Russian boys

Hi,

I heard that there is a bar in Pattaya where you can "off" a Russian boy. Does anyone know if this is true.

If so what is the bar called and does anyone now how much they charge?

Thanks

I have been told its true, some times, but no good telling on here, because they would be raided in a second, I understand it is a Womans Club for the very well healed, where you pay 5000 baht to just get in the door and the guys are the cream of the crop, my bf tells me. :glasses7:

[Diec]

I adore Russian boys!! Please somone let us know where this is!! My future Thai husband doesn't mind as he know's I'm a player!!

[cdnmatt]

My future Thai husband doesn't mind as he know's I'm a player!!

This is something I don't really get. How can so many of you guys have a BF / husband, and be able to openly cheat on them like that? If I ever cheated on my guy, I'd probably at very least end up with a black-eye, if not being added to the statistics of people in Thailand who've had their penis cut off. Ok, maybe that's a bit exaggerated. Well, the black-eye probably isn't too far off the mark, as I could see that happening.

Really though, Thais tend to be very emotional, and take everything to heart. In general, they're very peaceful and happy people, but they don't like their emotions being fucked with. I don't know, but if I ever cheated on my guy, guaranteed I'd never hear from him again. I know him... he'd just disappear, get a new SIM card for his cell, probably cry every day for 2 - 3 months, and that would be that.

If I ever cheated, he might come back to me to give it another try, but it'd never be the same, and it'd never work. If I cheat once, it's over, and forever. There's no way he'd ever truly forgive me for cheating on him, if I did.

My future Thai husband doesn't mind as he know's I'm a player!!

This is something I don't really get. How can so many of you guys have a BF / husband, and be able to openly cheat on them like that? If I ever cheated on my guy, I'd probably at very least end up with a black-eye, if not being added to the statistics of people in Thailand who've had their penis cut off. Ok, maybe that's a bit exaggerated. Well, the black-eye probably isn't too far off the mark, as I could see that happening.

Really though, Thais tend to be very emotional, and take everything to heart. In general, they're very peaceful and happy people, but they don't like their emotions being fucked with. I don't know, but if I ever cheated on my guy, guaranteed I'd never hear from him again. I know him... he'd just disappear, get a new SIM card for his cell, probably cry every day for 2 - 3 months, and that would be that.

matt that is called true love and respect, keep it up and have a long happy relationship. It does happen, but as they say "different strokes for different folks"........Chok Dee

[joe552]

Matt, one comment from Diec doesn't mean that everyone feels the same. A lot of the guys who post are in committed relationships, and I suspect that few of us who travel to Thailand would be interested in Russian boys, otherwise we'd be going to Russia on our hols.

[catawampuscat]

The Russian boys stories have been around for years..
There have been Eastern European
women working the sois near the VC hotel in Pattaya and other Arab frequented hotels..
Big, busty, very white and often blond women from places like Uzbeckistan where there
are cheap airfares and easy visa regulations..
If you have the hots for a white boy/man, try one of the escort services ads in the gaybar
handouts or one of the websites that are for hiring men.. I think CFS might have them listed
but a quick google search will turn up some.

There was a German rent boy/man, a few years back, and I recall he was murdered or involved in a murder..
In fact, there was a skinny German manboy working out of one of the Sunee Beer bars
a year or two ago.. Be prepared to pay a lot more..
I also seem to remember a poster here with a scoop about a Russian boy massage place
opening in Jomtien but it turned out to be more of a pooper scoop... :happy7:

[Cees-Holland]

If I ever cheated, he might come back to me to give it another try, but it'd never be the same, and it'd never work. If I cheat once, it's over, and forever. There's no way he'd ever truly forgive me for cheating on him, if I did.

Everybody his own but my feeling is close to what Matt says.
I am not blind and see lots of eye candy but will never act on it, I am not willing to jeopardize the good thing I have going.
(I suddenly realize I am guilty of derailing this topic, sorry :8(

[lonelywombat]

Hi,

I heard that there is a bar in Pattaya where you can "off" a Russian boy. Does anyone know if this is true.

