Andrew Drummond Gets a Hard-On

I think I've got this right:

The Guy in ADs article committed no offences in Thailand. However it was discovered that he had convictions in the UK and for this he was deported.
Andrew Drummond hails this as a victory against "perverts" and thrown his metaphorical hat in the air. Fair enough.
AD then invites anybody to send him names of people and he will investigate them to see if they fall into the same category as the subject of the article.
No evidence of any kind is required to inform on people and send their details to this self-righteous, self-appointed Witchfinder General - any "suspicion" will be more than enough he assures us, for AD to set his "contacts" on to them.

Well, I'm not sure I approve of that, but at least it's good to know we can sleep safely at night knowing that AD will protect us from people who are doing nothing wrong. The kind of people that AD will save us from having to take a .38 to, as he says himself.


But on the other hand, imagine if somebody was running a boy prostitution racket within a bar, kept some very dodgy company indeed, and even acquired a criminal record in Thailand - there's would be absolutely no way that Andrew Drummond would step down from his moral high ground to defend you, is there? Especially since every time you solicited an "off" fee at your "bar" you were probably aiding and abetting an illegal act. A purely hypothetical situation of course, because AD would never get involved with people like that, would he?

I'm quite sure he will appear here to explain the apparent double standards, which of course are perfectly acceptable in British "journalism" .

[thonglor55]

Is there something wrong with being self righteous?

[Aunty]

Well finally, it looks like someone is taking out the trash. And a good thing too.

Almost all countries prohibit immigration or tourist visits by foreign nationals who fail the 'good character' test, i.e., those convicted of criminal offences that carry lengthy terms in jail. Why should Thailand be any different? No convicted paedophile, drug-dealer, fraudster, violent thug etc., would be allowed into the UK, the USA, Australia, Canada, New Zealand etc., and neither should they be allowed into Thailand. And if they are found there, they should be booted out.

[Beachlover]

Hear, hear, Auntie!

And I have a few names I will be sending to Mr. Drummond.

lol... what...so will LMTU be sending us reports of mouthwatering orgasmic steaks, happy hour pints and gorgeous weather from Blackpool now? Think of the drugs he'll have to take to make the UK feel as heavenly as Pattaya for him.

I wish you were in the Italian government lol
The legal system doesn't really allow to send someone back to their country of origin if they committed a crime in another country where they would go through a trial (fair or not) and spend their time in a local jail - unless there are specific agreements between countries.

I wish Italy would do some agreements with other countries in order to send back all the foreigner criminals after trial and sentence. In that case we'd save loads of money, we'd be sure they'd actually spend the whole time in jail and not get out after a year as it happens here and we'd have no need to build new jails as they would be more than half empty once all the eastern europeans, middle eastern and africans are sent back.

Besides, we shouldn't rely on Immigration officers to refuse access to countries for criminals.. we should expect our countries not to issue passports or to seize them for good and throw the fuckers to rot in some skanky jail.. Of course we can't do that because all the left winged sissies would soon scream HUMAN RIGHTSSSSSSSSSS

So in the end, victims of rape, child abuse or homicide have less human rights than paedophiles, rapists and killers. Welcome to Europe.


Well finally, it looks like someone is taking out the trash. And a good thing too.

Almost all countries prohibit immigration or tourist visits by foreign nationals who fail the 'good character' test, i.e., those convicted of criminal offences that carry lengthy terms in jail. Why should Thailand be any different? No convicted paedophile, drug-dealer, fraudster, violent thug etc., would be allowed into the UK, the USA, Australia, Canada, New Zealand etc., and neither should they be allowed into Thailand. And if they are found there, they should be booted out.

[giggsy]

[quote="TotalNewbie"]I wish you were in the Italian government lol
The legal system doesn't really allow to send someone back to their country of origin if they committed a crime in another country where they would go through a trial (fair or not) and spend their time in a local jail - unless there are specific agreements between countries.
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[Beachlover]

I wish Italy would do some agreements with other countries in order to send back all the foreigner criminals after trial and sentence. In that case we'd save loads of money, we'd be sure they'd actually spend the whole time in jail and not get out after a year as it happens here and we'd have no need to build new jails as they would be more than half empty once all the eastern europeans, middle eastern and africans are sent back.

