cancle holiday

[paperboy]

will be phoneing air france on monday, to see what other routes they do from paris. Thailand does not look like the place i really want to go right now. I want to see what options i have, its 5 weeks to go, but can not see much of a change there.
the spanish embassy like all others are adviseing not to travel.
So rather leaving it to the last minute, like to know what i can do.
is anyone else thinking of not going?

"Wonder of all wonders"

It's certainly worth checking on your options.

If you were staying in Bangkok then I might do the same...if you were going elsewhere then it might not matter. I'd be surprised if the government allowed the airport to be shut down.

[allieb]

will be phoneing air france on monday, to see what other routes they do from paris. Thailand does not look like the place i really want to go right now. I want to see what options i have, its 5 weeks to go, but can not see much of a change there.
the spanish embassy like all others are adviseing not to travel.
So rather leaving it to the last minute, like to know what i can do.
is anyone else thinking of not going?

For goodness sake just go. If Bangkok looks a bit troublesome when you arrive move on down to Pattaya. Where's your sense of adventure. It's more dangerouis to cruise in a Madrid park at night.

[ceejay]

I am due to fly exactly a week from today. I was planning on spending 4 nights in Bangkok, then going on to Yasothon for the rocket festival. If nothing changes (and I don't expect them to get better over the next 2 days) then I'll cancel the booking for the first 4 days, and re-book somewhere well away from the centre of the city for the first four nights. Of course, anything can change over the next week - if I end up cancelling altogether, then I do. If it comes to that, then my problem will be a small one compared to what the Thais will be suffering by then.

[joe552]

I'm due to arrive in just over 4 weeks and have no intention of cancelling. I hadn't planned to spend any time in Bangkok anyway. From what I've read it seems as if tentative signs of peace talks are emerging, so hopefully a peaceful resolution will be found. The situation would have to deteriorate significantly for me to change my plans at this stage.

The very limited and locally only around the royally owned Lumphini Park in Bangkok taking place trouble is definitely no a big affair. All this it rather much overvalued by local and international press тАУ fully according the opinions of so called red shirts. According to some friend, all the brothels like Mona Lisa and around Soi Cowboy are working extra shifts, serving the extra amount of customers.

Just take it as it is in Thailand: Something unusual and therefore interesting to do. It is just a few against the unloved uniform carriers. On one side maybe 8.000 so called protesters, having a big party, confronting rather helpless and not really efficiently acting forces.

The death toll on Thailand road during Sonkran (Thai New Year) was very low this year, but still close to 400 with about 5 000 in need of medical assistance. What happened at the тАЬ├╝o├╢otical frontтАЭ was less than 10 % compared with Sonkran road traffic accident results.

Many more casualties are to be recorded with in much troubled south тАУ which is still a pretty good and for foreigners safe to be travelled region of Thailand. During the past years I never had any slighted of problems there.

Nobody does officially count the amount of тАЬaccording to Thai regimeтАЭ never officially naturalised minorities like Hmong, Karen and many others.

In Pattaya, Hua Hin, Chiang Mai, Phuket or at any other destination, all this nonsense taking place in Bangkok CBD is not worth to be mentioned. There is no extra police or army action to be seen and all business is as usual.

Cancelling a trip to Thailand for security concern just because of this would end at staying home in bed alone at any time; crossing your accommodation is very dangerous and it is more as soon as you leave your house. For this and actual statistics ask you insurance agent.

If you want trouble, just look at the news what happened around the Paris suburbs or in UK, Germany or other places where roads are damaged, cars set on fire or shops are raided streets to battled at against police by so called autonomic groups just for annual traditional тАЬFirst of MayтАЭ celebrationsтАЭ. I never saw there like in Thailand. I also never heard about that someone was being pushed from a platform in font of an approaching train or similar violenceтАЩs.

Thailand might be strange somehow and sometime but still is of the many countries I know well one of the safest.

[goji]

GO AND ENJOY IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You only live once. How many foreign tourists have you heard of getting injured in the trouble?
Must be about zero.

My security advice: If you see any trouble, just turn around and walk the other way.

Remember, you are going to die anyway. Hopefully there will be quite a few years to go, but you must enjoy yourself in the meantime.

GO AND ENJOY IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You only live once. How many foreign tourists have you heard of getting injured in the trouble?
Must be about zero.

My security advice: If you see any trouble, just turn around and walk the other way.