If so what is the bar called and does anyone now how much they charge?

Thanks


Timmy like you, the thought of a russian rent boy does appeal, but I have seen the "Russian tourists" in Pattaya and can vouch for the fact they fill out their speedos very well.

Several trips ago I went walking from the gay beach looking to see if the Royal Cliff had beach access. I had not realised how far that would be too walk but that is another story. They dont from that direction.

If you walk past Pattaya Park from the gay beach and keep on walking you will come to the beach where Russian families tend to congregate. It might only be in high season but it is a start. They stay at hotels close to that beach, so have a look around, after all there is not much else to do daytime in Pattaya.

I think we assume that if there are Russian off bars for gay or straight , they would be in the Walking St or Sunee areas. That might not be so. Anyway it could be fun looking especially if there are some hung russian boys on that beach.

Win,lose or draw, keep us informed. Happy hunting

[bing]

Good luck with the Rusians. The guys I know in St. Petersburg Russia, are all so big and lanky I was swamped by them. If you can find one who speaks English, he will love to use his language skills on you, and will appreciate any tips you can give him in pronunciation. My best helping consisted in having him say Vodka instead of Wodka. It took a full day but he was saying Vodka when I left him after breakfast. I think 6foot 4 is just a bit big for me to play with.

As cat has pointed out, the Russian/East European rumour has been going around for a longtime. I first heard it back in '86/87 time. No one could either confirm it or disclaim it, but I would go for the latter as you can bet with the way the jungles drums in Pattaya send out messages someone, be it a resident farang/bar owner or one of the then numerous barboys/girls one would have found the establishment that was offering that service.

I was under the impression that the Lubov Host Bar in Jomtien Complex was Russian owned (some months ago, a Russian responded when I asked for the exact location of the bar). Of course all the boys are 100% Thai. To hook up with visiting Russian youths, check Gay Romeo.

[Beachlover]

If I ever cheated on my guy, I'd probably at very least end up with a black-eye, if not being added to the statistics of people in Thailand who've had their penis cut off.

Man, that is some deterrent. I would be wanting an agreement that if things ever get bad, no matter how bad, the birdie gets left alone!


Really though, Thais tend to be very emotional, and take everything to heart. In general, they're very peaceful and happy people, but they don't like their emotions being fucked with. I don't know, but if I ever cheated on my guy, guaranteed I'd never hear from him again. I know him... he'd just disappear, get a new SIM card for his cell, probably cry every day for 2 - 3 months, and that would be that.

If I ever cheated, he might come back to me to give it another try, but it'd never be the same, and it'd never work. If I cheat once, it's over, and forever. There's no way he'd ever truly forgive me for cheating on him, if I did.

I think the biggest thing upfront for him would be loss of face.

Also, it's understandable if he is giving off these "don't you dare go anywhere near cheating on me" signals". He might feel quite insecure... especially with you (as opposed to some old, not so charming fellow). I mean, you're young, probably good looking, earn good money, are a nice guy... You could probably have any Thai boy you want. Where as he is just one of many Thai boys (you might not see it that way but he probably does) you could pick from... He's acutely aware of this... maybe he continually worries that any day you'll drop him. Maybe the more secure you make him feel the better the relationship will get.

[lonelywombat]

cdnmatt and who else but beachlover who cannot resist impulsively responding to every post.
Why dont you guys open your own threads instead of shanghaing other threads.

[Beachlover]

There was a German rent boy/man, a few years back, and I recall he was murdered or involved in a murder.

Oh yeah... I read about that on http://www.gayboythailand.com when the site was still up. It was in Bangkok.

This is the guy:

http://thaigay.seesaa.net/article/36098590.html

http://nationmultimedia.com/breakingnew ... d=30029381 (http://nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30029381)

http://www.teamhurricane.de/

RIP...

[Beachlover]

How did this thread go off topic.
cdnmatt and who else but beachlover who cannot resist impulsively responding to every post.
Why dont you guys open your own threads instead of shanghaing other threads.
You are both in business but cannot keep from rapid replies to everything.
Business not going well.???????????????????????????????????????????