That's a ridiculous suggestion. How does sending a criminal back to their home country to serve their sentence ensure the sentence is actually served? By sending them abroad, you're basically losing control of what happens to them... how the hell do you know Nigeria will jail the criminal you sent back to them for the full duration of the sentence? What if they don't agree with the sentence handed out?

Many countries differ in their laws, values, harshness of punishment and tolerance.

If they've done a crime in your nation, you need to carry out the sentence and THEN send them home.

With this kind of thing it's not about money. It's about ensuring the sentence is carried out.


Besides, we shouldn't rely on Immigration officers to refuse access to countries for criminals.. we should expect our countries not to issue passports or to seize them for good and throw the fuckers to rot in some skanky jail.. Of course we can't do that because all the left winged sissies would soon scream HUMAN RIGHTSSSSSSSSSS

So in the end, victims of rape, child abuse or homicide have less human rights than paedophiles, rapists and killers. Welcome to Europe.

What?! So you expect every country around the world to withdraw and refuse to issue passports to anyone who's ever had a criminal conviction?

Criminals have rights too you know? Once someone's served their sentence, they're free to go as long as they don't pose a significant threat to the public.

You talk about preventing, I was talking about someone committing a crime say IN Thailand and being sent back to where they are from to serve the sentence in jail (if that's how you say it in English).

At the moment it is not allowed by international law unless the govts find a special agreement ad-hoc.


The legal system doesn't really allow to send someone back to their country of origin if they committed a crime in another country
Of course it does. Thai law allows the government to prevent anyone it deems undesirable from entering -- just like the laws of every country everywhere else in the world.

Prevention is better, don't allow them to get out of the country in the first place. I didn't say they shouldn't do it, I said it is best to keep them from expatriating.


Besides, we shouldn't rely on Immigration officers to refuse access to countries for criminals

Why not? Controlling who gets in and who doesn't is their job


.. we should expect our countries not to issue passports or to seize them for good and throw the fuckers to rot in some skanky jail.


We are not talking people who are on the lam. We are talking of people [i]who have been convicted of crimes and already served their sentences.
I was.

Awww Beachlover relax a bit! Did I suggest this should apply to every country in the world? I specifically mentioned Italy and maybe I did that because I actually know the differences in legal systems and how sentences are enforced and because I live here? Come take a look if you want.

Besides, are you not aware of monetary bilateral agreements between Governments that aim to get a country to do a certain thing in favour of which they will receive money?
Lybia has been getting a lot of money from Italy lately and SURPRISE SURPRISE Lybia is blocking those clandestine ships that used to arrive in the south of Italy every single day.


That's a ridiculous suggestion. How does sending a criminal back to their home country to serve their sentence ensure the sentence is actually served? By sending them abroad, you're basically losing control of what happens to them... how the hell do you know Nigeria will jail the criminal you sent back to them for the full duration of the sentence? What if they don't agree with the sentence handed out?

Many countries differ in their laws, values, harshness of punishment and tolerance.

If they've done a crime in your nation, you need to carry out the sentence and THEN send them home.

With this kind of thing it's not about money. It's about ensuring the sentence is carried out.


Besides, we shouldn't rely on Immigration officers to refuse access to countries for criminals.. we should expect our countries not to issue passports or to seize them for good and throw the fuckers to rot in some skanky jail.. Of course we can't do that because all the left winged sissies would soon scream HUMAN RIGHTSSSSSSSSSS

So in the end, victims of rape, child abuse or homicide have less human rights than paedophiles, rapists and killers. Welcome to Europe.


What?! So you expect every country around the world to withdraw and refuse to issue passports to anyone who's ever had a criminal conviction? Criminals have rights too you know? Once someone's served their sentence, they're free to go as long as they don't pose a significant threat to the public.