Remember, you are going to die anyway. Hopefully there will be quite a few years to go, but you must enjoy yourself in the meantime.

True. ItтАЩs more like being hit by an falling coconut rather than getting involved in political hassle. Just do not war a pink, yellow or red shirt at any time. ThatтАЩs it.

:sign3:

[paperboy]

thankyou all for all your kind and informative replys.
I think your right i should just go.
im not due to leave until may 26, so plenty might happen.
once again thankyou all

paperboy

im so looking foward to go to corner bar.
will let you know what i decide to do
with my travel plans :happy7:

thankyou all for all your kind and informative replys.
I think your right i should just go.
im not due to leave until may 26, so plenty might happen.
once again thankyou all

paperboy

im so looking foward to go to corner bar.
will let you know what i decide to do
with my travel plans :happy7:


Be brave: Make up your mind and stick to it. They will love to welcome you at Corner Bar.

It is most likely that by end of May most of the hassle in Bangkok is long over and all forgotten about. The number of Mr T. тАЬsupportersтАЭ is already shrinking daily. Many of them are low wages farm helps being paid the minimum wage of daily less than 200 TBT + food and drinks, travelling costs and red shirts for being there. For them there is nothing else to do. On most Isaan farms the rice plantings havenтАЩt started yet. As soon as they get work at home again, most will move back, alike many others who went home already.

This is Thailand. I love it.


:notworthy:

[Beachlover]

The latest attacks are really f*cked... what kind of sick mind would fire M79 grenades into a calm, crowded public space from a distance? Apparently it killed one and injured 80+.

will be phoneing air france on monday, to see what other routes they do from paris. Thailand does not look like the place i really want to go right now. I want to see what options i have, its 5 weeks to go, but can not see much of a change there.
the spanish embassy like all others are adviseing not to travel.
So rather leaving it to the last minute, like to know what i can do.
is anyone else thinking of not going?

Still go paperboy.
I was in Thailand during the last time everything got a bit nasty and no problems for me at all. (admittedly my Thai partner makes sure this dumb white boy doesnt stray into areas I shouldnt be)
Just keep your self informed as to where the protesting is taking place and then make sure you stay clear. That simple.
I am back in Thailand in 2 weeks time for a few months and I am sure as hell not going to cancel any of my plans.

[anakot]

will be phoneing air france on monday, to see what other routes they do from paris. Thailand does not look like the place i really want to go right now. I want to see what options i have, its 5 weeks to go, but can not see much of a change there.
the spanish embassy like all others are adviseing not to travel.
So rather leaving it to the last minute, like to know what i can do.
is anyone else thinking of not going?

Hi Paperboy
Absolutely the right decision. I am a regular visitor every (couple of months). I am certainly pleased I am not there at the moment. The area where the grenades went off on Thurs night are pretty much unavoidable it you are visiting the bars in Soi 4 = Telephone, Sphinx, Balconey etc

The Hong Kong regime has a black travel ban on at the moment so there are no tour groups. While I always travel alone the Honkinese are a fearless lot and their black ban should not be taken lightly.

I'll be back as soon as the multicoloured, red, yellow thugs/fine citizens etc go back into their respective holes. Don't hold your breath though...

Find somewhere else if you are pressed for time.

Viagra, alcohol, motorbikes, and sexercise

A deathly mixture of Viagra tablets, loads of alcohol, over-sexercise and reckless motorbike driving has become killer number one for tourists visiting Thailand with every year hundreds of tourists not surviving their Thailand vacation.

The death toll among tourist to Thailand every year amounts to more than 2-times the number of deaths from the Bali bomb attacks and this just from their own recklessness and stupidity, says Steven Martin, co-author of the Lonely Planet guide book to Thailand.

Back home in their own country, people would never dream or dare to take a couple of Viagra pills, wash them down with loads of alcohol and then race out on a rented motorbike without a proper driving license, no insurance, no helmet and only dressed in shorts and a sleeveless "Rock Hard" T-shirt. It's the Thailand holiday mind-frame that makes their brain come to a stop, Steven further added.

Of the more than 9.7 million tourists who visited Thailand during 2002, British citizens hold the record for the highest number of those deaths at a number of 148, followed by 137 tourists from the United States, 120 from Germany and 73 from Japan.

In 2003, the ten most important foreign embassies in Thailand representing less than half of the foreign tourists visiting Thailand reported 595 fatalities resulting in death.

