PATTAYA

One cannot help but agree with your assessment but add the boys have left in mass and the bottom of the barrel is what is left. Slim Pickens indeed!

[Jellybean]

Oh, an interesting, well stated critique and, dare I say, possibly controversial post, on the city otherwise known as тАЬSleaze-by-the-SeaтАЭ. I am sure the post will stimulate a great deal of comment, especially from those who have chosen to live in Pattaya. I have no strong like or dislike of Pattaya one way or another and have not been going to Pattaya as long as thaitom20011, yet I do recognise parts of the Pattaya he describes. The type of boys that interest me seem harder to find there these days compared with my earlier visits and I do not go there as often as I once did. I look forward with interest to reading other posters opinions on this topic.

Good post thaitom.

It is what it is. I hope you weren't expecting anyone to be surprised.

Oh, an interesting, well stated critique and, dare I say, possibly controversial post, on the city otherwise known as тАЬSleaze-by-the-SeaтАЭ. I am sure the post will stimulate a great deal of comment, especially from those who have chosen to live in Pattaya. I have no strong like or dislike of Pattaya one way or another and have not been going to Pattaya as long as thaitom20011, yet I do recognise parts of the Pattaya he describes. The type of boys that interest me seem harder to find there these days compared with my earlier visits and I do not go there as often as I once did. I look forward with interest to reading other posters opinions on this topic.Jellybean

Miomaker says it is what it is!...Why must the truth be controversial? What is controversial is when someone denies what he knows to be the truth!

[sticky rice]

yes, very good and nail on the head post
:violent1:

One cannot help but agree with your assessment but add the boys have left in mass and the bottom of the barrel is what is left. Slim Pickens indeed!


While I think Thaitom 's post was very interesting indeed, I am distraught to have to agree with him BUT (there is always a BUTT) I need to disagree with Happyboy on the above quote.
The boys, well, yes down in numbers, but I would not say slim pickins or "bottom of the barrel" by no means.
Yes, I have seen a mass exedous of boys and there are by no means the amount of boys there was years gone by, "but not bottom of the barrel." I will not degrade my boys or the boys in all the other bars by that comment. Not picking an altercation, but I think you need to rethink the comment. We have between 10 and 15 boys off per night, and you seem to be posting a few threads for Happy Boys. That would indicate that the pickins aint so slim.

I would also agree with Thaitom that the economy is destroying pattaya as it was known, BUT a new Pattaya is emerging out of the ruins. there are customers and while not the throngs there were before, they are still coming. I do believe that many bars will close right at the end of the high season :sign5: (calling this year and the past few years high seasons was a joke) but the good bars (I think) will remain. They will hold on and no, there will not be dozens of hotels, restaurants and go go bars but the ones that care for thier customers and are smart will survive.
:love4:

What's up dear, did the boy not perform well tonight?

Everybody in Pattaya a sex maniac - except you :rolling:

Everybody in Pattaya an alcoholic - except you :rolling:

Everybody in Pattaya a has-been - except you :rolling:

Everybody in Pattaya a washed-up failure - except you :rolling:

Everybody in Pattaya a crook - except you :rolling:

Personally I would LOVE to know what attraction you find in the "Spanish resorts" - I've never found it - nobody gay appears to be under 30 and even they don't surface until midnight. Uness of course you want to go to the lager-lout hangouts of Benidorm or Ibiza where you can get a beer for 1 Euro and have more chance of being stabbed than getting fucked.

As for these mysterious "Western counterparts" - what a crock of shite! Amsterdam, Paris, Prague, Berlin, Budapest .... I've done them all dear and they are about as interesting nowadays as the contents of a nun's knickers.

I'll stick with Thailand in general, and Pattaya in particular - despite your little rant.

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[thaiguest]

The claim that Pattaya has 'nothing on Spain and eastern Europe ' is as weird as it's a lying load of bullcrap.
Madrid's gay sauna's are seedy and dirty, Torremolinos gay bars (the exception being 'bear bars') are now the preserve of criminal hustlers. In Berlin, Prague and Budapest you need to be very conscious of personal safety before you 'off' anybody and in most cases you need to consult with the bar owners and act/not act accordingly. Give me Pattaya anytime.
The original poster and followers here are either idiots or axe-grinding liars.

That would indicate that the pickins aint so slim.

meh. Some people have a particular type and they are more difficult to please. It is quite possible that the pickings are slim for him. There's obviously no need for you to assume that such opinions are universal.

MLOMKER I am not sure EXACTLY what you mean, and I certainly dont understand "meh" however, if i try to understand or think I understand what you mean, I still stand by my comment. It is true that there may be a particular type of boy that he is looking for, HOWEVER, it would appear to me by his post that Pattaya for some time now DID have young men that he DID like. To say that these type of young men are no longer in existance here in Pattaya is a load of crap. There are probably 30 or so bars here give or take a few and many in Jomtien Complaex as well as Sunee Plaza and others outside of those areas. They are here. You may just need to check out some more bars but they are here.

MLOMKER I am not sure EXACTLY what you mean, and I certainly dont understand "meh" however, if i try to understand or think I understand what you mean, I still stand by my comment. It is true that there may be a particular type of boy that he is looking for, HOWEVER, it would appear to me by his post that Pattaya for some time now DID have young men that he DID like. To say that these type of young men are no longer in existance here in Pattaya is a load of crap. There are probably 30 or so bars here give or take a few and many in Jomtien Complaex as well as Sunee Plaza and others outside of those areas. They are here. You may just need to check out some more bars but they are here.



Excuse the expression unkiebuck but you are pissing in the wind! You want to have a successful bar than you might have done some homework?

[stevehadders]

Pattaya is changing, that is for sure. I don't think we will see the masses we used to in years gone by - the Thai economy has an attractive growth rate, which sems to be sustainable, as such I don't believe we will see exchange rates returning to where they were. However, out of the ashes comes a new Pattaya, which for the gay scene will probably mean fewer bars.
I still believe, however, that there are some great guys out there in the bars - sure there are not as many globally, but quality is still to be found! Pattaya is still great fun - if you prefer elsewhere then thats fine also, I know where my plane is heading!

[a447]

Have to agree with Scottish-guy on this one. I always spend a week or so in Pattaya every April and July, and although I have had some "interesting" experiences there, I'll be heading back again this year. If you look, you will find someone - it just takes a bit of time. I tend to stick with the same guy for a few days before I look for someone different. I even found a manly guy at Happy Boys in Sunee Plaza, although it is populated by rampant fems. Just thought there might be a masculine one amongst them, and sure enough, there was. He was fantastic. Last year I discovered a few new bars in Soi 2. Also last year, I noticed that Holiday 2 on Soi VC had closed down. I wonder if it has opened again. It was the sleaziest place I have ever visited but I just couldn't help myself. I always dropped in for half an hour or so of full-on, in your face debauchery. Sure, in Sunee there were a lot of barely legal younger types , but older masculine guys were available.
This year I will check out Jomtien Complex again. Last year it was dead. I went to one bar opposite the Venue where a guy immediately stuck his hand down my shorts, but I couoldn't find any other place there. Anything changed?
Also, this year I want to find some guys willing to go at it all night long. HNJowever, I will probably need some Viagra to keep going. Is it available? Do you need a prescription?

[Beachlover]

Thaitom20011, well done on a balanced and fair description of Pattaya in a nutshell.

The way you can articulate both the good and bad aspects of Pattaya and its residents while admitting that it still draws you back says you're probably a lot brighter and self-aware than most who visit or live in Pattaya.

I've only visited Pattaya twice but both times it left with me an impression of having a wild west "anything goes" atmosphere where no one would bat an eyelid if Josef Fritzl walked down the street.

[Beachlover]

Excuse the expression unkiebuck but you are pissing in the wind! You want to have a successful bar than you might have done some homework?
Happyboy (Undaunted), you're the perfect example of what thaitom20011 describes as, "non bar owners tend to hang around the same old places every night like the furnishings condemning the lads at every turn as being scroungers wasters... or what ever moan arises". Add to that, creepy, lacking in any form of self-awareness and having no productive pursuit other than to eat, drink, bitch and moan and lurch after your next prostitute... you're pretty much the lowest of the low in the eyes of the country you live in.


there may be a particular type of boy that he [Happyboy/Undaunted]is looking for, HOWEVER, it would appear to me by his post that Pattaya for some time now DID have young men that he DID like. To say that these type of young men are no longer in existance here in Pattaya is a load of crap...
Unkiebuck, you should be aware that Happyboy (also known as "Undaunted") is probably one of the creepiest farangs prowling about Thailand. He's an obnoxious, sociopathic loser who thinks nothing of walking up to people and insulting them and throwing his weight around.

He's also forever going on (on the other forum where he posts) about disliking "fem boys" and goes on and on about how wants "real men" he can "fuck and they suck my cock" [so basically he's incapable of bringing any pleasure to others]. He can't stop talking about wanting masculine men who "look and act like a man" and is forever complaining Thai boys are too feminine... it doesn't really matter what he finds... he'll just forever be moaning and complaining like a moron.

Thanks Beachie as I thought I had missed something there.
I really had thought that I DO have a sucsessful bar and was unsure of what the F*** Undaunted, Happyboy was talking about. I stick with my posts
and for sure it was not the first time he has said unbelievable remarks. Your post clearly explains it.

Thanks, I thought YOU above everyone else would understand the Avatar!

:sign5: :alc:

....
Unkiebuck, you should be aware that Happyboy (also known as "Undaunted") is probably one of the creepiest farangs prowling about Thailand. He's an obnoxious, sociopathic loser who thinks nothing of walking up to people and insulting them and throwing his weight around...

I wish he'd try that one on ME.

I'd shove his wig so far up his arse he'd be coughing up furballs.

:laughing3:

[Beachlover]

That's easy, Scottish. Just walk into Corner Bar any evening.

To my knowledge, Undaunted/Happyboy doesn't wear a wig. But he bleached his hair into this ridiculous bright blonde colour.

That's easy, Scottish. Just walk into Corner Bar any evening.

To my knowledge, Undaunted/Happyboy doesn't wear a wig. But he bleached his hair into this ridiculous bright blonde colour.