Certain crimes, most definitely. It's not that I think they shouldn't just travel. I also think they should never set foot outside of jail, EVER AGAIN.
I'm not saying someone who stole a dildo from your closet. I'm talking rapists, paedophiles and killers. To me there should be nothing but LIFE SENTENCE for these criminals.

I see the dim-witted villagers are out with the flaming torches and pitchforks again.

My advice would to be to take a little sedative followed by a long hard look in the mirror.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - be careful what you wish for - many (most?) of your relatives, friends, workmates, and neighbours at home would put a 40/50/60/70yo man who goes into gogo bars and picks up 18yo boys into the same category as those which some of the more hysterical posters here would want to see lynched, shot, hung, castrated, jailed for life etc.

In the relatively short time that I have contributed to this forum it has struck me that there are many petty jealousies and vendettas between the expat contributors in particular - and LMTU had already indicated in this thread that there a lots of names he alone will be only too happy to supply for investigation.

No good will come of this, none at all - it will result in you all fighting like rats in a barrel while the newspapers stand back and rub their grubby little hands in glee, writing about how the names of "hundreds" of suspected "perverts" have been put forward.

Time will tell.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Do you have anything to hide Scottish? If you don't I don't see why you wouldn't expect killers rapists and paedophiles to receive a life sentence?

Do you always go around insulting people whose opinion differs from yours?

My advice would be to reduce your consumption of benzodiazepines. We already got a taste of the side effects and it ain't charming.



I see the dim-witted villagers are out with the flaming torches and pitchforks again.

My advice would to be to take a little sedative followed by a long hard look in the mirror.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - be careful what you wish for - many (most?) of your relatives, friends, workmates, and neighbours at home would put a 40/50/60/70yo man who goes into gogo bars and picks up 18yo boys into the same category as those which some of the more hysterical posters here would want to see lynched, shot, hung, castrated, jailed for life etc.

In the relatively short time that I have contributed to this forum it has struck me that there are many petty jealousies and vendettas between the expat contributors in particular - and LMTU had already indicated in this thread that there a lots of names he alone will be only too happy to supply for investigation.

No good will come of this, none at all - it will result in you all fighting like rats in a barrel while the newspapers stand back and rub their grubby little hands in glee, writing about how the names of "hundreds" of suspected "perverts" have been put forward.

Time will tell.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Do you have anything to hide Scottish? If you don't I don't see why you wouldn't expect killers rapists and paedophiles to receive a life sentence?

Ah yes, the old "you must have something to hide" routine, the Nazis made good use of that one and it's right up there with "Any right thinking person would agree with me"- can you not think of something a bit more original? Very disappointing. Must try harder. 3/10

To the substantive point - there are indeed killers, rapists and paedophiles whose crimes warrant a "life" sentence (I presume you mean "whole of life" as that is what ranters like you normally mean) - equally there are others whose crimes don't warrant that degree of punishment and I guess you'll be foaming at the mouth now and disagreeing vehemently with that statement because you seem like one of those simplistic people who see everything in black and white.

Do you always go around insulting people whose opinion differs from yours?

Yes, Fish Face.

My advice would be to reduce your consumption of benzodiazepines. We already got a taste of the side effects and it ain't charming.

I'm not here to charm you, don't flatter yourself dear. But I'm impressed by and defer to your inside knowlege of anti-psychotic drugs. For my own part I have never had the need for such medication, am completely sane and even have a letter from the Institution to say so


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[Brad the Impala]

Lybia has been getting a lot of money from Italy lately and SURPRISE SURPRISE Lybia is blocking those clandestine ships that used to arrive in the south of Italy every single day.


Is Lybia somewhere close to Labia? At least you are explaining how a country could elect Berlusconi. Familiar with a few labia himself I understand, although he sounds a bit of a pinko liberal compared to you.

Lybia has been getting a lot of money from Italy lately and SURPRISE SURPRISE Lybia is blocking those clandestine ships that used to arrive in the south of Italy every single day.


Is Lybia somewhere close to Labia? At least you are explaining how a country could elect Berlusconi. Familiar with a few labia himself I understand, although he sounds a bit of a pinko liberal compared to you.