While the causes of those deaths vary, Japanese visiting Thailand have the highest suicide rate with 13 of its citizens killing themselves in 2003 while taking vacation in Thailand, motorbike accidents, alcohol and the (in)famous Viagra impotency drug are the biggest killers among European, Australian and American tourists to Thailand.

Steven said that the Thai authorities and the travel industry in Thailand has worked very hard over the past years to make the Thai Kingdom as safe as possible for visitors, but that they were powerless against the sudden "Loose of Common Sense" of many tourists to Thailand.

Each country is different so even if you think you know how to ride a motorbike in your own country, you might not be used to the unpredictable directions taken by Baht-Bus-Taxis, un-respected one-way codes, crossing stray dogs at each curve and not in the least to mention the Thai special style of driving.

While traffic accidents involving rented motorbikes are one of the biggest killers in Thailand, Viagra tablets usually mixed with loads of alcohol and physical overload from visiting hostess-bars, is another huge killer in Thailand, according to some foreign embassy officials.

Despite Thailand's government efforts to crush the kingdom's reputation as Asia's red light capital, Thailand continues to attract millions of sex tourists each year, many of them elderly single men.

Its that combination of old age, alcohol, the Thai smile, the hot and humid Thai climate they are not used to, and overdoses of free available Viagra tablets and other stimulating medication plus an above-average physical exhaustion with the other sex, that kills them, said Karsten Tietz, head-consul at the German embassy in Thailand. Those people want to maximize their fun to the limit while on a Thailand vacation, drink more, sexercise more and tend to loose all their sense of cautiousness.

Travel industry experts say Thailand's disproportionately high toll of tourist death is the result of its attracting a huge volume of tourists while also offering high-risk activities for the heart, typically found in those well-trodden places of nightlife pleasure.

Foreign Diplomats said that thousands of tourists who are injured each year in motorbike accidents also risk huge financial problems due to their careless behaviour. Drunk driving or driving without a proper license means that you are breaking the Thai law and your insurance will not cover any of your injuries, nor pay for damage or injuries caused to third parties, said Warren Macilwain from the Australian embassy.

A young man recently crashed in the far north of Thailand with serious injuries and no insurance and his family could not afford the medivac (medical evacuation) him back to Australia, Warren said. Most people forget such accidents in a foreign country can very fast run into tens of thousands of dollars.

Those dealing directly with the victims and their families said they continued to be shocked by the avoidable nature of many of the deaths, if the victim had only used common sense. Every case is different and you never get used to telling a mother her child has died while driving a bike under influence, or that your brother has died in a short-time hotel room from a heart attack, such things are awful to tell, and usually very traumatic for the family, said Ursula Simon from the German embassy.

Holidaymakers should not fall into the trap of thinking that the meaning of "Different Rules" in Thailand, means there are no rules at all. Tourists should take the same safety precautions as they would take at home and even be more vigilant than in their own country, Ursula Simon further added.

Thai mortician Hirun Phurdnampetch, who has spent more than two decades dealing with the remains of dead tourists from Europe and the United States, has a similar message: When a foreigner dies it is usually on a motorbike, riding without skill or protective clothing and usually in the most popular places such as Pattaya, Phuket and Koh Samui, with heart attacks during special in-bedroom activities the second biggest cause of death, Hirun Phurdnampetch said.

If tourists would just use their brain, not drink so much, be sensible and wear a helmet if they must ride a motorbike, it would mean a lot less work for me and my department, he added.

Source: Sorry, I forgot, but maybe The Nation

Oh, yes, before I forget: The massive number of broken hearts is still on the rise - without any proper cure in sight.

This is Thailand. I love it!

:bis:

[Beachlover]

LOL... are you serious? Lots of people have heart attacks during sex? Man... must be bad for their partner.

This is Thailand. I love it!

A motorbike with a Thai driving is speculative enough. I've ordered a helmet of the proper size and I'm going to bring it with me on my next visit.

[TrongpaiExpat]

TTom:
Wherever you cut and pasted that from without any reference as usual for you, put it back. Why are you posting (cut and pasting) in bold?


motorbike accidents, alcohol and the (in)famous Viagra impotency drug are the biggest killers among European, Australian and American tourists to Thailand.

What nonsense. Viagra is not the big killer but alcohol and then driving might be.

[allieb]

will be phoneing air france on monday, to see what other routes they do from paris. Thailand does not look like the place i really want to go right now. I want to see what options i have, its 5 weeks to go, but can not see much of a change there.
the spanish embassy like all others are adviseing not to travel.
So rather leaving it to the last minute, like to know what i can do.
is anyone else thinking of not going?

