free sex

[paperboy]

OK, here it goes
simple question for me, but im sure its a cat among the pigions for your lot
Im going to pattaya for holiday, im gay, im wanting to go to gay bars, looking for other gay people my age (20-30)
like i do all over the world, when on holiday
where can i go in pattaya to meet gay lads, and not money boys.
im just finding it stange that i should pay for sex (at my age)
is there gay bars like london, madrid, berlin, barca ??
thanks again, just over 6 weeks to go

paperboy

[cdnmatt]

There are bars like that in Thailand, but just not in Pattaya. You could always get lucky though, and meet someone at one of the discos, etc.

[RichLB]

You might try Gay Romeo or Camfrog. On those sites you will have no problem finding lots of guys looking for the same thing you are.

[rincondog]

Go to Sansuk sauna around 6pm. Lots of free sex.

Go to Sansuk sauna around 6pm. Lots of free sex.

kewl

[paperboy]

hello everyone

thankyou very much

[allieb]

Paperboy

Nobody is to young to pay for sex in Pattaya. It's the name of the game. By the way if your'e looking for Europaen free gay sex It's on your doorstep. Sitges or Benidorm. When I was a youg queen I was there as often as possible.

[francois]

Free sex = April Fool

[paperboy]

im going to gran canaria for easter
mmmmm, the yumbo center
loads of good sex bars

[bao-bao]

im going to gran canaria for easter
mmmmm, the yumbo center
loads of good sex bars
I know I'm not alone in thinking this: there are so many more worthwhile reasons to travel than sex...
...but have a safe trip, anyway (and I do mean "safe"). :cheers:

I dont think age has anything to do with if you pay or not for sex. I've been travel with many younger friends who tell me they will never pay for sex and then they meet "the boy of their lifes" who happen to work in a bar, and suddenly they are "in to it".

I'm not sure about Pattaya, but in Phuket, where I have spent a lot of time, there is often younger tourists from Europe and Australia and I would say that pararell to the "pay-for-sex-scene" there is also many guys that meet and spend time together like we do in many resorts in Europe, like Sitges and Gran Canaria. In the discos in Bangkok I also think many young westerners meet other young westerners.

If you looking for thais you must remember that it's not always an advantage to be young. Many younger thais seems to prefer older westerners, 30+ at least. Suppose there is an upper limit when we are not that attractive any longer, but I'm close to 50 and still have more younger thais who wants to meet me than I have time for during my visits.

One thing I have learned about Thailand during my trips, don't plan and think to much before. Nothing is black or white there, just do what you feel is right for the moment. The line is very thin between beeing generous and actually paying for sex. If you pick up the barboy, paying a drink, off-fee and a tip or if you date the local guy from 7-11, spending a whole evening out with drinks, food, perhaps a cinema or something like that you probably ending up spending more money for the "free-sex", then for the "pay-sex".

Hope you get a nice holiday!

Im going to pattaya for holiday, im gay, im wanting to go to gay bars, looking for other gay people my age (20-30)..... etc, etc

Then why have you chosen specifically to go to Pattaya?

And why do you keep on asking the same questions, with the same innuendos?

And why does anyone bother replying seriously to you any more?

[yedo111]

Hi my advice is to stay in Bangkok , not Pattaya .

Try DJ station or some of the other places in Silom where normal gays go out to have fun . You will find both asian and farangs to have fun with......for free.

[Beachlover]

Im going to pattaya for holiday, im gay, im wanting to go to gay bars, looking for other gay people my age (20-30)..... etc, etc

Then why have you chosen specifically to go to Pattaya?

And why do you keep on asking the same questions, with the same innuendos?

And why does anyone bother replying seriously to you any more?

Because not everyone realises he is BBB/andyinoz.

Im going to pattaya for holiday, im gay, im wanting to go to gay bars, looking for other gay people my age (20-30)..... etc, etc

Then why have you chosen specifically to go to Pattaya?

And why do you keep on asking the same questions, with the same innuendos?

And why does anyone bother replying seriously to you any more?

Because not everyone realises he is BBB/andyinoz.



Beechlover the best place for you to have free sex is homealone part 3! :happy3:

Free sex = April Fool
Totally agree! :thumbleft:

[Andaman!]

Beechlover the best place for you to have free sex is homealone part 3! :happy3:


Well Equalizer you seem to be sub-equal with your meaningless derogatory posts. I've been watching this board for a while and Beachlover (you can't even spell his name) is one of the few genuinely amusing posters with the style and intellect of real man. No doubt he gets more free sex than you as a result.