LOL... That last post was just for you LW.


How did this thread go off topic.

Seriously... do you do this in normal social conversation as well?... I can picture you in a bar jumping up and down yelling, "Off topic! Off topic!" at the bewildered patrons... Hehehehe.

[cdnmatt]

cdnmatt and who else but beachlover who cannot resist impulsively responding to every post.
Why dont you guys open your own threads instead of shanghaing other threads.

Up to me! :-)

Why don't you go start your own message board? Then you can get all trigger-happy with deleting posts when anyone goes slightly off-topic during a conversation.

And WTF does "shanghaing" mean, anyway?

If I ever cheated on my guy, I'd probably at very least end up with a black-eye, if not being added to the statistics of people in Thailand who've had their penis cut off.
Do not dull thy palm with entertainment of each new-hatchтАЩd, unfledgтАЩd comrade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghaiing

[Thai Dyed]

If I ever cheated on my guy, I'd probably at very least end up with a black-eye, if not being added to the statistics of people in Thailand who've had their penis cut off.

And this is called "love" by you?

[attachment=0:3sszzh29]Matt in love.jpg[/attachment:3sszzh29]

[Jetsam]

., and I suspect that few of us who travel to Thailand would be interested in Russian boys, otherwise we'd be going to Russia on our hols.

Don't think so , 4 trips Pattaya all incl. will cost me a fraction of 2 or even 1 trip Moscow all incl.
I'm very interested in Russian boys but Thai boys are cheaper , simple as that

Cat how have you been? You have not been in Tailand for a couple of years. How is it going buddy? I see you still love talking alot! You will go anywhere to find someone to listen to you, just like always. Nice to see you!

Take no notice cat, it doesn't take an Einstein to work out who this poster with yet another silly name is!

[colmx]

Russian Rent boys and their "sponsors" can be seen in Sansuk from time to time...
Usually they are noit plying their business there... just accompanying their Johns

[blueboy]

God they smell bad, particularly in this tropical heat. If one thing puts me off is a foul smelling russian.

[Dax]

Last year I met a young Russian at the pastry shop across from Sizzler's in Royal Garden. He just sat down at my table and started talking. Was I surprised? Definitely. We talked for an hour or so, had a couple of pastries if I remember correctly and went back to my Yensabai condo. He was nice, well mannered, built like a gymnast, beautiful smile, smelled awesome(read sexy) and fun to be with. He left late in the evening came back the following morning and spent the day. I don't know much about him but I do know he was with friends on a holiday. I never saw him again after that.

[Beachlover]

Sounds like a lovely encounter.

[cdnmatt]

If I ever cheated on my guy, I'd probably at very least end up with a black-eye, if not being added to the statistics of people in Thailand who've had their penis cut off.

And this is called "love" by you?

Take the anger and hurt he'd display if I cheated, and turn it into a good night out, full or happiness and unrelenting love.

Yep, I'd call that love. :-)

That is not called love. It is called being really worried that someone else will take away his money stream.

That may be the most unknowable aspect of our relationships- Is a boy jealous because he loves me or because I give him money? If there is cash flow involved, I will probably never know the answer....unless the cash flow stops and he still shows that he loves me..... but I only found one of those in 10 years.

If, however, the boy is self-supporting,.... Oh well, I never knew even one of those, so I can't comment.

[Diec]

Who cares if the boy is on our payroll, as long as we find "true love" even if we have to pay for it.

[cdnmatt]

That may be the most unknowable aspect of our relationships- Is a boy jealous because he loves me or because I give him money? If there is cash flow involved, I will probably never know the answer....unless the cash flow stops and he still shows that he loves me..... but I only found one of those in 10 years.

You know, I used to think Westerners were obsessed with money, but wow, was I ever wrong. The Issan folk are far more obsessed with money than Westerners, but I guess that's what happens when you life a live where everyday, $3 is enough to worry about.