Hi Paperboy
Absolutely the right decision. I am a regular visitor every (couple of months). I am certainly pleased I am not there at the moment. The area where the grenades went off on Thurs night are pretty much unavoidable it you are visiting the bars in Soi 4 = Telephone, Sphinx, Balconey etc

The Hong Kong regime has a black travel ban on at the moment so there are no tour groups. While I always travel alone the Honkinese are a fearless lot and their black ban should not be taken lightly.

I'll be back as soon as the multicoloured, red, yellow thugs/fine citizens etc go back into their respective holes. Don't hold your breath though...

Find somewhere else if you are pressed for time.

Don't listen to him Paperboy he sounds like a spinless queen. You go and have a nice time. And Bangkok without the Hong Kong crowd will be heaven. Lets hope the ban on their travel is permanent

[thrillbill]

...I live/work in Thailand and regular gay visitors need to remember that Babylon is still opened (that area isn't near Silom) and there are the gay areas of Pattaya, Changmai, and Phuket.

I read in the paper today that someone near me was killed by a falling branch from an oak tree while out jogging. I agree with the previous comment that said you're going to die anyway, so enjoy what you have while you have it. I'm not due out to Thailand again for a few months yet, but if I was due to go now, I wouldn't cancel. It might all be a bit inconvenient, but this is an internal affair amongst Thai's and nothing to do with us, so just avoid the 0.00000001% of Thailand that trouble is likely to occur, and enjoy the other 99.999999% of it.

The only thing that would worry me, personally, is that regardless of the issues involved or who's doing what, I find things like this strangely fascinating to observe, and if I was out there now, I might not be able to help myself from going to take a butchers to see what's going on. Which is the only reason I hope it's all blown over by the time I go out there again.

[goji]

The area where the grenades went off on Thurs night are pretty much unavoidable it you are visiting the bars in Soi 4 = Telephone, Sphinx, Balconey etc



The area where the grenades went off is unavoidable if you visit the area where the grenades went off.


This is not a problem. If there are ongoing protests in Silom, either avoid the crowds or go to Pattaya or Phuket. Walking the other way from a crowd of red shirts is not difficult.

[krobbie]

Paperboy,
I will arrive in BKK in less than 2 weeks (May 7). Bkk is unavoidable for me as my lover works there. We usually situated in North Sathorn near Thaksin BTS. He is taking time off from his reatuarant while I am there.

We had intended to go only to Kanchanaburi for 5 nights but perhaps we may take off else where as well. I usually have 10 dyas in the capital, 5 either side of a small trip elsewhere but just maybe we will trip to other less volatile areas.

I am looking around to see what options we have. I am not encumbered with wealth so the pickings are a little slimmer and won't involve dashing off to Vietnam or Laos for the period. Perhaps Hua Hin, which I enjoy greatly. I will wait and see what happens this coming week. It seems like the next few days are going to be quite a struggle on both sides.

Cheers
Krobbie

[lonelywombat]

361 people killed on the roads in Thailand during the Songkram holiday That would seem to be a more worrying figure about Thailand rather than one death due to misadventure.

In 4 weeks you have to make a decision about whether to stay in Bangkok in June or stay in Pattaya.
Most of this will probably over by then. Wait to make your decision until things become clearer. You can fly to Phuket or Koh Samui direct from Pattaya if BKK is for you, still a problem.

LOL... are you serious? Lots of people have heart attacks during sex? Man... must be bad for their partner.Of cors people have heart attacks during sex. You never felt youre heart pump when you came?

[bucknaway]

How do I see it?

If I love you or care for you than do not go to Thailand right now. It is too dangerous and anything could happen in an instant.

If I don't know you and only recognize you as a stranger on a message board who is going to Thailand for a sexual fix than go and enjoy. What do I care? I don't know you or feel a bond with you. If you get hurt or even die it will only mean precious little to me in the real world.

Could you imagine the advice one would read on a message board while on the sinking Titanic? I imagine it would be something similar to.... Get off the ship? Why? Starboard is dry and they are playing a nice tune with a live band there, the pool and the deck chairs are empty so you can swim and lounge till your hearts content!

So I say that if you go. Please take every precaution to be safe and try to have a backup plan for getting out and back home safely.

[Bob]

How do I see it?

If I love you or care for you than do not go to Thailand right now. It is too dangerous and anything could happen in an instant.