As does Atilla The Hun


:occasion9:

It's consequential thinking Scottish. I have nothing to hide hence I have nothing to fear.

And as I said in another post, I had a uncle brutally killed, 2 of his killers will spend less than 10 years in jail and will likely be out in 5 years thanks to the stupid italian laws and the third guy has disappeared in the middle of Rumania.

You will be able to get back to me on what is a fair and unfair punishment when you will have someone from your family killed - although I would never wish you to feel that - it certainly seems like you would need that as a reality check and to stop being the wanker you are.

PS: I have deep knowledge of benzodiazepines and anti-depressants because I'm a psychologist. And you are right, benzodiazepines are useless for histrionic personality disorder. You could improve with a good counsellor though :hello2:




Do you have anything to hide Scottish? If you don't I don't see why you wouldn't expect killers rapists and paedophiles to receive a life sentence?

Ah yes, the old "you must have something to hide" routine, the Nazis made good use of that one and it's right up there with "Any right thinking person would agree with me"- can you not think of something a bit more original? Very disappointing. Must try harder. 3/10

To the substantive point - there are indeed killers, rapists and paedophiles whose crimes warrant a "life" sentence (I presume you mean "whole of life" as that is what ranters like you normally mean) - equally there are others whose crimes don't warrant that degree of punishment and I guess you'll be foaming at the mouth now and disagreeing vehemently with that statement because you seem like one of those simplistic people who see everything in black and white.

Do you always go around insulting people whose opinion differs from yours?

Yes, Fish Face.

My advice would be to reduce your consumption of benzodiazepines. We already got a taste of the side effects and it ain't charming.

I'm not here to charm you, don't flatter yourself dear. But I'm impressed by and defer to your inside knowlege of anti-psychotic drugs. For my own part I have never had the need for such medication, am completely sane and even have a letter from the Institution to say so


:occasion9:

he sounds a bit of a pinko liberal compared to you.

You're right. And it is very unfortunate to say the least.

[thonglor55]

I have nothing to hide hence I have nothing to fear.What is your real name?

.....(if you) have nothing to hide ....(you have) nothing to fear.

Isn't that what the Spanish Inquisition said when they came calling?


And as I said in another post, I had a uncle brutally killed, 2 of his killers will spend less than 10 years in jail and will likely be out in 5 years thanks to the stupid italian laws and the third guy has disappeared in the middle of Rumania.

Extremely sad, but what is this supposed to illustrate other than you are far too close to the situation to make a rational judgement?

.... stop being the wanker you are.

What was that you said about insulting people who disagree with you? Double standards, Double standards.

PS: I have deep knowledge of benzodiazepines and anti-depressants because I'm a psychologist....

In that case I can do no better than to quote someone very popular in Italy - "Physician, heal thyself"


:occasion9: :occasion9:

I have nothing to hide in front of a court. Can't you follow what is being discussed?



I have nothing to hide hence I have nothing to fear.What is your real name?

I have nothing to hide in front of a court. Can't you follow what is being discussed?



I have nothing to hide hence I have nothing to fear.What is your real name?

Oh, even better - so let's make really sure you have nothing to hide in front of a court. Let's not just have your real name. let's have your address and then let's go round to your place and have a snoop around, perhaps check out your latest porn downloads, your financial records, your bank statements, your credit score. Let's see what you buy at the Supermarket and what things you spend your money on. Let's look through ALL your possessions and look at EVERYTHING you own. Let's look through your internet browsing history, your images and your video clips, ALL your instant messenger contacts and the logs of ALL your chats. After all, if you have nothing to hide then SURELY you have nothing to fear whether it's in front of a court or otherwise??

:occasion9: :occasion9:

Scottish, which part of "rapists, killers and paedophiles" are you not getting?

I had already specified in reply to beachlover that I do not expect nor want life inprisonment for every single kind of crime. And I also underlined I am specifically referring to ITALY which has a ridiculous law system where you see businessmen who filed "creative" balance sheets jailed for 10 years and as I mentioned you see criminals of the above categories wandering around freely.

I never believed in death penalty but I honestly think that someone who takes the life of an innocent person or ruins a life of a person MUST pay with life sentence.
Oh, I forgot to add drug traffickers.