But yeah, of course money is part of it. And it's not the actual amounts or anything, but just the simple break from the poverty stricken life they're basically doomed to. The vast majority of these guys don't have any hope in hell of working themselves out of poverty, so if something comes along to bring them out instantly, of course they'll attach themselves quite intensely. I can't see how living a life, working some shit job at a restaurant for example, living in a shitty room upstairs with the other staff, and making 3500 baht/month could be very happy and fulfilling.

But you know something? I don't really care. All I know is as long as I stay loyal to him, he's far more loyal than probably any BF I'd find in Canada. And I also know my cost of living dropped by about 60% of what is was to stay in Canada alone. So fuck it, he's got it good, I got it good, and we're both happy. Good enough for me!

Oh, and the other thing is the status he gets out of it. He loves showing me off. "Look at the farang I got", kind of thing. Of course, we only ever get to meet his family, and the fat, ugly ladyboy friends who are in their 30s. We don't ever meet the cute, 17 - 19yo gay friends he talks about. :-)

But again, I don't care. Fact is, he's never greedy, and never pushes for anything. Simply because he knows me well enough to know if he ever does, I won't say anything, but will just take off to Chiang Mai or something. But no, he's awesome about everything. He doesn't just want money alone, but does genuinely want to share his life with someone, and obviously, would prefer that someone to be a farang who has money.

You're finally starting to talk some sense.

[catawampuscat]

something to think about cdnmatt..

my first live-in Thai guy had several ladyboy/men friends and over time they came
over to the flat more and more often, sometimes sleeping over and often eating on
the floor with newspapers under the plates..

Sometimes, they would just sit around and brush their long hair and apply make-up and
do their finger nails.. It got old real fast and the cute young boyfriends rarely showed up as they always were busy with farangs and making baht.

So, if you don't mind the company of old ladymen and finding long black hairs all over
the floor and furniture, and the fighting over the mirror and constant primping and
plucking, don't make any changes..
Odds are good that, since birds of a feather flock together and that your bf may be a future ladyman..no problem if you enjoy ladymen..
(This was almost ten years ago and my old flame did not became a ladyman and is just
tres gay, which still works for me on occassion..)

sorry to break the news but remember, you are paying the rent and it is your place and you make the rules.. No ladymen hanging around is a good place to start imho ... :happy7:

That is not called love. It is called being really worried that someone else will take away his money stream.

Or called being really worried that he's liable to get violent and cut your dick off!


he knows me well enough to know if he ever does, I won't say anything, but will just take off to Chiang Mai or something.

Aah ... prepared to discuss things like adults, then.


I don't really care..... So fuck it, he's got it good, I got it good, and we're both happy. Good enough for me!

Agreed ToAT. Some sense, at last.

[Dax]

Beachlover: It was. Only the second time I ever bottomed. I still think of him when I see a hot Russian with a towel around his neck. Probably why I frequent Royal Garden a lot. Odd as it may sound, it's his smell I remember most.

[Beachlover]

You know, I used to think Westerners were obsessed with money, but wow, was I ever wrong. The Issan folk are far more obsessed with money than Westerners, but I guess that's what happens when you life a live where everyday, $3 is enough to worry about.

But yeah, of course money is part of it. And it's not the actual amounts or anything, but just the simple break from the poverty stricken life they're basically doomed to. The vast majority of these guys don't have any hope in hell of working themselves out of poverty

I think it's all in the mind. Millions of Chinese have worked themselves out of poverty... They seem to have this "prosperity" and hard working commercial sense built into their value system and it seems to separate them from the ethnic Thais, Malays and other ethnic groups in Asia. It makes me curious how or why so many Chinese prosper everywhere they go.

But yeah... going back to your point. When you see Thai or Asian folkin general being obsessed with money and think Westerners are not as obsessed with money in comparison... I think it's more because Western folk have the luxury of not having to be obsessed with money. They have a much easier life.


I can't see how living a life, working some shit job at a restaurant for example, living in a shitty room upstairs with the other staff, and making 3500 baht/month could be very happy and fulfilling.