Other than it probably would be wise not to hang around the redshirt areas of Bangkok (a very small part of that city), your "don't go" advice, Buck, is pure alarmist nonsense. It's no more dangerous in most of Bangkok and all of Chiangmai, Pattaya, Phuket, etc., than it was 2 weeks or 2 years ago.

[bucknaway]

Yep, alarmist in a forign kingdom where a people who don't speak my language are up in arms, throwing bombs, killing one another where marshal law has been declared after several coups have been carried out, where a airport was shut down and armed forces were used to try to free the airport from at least a week-long siege. All this going on while there with a culture that only wants visitors to see their smile and not what is going on behind the smile.

Alarmist?

No.

Being safe rather than sorry.

I like to holiday in Bangkok but I don't want to die there or suffer in pain because I want to drink in a pub around the corner from a war.

[allieb]

Buck

There are tons of nutters on the loose in The USA who kill inocent people that haven't even wandered into the wrong areas. Staying in the USA as you do is far more dangerous than a months vacation in Thailand.

The USA is one big ongoing war. In 2008.the last complete report available, 16,272 people were murdered 89,000 were raped 441,855 were violently robbed 834,885 were assulted and 2,222,196 homes were burgled. Tell me that Thailand isn't safe

[bucknaway]

And if any of those crazy folks made them call out the army and were throwing bombs, shooting guns and folks were dying, my advice would be to stay away. But if the boys and bars mean that much to you and your willing to risk your life on a holiday than good for you... Go for it... Be sure to tell us all about it.

I am only saying that if it were a loved one that was thinking of going to Thailand I would not want them to go. But it is perfectly alright for strangers and message board posters to go there. :notworthy:

[allieb]

And if any of those crazy folks made them call out the army and were throwing bombs, shooting guns and folks were dying, my advice would be to stay away. But if the boys and bars mean that much to you and your willing to risk your life on a holiday than good for you... Go for it... Be sure to tell us all about it.

I am only saying that if it were a loved one that was thinking of going to Thailand I would not want them to go. But it is perfectly alright for strangers and message board posters to go there. :notworthy:

You prefer that your loved ones stay at home and become one of the statistics in my previous post?

[anakot]

And if any of those crazy folks made them call out the army and were throwing bombs, shooting guns and folks were dying, my advice would be to stay away. But if the boys and bars mean that much to you and your willing to risk your life on a holiday than good for you... Go for it... Be sure to tell us all about it.

I am only saying that if it were a loved one that was thinking of going to Thailand I would not want them to go. But it is perfectly alright for strangers and message board posters to go there. :notworthy:

Couldn't agree more Bucknaway with your first para. (that's 'paragraph' for MCCQ*)

With regard to the second para. there are many posters on this board that I would recommend visit Thailand this week. Trust me, deep down you know who you are... Take my advice and lunch at the Dusit Thani, shop at Robinsons, go for nice evening walks along Silom/Rama IV Rds and be the first to catch the skytrain when they open S/D BTS if they haven't already. Have a nice trip.



* MMCCQ - Moronic Compulsive Correcting Queens

[paperboy]

hello everyone
thanks for all the advise, i just looked at flight from pattaya to Koh Samui.
seemed very expensive, about 320 euros for 2 people, flying from pattaya to Koh Samui then too bangkok.
Im just looking at my options, if i decide to go to thailand, and stay out of bangkok.
Ive never been before and i get the feeling that 3 weeks in pattaya might be too long.
Is there other options ?????????
thankyou so much everyone
paperboy

[cdnmatt]

Is there other options ?????????

Nope, sorry. No other options available. The only two cities in Thailand where foreigners are allowed in Bangkok and Pattaya. We've been barred from everywhere else.

Is there other options ?????????

Nope, sorry. No other options available. The only two cities in Thailand where foreigners are allowed in Bangkok and Pattaya. We've been barred from everywhere else.

And foreigners are only allowed on streets during daytime from 9 тАУ 11 am and again 1 to 5 pm otherwise be fined 2000 TBT or alternatively send for a14 days deportation at your choice either to a labour camp on a Lopburi monkey farm or to a Sakon Nakhon rice paddy.

This is Thailand. I love it.

Ive never been before and i get the feeling that 3 weeks in pattaya might be too long.
Is there other options ?????????