What was that you said about insulting people who disagree with you? Double standards, Double standards.
I never insult anyone here unless I am being insulted or I have my opinions belittled in a way that I find inappropriate and unsolicited. read your first reply.
You are very welcome to think differently from me but learn how to say it in a polite manner because we never sat at the same table sharing haggis.

You know, you're not worth the hassle. I get paid plenty euros for dealing with a nutjob like you. Again, HPD my dear, HPD.
:hello2:



Oh, even better - so let's make really sure you have nothing to hide in front of a court. Let's not just have your real name. let's have your address and then let's go round to your place and have a snoop around, perhaps check out your latest porn downloads, your financial records, your bank statements, your credit score. Let's see what you buy at the Supermarket and what things you spend your money on. Let's look through ALL your possessions and look at EVERYTHING you own. Let's look through your internet browsing history, your images and your video clips, ALL your instant messenger contacts and the logs of ALL your chats. After all, if you have nothing to hide then SURELY you have nothing to fear whether it's in front of a court or otherwise??

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Scottish, which part of "rapists, killers and paedophiles" are you not getting?

Oh I get all the parts, don't worry. It's is YOU who doesn't get it. What about the "Rapist" in circumstances where a woman consents at the time and then goes to the police the next day crying rape? What about the "Killer" who may be a woman or teenager who has been abused by a violent husband or father all their life and who suddenly snaps and kills him? What about the 18yo branded a "Paedophile" because he has a 17yo boyfriend or girlfriend?

You know I really wish I lived in your cosy little world where everything is clear-cut and black and while - life must be so simple. You allege you're a psychologist? Christ almighty I wouldn't employ somebody with your simplistic outlook as a road sweeper - I sincerely hope they don't let you loose on the public at any point. Frankly I'd have more faith in being treated by Dr Phibes.

I had already specified in reply to beachlover that I do not expect nor want life inprisonment for every single kind of crime.

Just the ones you personally find most abhorrent then. And irrespective of the circumstances. How objective of you.


And I also underlined I am specifically referring to ITALY which has a ridiculous law system where you see businessmen who filed "creative" balance sheets jailed for 10 years and as I mentioned you see criminals of the above categories wandering around freely.I never believed in death penalty but I honestly think that someone who takes the life of an innocent person or ruins a life of a person MUST pay with life sentence. Oh, I forgot to add drug traffickers.

Ok, wait up, I'm trying to keep a running total here: so thats Rapists, Killers. Paedophiles, Corrupt Businessmen, and Drug Traffickers so far. What about Jaywalkers, what's your take on them? Furthermore there can't be THAT many paedophiles walking round Italy surely - I mean the AOC is so low (14) it must be really difficult to qualify as a paedophile. Yes you're really coming from a strong position aren't you.

I never insult anyone here unless I am being insulted or I have my opinions belittled in a way that I find inappropriate and unsolicited. read your first reply.

But my first reply was not even addressed to you specifically. You jumped in with both feet and now you are rapidly sinking without trace

You are very welcome to think differently from me but learn how to say it in a polite manner because we never sat at the same table sharing haggis.

We are fussy who we share our Haggis with. Even fussier with the whisky. And as for our sheep - make your own arrangements.

.....I get paid plenty euros for dealing with a nutjob like you....

That'll be in the public sector then, where you can screw up every day and nobody bothers.

You must feel bad when the "nutjob" wipes the floor with the "Psychologist" Maybe you're used to it.