If we are talking about "Manfucker" I will stake my reputation ( :rolling: ) on it being a wig!

And a cheap one!

:occasion9:

[Dani69]

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[Beachlover]

If we are talking about "Manfucker" I will stake my reputation ( :rolling: ) on it being a wig!
Ah well, let's just agree Undaunted/Happyboy has pudgy, puffy cheeks and a mopey buffoon face!

[MARK]

Yes poor old Pattaya bit like a bad drug that keeps you coming back for it 15 years and still needing more.
:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

[RichLB]

Thaitom's assessment of Pattaya isn't all wrong. The scene has changed from what it was several years ago, but I don't think things are as dire as he suggests. At one time Pattayaland was about all there was as far as gay bars go. Sunee was there, but it was dominated by a few sleaze bars and, except for the adventurous, not really a place to spend an evening. As I compare the present scene with times past, I think visitors will find that the concentration in Pattayaland has been diluted by the increased popularity of Sunee and now even Jomtien Complex attracts a lot of activity. Then, as I think you'd find everywhere, sites such as Gay Romeo have had an impact on "in bar" "boy hunting.

As to the types of guys available, I think Thaitom might be right about that. There DO seem to be fewer butch acting guys around than before, but it's certainly not difficult to find them in every bar. I don't know if it seems that way because the numbers are actually down or if it's because as I get older most younger guys just seem more effeminate to me.

I'm also struck by Thaitom's assessment of us expats who live here. Personally, I find the expat community uncommonly welcoming of newcomers and always eager to help and befriend newbies. Yeah, as with any group, there's a lot of bitching and sharing of stories about things that go awry amongst us, but isn't that the case with any group of friends? I don't know what kind of sampling Thaitom uses, but the diversity of the expat community seems, to me, one of its strengths. Here in Pattaya, it's the expat status that binds people together. In my home country, my social group was composed of people not that different from me - same educational level, same financial status, same political views, etc. Here, I find expats of every stripe and that's what makes it fun for me.

Anyway, I for one, love my life in Pattaya. It's not for everyone and those that would enjoy retirement somewhere else are welcome to continue to explore the world. Having done that, I'm glad I discovered Pattaya.

[Beachlover]

RichLB, you make some interesting points, especially about the range/mix of farangs in Pattaya. I agree there are some good farangs there.

But no one can deny the farang population there contains many or most of the seediest, creepiest and most screwed up foreigners in Thailand.

[RichLB]

But no one can deny the farang population there contains many or most of the seediest, creepiest and most screwed up foreigners in Thailand.
Beachlover, I don't see the farang in Pattaya the same way you do. The city has its share of those I avoid, but then they can be found anywhere and in no greater percentage in Pattaya. What may be skewing your perception is the diversity of cultures, ages, and economic strata found here. What may seem seedy, creepy and screwed up when measured by the values of one culture can be perfectly acceptable in another country. There's also the problem of those coming from differing social strata learning to get along. In the social class I emerged from such things as sexual exploits and others' financial condition were judged inappropriate for social conversation. I've come to realize that is not a universal value even within my own home culture. I've also had to realize that differences in educational, professional achievement, and economic condition can lead to some real mistaken judgments about the nature of others. I don't mean to be patronizing, but I believe you would be far better served if you celebrated people's differences as opposed to judging them.

As to the types of guys available, I think Thaitom might be right about that. There DO seem to be fewer butch acting guys around than before, but it's certainly not difficult to find them in every bar. I don't know if it seems that way because the numbers are actually down or if it's because as I get older most younger guys just seem more effeminate to me.(quote)RichLB

My visit to Pattaya was a dissapointment not because of the older farangs after all I was there for the boys . I a am far from retirement age but the retirees seemed pleasant enough and appeared to be enjoying life.
I received a PM from a member of this board to tell me Beachlover's anti Pattaya farang tirade is a result of quickly being banned from a popular Pattaya based forum.

I received a PM from a member of this board to tell me Beachlover's anti Pattaya farang tirade is a result of quickly being banned from a popular Pattaya based forum.

You just don't give up trying to stir things up do you Undaunted?

[dab69]

This whole post reminds me of my first visit to Pattaya.
"Accidentally" ran into some Australian social workers who were trying to
run down prostitution and the whole scene of the town.
One was pretending to be a brain surgeon.
It was a pretty pathetic scam. Good intentions for reducing HIV
but not very bright.
Guess they can save money by trying mind control games
on message boards with the same nil results.

The social workers in Australia in the past have had success
with taking away the children of native hill people there en masse
from their parents "for their own good".

[bucknaway]

I try to come to Pattaya with only the expectation of a relaxing holiday. To cross paths with strangers who become temporary friends. I am never there long enough to know or care about what is going on in the everyday lives of those nameless smiling strangers.

When I begin to care about social cliques of bar owners, retired night crawlers and the like than I will know that I am coming to Pattaya for all the wrong reasons.

[Smiles]

I try to come to Pattaya with only the expectation of a relaxing holiday. To cross paths with strangers who become temporary friends. I am never there long enough to know or care about what is going on in the everyday lives of those nameless smiling strangers.

When I begin to care about social cliques of bar owners, retired night crawlers and the like than I will know that I am coming to Pattaya for all the wrong reasons.
Well said Buck. An incredible waste of time.

When it comes to Pattaya, the discussion is always governed by Sayre's Law.

Buck makes a very eloquent point.

[ftj_taw]

When it comes to Pattaya, the discussion is always governed by Sayre's Law.

Buck makes a very eloquent point.

He does, and you must be an academic?

He does, and you must be an academic?

No - I believe the consensus among the "cool kids" is that I am a bitter, grumpy old fuckstick.

[Thai Dyed]

No - I believe the consensus among the "cool kids" is that I am a bitter, grumpy old fuckstick.

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[Beachlover]

The city has its share of those I avoid, but then they can be found anywhere and in no greater percentage in Pattaya.
RichLB, I agree not all Pattaya dwellers are the "undesirable" type and I'm sure there are some wonderful people living there...

But I don't agree the "undesirable" types aren't making up a greater portion of the population in Pattaya than other places. Do you really believe that or are you kidding? Pattaya is well known for having a population of farangs who are "f*cked up" in one or many ways (pardon the language but I'm using an efficient term).

You only have to take a baht bus from Pattaya to Jomtien to notice the number of sleazy, creepy, oblivious, stupid people is way out of proportion to a stroll through Bangkok or Chiang Mai. Worse, take a walk through Sunee Plaza and all you see are sleazy, creepy farang leering at "objects" or mumbling to each other.

I'm not saying all Pattaya residents are like this but a unusually high percentage of them are.

This following story is anecdotal but significant. I remember sitting across from a farang on a baht bus. He was shirtless, hairy stomach bulging over a pair of tiny yellow shorts (only thing he was wearing) and legs spread open. I'm sure there was at least a few pubes visible. I suspect there was more of his bits visible for anyone who looked but I kept my eyes away, not wanting to get an eyeful of this slob. At the same time, he was holding hands with a beautiful Thai girl who was quite nicely dressed for a night out.

I look at that and think, for f*ck's sake, what a loser... Do you ever wonder what a Thai thinks when they see a foreigner going around like that? Pattaya is full of oblivious low lifes like that guy.


What may be skewing your perception is the diversity of cultures, ages, and economic strata found here...
Yeah, look, I agree there's a diversity of cultures, ages and economic strata there. But I disagree diversity has skewed my perception.

Sexual exploits and others' financial condition aren't a taboo topic amongst most of my mates. My lifestyle contains a more diverse social mix than your background did (from what you describe). I mix with all kinds of people, ranging from struggling students to low-income earners on $30k/year to guys on 7 figures. I count a variety of nationalities and religions amongst my friends, from atheists to Christians, Buddhists, Jews and Muslims of varying devoutness... I have a very multicultural range of relationships amongst friends and work contacts... diversity doesn't really shock me at all.

What does disgust me a little is foreigners who go about Thailand with no constructive purpose, living in a bubble of gogo boys, money boys and prostitutes, thinking every Thai they come across is willing to have sex with them for money and coming to the conclusion all Thais are liars, scroungers, poor and uneducated... there's nothing to celebrate about that.



I received a PM from a member of this board to tell me Beachlover's anti Pattaya farang tirade is a result of quickly being banned from a popular Pattaya based forum.
You just don't give up trying to stir things up do you Undaunted?
You're talking to Undaunted, one of the creepiest and seediest expats prowling about Thailand... and he's wrong. I've held this view of Pattaya ever since I visited a couple of years ago. He's living proof of this view.

[Beachlover]

"Look Mommy, a FUCKSTICK!"
ROFL... Funny one, TD.

I'm not saying all Pattaya residents are like this but a unusually high percentage of them are.

I'm impressed that in 2 short trips to Pattaya you were able to interview every resident farang and determine which ones were undesirable.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised since you are smart and good at games.


I look at that and think, for f*ck's sake, what a loser

Oh you poor thing, I know - it's such a trial when the rest of the world cannot live up to your high moral standards. Off with their heads I say!

[Surfcrest]

You only have to take a baht bus from Pattaya to Jomtien to notice the number of sleazy, creepy, oblivious, stupid people is way out of proportion to a stroll through Bangkok or Chiang Mai. Worse, take a walk through Sunee Plaza and all you see are sleazy, creepy farang leering at "objects" or mumbling to each other.

I'm not saying all Pattaya residents are like this but a unusually high percentage of them are.

This following story is anecdotal but significant. I remember sitting across from a farang on a baht bus. He was shirtless, hairy stomach bulging over a pair of tiny yellow shorts (only thing he was wearing) and legs spread open. I'm sure there was at least a few pubes visible. I suspect there was more of his bits visible for anyone who looked but I kept my eyes away, not wanting to get an eyeful of this slob. At the same time, he was holding hands with a beautiful Thai girl who was quite nicely dressed for a night out.

I look at that and think, for f*ck's sake, what a loser... Do you ever wonder what a Thai thinks when they see a foreigner going around like that? Pattaya is full of oblivious low lifes like that guy.