Go to Chiang Mai and explore the north part of the country for a week. You can also venture into Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia from there. That is what I'll be doing on my next trip.

hello everyone
thanks for all the advise, i just looked at flight from pattaya to Koh Samui.
seemed very expensive, about 320 euros for 2 people, flying from pattaya to Koh Samui then too bangkok.
Im just looking at my options, if i decide to go to thailand, and stay out of bangkok.
Ive never been before and i get the feeling that 3 weeks in pattaya might be too long.
Is there other options ?????????
thankyou so much everyone
paperboy

Both Kho Samui and Kho Chang have privatly airports, servicing preliminarily boutique carrier Bangkok Air. Therefore costs ar up.

You can fly from Bangkok with Airasia or Nok air pretty flexible and also cheap to almost any part of Thailand. Booking via Internet is easy. Pattaya to Bangkok have special bus services and it takes only between 90 to 120 min; a Taxi are not much faster.

Both Kho Samui and Kho Chang have privatly airports, servicing preliminarily boutique carrier Bangkok Air. Therefore costs ar up.



There is no airport on Koh Chang.

The airport you are referring to is on the mainland, across from Koh Chang.

Both Kho Samui and Kho Chang have privatly airports, servicing preliminarily boutique carrier Bangkok Air. Therefore costs ar up.



There is no airport on Koh Chang.

The airport you are referring to is on the mainland, across from Koh Chang.

Correct! airport for Kho Chang is in Trat.

[paperboy]

hi everyone
the spanish and U.K. goverments are now not recomending any travel to any parts of thialand.
They are saying do not travel.
i was thinkling of going to thailand BUT not going to bangkok, BUT now that has changed
so so sad, looks like i have to cancle the whole trip now.
will find out what air france has to say and has to offer me an other destination

paperboy

[thrillbill]

Yep, alarmist in a forign kingdom where a people who don't speak my language are up in arms, throwing bombs, killing one another where marshal law has been declared after several coups have been carried out, where a airport was shut down and armed forces were used to try to free the airport from at least a week-long siege. All this going on while there with a culture that only wants visitors to see their smile and not what is going on behind the smile.

Alarmist?

No.

Being safe rather than sorry.

I like to holiday in Bangkok but I don't want to die there or suffer in pain because I want to drink in a pub around the corner from a war.
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It is such a no-brainer. Right now (though it is basically safe at the moment) stay away from Silom...stay away from Bangkok if one is that "afraid" of the big, bad Reds. If you have to go to Bangkok, first go to other parts of the city to hang out...(there are other "gay areas" in BKK, including the Babylon area). Or take a bus/taxi down to Pattaya. If you are from the States, it is more dangerous in one of the big cities than in Bangkok. At least in BKK YOU KNOW where the trouble could begin at. In the States, you could run into a nut-head with a gun anywhere. Oh wait, I am canceling my trip to Chicago because of the nightly shootings there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[joe552]

The Irish Government has also issued an advisory against travel to Thailand (not just BKK). I'm due to go in 4 weeks and not intending to change my plans. However, it's worth remembering that travel insurance can be invalidated if you suffer an injury (for example) while such an advisory is in place. I've been looking forward to this trip too long for me to cancel now but it's important to understand the risks.

I had to cancel a planned trip to Brazil last year because I was made redundant, so it would take an all out civil war to make me cancel this holiday.

I sincerely hope that things can be solved peacefully in the very near future.

The Irish Government has also issued an advisory against travel to Thailand (not just BKK). I'm due to go in 4 weeks and not intending to change my plans. However, it's worth remembering that travel insurance can be invalidated if you suffer an injury (for example) while such an advisory is in place. I've been looking forward to this trip too long for me to cancel now but it's important to understand the risks.

I had to cancel a planned trip to Brazil last year because I was made redundant, so it would take an all out civil war to make me cancel this holiday.

If Thailand is too scarey for you why not try a sightseeing trip around West Belfast or South Armagh?

[joe552]

If Thailand is too scarey for you why not try a sightseeing trip around West Belfast or South Armagh?

Where in my post did I suggest that I was scared to go to Thailand? I said I was determined to go, short of all out civil war.

West Belfast is less interesting than it once was, although recently South Armagh has been hotting up. Neither place have as many cute and available boys though.

[bucknaway]

Seems that things are going to get worse before they get better. Now the Red Shirts plan to fan out. So you can think that you will avoid the civil unrest but it seems that the powers that be will not be avoided.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSGE6 ... arketsNews (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSGE63Q02020100427?type=marketsNews)