As for me, and as I said, I'd feel safer being treated by Dr Phibes.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/mfala/cinema/DrPhibes.png

[quote="scottish-guy":30u5phiu]many (most?) of your relatives, friends, workmates, and neighbours at home would put a 40/50/60/70yo man who goes into gogo bars and picks up 18yo boys into the same category as those which some of the more hysterical posters here would want to see lynched, shot, hung, castrated, jailed for life etc.The key difference being, of course, that the law puts them into different categories: one is legal, one is not. Fairly simple, I would think -- even for a Scot.[/quote:30u5phiu]
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[X] The law ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws

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[quote="scottish-guy":1k7k3mdl]many (most?) of your relatives, friends, workmates, and neighbours at home would put a 40/50/60/70yo man who goes into gogo bars and picks up 18yo boys into the same category as those which some of the more hysterical posters here would want to see lynched, shot, hung, castrated, jailed for life etc.The key difference being, of course, that the law puts them into different categories: one is legal, one is not. Fairly simple, I would think -- even for a Scot.[/quote:1k7k3mdl]

[X] Far from simple - I think you will find that in many countries in the world it is not only unacceptable but HIGHLY illegal - as is racism incidentally.[X]

:drv:

[soi_toi]

Reading his post I'd say he's desperate for something.

He's chosen a hot topic and jumped on the bandwagon. I wonder who's ass he's trying to nuzzle up to?

[b][color=#FF0000]Oh I get all the parts, don't worry. It's is YOU who doesn't get it. What about the "Rapist" in circumstances where a woman consents at the time and then goes to the police the next day crying rape? What about the "Killer" who may be a woman or teenager who has been abused by a violent husband or father all their life and who suddenly snaps and kills him? What about the 18yo branded a "Paedophile" because he has a 17yo boyfriend or girlfriend?

It is obvious you have no knowlegde of Justice and Procedure. It is also obvious you need to rant on and on without making any sense just to be the center of attention and no matter how wrong you are you will always try to twist conversation in another direction so you can keep babbling.

I wonder how you got away with over 700 messages considering you always seem to be off topic with your stupid personal remarks who bring no contribution to any discussion.

You're a bitter old and lonely weirdo and outside your little computer you're nothing and no one. You live thanks to these flames, you feel you are SOMEONE for being abusive. Fun fun fun.

[Marsilius]

...it's a morel issue.

Looks like this thread is mushrooming out of control...

[b][color=#FF0000]Oh I get all the parts, don't worry. It's is YOU who doesn't get it. What about the "Rapist" in circumstances where a woman consents at the time and then goes to the police the next day crying rape? What about the "Killer" who may be a woman or teenager who has been abused by a violent husband or father all their life and who suddenly snaps and kills him? What about the 18yo branded a "Paedophile" because he has a 17yo boyfriend or girlfriend?

It is obvious you have no knowlegde of Justice and Procedure. It is also obvious you need to rant on and on without making any sense just to be the center of attention and no matter how wrong you are you will always try to twist conversation in another direction so you can keep babbling.

I wonder how you got away with over 700 messages considering you always seem to be off topic with your stupid personal remarks who bring no contribution to any discussion.

You're a bitter old and lonely weirdo and outside your little computer you're nothing and no one. You live thanks to these flames, you feel you are SOMEONE for being abusive. Fun fun fun.


Do you feel better for getting that off your chest? Was it therapeutic for you? Did u cum?

All the examples (miscarriages of justice?) I cite have actually occurred within the legal system and have resulted in criminal conviction for the offences mentioned. So I do not see how you can claim that I know nothing of legal process - of course maybe you're a Judge as well as a Psychologist and a professional Victim of Crime, I don't know, but I'm sure you'll tell us.

You didn't mention it because you were too busy foaming at the mouth, but they do represent a very small minority of cases involving these offences - and yet it's how exceptions and minorities are treated which is a good measure of any society.

YOU on the other hand have said nothing which justifies your blind prejudice and unblinkered thinking. You have made ridiculous statements which you have been unable to back up. You proclaim that you have nothing to hide, nothing to fear but when asked, in that case, by another Member to tell us your real name you almost soiled yourself.

One other thing - you call yourself a Newbie? I am far from convinced about that. You have only been here for 6 weeks but during that time you seem to have read every post I have ever made because you can comment on the content of each one. There are therefore 2 possiblilities - if you seriously sat recently and trawled through every post that I have made your are more lonely, sad and more of a weirdo that I will ever be! Or, much more likely, the fact is that you are not any kind of a newbie - total or otherwise - that's the truth isn't it.