I know... but more than half the world lives this way. Coming from developed nations, we're in the top 10% of the world. The 30-40k baht a month many professional Thais make in Bangkok make is probably around the middle of the mark or actually above average compared to the rest of the world (disclaimer... roughly feeling out the numbers here). Sad huh?


Oh, and the other thing is the status he gets out of it. He loves showing me off. "Look at the farang I got", kind of thing. Of course, we only ever get to meet his family, and the fat, ugly ladyboy friends who are in their 30s. We don't ever meet the cute, 17 - 19yo gay friends he talks about. :-).

Damnit... you have to turn that around! You should get to meet the cute young friends he has as well. :-)


Simply because he knows me well enough to know if he ever does, I won't say anything, but will just take off to Chiang Mai or something.

You would do that? That's cold!


He doesn't just want money alone, but does genuinely want to share his life with someone, and obviously, would prefer that someone to be a farang who has money.

I'd say this is the case with a lot of farang/Thai boy relationships. It's a mix. Part of it is being looked after financially and being able to leave struggle street. But a strong part of it has to be the company. Spending life with someone you actually like. Maybe they're not perfect. Sure you could get a better looking guy. But perhaps they have a great heart. Perhaps they're still fairly good looking. Maybe they're interesting to talk to and as someone from a totally foreign country, life gets to be an adventure with them. That's how I imagine a lot of the older farang/Thai boy relationships that DO work out are.

[Beachlover]

You're finally starting to talk some sense.

Why did you change your handle?... FF didn't get deleted. Just curious.

[cdnmatt]

Aah ... prepared to discuss things like adults, then.

I try, but doesn't usually work. He just gets all pissy, so I give him some time to cool off, and then he usually either apologizes, or gets more pissed at me for leaving. Up to him. :-)


I think it's all in the mind. Millions of Chinese have worked themselves out of poverty... They seem to have this "prosperity" and hard working commercial sense built into their value system and it seems to separate them from the ethnic Thais, Malays and other ethnic groups in Asia. It makes me curious how or why so many Chinese prosper everywhere they go.

Ditto. Decent chance it's just communism at work, with a bunch of really intelligent and powerful leaders. They know how to make the money! Whereas with Thailand, the powerful like to ensure everyone knows their place in society.


I know... but more than half the world lives this way. Coming from developed nations, we're in the top 10% of the world. The 30-40k baht a month many professional Thais make in Bangkok make is probably around the middle of the mark or actually above average compared to the rest of the world (disclaimer... roughly feeling out the numbers here). Sad huh?

Depends how you view it, but in a way, not really sad. If you don't know any different, then who's to say you don't have everything? It's when you go up in life, then drop back down, is when it hurts. If you don't know what it's like to be up, then it's probably not a big deal. Not to mention, who's to saying being "up" in life is the way to do it? Billions of people would hate the lifestyle.



Simply because he knows me well enough to know if he ever does, I won't say anything, but will just take off to Chiang Mai or something.

You would do that? That's cold!

Most definitely, and without hesitation. Although, that would be a last resort, but if he ever pushed enough, that's exactly what I'd do. Go do some snorkeling and boozing in Phuket or something for a few days, while giving him some time to think things over.

Kinda the same treatment I got from my mom I guess. When I was a kid, when I fucked up, my mom knew me well enough to not bother getting angry at me, because then I'd just get angry, and go do something even more stupid then what I was originally in shit for. Instead, she just wouldn't talk to me, and that would crush me. Kim's the exact same type of person.


I'd say this is the case with a lot of farang/Thai boy relationships. It's a mix. Part of it is being looked after financially and being able to leave struggle street. But a strong part of it has to be the company. Spending life with someone you actually like.

Exactly. No struggle, and spending time with someone who doesn't view sharing 6 big Chang beers on the sidewalk as a good night out. They like the entire world-view farangs bring to the table, but unfortunately, many (most?) farangs abuse that aspect. Then of course, these are the same farangs who turn around and bitch that Thais are manipulative, thieving bastards. Go figure...