You've taken a baht bus between Pattaya and Jomtien once, maybe twice (you can't remember)....Was the bus full of sleazy, creepy, oblivious, stupid people or is this a conclusion you are coming to after seeing an overweight, hairy chested guy in tiny yellow shorts?

I wonder how many overweight, hary chested guys fit your "oblivious low lifes like that guy" definition here?

[Brad the Impala]

I'm not saying all Pattaya residents are like this but a unusually high percentage of them are.

I'm impressed that in 2 short trips to Pattaya you were able to interview every resident farang and determine which ones were undesirable.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised since you are smart and good at games.

Once in Awhile, it doesn't seem very long ago that you were regularly disparaging Pattaya, and calling it a shithole. Did you not think at that time, like Beachlover, that there was a sizeable sleazy collection of expats?

I think that you just want to disagree with the poster rather than with his point.

[dab69]

Really, whether you know shit or have only been to Pattaya two times,
'who really cares what somebody on the net thinks
if it differs from your own thoughts on the subject.

It's not like we're actually going to
READ all those long winded indulgences of illogic
based on only anecdotal "evidence".

and calling it a shithole.
It is a shithole, and always has been a shithole - that's it's charm.


Did you not think at that time, like Beachlover, that there was a sizeable sleazy collection of expats?

Whatever I might have thought of the expats I didn't call them "undesirables".

[Beachlover]

Once in Awhile, it doesn't seem very long ago that you were regularly disparaging Pattaya, and calling it a shithole. Did you not think at that time, like Beachlover, that there was a sizeable sleazy collection of expats?

I think that you just want to disagree with the poster rather than with his point.
Yep... nail on the head, Brad. He's just looking to pick a never-ending fight no matter the point being made.


Really, whether you know shit or have only been to Pattaya two times,
'who really cares what somebody on the net thinks
if it differs from your own thoughts on the subject.
You obviously do since you're reading all this...


It's not like we're actually going to READ all those long winded indulgences of illogic based on only anecdotal "evidence".
I was responding to RichLB's message. You can barely write coherently, let alone read and articulate an intelligent view on anything, dopey moron...


You've taken a baht bus between Pattaya and Jomtien once, maybe twice (you can't remember)...
I didn't mention the number of times I've taken a baht bus at all...

I know a few ex pats in pattaya , and most of them tell me that the only thing which keeps them in pattaya apart from the weather is sex, on tap nothing else.

[gerefan2]

We have between 10 and 15 boys off per night,

Well unclebuckie thats an average of 3 per hour (8.30 --01.30) not allowing for perhaps 45 minutes show time and a slow first hour?

It wouldnt leave you any at all at closing time!

Are you perhaps exaggerating a little?

[Surfcrest]

I've held this view of Pattaya ever since I visited a couple of years ago.

When people come here looking for information or advice (Advice About First Trip To Bangkok) about Thailand or Pattaya for that matter you're one of the first on your feet telling them the beaches are shit, the views are shit not to mention your views on the people included in this thread.

YouтАЩve been here twice right, your last visit two years agoтАжone of those visits in the time of year when there were jellyfish?

It sounds as though you have an axe to grind with Pattaya, the people from Pattaya or your message board adversaries from Pattaya.

For me, Pattaya is not the only place on the planet I spend a good deal of time at while away from home during the yearтАж.but for me, itтАЩs one of the best and my little taste of heaven (or so IтАЩm hoping heaven will turn out to be). I love living out in Jomtien, the community in the complex where I live, mornings in the pool, lazy sunny days at the beach with a book, the food and drinks, massages, manicures, sunsets, the people (both Thai and Farang). Unfortunately, none of this would exist if people didnтАЩt comeтАж..and so I worry when someone tries as hard as you to scare folks away. So far, all of this is here for us and when we arenтАЩt hereтАж.other people move in, like the straight families, or the Russians orтАжтАж

There is good and bad with everywhere in the world, your bad is another oneтАЩs good. The aspects of Pattaya I donтАЩt appreciate are easy enough for me to avoid. But itтАЩs great having so much to do, so many places to go out for dinner, so many places to go out for drinks and all this so close. Most of all, I enjoy being close to the wonderful ex-pat friends IтАЩve had for many years and who certainly donтАЩt fit any of your descriptions.

[Brad the Impala]

I've held this view of Pattaya ever since I visited a couple of years ago.

When people come here looking for information or advice (Advice About First Trip To Bangkok) about Thailand or Pattaya for that matter you're one of the first on your feet telling them the beaches are shit, the views are shit not to mention your views on the people included in this thread. .

A view that is clearly shared by the opening poster, BL and others, and myself, who first visited forty years ago. Clearly some people need only one or two visits to reach the same conclusion, and good luck to them. Surely no one can claim other than that the overwhelming reason that most expats live in Pattaya, rather than anywhere else in Thailand, or the world, is for the easy availability of paid sexual partners, and the company of their other customers.

[Thor69]

Seriously, no one comes to Pattaya for the beaches. I would think it would be the cheap food, alcohol, smokes and sex that is the main draw. Those that claim differently are just kidding themselves.

There is good and bad with everywhere in the world, your bad is another oneтАЩs good.

Surfcrest you've hit the nail on the head with the above sentence so instead of having a go at others who might not like Pattaya then just post about the things that you like. Both the negative and positive posts are interesting, and let's face it most people go then make up their own minds. I don't think a few negative posts or positive ones in this forum are really going to sway someone either one way or the other.

[RichLB]

Surely no one can claim other than that the overwhelming reason that most expats live in Pattaya, rather than anywhere else in Thailand, or the world, is for the easy availability of paid sexual partners, and the company of their other customers.
I disagree. In fact most of the expats I know love Pattaya for far more mundane reasons. Where else in the world can one find such an array of restaurants offering great food from almost every country in the world prepared by "semi retired" chefs who cook for the love of cooking - and all within a few minutes from each other?

The beach is also a major factor. In Jomtien one can experience everything from a quiet afternoon in relative solitude to a party atmosphere with strolling vendors, friendly expats in the chairs alongside, lots of eye candy, drinks and food brought to you, etc. For the active you have the choice of jet skiis, banana boats, parasailing, and about any other form of water sports (NO, not that kind!) If it's pristine cleanliness you want, that's available on Koh Lan only a 15 minute boat ride away.

Nightlife is certainly a reason to enjoy living in Pattaya. If one wishes to immerse themselves in a never ending circus of sexual adventuring, the option is certainly here. But, surprising as it may be, for those of us living here that actually gets old after awhile. Here you will find multiplex movie theaters, jazz clubs, show venues, festivals, and about every other form of entertainment you can think of.

And don't forget the athletic options Pattaya offers. The city hosts 17 (I think that's the number) golf courses, tennis courts everywhere, horse back riding, softball teams, pool leagues, etc. There's no reason to be a couch potato here.

Adding to all this are the Thais, themselves. Thailand isn't called the Land of Smiles for no reason. They've got to be the friendliest people int the world. And for those who get itchy, Bangkok - one of the world's premier cities - is only two hours away by bus.

And last, but not least, there is, of course, the cost of living here. True, prices are rising as they are everywhere in the world. But to be able to live in a condo right on the beach for less than $750US per month is a bargain. Transportation around the city is readily available and carries a negligible cost. Food, either bought at a Thai market or at a fine dining restaurant, costs a fraction of whatone would find in my home country.

Frankly, I don't know what Pattaya the naysayers are seeing, but it certainly isn't the Pattaya I live in. Life here is idyllic.

Seriously, no one comes to Pattaya for the beaches. I would think it would be the cheap food, alcohol, smokes and sex that is the main draw. Those that claim differently are just kidding themselves.

At last a realist! For many of those older guys living in Pattaya I should think sex is not that important. I am 43 and I as you have written want sex, the problem for the sexually active is that the choices in Pattaya when I was there were limited, either they were aging go go boys or young guys that really want to be woman. So it was an easy decision for me I checked out and went to BKK......Granted the bar scene also has changed in BKK but nothing like what has happened to Pattaya. My sexual appetite was well satisfied on the first floor mat D.J. Station or simply meeting young guys just walking.

I know a few ex pats in pattaya , and most of them tell me that the only thing which keeps them in pattaya apart from the weather is sex, on tap nothing else.


Yes,Yes,Yes,

Beaches,.... Go to Bali,Sri Lanka, Koh Samui,etc

Culture and History,... China,Italy,France, UK, and loads of others.

Scenery,...India,Zambia,Gambia,Kenya,Tanzania,Aust ralia,USA,New Zealand etc.

Sex in the city,Blackpool with no knickers on..............................P.A.T.T.A.Y.A..... ................. :laughing3: :laughing3: :laughing3:

and let them all stick to what they're good at!

the Ex Pat gay community is a very closely knitted bunch they all know each others business , plus the same old routine ! bed, beach , bar , charity nights abound as the biggest money earners.
Pattaya has nothing on the Spanish resorts

The first is why I love these boards the second is nonsense. Spanish resorts are foul for all the known reasons.

On the first Im trying to find a gay very successful "bottom" Dutch business man formerly working in Bangkok now living and working in Pattaya in the tourist sector but not bar scene. This is in relation to a certain "Joe" still living and working in Bangkok. It's a bit of a scandal.

There isn't much to go on but "successful" , "Dutch" and "gay bottom" cant be too many of those?

Anyone have any clues please answer right here.

Cedric

[Beachlover]

When people come here looking for information or advice (Advice About First Trip To Bangkok) about Thailand or Pattaya for that matter you're one of the first on your feet telling them the beaches are shit, the views are shit not to mention your views on the people included in this thread.
Firstly, I don't think what one person says on a forum is really going to impact how many visitors choose to go to Pattaya.

I did say the beaches are sh*t and that was relative to the other beach location being discussed, Phuket. It's also true when Pattaya is compared with other beach destinations, Samui, Krabi etc. If someone's seeking a stereotypical beautiful Thailand tropical paradise beach scene, I really don't think Pattaya is the place to try.

I don't disagree with some of your other points about Pattaya. It does have some upsides and one man's meat is another man's potato.


I disagree. In fact most of the expats I know love Pattaya for far more mundane reasons.
I agree Pattaya has some strong points other than sex. But I believe sex is still the biggest reason people choose to visit/live there.