[danny99]

There is plenty of what you want but much more in Bangkok than in provinces. Big problem is that most of the desirables will not be speaking English, why should they?

Learn some Thai and hang around the University bars anywhere in Thailand and you will be very popular. As for the $$ question you have to be realistic. Thailand is still 3rd world, though at the top end. $1 to you is $5 to them, just compare basic wages! Things you take for granted can be luxury class for many, unattainable!

[quote="The Equalizer":3chrdtlr]

Beechlover the best place for you to have free sex is homealone part 3! :happy3:


Well Equalizer you seem to be sub-equal with your meaningless derogatory posts. I've been watching this board for a while and Beachlover (you can't even spell his name) is one of the few genuinely amusing posters with the style and intellect of real man. No doubt he gets more free sex than you as a result.[/quote:3chrdtlr]


Until now I did not know Beachlover even had a Grandmother! :dontknow:

[Andaman!]

[quote="Andaman!":3opabaa7][quote="The Equalizer":3opabaa7]

Beechlover the best place for you to have free sex is homealone part 3! :happy3:


Well Equalizer you seem to be sub-equal with your meaningless derogatory posts. I've been watching this board for a while and Beachlover (you can't even spell his name) is one of the few genuinely amusing posters with the style and intellect of real man. No doubt he gets more free sex than you as a result.[/quote:3opabaa7]


Until now I did not know Beachlover even had a Grandmother! :dontknow:[/quote:3opabaa7]

Equalizer - - everyone had a Grandmother. Didn't they teach you about the birds and the bees :bee: :bee: etc at school.

Obviously you didn't, or you would have learned that everyone had two grandmothers.

[TrongpaiExpat]

Obviously you didn't, or you would have learned that everyone had two grandmothers.

Not inbreed families. Those families with only one branch and everyons cousins. Common in Texas I understand.

[Beachlover]

Obviously you didn't, or you would have learned that everyone had two grandmothers.

Living up your club's standards?

[Beachlover]

Obviously you didn't, or you would have learned that everyone had two grandmothers.

Not inbreed families. Those families with only one branch and everyons cousins. Common in Texas I understand.

Heh... I predict Twat will respond and say it is common where allieb lives (Muslims like to marry cousins/family members etc.).

[Beachlover]

[quote="The Equalizer":29lenvi1]

Beechlover the best place for you to have free sex is homealone part 3! :happy3:


Well Equalizer you seem to be sub-equal with your meaningless derogatory posts. I've been watching this board for a while and Beachlover (you can't even spell his name) is one of the few genuinely amusing posters with the style and intellect of real man. No doubt he gets more free sex than you as a result.[/quote:29lenvi1]

:-)

[quote="The Equalizer":14jda1k6]

Beechlover the best place for you to have free sex is homealone part 3! :happy3:


Well Equalizer you seem to be sub-equal with your meaningless derogatory posts. I've been watching this board for a while and Beachlover (you can't even spell his name) is one of the few genuinely amusing posters with the style and intellect of real man. No doubt he gets more free sex than you as a result.

:-)[/quote:14jda1k6]

Point taken! But I prefer sex with humans!

[allieb]

Obviously you didn't, or you would have learned that everyone had two grandmothers.

Not inbreed families. Those families with only one branch and everyons cousins. Common in Texas I understand.

Heh... I predict Twat will respond and say it is common where allieb lives (Muslims like to marry cousins/family members etc.).

Yes and they also bugger their brothers

[ironbark-old]

I dont think age has anything to do with if you pay or not for sex.

Thai (and Laos) boys accept money for sex for a variety of reasons. For most in Pattaya/Phuket/Patpong it is way to earn money. For students from poorer families it is a way to pay for their education. For most however it is part of their culture and sexual identity to expect some form of "payment". Economic exchange is important (tho' not exclusive) in defining male-male relationships in these countries.

A really comprehensive UNESCO study on MSM was undertaken in Laos as part of their HIV campaign and published in 2008. Called Mekong Erotics; Men loving/pleasuring/using Men in Lao PDR. by Chris Lyttleton it revealed that payment for MSM was quite common in Lao society.

While payment for sex between older and richer to younger and poorer was common it was not exclusively direct payment but included other indirect support like gifts of mobile phones, clothing or education. He also noted that unlike Cambodia and Thailand it was the practise for the (older) kateuy to pay, especially if the partner was a "full man".

