Drugged and Robbed

[arsenal]

Over the years I have read of quite a few stories where Farangs were drugged and robbed. As stated on other boards they always seem to have huge amounts of cash and very expensive valuables stolen.
Methinks not. Drugged and robbed quite possibly but I suspect the amounts are attempts to diddle the insurance company.

And, what is more I am not sure that a lot of these incidents are not collaborative put ups between the supposed perp and victim. It's nearly always a ladyboy (very hard to identify) and the hotels in question never seem to have any cameras.

However if it has genuinely happened to you then you have my sympathy. On one ocassion I unknowingly drank a laced drink but the circyumstances were very different.

[Brisboy82]

I've certainly never been in a situation where this scenario appears to be likely.

I also have never been drugged and have been here 10 years or more. Never heard of anyone here being drugged. Yes, robbed or rather ripped off but robbed usually means with a weapon of sorts. If you are concerned about being "drugged" I would always watch my drink, and if you leave your drink, get a new one when you return.

[Brisboy82]

I have heard more stories about people being drugged in Eastern Europe or maybe India but not Thailand.

[thonglor55]

Wasn't there a thread a little while ago about someone in Thailand who claimed he "must have been" drugged then robbed as he had no other explanation even though, as he recounted it, he hadn't ingested anything so the boy "must have" painted it on his penis?? I think it was one of those cut'n'paste urban myth jobs that lonelywombat excels at. My theory was (and is) that the guy succumbed to a virus.

Maybe the boy had a huge penis and he was drugged with love. :sign5:

[Brisboy82]

They say you shouldn't accept food or drink from strangers but if you did refuse you'd be missing out on some great experiences. Especially outside of tourist areas where locals invite you to eat with them etc.

From "strangers" my dear. Not from restaurants, an food vendors and all that good stuff! Dont leave your food or drink unattended.

[thonglor55]

They say you shouldn't accept food or drink from strangers ...Are you perhaps misremembering your mother's advice not to accept sweets from strange men?

[Brisboy82]

Well it's been suggested (mainly by travel guides) that if people offer to share their food or drinks with you in SE Asia they might be trying to drug you. But so many times I have been invited to share a meal that some locals have made and I generally wouldnt' decline.

[Beachlover]

Never been robbed anywhere before.

Anytime you're going out in a foreign country on your own, you need to watch your drink closely at all times... especially if you're alone.

[Brisboy82]

Supposed to watch your drink in Australia too. That is where I take the most caution.

I get a bit complacent in Thailand but I know I should keep an eye on it.

[Beachlover]

Supposed to watch your drink in Australia too.
Totally right, although in Australia I'm usually going out with mates so I've got others to watch out for me. If you're alone in a foreign country and incapacitated, you're screwed.

[stevehadders]

Never had an issue in 12 years of visiting Thailand and other countries in SE Asia.

However approx 15 years ago, as a strapping young 25 yr old (well 25 at least) I was with friends in Torremolinos and was befriended by a very handsome Brazilian chap (well he said he was Brazilian). I ended up going back to the "Hostal" he was staying at in Malaga, where I was drugged (in a beer I think), and robbed. I woke up and was very disorientated and the money I had stashed in my shoe (always take precautions...but this guy was an expert), and my wallet was gone. Felt rather stupid by "allowing" this to happen, but this guy was a professional, in every way...I am usually aware of my surroundings and dont take unnecessary risks. On the bright side, I survived, and you read much worse outcomes

Whilst you should always remain cautious I think you are generally safer in Thailand than in Europe, in my opinion, and safer again if you are offing a bar boy (knowing the bar has his ID details )....I am pleased to say Ive had nothing but great guys and many laughs

... I was with friends in Torremolinos ... where I was drugged ...

It has happened to me there too.
Drink was spiked but got out before anything more sinister occurred.
Got home, collapsed, and spent the next 2 days pretty ill.

"Golden Boys" bar - same complex where Dieter used to have "Arcos" (I'm sure some of you will know Dieter :rolling: ).
They have mostly Eastern European boys and barstaff.
It is also pretty dark inside so it's difficult to see what the barman is up to.

It is well known locally for "fixing" the drinks (unfortunately I didn't find this out till afterwards).
Don't go alone!

All part of the consequences of "feasting with jackals" of course.

:occasion9:

[stevehadders]

Ahhhh Arcos - had several enjoyable times in there - at one point there were 3/4 similar such places...last time I visited (I have family in Mijas, and always pop to Torre when in the area) they had all closed due to licensing I believe. Real shame ...so its LOS everytime now

[danny99]

Over the years I have read of quite a few stories where Farangs were drugged and robbed. As stated on other boards they always seem to have huge amounts of cash and very expensive valuables stolen.
Methinks not. Drugged and robbed quite possibly but I suspect the amounts are attempts to diddle the insurance company.