While, "sex on tap" might be the biggest reason people visit Pattaya, it still wouldn't draw so many if it weren't supported by a certain level of nightlife/dining/amenities and other factors.


Where else in the world can one find such an array of restaurants offering great food from almost every country in the world prepared by "semi retired" chefs who cook for the love of cooking - and all within a few minutes from each other?
I don't know about "semi-retired" chefs, but lots of other places have an as good or better range of restaurants and eateries... Bangkok for starters.


Nightlife is certainly a reason to enjoy living in Pattaya.
I agree Pattaya might be strong on the "commercial sex nightlife" front (depending on who you ask) but other than that, Pattaya doesn't beat Bangkok for nightlife in my opinion. As far as your love life goes, you're also far less likely to find a geniune boyfriend or a hook up not associated with paid sex in Pattaya than you are in Bangkok.


Adding to all this are the Thais, themselves.
They can be found all over Thailand... and I might say, the Thais outside Pattaya are probably more genuine and less jaded by foreigners.


And last, but not least, there is, of course, the cost of living here.
I agree it's probably cheaper than living in Bangkok and Phuket but just about everywhere else in Thailand is cheaper than Pattaya. If you think Pattaya is cheap, ask people like Matt how much it costs to live in Khon Kaen or others living in Udon Thani, Chiang Mai etc.

I'm not saying Pattaya is a complete sh*thole in every respect. I wouldn't rule out going back for a short visit myself. But I think it's only fair to bring to light some of the less desirable aspects of it.

But I think it's only fair to bring to light some of the less desirable aspects of it.

But you didn't do that until now. What you actually did was pass judgement on a significant number of visitors and residents, based on a few "anecdotal" baht bus rides.
In your own words you called them sleazy, creepy, oblivious, stupid, losers, low lifes.

Based on a 10 minute ride with someone, that you know nothing about, haven't spoken to, and barely looked at lest you get "an eyeful of the slob", you can make a complete moral determination of their character,worth and desirability and then condemn them. Judge, jury and executioner all rolled into one. And no room given for a dissenting opinion. The self described "cool kid" has spoken and all his little sycophants rally to his defence.

Always very quick to call someone a fuckstick. Go have a look in the mirror.

[springco]

But I think it's only fair to bring to light some of the less desirable aspects of it.

But you didn't do that until now. What you actually did was pass judgement on a significant number of visitors and residents, based on a few "anecdotal" baht bus rides.
In your own words you called them sleazy, creepy, oblivious, stupid, losers, low lifes.

Based on a 10 minute ride with someone, that you know nothing about, haven't spoken to, and barely looked at lest you get "an eyeful of the slob", you can make a complete moral determination of their character,worth and desirability and then condemn them. Judge, jury and executioner all rolled into one. And no room given for a dissenting opinion. The self described "cool kid" has spoken and all his little sycophants rally to his defence.

Always very quick to call someone a fuckstick. Go have a look in the mirror.

WOW! Perfect "Once In Awhile"! I wish I had written that, but since I didn't, allow me to second your comment.

[Surfcrest]

Where else in the world can one find such an array of restaurants offering great food from almost every country in the world prepared by "semi retired" chefs who cook for the love of cooking - and all within a few minutes from each other?
I don't know about "semi-retired" chefs, but lots of other places have an as good or better range of restaurants and eateries... Bangkok for starters.


Please tell me which restaurants or eateries in Bangkok are good, which places you have eaten at and liked!
I'll be in Bangkok tomorrow and and staying for a week, so the more suggestions the better :)

[Brad the Impala]

Each to his own, and maybe I will visit again someday when I am looking for sleaze, after all that has it's place in the world. However the city of Pattaya, and district of Banglamung, will never outlive it's original commercial origins as a fishing village that by happenstance became the R & R centre for American troops in Vietnam. Anyone representing it currently as a bastion of haute cuisine or a pristine beach resort is clearly delusional!

My idea of hell is to be squashed amongst red pigs sandwiched into deckchairs that are compacted on a beach like sardines in a can, leaving barely any exposed sand, and off which the sea is a minefield of raw sewage. Add to the mix that most of the corpulent pigs believe that their economic power justifies their attitudes of racial superiority to the locals, about whom they are drooling in the midday sun, and Dante's Inferno begins to become an attractive proposition.

[Jason1988]

.... the bar scene also has changed in BKK but nothing like what has happened to Pattaya. My sexual appetite was well satisfied on the first floor mat D.J. Station or simply meeting young guys just walking.

Pattaya has changed over the last few years. The number of boys in the bars has decreased. And yes, you will find some very nice boys just by walking around or in other places than the bars. Maybe Gay Romeo has added to the competition. It may be that lazy bar owners are not recruiting boys in the ways that they use to. If the bar owners aren't careful they will find themselves losing more and more customers as time goes on.

Well Bradley, given that you're a censorious, self righteous prig, I can't imagine that you'll be missed.

We have between 10 and 15 boys off per night,

Well unclebuckie thats an average of 3 per hour (8.30 --01.30) not allowing for perhaps 45 minutes show time and a slow first hour?

It wouldnt leave you any at all at closing time!

Are you perhaps exaggerating a little?


I am not going to debate with you about my figures. It is obvious you want to pick a fight. Why else would you quote something so far in the past that it is not even relevant to the current discusiion but......If you must attack.....
First of all, most boys are not offed at opening time. Second of all most boys are not offed during show time. That leaves about 3 prime time hours and 3 offs per hour is certainly not uncommon. Last night for example we had 7 go go boys offed and 2 staff members offed before midnight which left me with 8 go go boys and 9 other staff that may be offed.
You can view my records anytime your little heart desires or better yet, you may buy my bar and see for yourself but until you OWN a bar and see for yourself, shove your incinuations where the sun dont shine.
:occasion9:

[RichLB]

Each to his own, and maybe I will visit again someday when I am looking for sleaze, after all that has it's place in the world. However the city of Pattaya, and district of Banglamung, will never outlive it's original commercial origins as a fishing village that by happenstance became the R & R centre for American troops in Vietnam. Anyone representing it currently as a bastion of haute cuisine or a pristine beach resort is clearly delusional!

Given your attitude - and apparently the city you are attempting to describe - I think both would be well served if you decided to frequent other places. For those who have not visited Pattaya, be aware that Brad's jaundice view is most probably more a reflection of who he is than it is what Pattaya is.

I am not going to debate with you about my figures. It is obvious you want to pick a fight. Why else would you quote something so far in the past that it is not even relevant to the current discusiion but......If you must attack.....
First of all, most boys are not offed at opening time. Second of all most boys are not offed during show time. That leaves about 3 prime time hours and 3 offs per hour is certainly not uncommon. Last night for example we had 7 go go boys offed and 2 staff members offed before midnight which left me with 8 go go boys and 9 other staff that may be offed.
You can view my records anytime your little heart desires or better yet, you may buy my bar and see for yourself but until you OWN a bar and see for yourself, shove your incinuations where the sun dont shine.
:occasion9:

Just me how much do you make per off?

Just me how much do you make per off?


300 for go go boys
400 for staff and show boys
500 for assistant managers
1000 for manager/fire eater

300 for go go boys
400 for staff and show boys
500 for assistant managers
1000 for manager/fire eater

Thats very greedy, :snorting:

I thought the price of drinks covered your sordid enterprise. Can I see a picture of the manager? Just want to compare.

300 for go go boys
400 for staff and show boys
500 for assistant managers
1000 for manager/fire eater

Thats very greedy, :snorting:

I thought the price of drinks covered your sordid enterprise. Can I see a picture of the manager? Just want to compare.

Greedy?? Greedy!! And who told you drinks made the entire enterprise profitable?? Whoever it was needs to get a bar and figure it out for themselves.
And as far as you are concerned, I think you should get a bar and run it before you call a person greedy! Our prices for alcohol and beer are the lowest in the Boys Town area and our off fees are the lowest!!
You pay the rents, utilities and salaries we have to pay before calling us greedy!
Have you even ventured in our establishment before calling it sordid and saying we are greedy? I think not!
And this is what makes me sick! We provide a nice comfortable, clean, safe enviornment and walk away at the end of the month with no profit, just have a good time.... we call it a hobby rather than a job, and there comes some idiot that doesnt know diddly squat and tells me what the margins are.

:violent1: :sign3:

Greddy?? Greedy!! and who told you drinks made the entire enterprise profitable?? whoever it was needs to get a bar and figure it out for themselves.
And as far as you are concerned, I think you should get a bar and run it before you call a person greedy! Our prices for alcohol and beer are the lowest in the Boys Town area and our off fees are the lowest!!
you pay the rents, utilities and salaries we have to pay before calling us greedy!
Have you even ventured in our establishment before calling it sordid and saying we are greedy? I think not!
And this is what makes me sick! We provide a nice comfortable, clean, safe enviornment and wlak away at the end of the month with no profit, just have a good time.... we call it a hobby rather than a job, and there comes some idiot that doesnt know diddly squat and tells me what the margins are.

:rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

:hello1: er just so. Now about that picture of the manager?

I wonder how other bars cope the ones without flesh trade?

Just me how much do you make per off?


300 for go go boys
400 for staff and show boys
500 for assistant managers
1000 for manager/fire eater

Which bar are you?

But I think it's only fair to bring to light some of the less desirable aspects of it.

But you didn't do that until now. What you actually did was pass judgement on a significant number of visitors and residents, based on a few "anecdotal" baht bus rides.
In your own words you called them sleazy, creepy, oblivious, stupid, losers, low lifes.

Based on a 10 minute ride with someone, that you know nothing about, haven't spoken to, and barely looked at lest you get "an eyeful of the slob", you can make a complete moral determination of their character,worth and desirability and then condemn them. Judge, jury and executioner all rolled into one. And no room given for a dissenting opinion. The self described "cool kid" has spoken and all his little sycophants rally to his defence.

Always very quick to call someone a fuckstick. Go have a look in the mirror.

WOW! Perfect "Once In Awhile"! I wish I had written that, but since I didn't, allow me to second your comment.




