitrite used for anything else?

[Wesley]

Wazz that's awful for you. Any doctor worth their salt would have asked if she was taking any other medication both verbally and in a form she would have had to fill in to register, I hope he was sued to kingdom come. Not that that would bring back your sister, what terribly bad luck for you and your family.



I am not sure myself I am over it because it was unclear if it was accidental or not we lost her life insurance as well. Her son is looking to get things settled with the doctors. I had to fly right back after two weeks home.

Wesley

The substance is in Thailand on the edge but not illegal.

Most Thai people don’t know about it. The liquid is loosing its stability very quickly and therefore it’s risky to have a larger amount on stock. It is surely not cheap.

Asking for poppers is probably useless. You can get it at many small drug stores. Just ask for the chemical name “amyl or butyl nitrate”. Comes in a bottle or in small glass 'vials' which are popped open. Historically is has been used to treat angina, mainly used today to treat emergency cases. It's still around for disinfection purposes of medical tools. In large bottles (1 litre or more) it’s dirt cheap but not popular due the stinks.

It is not allowed to be taken in hand luggage onboard aircrafts since its highly inflammable and therefore banned as dangerous goods.

I personally don’t like any kind of this staff. It’s just revolting, giving me headache or turns my stomach. If I smell sometimes some in certain sauna establishments like Babylon, I leave the place. I knew from other’s who are feeling the same. There I am very grateful for any unsold bottle …

The substance is in Thailand on the edge but not illegal.

Most Thai people donтАЩt know about it. The liquid is loosing its stability very quickly and therefore itтАЩs risky to have a larger amount on stock. It is surely not cheap.

Asking for poppers is probably useless. You can get it at many small drug stores. Just ask for the chemical name тАЬamyl or butyl nitrateтАЭ. Comes in a bottle or in small glass 'vials' which are popped open. Historically is has been used to treat angina, mainly used today to treat emergency cases. It's still around for disinfection purposes of medical tools. In large bottles (1 litre or more) itтАЩs dirt cheap but not popular due the stinks.

It is not allowed to be taken in hand luggage onboard aircrafts since its highly inflammable and therefore banned as dangerous goods.

I personally donтАЩt like any kind of this staff. ItтАЩs just revolting, giving me headache or turns my stomach. If I smell sometimes some in certain sauna establishments like Babylon, I leave the place. I knew from otherтАЩs who are feeling the same. There I am very grateful for any unsold bottle тАж

Do they pipe it into the steam at the Babylon?