I personally know of three people who were robbed at knife point in their own apartments; one from an arranged meeting on Gay Romeo, then two cute boys turned up and later tied him up naked at knife point and threatened much mutilation to get pin numbers etc [whilst the knife man stayed]...they evidently did that regularaly as they were eventually caught and deported [India or Bangladesh I forget which], another case was from a chance meeting outside of DJ Station one saturday evening, that must have involved drugging as he later woke up at home, stripped and tied down...at knife point also. I overheard someone else graphically describing a similar experience one night at The Balcony, also from DJ Station. All happened at approx same time about 3 years ago.

Ahhhh Arcos - had several enjoyable times in there - at one point there were 3/4 similar such places...last time I visited (I have family in Mijas, and always pop to Torre when in the area) they had all closed due to licensing I believe. Real shame ...so its LOS everytime now

Arcos closed a number of years ago - due to police harassment.
That left Sabrina, Golden Bar, A Noite, and (sometimes) the Mousetrap as boy bars
Sabrina closed and Golden Bar became Golden Boys and moved over the road to the complex where Arcos had been. They also opened a gay sauna next door.
The next development was that Dieter reappeared in a unit downstairs from where Arcos had been - it was called "Encuentros" or similar - and operated in same way as Arcos. He lasted about 2 years there - again police trouble (in fact I was there one night when it was "raided" :rolling: it was funny because there was only me, Dieter, and the barman on the premises :rolling: )
So the current situation is that there is only Golden Boys and the Sauna for picking up trade.
Dieter is still around and I sometimes bump into him in the Calle San Miguel.
And it's not the same now that Danny La Rue, having passed away, isn't making his grand entrance into the gay bars anymore. :crybaby:

:occasion9:

Where were these bars you all speak of, Sunee?
What years were they all here and now you say gone like the wind?

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Thanks, Spain. Well Spain and Brazil are very dangerous. I used to go to Brazil quite often but the precuations one had to take were unbelievable. Hide out in the saunas and the cock was like tree trunks! A bottoms paradise.

[Jellybean]

As thonglor55 said, there was a thread here pretty recently where a poster said he was robbed (in Pattaya I think) and alleged that he had also been drugged. If I recall correctly he did not go to a hospital to have his suspicions confirmed and he did not report the matter to the police. But he was most adamant that he had been drugged by the boy whom he had brought back to his room. If we accept his story as being true then it means there are Thai guys out there who are prepared to resort to this sort of criminal behaviour. It therefore does no harm to flag this subject up every now and again as a wake call to those of us who may have become complacent about our security. I do not recall hearing many such stories on SGT, although I accept that there are probably many cases that go unreported.

I can also sympathise with stevehadders and scottish-guyтАЩs Torremolinos stories. I too had an incident in Spain which left me feeling very foolish and embarrassed. I was in Barcelona about 10 years ago with a Turkish male friend and an Italian female friend. We were having a heavy night of club hopping and ended up at a club which finished earlier than we had been led to believe. We were still rather pie-eyed and not in the mood to go back to our hotels and ended up sitting outside the club talking to local Spanish guys about after-hours clubs. We discovered from one mean looking, steroid pumped-up guy that there was another after-hours club which he recommended and volunteered to take us to. I did not like the guy; there was something about him which had my alarm bells ringing. And I think he knew I was very suspicious of him. However, he was exactly the type that my Turkish friend liked and my Italian female friend also found him very attractive. They persuaded me that we should go with him. We did not however have enough money, but I had a credit card on me so we went looking for an ATM. The Spanish guy was hovering too close to me and as I withdrew about the equivalent of ┬г50.00. I asked him to move away from me. But no sooner had I withdrawn the cash when he snatched the money out of my hands and made off with it. We tried to pursue him in the hope that we would run into some Spanish police officers. He however acted very aggressively and through some dustbins at us! He then flagged down a taxi and made off.

By this time we were not in a party mood and found an early morning coffee shop. My friends readily accepted that I was right to be suspicious of him and agreed to share the cost of the stolen money, so in money terms I did not lose a great deal of money, but it left a very bitter taste in our mouths. I suppose the moral of the story is to be alert to criminal behaviour when you are in foreign countries and take the same precautions you would do when in your home country.

Now to return to the subject of being robbed in Thailand, I can say that, thankfully, I have had no such experience in Thailand. I am sure that the vast majority of us take reasonable, sensible precautions with our security. I put valuables, such as my laptop, mobile phone, camera, credit cards and cash in a safe whether I am at my apartment or in a hotel room. And I never carry a great deal of money with me.

danny99тАЩs Gay Romeo story surprised me as IтАЩve used that Internet site many times, but IтАЩve always taken the precaution of meeting the guy at a public place and suss him out before deciding to take him back to my apartment. Again, being aware of the possibility of such things happening is no bad thing.