Forget Beahlover he Is yesterdays news! Hail Cedric...At least his many posts are worth reading!

[Beachlover]

My idea of hell is to be squashed amongst red pigs sandwiched into deckchairs that are compacted on a beach like sardines in a can, leaving barely any exposed sand, and off which the sea is a minefield of raw sewage. Add to the mix that most of the corpulent pigs believe that their economic power justifies their attitudes of racial superiority to the locals, about whom they are drooling in the midday sun, and Dante's Inferno begins to become an attractive proposition.
Nicely summed up, Brad!


Well Bradley, given that you're a censorious, self righteous prig, I can't imagine that you'll be missed.
That's a bit rich coming from a censorious f*ckstick.


But you didn't do that until now. What you actually did was pass judgement on a significant number of visitors and residents, based on a few "anecdotal" baht bus rides. In your own words you called them sleazy, creepy, oblivious, stupid, losers, low lifes.
You're wrong. I've commented like this on Pattaya number of times. Even recently, in the thread with the "visit Pattaya or Phuket" question I presented the ups and downs of both destinations. I've never denied Pattaya has its good points and have often pointed them out. I've visited the place twice myself and may well do so again if I want to spend a day or two chilling on a beach and can't be arsed flying to Phuket or Samui.

I also stated myself the description of the baht bas ride was an anecdote so f*cksticks like you wouldn't claim my opinion on the people there is based purely on that single experience. Are you an unintelligent dumb arse?


no room given for a dissenting opinion.
Isn't dissenting opinion what you a few others are offering? Yes.

Am I the moderator or owner here? No.

[Beachlover]

Anyone representing it currently as a bastion of haute cuisine or a pristine beach resort is clearly delusional!
Given your attitude - and apparently the city you are attempting to describe - I think both would be well served if you decided to frequent other places. For those who have not visited Pattaya, be aware that Brad's jaundice view is most probably more a reflection of who he is than it is what Pattaya is.
I disagree with this, RichLB. I think Brad's view is probably more reflective of him being a more self-aware and able to observe things in perspective rather than be immersed in a place to a degree that broader perspective goes out the window.

If you were to say you love Pattaya because of a variety of reasons but also acknowledge it has a variety of downsides including the character of its population I'd say that's fair enough. But to be in denial to the extent that you refuse to believe Pattaya has a higher proportion of sleazy, creepy and oblivious farangs than normal indicates you might be losing your perspective from being too immersed in the place.


Please tell me which restaurants or eateries in Bangkok are good, which places you have eaten at and liked!
I'll be in Bangkok tomorrow and and staying for a week, so the more suggestions the better :)
Funnily enough, food and dining aren't really a high priority for me in Bangkok. I enjoy eating at a lot of street food stalls in Bangkok.

Scoozi Pizza Restaurant does terrific Italian food/pizzas.

One trip, a Thai boy I dated took me to a heap of great restaurants and eateries all over Bangkok (he really knew where to go) but I didn't think to actually remember any of them for later!


Pattaya has changed over the last few years. The number of boys in the bars has decreased. And yes, you will find some very nice boys just by walking around or in other places than the bars. Maybe Gay Romeo has added to the competition. It may be that lazy bar owners are not recruiting boys in the ways that they use to. If the bar owners aren't careful they will find themselves losing more and more customers as time goes on.
I suspect the bar owners are commercially sandwiched in the middle here.

1. On one side, a combination of (1) decreasing sex tourists and (2) increasing use of Gay Romeo may mean working boys are less inclined to work in gogo bars.

2. This results in a weaker value offering for bar customers.

3. Bar owners need to arrest this and attract better talent by rethinking their EVP (employer value proposition).

4. But the financial pressures put on by the BIB make it challenging for bar owners to to add to their EVP. Out of all the parties involved here, the BIB are probably the least elastic and slowest to adapt to market dynamics (they're slowest to lower their demands for bribes in response to decreased profitability in this business). I doubt their "licensing fees" have been lowered in response to decreasing revenues in this industry yet.

5. Since working boys are more maneuverable (they can switch their method/venue for acquiring customers anytime), this leaves bar owners to take most of the "hit".

Please tell me which restaurants or eateries in Bangkok are good, which places you have eaten at and liked!
I'll be in Bangkok tomorrow and and staying for a week, so the more suggestions the better :)

I love food In fact I have both series of Julia Childs "Bon Appetit". Hilarious stuff well worth watching she gaffs most of it.

There is a new restaurant well worth trying I just had fish balls, crab curry (de exoskeletoned or what ever they may call it, picking all the meat out of the thing for you)
and a delicious veg. All comes fresh from Phuket, indeed its called "Phuket Town" Thonglor area of Bangkok. It was a long drive from my hotel but very well worth it on reflection and you should try.

Everything was delicious and the aromas coming out of that little eaterie are tremendous, in one big wiff you can see smell the ocean the palms the sizzling food et etc

I wont bore you with all the details but here is a site that can do it for me. As well as give you the address. Bon Appetit!!

http://www.pekopiko.com/language/en-US/ ... ngkok.aspx (http://www.pekopiko.com/language/en-US/Reviews/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/24/Phuket-Town-serving-up-some-of-the-Best-Southern-Region-Thai-Food-in-Bangkok.aspx)

[ er just so. Now about that picture of the manager??


Wishful thinking, so you can sit in front of your computer and jerk off? Go to the bar and see him.


[ I wonder how other bars cope the ones without flesh trade?

What? The ones in Sunee Plaza with 1/3 of the rent, no airconditioning or show? Are those the ones you want to compare me to? Apples to Oranges?
Do me a favor Cedric, come back to me when you have a clue. :violent1:

[ er just so. Now about that picture of the manager??


Wishful thinking, so you can sit in front of your computer and jerk off? Go to the bar and see him.

Cedric let me give you a little hint:

The "manager" you are wanting a photo of is NOT the gogo boy who is a dead ringer for Stan Laurel.

:rolling:

Wishful thinking, so you can sit in front of your computer and jerk off? Go to the bar and see him.

What? The ones in Sunee Plaza with 1/3 of the rent, no airconditioning or show? Are those the ones you want to compare me to? Apples to Oranges?
Do me a favor Cedric, come back to me when you have a clue. :violent1:
:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

I am absolutely naive on how your industry operates Im relying on you to tell me. I just wonder if guys shouldn't form a collective and rent their own space and share all the profits between themselves, I mean, why do they need you...?

As for masturbating in front of my computer it would be cruel to my favorite pugs who lie under my desk, I will never allow lawrence to have a water pistol I've told him already when he shot me in the eye while I was changing his nappy, talk about a golden shower it was more like a golden bullet!

Not my types Scot
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/5435439974_65a7f216e0.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/64918943@N00/5435439974/)

[ am absolutely naive on how your industry operates Im relying on you to tell me. I just wonder if guys shouldn't form a collective and rent their own space and share all the profits between themselves, I mean, why do they need you...?:

CEDRIC, I need to say that you are an idiot. there, said and done.
From your boring idiotic posts about your baby boy to the fact that you dont know where to buy condoms.
Then you stuoidly make a post stating that our entertainment center is GREEDY for charging off fees and posting a picture of a pig to emphasize your comment and then follow it up with a comment that


[ am absolutely naive on how your industry operates Im relying on you to tell me

So any one with an ounce of brains would say, if you have no idea of my industry and its costs..... how the hell did you come to make the first comment that we were greedy?


I just wonder if guys shouldn't form a collective and rent their own space and share all the profits between themselves, I mean, why do they need you...?:

Well obviously, if they had the MONEY and the DESIRE and the KNOWLEDGE of how to run a business, well I guess they could, but they dont.

Now dear, a question, who do you WORK for and why is it you work for someone?? After all dont you have the money and brains and knowledge to run that business yourself rather than work for your current employer.

Its time you give up on this as you are only making yourself look ridiculous! :sign3: :occasion9:

CEDRIC, I need to say that you are an idiot. there, said and done.

you stuoidly make a post stating that our entertainment center is GREEDY

.... how the hell did you come to make the first comment that we were greedy?

Well obviously, if they had the MONEY and the DESIRE and the KNOWLEDGE of how to run a business, well I guess they could, but they dont.

Now dear, a question, who do you WORK for and why is it you work for someone?? After all dont you have the money and brains and knowledge to run that business yourself rather than work for your current employer.

Its time you give up on this as you are only making yourself look ridiculous! :sign3: :occasion9:
:rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

OK I must come clean on this , I have never offed a boy. Closest I came was when a barman at a disco in Bangkok asked me out but then I suppose he was offing me, I was so drunk on Whiskey all he did was take me safely home, so no offing was actually enacted.

I called you greedy cause it sounded like a lot to me taken from the mouths of those poverty stricken Isarn boys (etc). I usualy tip about 1000baht for massage (straight). Im not sure what your game is exctly here. You let them come into the bar and dance with their cocks in their hands whatever, attracting crowds in to drink then you charge an off fee?

My experience on these matter is limited to my student days in Amsterdam when I once had the whole "stable" (boys) from the Why Not club move into my ware house apartment. They were so disgruntled by the small ammount they actualy made compared to the Pimp that they went on strike and moved in with me. It was an education, I ended up sleeping with five boys every night, not in the off sense just doo do nighty night sleep sense.

I wonder wouldnt it be a good thing to set up these boys in establishmets of their own so that they could learn the ropes and maybe give you a small percentage instead, that is when they were up and profitable? :evil4:

On the work thing its no use I work for family, as such myself. Wouldnt it be nice if they could too, I know you are not a charity gawd forbid, but it just makes sense to me to foster sustainable development for some of the poorest people in Thailand.

Money Desire and Knowledge? Well I reckon first the knowledge which you have, then the desire/motivation which they will get from the knowledge you give them then the backing money which I suppose you also have, so give some of it up? Throw water in the beer anything whos side are you on?

CEDRIC, ...you are an idiot..

Unkie - you are being too kind.


:occasion9:

CEDRIC, ...you are an idiot..

Unkie - you are being too kind.


:occasion9:


LOL! For once Scottish, I have to applaud you! Not only is he an idiot but suggests that I should be a charity. Isnt it enough that we dont make enough to cover our expenses, and therefore are to a point sustaining our hobby and charity??