The GOOD news is that since I have wiped the floor with you in every post you have made on this thread, since you cant take that, and since I am no longer interested in what you have to say I will not be responding to you further on this topic. Bye!

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What about the "Rapist" in circumstances where a woman consents at the time and then goes to the police the next day crying rape? What about the "Killer" who may be a woman or teenager who has been abused by a violent husband or father all their life and who suddenly snaps and kills him? What about the 18yo branded a "Paedophile" because he has a 17yo boyfriend or girlfriend?

This is where you prove you have no knowledge of the justice system:
1) a woman goes to the Police next day: no evidence no incrimination - I suppose you don't know if a woman is consenting there isn't any damages and bruises inside the vagina which is the first thing that is looked for in a case of rape.
2) it is called self-defense - look it up
3) 16 is the age of consent, there is an age gap that is accepted by law. In Italy it is 5 years

Whether lawyers haven't been able to argue cases correctly or judges have wrongfully jailed people it's another story. If you think one can't expect life sentence for a killer because 1% is wrongfully jailed than you're even more stupid than I originally thought.

Besides you keep proving you only read what you want and what you may need for your next pointless attack. And it's become more than boring now.


[b][color=#FF0000]Oh I get all the parts, don't worry. It's is YOU who doesn't get it. What about the "Rapist" in circumstances where a woman consents at the time and then goes to the police the next day crying rape? What about the "Killer" who may be a woman or teenager who has been abused by a violent husband or father all their life and who suddenly snaps and kills him? What about the 18yo branded a "Paedophile" because he has a 17yo boyfriend or girlfriend?

Prejudice is expecting a killer to rot in prison? You're ridiculous really and being uselessly polemical isn't proving any point.

The nickname that I picked for this forum refers to the certain aspects that are mostly discussed here - when you aren't around to go off topic, that is.
My naive questions prove I really know nothing (or now, very little) about them. I doubt being a Newbie about Thai sex industry doesn't entitle me to opinions about other things and facts in life and 6 weeks are more than enough to notice that most of your posts are off topic. It's called statistics I don't need to look your previous posts up - you're not really interesting - to figure out the odds of you actually bringing useful contribution to threads like other members do.

I did say my name unlike you, most my posts are signed as LEO (short for Leonardo). I have already planned to meet a couple people off here who aren't freaks like you. I'd barely share a bottle of water with you if we were stuck in the desert let alone telling you - of all people - my private details.


and since I am no longer interested in what you have to say I will not be responding to you further on this topic. Bye!
Allelujah. But while you're at it, just don't reply at anything I say. Here or anywhere else. :hello2:

The clear age of consent in Thailand (18) is not lower than that of any other country in the world that I can think of -- though it is lower in many places.

Ergo, if a person has been convicted of sexually abusing a minor in his home country, it stands to reason that the same act would be illegal in Thailand.

You obviously need to think a bit harder:
How about these:
Chad 21
Niger 21
Madagascar 21

Not the most notable places for tourism to Thailand admittedly, but you did say you couldn't think of ANY country.

Plus you need to think outside the box a little bit.
Yes a lot of countries NOW have AOCs of 16/18 but these are fairly recent.
From the UK for example there will be people with such convictions dating back to the 1980s when the AOC still stood at 21.
Are we seriously saying that an adult having nookies with another adult (as we would undoubtedly regard him or her now) of 20 ought now to be deported from Thailand as a paedophile?
Some people on SGT will say YES because frankly they are right-wing reactionaries (a significant section of society unfortunately)who see everying in black&white, but personally I think it's a little more complicated than that.


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Twat....I said I could not THINK of any, not that there WEREN'T any.

..And all I said was you ought to think a bit harder - why so agressive?

When the Thai authorities deport someone from Chad, Niger, or Madagascar for having a conviction of sex wit a 20 year old, then you can come crying to me.

I wouldn't come near you with a 10ft bargepole so you need not expect any imminent arrival from me.

Until then, your bending over backwards to support the right of access of foreign pedophiles to Thai children remains of much interest.