It has also been my personal experience that there is a big difference between Mekong countries and China. Last year I nearly fell off my chair when I was offered money by a middle-aged Chinese businessman here in Laos to go back to his hotel with him. It had been forty years or more since that last happened to me.

I also regularly "see" a young chinese guy who works here and is half my age. He complains how the Laos/Thai always want money for sex. However, we usually go out to quite expensive restuarants when he visits me and most times he insists on paying the bill. This is consistant with the observations of another friend who regularly travells in China and when he finds someone they also insist on paying for any expenses, but not giving money. It is their way of raising their status, building "face", just as receiving money is the Thai/Laos way.

So Paperboy, don't get hung up on "paying for it". You are rarely paying just for sex, it is much more complex than that.

BTW, if you are young and you blond your hair, you could be pleasantly surprised to find just how popular you could be and end up being paid yourself.

[TrongpaiExpat]

A really comprehensive UNESCO study on MSM was undertaken in Laos as part of their HIV campaign and published in 2008. Called Mekong Erotics; Men loving/pleasuring/using Men in Lao PDR. by Chris Lyttleton it revealed that payment for MSM was quite common in Lao society.


This Chris Lyttleton seems to have gotten in a little controversy with the The Akha Heritage Foundation.

http://www.akha.org/content/sexualabuse/chrislyttleton.html

http://www.anth.mq.edu.au/staff/staff_clyttleton.html

[ironbark-old]

This Chris Lyttleton seems to have gotten in a little controversy with the The Akha Heritage Foundation.



Hmmm!!! very interesting. I was unaware of his involvement.

I was aware that one of my work colleagues at the time seemed to know a fair bit about these alleged abuses and was quite outraged. He eventually managed to get a job in the area with another NGO and he left me with the impression he was going up there on some sort of personal crusade.

The next I hear is he has been expelled from the country for allegedly offending some of the local government officials.

I did bump into him some months later and tried to get his side of the story which seemed to have something to do with naming his cat after the Laos President. The local party officials getting upset and threatening to take a contract out on him if he did not voluntarily leave the country. He left very quickly.

I have lived in this country long enough to know that you never believe everything you hear unless you see it with your own eyes.

The other thing I have learnt is that there are a lot of people, mostly living in America, that have an axe to grind and are intent on finding as much dirt as they can about the goings on in Laos. They have an almost religious zeal to "protect" their precious ethnic minority from somesort of real or perceived persecution. The incredible amount of disinformation and outright lies they make about persecution of the Hmong people is a good example. (Note I am not claiming the Hmong are not without complaint, just that the information that comes out of the US is a distortion of the reality).

I know nothing about this Akha University in the US so I will reserve my opinion, but the cynic in me is not looking at them favourably.

[Irish1972]

The subject of paying for sex comes up here every now and then.

I dunno I have mixed feelings about it. In almost every relationship I know of, both gay and straight there is one partner who earns more/pays for more than the other. Sure I know couples who both work and are both earning a good living but I would say about 80% of the couples I know one of the partners is the "bread winner". Does this make the other a prostitute? I donтАЩt think so...

My relationship with the boys of Thailand has evolved over the last 5 or 6 years that I have been visiting. On my first couple of visits it was all new and fascinating to me and I could not get enough, but as time went on I met guys that I grew to like for their company, as much, if not more than their hot body. So now when I go to Thailand yes I give money to the boys, go shopping, go out to eat and go on fun days and nights out where I pay for most if not all of our expenses. Is sex compulsory or a condition of this? No is the answer. I have also been taken out to eat and brought to clubs where I was not allowed to put my hand in my pocket, (not too often hahaha) but I have.

I have met the boys who have about 25 grandmothers who have all been sick and passed away or the room rent is due or they have to go home or whatever, and I have met some of the most genuine people I know, like any country there is a mixed bunch in Thailand and where you decide to socialise and who you decide to socialise with will determine the people you meet. I do not mean to say that if you mix in Go Go bars or Host bars that you will not meet nice genuine guys, you can and you will!

Anyway I am going off topic, the point is this, free sex is available, the same as it is in any country in the world, but you are unlikely to find it in the bars of Bangkok or PattayaтАжthat is business, and if you do find there it will likely be a relationship that is cultivated over time and not on your once a year fuck fest.