Hey Cedric?? Hows about you sending us some money to pay our bills and our boys and support THIS charity?? If you help us I swear I wont make fun of your stupidity anymore!
:love4:

CEDRIC, ...you are an idiot..

Unkie - you are being too kind.


Yes Cedric you are being too kind, the two headed bar owner you speak of is indeed a fool! He is the one stuck with the bar not you.
:occasion9:

CEDRIC, ...you are an idiot..

Unkie - you are being too kind.


Yes Cedric you are being too kind, the two head bar owner you speak of is indeed a fool! He is the one stuck with the bar not you.
:occasion9:
ha ha ha and its a charity too??? :rolling:

Hey Cedric?? Hows about you sending us some money to pay our bills and our boys and support THIS charity?? If you help us I swear I wont make fun of your stupidity anymore!
:love4:

Well honey hottie bumpkin, I have been thinking (yea yea yea) but I do want to do something. I will tell you after I have supervised laws sleepy, later. :hello2:

He is the one stuck with the bar not you.



Oh of course our intellegent Undaunted, I mean Happyboy and several other names has to jump in while the fire is hot. :sign5:

My dears, I did not get stuck with any bar. I went in with the full knowlege of what I was doing and what I got into. And might I add, created one hell of a club!
While it may make little to no profit as expenses are high, it provides me exactly what I wanted, a hobby, something to keep me occupied in my retirement,
something to do in the evenings to keep me busy and most of all it gave me the pride to know that I was able to once again create something that I myself and hundreds of other people enjoy and have fun working with!

That is more than I can say abot you UNDAUNTED. You are just a grumpy old man who screams anti-semitism at every turn and tries to intimidate people, which makes you happy. Trying to bring misery to others.

And Cedric, I said it before, and I say it again, you sit at home and try to fantasize about all these things you did and try to come up with these unbelievably stupid imaginary stories.

The Pathetic Duo :occasion9:



I will tell you after I have supervised laws sleepy, later.


I am sorry idiot, is that English??

....

The Pathetic Duo :occasion9:

How about:

The Gruesome Twosome??

:occasion9: :occasion9:

....

The Pathetic Duo :occasion9:

How about:

The Gruesome Twosome??

:occasion9: :occasion9:

Excellent! :sign5:

....The Pathetic Duo :occasion9:

How about:The Gruesome Twosome?? :occasion9: :occasion9:


One with a plastic baby doll in a pushchair, and the other with a toy dog, what a pair they make. In fact you couldn't make it up if you tried, well not in the real world anyway.

BTW 'justme', good retort and nice to know that you run your bar as a hobby; only a fool would go into something like that as a business venture nowadays!

PS. to Undaunted/Happyboy


I am glad you bid on and then backed out of buying the Grande Dame Champagne I had for sale that said made your lips wet as such a fine bottle does not deserve coming near that mouth: i will be enjoying it tonight at Brunos with a client!
:sign5: :sign5: :sign5: :sign5: :sign5:
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[quote="combat"

BTW 'justme', good retort and nice to know that you run your bar as a hobby; only a fool would go into something like that as a business venture nowadays![/quote]


Aint that the truth!! :love4:

He is the one stuck with the bar not you.



"You are just a grumpy old man who screams anti-semitism at every turn." (quote)justme I didn't realize you were from the semitic part of the world which encompasses most of Arabia!

[Beachlover]

CEDRIC, I need to say that you are an idiot. there, said and done.
From your boring idiotic posts about your baby boy to the fact that you dont know where to buy condoms.
Then you stuoidly make a post stating that our entertainment center is GREEDY for charging off fees and posting a picture of a pig to emphasize your comment and then follow it up with a comment that
Nicely said... totally agree!


That is more than I can say abot you UNDAUNTED. You are just a grumpy old man who screams anti-semitism at every turn and tries to intimidate people, which makes you happy. Trying to bring misery to others.
True. Undaunted is a dysfunctional f*ckstick who adds no value to anyone's life at all... and now you'll know if he ever walks into your bar.


it gave me the pride to know that I was able to once again create something that I myself and hundreds of other people enjoy and have fun working with!
That's what entrepreneurship is all about! (Aside from profit, of course)

[quote="Once In Awhile"]The self described "cool kid" has spoken and all his little sycophants rally to his defence. :sign5:
Always very quick to call someone a fuckstick. Go have a look in the mirror.[quote]


Wow! This gets better with age!

justme I didn't realize you were from the semitic part of the world which encompasses most of Arabia!


Hey everyone!!! Get a load of this crap from Undaunted, I mean Happyboy, I mean Manfucker and a few other names...... I am an Arabian man from a nation within the Islamic World!!

Aint that a pisser!! :sign5:
Shit, I'm gonna have to send a message to my mother cause she always told me that I was a New York Jew!! I coulda sworn I grew up in Long Island!!
:sign5: :sign5: :sign5: :sign5:

and wow it gets better!!


and all his little sycophants rally to his defence!
Seems that I (justme) was having a little tif with CEDRIC and who jumps in from nowhere??? Why its Happyboy to Cedrics defense!! :sign5:
OH this is killing me!! Hey Im choking. Someone get me a glass of water! :sign5:


Wow! This gets better with age!!

Ain't that the truth??
Hey everyone, come quick, I am finally winning one!!
:sign5:
:

Hey everyone!!! Get a load of this crap from Undaunted, I mean Happyboy and a few other names...... I am an Arabian man from a nation within the Islamic World!!

Take no notice justme, he's just a venomous little man who delights in name calling all and sundry, and trying to draw them into a war of words. I should think he's being watched by the mods who will intervene when necessary, some of his previous posts have already been deleted.

Hey everyone!!! Get a load of this crap from Undaunted, I mean Happyboy and a few other names...... I am an Arabian man from a nation within the Islamic World!!

Take no notice justme, he's just a venomous little man who delights in name calling all and sundry, and trying to draw them into a war of words. I should think he's being watched by the mods who will intervene when necessary, some of his previous posts have already been deleted.



Don't worry combat maybe there is still a place for you!

PS. to Undaunted/Happyboy


I am glad you bid on and then backed out of buying the Grande Dame Champagne I had for sale that said made your lips wet as such a fine bottle does not deserve coming near that mouth: i will be enjoying it tonight at Brunos with a client!
:sign5: :sign5: :sign5: :sign5: :sign5:
:occasion9: :occasion9: :occasion9: :occasion9:


With a client eh?

Along with honourable solicitors I suppose you can use the term! :laughing3:

I use to call them punters,is a client an upmarket punter or one who solicits? :dontknow: Where is Smiles when you need him?

Hi,

I just want you all to know it is terrible news,if in fact true,that Pattaya's bars are losing any trade, or failing to attract good looking guys because of Russians, drunkard or lazy proprietors, rip off pricing,deterioration in economies or weaker world currencies. :evil4: :evil4:

I am deeply sorry and think a charity should be set up especially for these unfortunate victims of these troubled times,starting here and organising various fundraising events to support the facelifts,costumes, food,drink, flights home to see their loved ones,habits,healthcare and hospices for the elderly bar owners. :laughing3: :laughing3:

Now,who would like to be chairman? :dontknow: :dontknow:

? There is usually no shortage of applicants amongst Pattaya's finest upstanding gay community! :notworthy: :notworthy:

Kquill. I do hope you remember that there are more than just ENGLISH people on this board and therefore the words that you are using are not understood by everyone. Maybe you or someone can assist me and others with understanding what your posts really mean?

Hi,

I just want you all to know it is terrible news,if in fact true,that Pattaya's bars are losing any trade, or failing to attract good looking guys because of Russians, drunkard or lazy proprietors, rip off pricing,deterioration in economies or weaker world currencies. :evil4: :evil4:

I am deeply sorry and think a charity should be set up especially for these unfortunate victims of these troubled times,starting here and organising various fundraising events to support the facelifts,costumes, food,drink, flights home to see their loved ones,habits,healthcare and hospices for the elderly bar owners. :laughing3: :laughing3:

Now,who would like to be chairman? :dontknow: :dontknow:

? There is usually no shortage of applicants amongst Pattaya's finest upstanding gay community! :notworthy: :notworthy:

:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

[quote="justme"]Kquill. I do hope you remember that there are more than just ENGLISH people on this board and therefore the words that you are using are not understood by everyone. Maybe you or someone can assist me and others with understanding what your posts really mean?[/quote

Is this the boards answer to a Jewish lobby or a comedy of fools? A Jew who can't turn a profit even in the flesh trade? Could it be the "drunkard lazy proprietor syndrome" ? Methinks he protests too much, no profit, hobby :rolling:

"Just me, little old obsequious non profiteering me" helpful tip, get an English dictionary you lazy drunkard!

Hope that "client" was kosher? :drunken:

[Beachlover]

Hey everyone!!! Get a load of this crap from Undaunted, I mean Happyboy, I mean Manfucker and a few other names......

Aint that a pisser!! :sign5:
Shit, I'm gonna have to send a message to my mother cause she always told me that I was a New York Jew!! I coulda sworn I grew up in Long Island!!
:sign5: :sign5: :sign5: :sign5: :
:happy7: This kills me... :rolling:

PS Happy days in Cairo! :occasion9: :occasion9: :occasion9:

Beachbum you amuse far too easily,or is English also your second language :tard:

Hey Beachlover...... do you see how both Cedric and Happyboy (Undaunted, Manfucker, blonde a hole with sunglasses) are attacking you and others but have NO comment on all this other shit they have posted and been shown to be nothing but idiots by me??
See?? Post something liabelous and incorrect and be proven wrong and ignore it and get somebody else.
:sign5:

Hey Beachlover...... do you see how both Cedric and Happyboy (Undaunted, Manfucker, blonde a hole with sunglasses) are attacking you and others but have NO comment on all this other shit they have posted and been shown to be nothing but idiots by me??
See?? Post something liabelous and incorrect and be proven wrong and ignore it and get somebody else.
:sign5:

Unkie,' Happyboy' or Undaunted as he is really known only returns to post on this forum to create as many problems as he can before the mods catch up with him. His favorites are myself and Beachlover but as always he can flame as much as he wants it's of no concern to me or I should think to Beachlover!