Well that's right up there with the "You must have something to hide" response from earlier. I'm actually not supporting anybody's rights, what I'm arguing AGAINST is barely thought through ideas and opinions, and knee-jerk reactions from the likes of yourself. As for the veiled threats, I've heard it all before from your various identities and it worries me about as much as my next bowel movement.

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[Aunty]

Matters no doubt well traversed both before and during the trial and any subsequent appeals afterwards. That is what the whole purpose of the trial is for after all, correct? To establish the facts of the case? Or are you suggesting that the accusedтАЩs barrister raises no arguments in the defense of their client and asks no questions of the police, or makes no effort to establish a reasonable doubt? What silly nonsense some of you hysterical old queensтАЩ prattle on and on about. ItтАЩs like listening to Chicken Little screaming that the sky is falling because a bird shit on him. Still, thatтАЩs the lunatic fringe for you. Give them a turd and they will tell you it smells of the sweetest roses.

This topic is about ThailandтАЩs right to prevent the entry of, or to remove from its territory, foreigners with criminal records, as every other sovereign state has the right to do, and does do. Nothing more and nothing less. The suggestions that Thailand should somehow move very carefully to make sure its removal orders are fair because of a theoretical possibility of an earlier miscarriage of justice, or because the whole thing was a terrible misunderstanding and falls into a grey area, or because the law was different to ThailandтАЩs, are ludicrous.

If anyone has a problem with a conviction or a law or its effects, take it up with your own damn country. DonтАЩt expect Thailand to be the dumping ground of your angst.

When elderly people get to such an advanced stage of senilty that they cannot even follow the development of a thread, it makes the case for legalised euthanasia.


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[Lunchtime O'Booze]

Jesus wept

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

I think I've got this right:

The Guy in ADs article committed no offences in Thailand. However it was discovered that he had convictions in the UK and for this he was deported.
Andrew Drummond hails this as a victory against "perverts" and thrown his metaphorical hat in the air. Fair enough.
AD then invites anybody to send him names of people and he will investigate them to see if they fall into the same category as the subject of the article.
No evidence of any kind is required to inform on people and send their details to this self-righteous, self-appointed Witchfinder General - any "suspicion" will be more than enough he assures us, for AD to set his "contacts" on to them.

Well, I'm not sure I approve of that, but at least it's good to know we can sleep safely at night knowing that AD will protect us from people who are doing nothing wrong. The kind of people that AD will save us from having to take a .38 to, as he says himself.


But on the other hand, imagine if somebody was running a boy prostitution racket within a bar, kept some very dodgy company indeed, and even acquired a criminal record in Thailand - there's would be absolutely no way that Andrew Drummond would step down from his moral high ground to defend you, is there? Especially since every time you solicited an "off" fee at your "bar" you were probably aiding and abetting an illegal act. A purely hypothetical situation of course, because AD would never get involved with people like that, would he?

I'm quite sure he will appear here to explain the apparent double standards, which of course are perfectly acceptable in British "journalism" .
well put hard fucking hat.

this slagbag is a creep who married a young Thai lady so by his own gutter rag standards is yet another appalling pervy Brit taking advantage of cheap sex with Thai ladies.

This hack is one of the sleazbags who gives Thailand a bad name penning sensationalist garbage for about the 3rd lowest tabloid in the UK.

I see the usual bunch of holier than thou cunts on here are supporting him. If you ain't a nun shut the fuck up you hypocrits.

what sort of gasbag on here pontificates nonsense and then has the hide to post Jesus Loves You ?? Who needs the fucking CIA telling Thailand what to do and adjust it's moral compass when you have prim fuckwit queens doing their job for them.?

Jesus wept is more like it.
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[Lunchtime O'Booze]

I bloody well drink. So there.

[Aunty]

Got your plane tickets booked? I hope so. As they say, don't let the door slam your sorry arse on the way out now. Ya hear! Silly old fool.

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

Got your plane tickets booked? I hope so. As they say, don't let the door slam your sorry arse on the way out now. Ya hear! Silly old fool.
I love you and want to have your babies.

[Aunty]

I love you and want to have your babies.

Hmmmmm........:idea: Are you Mrs Peel?

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