[Beachlover]

I try, but doesn't usually work. He just gets all pissy, so I give him some time to cool off, and then he usually either apologizes, or gets more pissed at me for leaving. Up to him. :-)

Hey, that's nice that he does apologise sometimes. Shows a little maturity.

(GF will disagree and say Kim is a baby because at 19 his emotional intelligence should be 100%).


Ditto. Decent chance it's just communism at work, with a bunch of really intelligent and powerful leaders. They know how to make the money! Whereas with Thailand, the powerful like to ensure everyone knows their place in society.

No... it's communism that put China in a shit state. With the gradual introduction of capitalism, entrepreneurs took over inefficient state-run businesses and turned them around. Agree about Thailand though.


Depends how you view it, but in a way, not really sad. If you don't know any different, then who's to say you don't have everything? It's when you go up in life, then drop back down, is when it hurts. If you don't know what it's like to be up, then it's probably not a big deal. Not to mention, who's to saying being "up" in life is the way to do it? Billions of people would hate the lifestyle.

Yeah, that's true. Once you've seen the light... I mean, I could never go back to a two blade razor lol.


Most definitely, and without hesitation. Although, that would be a last resort, but if he ever pushed enough, that's exactly what I'd do. Go do some snorkeling and boozing in Phuket or something for a few days, while giving him some time to think things over.

Kinda the same treatment I got from my mom I guess. When I was a kid, when I fucked up, my mom knew me well enough to not bother getting angry at me, because then I'd just get angry, and go do something even more stupid then what I was originally in shit for. Instead, she just wouldn't talk to me, and that would crush me. Kim's the exact same type of person.

Ah, I see. So you would take off temporarily. I thought you meant it as a permanent thing.

Aw... that's cute, your Mum knew how to get to you. Mine just screamed and yelled and got a stick out lol.

You're finally starting to talk some sense.

Why did you change your handle?... FF didn't get deleted. Just curious.

FF was banned. I'm like sooooo inconvenienced. LOL.

[Beachlover]

Ah bummer. I didn't realise FF was banned because it's not deleted and is still click-able. What triggered it?

Heh... You need a picture of a twat as your avatar.

Ah bummer. I didn't realise FF was banned because it's not deleted and is still click-able. What triggered it?



Fuck if I know. Jinks must have had a bad day picking up fares.

So to get back on message !!!!

Is that definate no - no Russians working as go go boys?

Tim

Definite no, Timmy. Go back to your fantasy land.

Any update on this thread - any western boys working?

[stevehadders]

If you are looking for western guys, Russians et al why not try Europe - Prague and london have an abundance - in London you have Brazilians, Polish, Russians, Thais, all available and not difficult to find - literally a few clicks away

Actually I met a group of visiting young Russian guys at Jomtien during my last visit and got to know one of them quite well. He was not looking for money, just fun. And fun was had.

My future Thai husband doesn't mind as he know's I'm a player!!

This is something I don't really get. How can so many of you guys have a BF / husband, and be able to openly cheat on them like that? If I ever cheated on my guy, I'd probably at very least end up with a black-eye, if not being added to the statistics of people in Thailand who've had their penis cut off. Ok, maybe that's a bit exaggerated. Well, the black-eye probably isn't too far off the mark, as I could see that happening.

Really though, Thais tend to be very emotional, and take everything to heart. In general, they're very peaceful and happy people, but they don't like their emotions being fucked with. I don't know, but if I ever cheated on my guy, guaranteed I'd never hear from him again. I know him... he'd just disappear, get a new SIM card for his cell, probably cry every day for 2 - 3 months, and that would be that.

If I ever cheated, he might come back to me to give it another try, but it'd never be the same, and it'd never work. If I cheat once, it's over, and forever. There's no way he'd ever truly forgive me for cheating on him, if I did.

CDN......I'm not even bothered in reading the rest of the posts. You're absolutely right. Apart from a possible black eye of a current partner it shows simply the lack of respect for yourself or anyone else.
I maybe somewhat old-fashioned, but calling a relationship "open" is same as "don't give a shit about others".