:bot:

Seems Jinks has been at it already! One less of yours to read at least. Is beachy still smarting from being dumped, we dont miss him over there at all. :dontknow:

[Beachlover]

Hey Beachlover...... do you see how both Cedric and Happyboy (Undaunted, Manfucker, blonde a hole with sunglasses) are attacking you and others but have NO comment on all this other shit they have posted and been shown to be nothing but idiots by me??
Yep, you're right there, Unkie!

Dopey creeps to the bone, the both of them. Happyboy/Undaunted's just venting his frustration from never finding enough manly masculine man boy prostitutes to fuck and be sucked off by... The loser has no other purpose in life.

Yup, I see. And Cedric is trying to catch up to him saying I am from Cairo and hoping that my client was Kosher. Seems he will join Undaunted rather than see all his stupid mistakes and apologize. :sign3:

Cedric is obviously a bigoted anti-semite with little to know brain. :laughing2:

Stop playing the victim all the time "Just Me" its not flattering. Next you're going to start telling us how much of your zero profit you donate to charity.

Of course we all hope that Egypt remains Israels only rather fragile ally in the region but without America as its master anymore well Im afraid no one can be certain. :occasion9:

ps Manu beat Manchester city, there's a thing I think, my driver just told me beeming widly, wasn't it expected or something or other, oh well... :occasion9:

Rain mist cold and rain its like the African highlands here today.
I expect to see a wet silver back crashing across the road any minute. Strange how smells sights etc can create instant memories of early childhood.

Next you're going to start telling us how much of your zero profit you donate to charity..

Ah, there you go again running your ignorant mouth.
may I suggest you contact both Baan Jing Jai and inquire about that 10s of thousands in baht worth of clothes and food I have bought them. The numerous pig roasts. (it is an orphanage here in Pattaya but you probably dont know that) The thousands of pounds of rice I have donated to them and of course cash.
If that aint suitable for your ass try calling Pattaya Gay Festival that works with many charities along with Dr Philip who does free aids work and ask about the last 5 or so years and my contributing over 250,000 baht a YEAR.
Now, may I ask what you have done?? :tongue3:


Of course we all hope that Egypt remains Israels only rather fragile ally in the region but without America as its master anymore well Im afraid no one can be certain. :occasion9: ..

Ok, so you are a Jew hater also. Thats ok as there are many people that are ignorant that are also. I hope Undaunted, happyboy sees that as he is Jewish also and cant stand Jew haters but then again he is/was your closet ally.

You really are pathetic. Open your mouth and shove your leg in. :sign5: :sign3:
I do hope there is a point where you give up. Not even Happyboy Undaunted is helping you anymore! :sign5:

On a seperate note.......
I ask everyone to look at the front forum page where the different posts are made in and for GAY THAILAND. I did not look at the others.
Try to count just how many threads have been opened up by Cedric and then look at the other side and count how many threads dear Cederic was the last one to post something on each thread. Interesting isnt it? :nud:

Next you're going to start telling us how much of your zero profit you donate to charity..



On a seperate note.......
I ask everyone to look at the front forum page where the different posts are made in and for GAY THAILAND. I did not look at the others.
Try to count just how many threads have been opened up by Cedric and then look at the other side and count how many threads dear Cederic was the last one to post something on each thread. Interesting isnt it? :nud:


My darling good natured, people loving barmen.........You need look any further than this site for strange posting behavior? Beachy seldom if ever has anything to say but like a dog must piss and spot his territory in as many places as he can right here.

On a separate note........
Did you ever think if you spent less time on the forums and more time watching your business you might get ahead? But then again after a short sampling of your personality I suppose it's best for you to keep as far away from your bar as
possible!

Unkie,' Happyboy' or Undaunted as he is really known only returns to post on this forum to create as many problems as he can before the mods catch up with him. His favorites are myself and Beachlover but as always he can flame as much as he wants it's of no concern to me or I should think to Beachlover![/quote)

Comboot!. I don't mean to burst your bubble....but do I know you?

[Beachlover]

Happboy/Undaunted/Manfucker... You actually have no idea who Combat/Sanook is do you?

You might've ID'd Cat and a couple of others but you've got no clue at all about Combat/Sanook and that's about the only reason he's able to send your sh*t right back at you without worrying about social/personal consequences of dealing with a nightmare low-life f*ckstick like you in real life as Gaybutton does. Where as pretty much everyone regular here knows who you are and will recognise you on sight... and everyday, more and more people around you are learning about how much of a creepy, moronic, low-life loser you are.

I don't know if you realise it but you're actually surrounded by people who hate and look down on you but are just too pussy (or perhaps, discretely smart for their own sake) to do anything about it directly.

Happboy/Undaunted/Manfucker... You actually have no idea who Combat/Sanook is do you?

You might've ID'd Cat and a couple of others but you've got no clue at all about Combat/Sanook and that's about the only reason he's able to send your sh*t right back at you without worrying about social/personal consequences of dealing with a nightmare low-life f*ckstick like you in real life as Gaybutton does. Where as pretty much everyone regular here knows who you are and will recognise you on sight... and everyday, more and more people around you are learning about how much of a creepy, moronic, low-life loser you are.

I don't know if you realise it but you're actually surrounded by people who hate and look down on you but are just too pussy (or perhaps, discretely smart for their own sake) to do anything about it directly.


Beachy 2 days ago you lost whatever credibility you had left, now why not go away like a good boy! :hello2:

But then again after a short sampling of your personality I suppose it's best for you to keep as far away from your bar as possible!

Oh my God! Where did you think of that one? That is soooo funny! Yeah I guess if ya got nothing left to throw, well thats I guess the best you can do, as if you sample customers walking around, the general consensus is that Happy Place is one hell of a bar. Great drinks, great shows and packed to capacity almost every night, and I do sit out front nightly and welcome the customers but you wouldnt know that cause you cant get in. :sign5: Actually, rumour has it that you cant afford to get in!

Ya know this is getting ridiculous, really, you are not worth the toilet paper you wipe your ass with. I am not going to respond to your dribble and your Jew hating friend Cedric, who is probably riding around his living room in his plastic toy Mercedes with his doll son named Lawrence, counting their stocks and bonds in Apple (but actually apple juice.) They probably are both wearing diapers but the question remains, who is pushing who? :sign5: :sign5: :sign5:

But then again after a short sampling of your personality I suppose it's best for you to keep as far away from your bar as possible!

Oh my God! Where did you think of that one? That is soooo funny! Yeah I guess if ya got nothing left to throw, well thats I guess the best you can do, as if you sample customers walking around, the general consensus is that Happy Place is one hell of a bar. Great drinks, great shows and packed to capacity almost every night, and I do sit out front nightly and welcome the customers but you wouldnt know that cause you cant get in. :sign5: Actually, rumour has it that you cant afford to get in!

Ya know this is getting ridiculous, really, you are not worth the toilet paper you wipe your ass with. I am not going to respond to your dribble and your Jew hating friend Cedric, who is probably riding around his living room in his plastic toy Mercedes with his doll son named Lawrence, counting their stocks and bonds in Apple (but actually apple juice.) They probably are both wearing diapers but the question remains, who is pushing who? :sign5: :sign5: :sign5:


Hi,

Sticks and stones may break your bones,but chains and whips excite me! :glasses7:

[Beachlover]

really, you [Happyboy/Undaunted/Manfucker] are not worth the toilet paper you wipe your ass with.
Hey Unkie, you know Manfucker's going need to pop an extra Xanax pill to get over this one... :hello1:

[Diec]

Hey beachbore, you should be banned from this forum too!! LOL...no, I'm serious, ban you! LOL...how many forums have you been banned from?? LOL!!

? :tongue3:


Of course we all hope that Egypt remains Israels only rather fragile ally in the region but without America as its master anymore well Im afraid no one can be certain. :occasion9: ..

Ok, so you are a Jew hater also.
:rolling:

When you've stopped abusing your ancestors or your own superstitions maybe you can explain the above. It makes no sense at all you dribbling lunatic.

What have I done charity wise ? Its none of your business. I dont need to try and prove Im generous. My lot dont have the same reputation.

If I were you I would just be yourself and forget what anyone thinks about you. Overcompensation usually makes it worse [wink]

Sick, deluded, living in a fantasy world. I am sorry for you.
Last post on this thread. :salute:

Yea we dont all have an opt out clause all of the time, some of us dont have one any of the time.

Maybe time you stood up on your own two feet and took responsibility for yourself instead of blaming the the world. :laughing3:

Ooops I meant :thebirdman:

[Beachlover]

Cedric... shut up. You're a flipping big moron of a troll. God only knows why Jinks isn't deleting you.

[the1]

flipping big moron

Beachlover/Combat/Sanook, come on now...........calling people f*cksticks is one thing, but you really shouldn't use NASTY words like the above, someone could get really upset!

:bot: :occasion9:
Sick, deluded, living in a fantasy world. I am sorry for you.
Last post on this thread. :salute:


Promise? :occasion9:

[Beachlover]

flipping big moron
Beachlover/Combat/Sanook, come on now...........calling people f*cksticks is one thing, but you really shouldn't use NASTY words like the above, someone could get really upset!
Come on, Billy... I've settled on affectionately calling you a big lardy degenerate now. Stop wasting time here and focus on taking the piss at GBT instead. What happened to Ishkibibble? That was going to be one of your crowning achievements...

[the1]

I've settled on affectionately calling you a big lardy degenerate now

Yes, but that's a little bit unfair considering you have never seen me. You have had a few offers for a face to face web-cam session but for some reason you refuse.....What has a young, smart, handsome, wealthy, know it all guy got to hide?

I've settled on affectionately calling you a big lardy degenerate now

Yes, but that's a little bit unfair considering you have never seen me. You have had a few offers for a face to face web-Lcam session but for some reason you refuse.....What has a young, smart, handsome, wealthy, know it all guy got to hide?