I personally donтАЩt think there is any reason to be alarmed, but I think it is a good idea for this subject to be raised from time to time.

Never been robbed anywhere before.

Anytime you're going out in a foreign country on your own, you need to watch your drink closely at all times... especially if you're alone.
Hi,

You'd better do in some bars especailly where they serve draught, you never know how much water they're putting in it, you'd never get pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....................... :laughing3:

You would in my bar you dirty old coot! :sign5: Love ya, Kevin! PS Art says hello. NOT!

[Beachlover]

I personally know of three people who were robbed at knife point in their own apartments... from DJ Station. All happened at approx same time about 3 years ago.
Scary!



you need to watch your drink closely at all times... especially if you're alone.
You'd better do in some bars especailly where they serve draught, you never know how much water they're putting in it, you'd never get pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ya dodgy bar tender, Quill! :rolling:


I am sure that the vast majority of us take reasonable, sensible precautions with our security. I put valuables, such as my laptop, mobile phone, camera, credit cards and cash in a safe whether I am at my apartment or in a hotel room.
Totally agree. I keep all valuables, everything except clothes and toiletries locked up whether I have a guest in my room or not. Most things just stay locked in my suitcase. Stuff I need to access frequently, like my laptop, camera, bundle of cash, wallet etc. go in the room safe for quick access. Easy habit to get into.

Three things to be aware of:

1. Cleaning staff may steal: It may be very rare but even top 5-star hotels have allegations of cleaning staff theft. Just keep valuables out of sight.

2. Your room may be entered while you sleep: When I mainly stayed in cheap guesthouses and backpacker joints, I heard stories of corrupt hotel staff allowing local thieves to discretely access the rooms while guests were sleeping! Especially if they came back drunk.

A mate of mine stumbled back to his room drunk one night in Samui, dropped his shorts and fell into bed. The next morning, his wallet (in which he kept the key he used to open the room door coming in) was missing from his shorts on the floor. There's more to the story as to how he knew what had happened and who did it but I won't go into details here. It's rare but it happens.

I suppose the same applies if there's a stranger in bed with you!

3. Staff may open your safe and take stuff from it on rare occasions: Many safe systems have an override code or master access key. In many cases they don't make it obvious by taking cameras and such. If they see a pile of cash, they'll take a little bit of it every day so you might never suspect a thing.

A hotel in Phuket had this going on a large scale a few years back. Eventually, all the guests cottoned to the disappearing cash together and almost rioted. They camped out the front of the hotel. Police had to be called. It was in the Australian news.

Staff may open your safe and take stuff from it on rare occasions:[/b] Many safe systems have an override code or master access key. In many cases they don't make it obvious by taking cameras and such. If they see a pile of cash, they'll take a little bit of it every day so you might never suspect a thing.





I have tried to tell you all before on this board, it happens in boyztown pattaya too, just because something is not missing immediately does not mean your belongings have not been searched through and your privacy has not been violated!

If some of you are thicker than Daid Beckham's wallet and cannot read what I am telling you, then up to you!

You would in my bar you dirty old coot! :sign5: Love ya, Kevin! PS Art says hello. NOT!


He's not talking to me!!.....lol... do I care?

[Beachlover]

I have tried to tell you all before on this board, it happens in boyztown pattaya too, just because something is not missing immediately does not mean your belongings have not been searched through and your privacy has not been violated!
Well, I didn't start posting on this board until after your absence had started so never saw your warnings but I did see a complaint about that Boyztown hotel on exactly the same lines on another forum just recently!


A hotel in Phuket had this going on a large scale a few years back. Eventually, all the guests cottoned to the disappearing cash together and almost rioted. They camped out the front of the hotel. Police had to be called. It was in the Australian news.
Just adding, the place in Phuket where the police escorted a large group of guests out because they complained of theft is the Sea Sun Sand Resort: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/149 ... r-tourist/ (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/149275-warning-this-hotel-in-phuket-simply-a-trap-for-tourist/) - Don't stay there.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee137/JetsetBkk/seasunsand.jpg

[gra46]

They say you shouldn't accept food or drink from strangers ...Are you perhaps misremembering your mother's advice not to accept sweets from strange men?
well well that brings something back to me when i was a young boy.
I was walking up the road when i was about 15
A car pulls along side me and the old guy says to me ..
Hey boy come in my car and i give you a lollie (sweet)
Really i said give me the fuckin packet i will come in your mouth