That's because it was always bullshit! And now shall we say Champagne Chalies' cat is out of the bag! :occasion9:

[Beachlover]

Yes, but that's a little bit unfair considering you have never seen me. You have had a few offers for a face to face web-cam session but for some reason you refuse.....What has a young, smart, handsome, wealthy, know it all guy got to hide?
But I have seen what you look like, BadBoyBilly. You're a big lardy degenerate with a toothy grin wearing a filthy grey Singha t-shirt. And I've no wish to compromise my privacy.


And now shall we say...
Manfucker/Undaunted lusts after masculine manly man boys but he's just a big pudgy stocky ball of fat himself. Even your cheeks are pudgy.

Yes, but that's a little bit unfair considering you have never seen me. You have had a few offers for a face to face web-cam session but for some reason you refuse.....What has a young, smart, handsome, wealthy, know it all guy got to hide?
But I have seen what you look like, BadBoyBilly. You're a big lardy degenerate with a toothy grin wearing a filthy grey Singha t-shirt. And I've no wish to compromise my privacy.


And now shall we say...
Manfucker/Undaunted lusts after masculine manly man boys but he's just a big pudgy stocky ball of fat himself. Even your cheeks are pudgy.


At least now that we've gotten to this point hold on to some self respect you are making a fool of yourself!

[the1]

But I have seen what you look like

You are telling tales AGAIN beach...

OK, in this fictional life of yours, where have you seen me before?

[Diec]

Beachbore does have a lovely fictional life doesn't he?

[Surfcrest]

Where else in the world can one find such an array of restaurants offering great food from almost every country in the world prepared by "semi retired" chefs who cook for the love of cooking - and all within a few minutes from each other?
I don't know about "semi-retired" chefs, but lots of other places have an as good or better range of restaurants and eateries... Bangkok for starters.


Please tell me which restaurants or eateries in Bangkok are good, which places you have eaten at and liked!
I'll be in Bangkok tomorrow and and staying for a week, so the more suggestions the better :)

You say Bangkok, for starters, has as good or better range of restaurants and eateries and yet when I call you on that you offer up Scoozi Pizza? Are you serious? I'm starting to wonder if you've ever been to Bangkok now.
Is there any substance to your nearly 4000 posts?

[witchhunt]

Hey beachbore, you should be banned from this forum too!! LOL...no, I'm serious, ban you! LOL...how many forums have you been banned from?? LOL!!

He is banned at gayguttonthai. Maybe banned but if not unwelcome at gaythailand.

His posts are getting edited now at bahtstop. They have tightened the rules which will make it easier to remove him there as well, if he keeps on with his abusive posts.

[Surfcrest]

Please tell me which restaurants or eateries in Bangkok are good, which places you have eaten at and liked!
I'll be in Bangkok tomorrow and and staying for a week, so the more suggestions the better :)
Funnily enough, food and dining aren't really a high priority for me in Bangkok. I enjoy eating at a lot of street food stalls in Bangkok.

Scoozi Pizza Restaurant does terrific Italian food/pizzas.

One trip, a Thai boy I dated took me to a heap of great restaurants and eateries all over Bangkok (he really knew where to go) but I didn't think to actually remember any of them


I took a group of friends (not my seedy Pattaya friends) to Chandrphen Restaurant on Rama IV the other night for a fabulous mix of Chinese / Thai food. The place was packed, for obvious reasons.

Like you Beachlover, I too enjoy eating at a lot of street food stalls. The funny thing about the human body is that we need to eat at least a few times a day.....and so it's likely that we'd remember at least some of the places we've been.
Great to know this Thai boy took you to a heap of great restaurants and eateries all over Bangkok. Unless he was unemployed, I can only gather you had to find somewhere to eat on your own.

It's too bad you and Cedric had to cross swords here. I would have thought the two of you would have hit it off in real life (if there is such a thing in either of your worlds).

Well if pricey is ok, I like the Shangri-la buffet and its vast array of wonderful selections at a bit around 1,300 and the Shangri la has some wonderful restaraunts such as the Shang Palace for Chinese food and Peking and Hong Kong duck makes my mouth water!! Thier Thai restaurant is called Salathip and I have only eaten thier once but was incredible. Many other rastaurants and things to do. I enjoy staying there and I have been lucky to do so for the last 12 years. It is like my home in Bangkok on the river.
And there is a very small restaurant right down the street walking towards the main road, and it is rumoured to be owned by the chef or ex chef of the Dusit Resorts. Unbelievable and not expensive.
And finally, about two or three doors from him is the best place I have found to make suits, casual shirts etc. The clothes are top quality and I mean top. Not this crap so many others try to put out cheap. And they fit absolutely correct. Its called Boss Clothes or Tailors or something like that. Definately BOSS.
Well I am sorry but thats all the info I can provide on Bangkok as I just dont go out so much. I stay at the Shangri la and at night I golooking around Soi Twilight which has really gone to the dogs, so I dont go to Bangkok too much anymore.

[Beachlover]

where have you seen me before?
BadBoyBilly... Lonely posted a shot of you and Monty here remember?

Page 3 of this thread, second post from top: gay-thailand-f9/montyiam-t20137-30.html (http://www.sawatdee-gay-thailand.com/forum/gay-thailand-f9/montyiam-t20137-30.html)

Christ, you're ugly. :happy7:


His posts are getting edited now at bahtstop.
One post got edited with an explanation.

[the1]

BadBoyBilly... Lonely posted a shot of you and Monty here remember?

Well well well, you certainly are making things up as you go along, mind you, you are good at that!

I will ask for the 3rd time............DO YOU WANT TO CAM 2 CAM ?

Don't be shy hunny bunny

kisss

[Surfcrest]

Well if pricey is ok, I like the Shangri-la buffet and its vast array of wonderful selections at a bit around 1,300 and the Shangri la has some wonderful restaraunts such as the Shang Palace for Chinese food and Peking and Hong Kong duck makes my mouth water!! Thier Thai restaurant is called Salathip and I have only eaten thier once but was incredible. Many other rastaurants and things to do. I enjoy staying there and I have been lucky to do so for the last 12 years. It is like my home in Bangkok on the river.
And there is a very small restaurant right down the street walking towards the main road, and it is rumoured to be owned by the chef or ex chef of the Dusit Resorts. Unbelievable and not expensive.
And finally, about two or three doors from him is the best place I have found to make suits, casual shirts etc. The clothes are top quality and I mean top. Not this crap so many others try to put out cheap. And they fit absolutely correct. Its called Boss Clothes or Tailors or something like that. Definately BOSS.


Great suggestions unkiebuck, think I'll head down to the river tomorrow to check them out. I don't mind expensive but the only thing I try to avoid is places that require you to dress up. The city was like a steam bath today and so I'd probably melt in anything more than a pair of shorts with this kind of humidity.

I've been happy getting shirts made at Stylo on Sukumvit. Their tailor is quite good and I've been satisfied going back there year after year.

I'm looking forward to getting back to Pattaya on Friday......where I know I won't have to spend so much time traveling around to enjoy all the pleasures this country has to offer. See you at the Happy Place this weekend!

I would more than welcome you however please note that if you are showing up for the 10:30 show, many nights we are packed to capacity so get there early.

Also, the Shangri la is a resort and does not require dressing up. Shorts and casual shirt are fine. They used to require long pants for dinner but I guess too many people made a fuss and they stopped that. ENJOY!

Also, the Shangri la is a resort. ENJOY!

What defines a resort? The other thing I am completely confused about are clothes. What is sports wear, active wear , and the clothes used by people really doing sport, in America.
In relation to couture ie not wearable, designer anything ie not off the peg, smart-casual, casual and proper sport clothes as in football shorts...... in the UK.

What defines a resort? The other thing I am completely confused about are clothes. What is sports wear, active wear , and the clothes used by people really doing sport, in America.
In relation to couture ie not wearable, designer anything ie not off the peg, smart-casual, casual and proper sport clothes as in football shorts...... in the UK.
My goodness Cedric you are technical.
A resort is a place that has many venues within its property and is self contained. Rooms, suites, restaurants, spas, pools, massage, many stores and outlets, business center, function rooms etc.
Casual dining is long pants and collar shirt. Shorts being allowed is nice looking shorts and a T shirt.

A resort is a place that has many venues within its property and is self contained. Rooms, suites, restaurants, spas, pools, massage, many stores and outlets, business center, function rooms etc.
Casual dining is long pants and collar shirt. Shorts being allowed is nice looking shorts and a T shirt.'

Isn't any hotel that? I stopped off at a few "resorts" in Mexico and Florida I was rather shocked at the standard, is resort "cheap hotel catering for masses of tourists", ie capacity over quality. Would one wear "sports wear" or active wear? Obviously at the nude "resort" nothing.

This confusion comes in because I heard Michael Kors snigger at couture and continue on to embraces the all American "sports" wear concept, also what he thinks he does best. I didnt want to insult by asking but it cetainly left me confused. Who would wear "sports" wear to a lovely luncheon or to the office?

Sports wear in English is a track suit and leggings if youre retro, or shorts T and running shoes. To Kors its formal designer wear?????? Or something or other?

Not going for it anymore, Cedric. You cannot be this naieve. Bye

[Beachlover]

Not going for it anymore, Cedric. You cannot be this naieve. Bye
Spot on!

Not going for it anymore, Cedric. You cannot be this naieve. Bye

Good decision.

Why all the negativity about Pattaya to the point of making it personal? Surely most of you have been there? Is there anything quite like it in the world?

Why all the negativity about Pattaya to the point of making it personal? Surely most of you have been there? Is there anything quite like it in the world?

It needs more Fem Boys there just aren't enough about.

Why all the negativity about Pattaya to the point of making it personal? Surely most of you have been there? Is there anything quite like it in the world?

It needs more Fem Boys there just aren't enough about.


That might dissapoint you, just look a bit harder, I have no problem finding them when I'm there, the more the merrier.

Why all the negativity about Pattaya to the point of making it personal? Surely most of you have been there? Is there anything quite like it in the world?

It needs more Fem Boys there just aren't enough about.

You're absolutely correct!

And what's more they seem to have stopped carrying those minature handbags they used to swing or pop over one shoulder as they minced around Sunee.

Why does everything have to change? <sigh>

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