Grand Opening Events Lavender Nov 20-22

I hope others will be able to attend this event also. I have booked 2 rooms for me a a couple of friends. Having said there a few weeks ago before the sky restaurant and pool opened, I look forward to seeing these new additions. Here is the email I just received.

Grand Opening ceremonies will include:

Friday NOV 20

4pm Special monk ceremony--hotel lobby and hotel spirit houses

7pm Opening cocktail reception at lobby and lobby bar

10pm Grand Opening show at PBCM with special guest performers and lots of surprises



Saturday NOV 21

9am Gay Day Trip with Asian Plus Travel and the men of PBCM

8pm Grand Opening Ceremonies at Lavender Sky--An Evening Under the Stars with special music, performances, dancing, and more. Includes tours of the facilities



Sunday NOVt 22

Noon BBQ at swimming pool



Thank you for your interesting.


Matchima Luangrahaeng (Tammy)

[CoffeeBreak]

Maybe you or anyone else who attends this function can post your report here.Either later this year or next year maybe will visit CM and the Lavender seems like a decent place to stay.

Dear Friend,

At long last the renovations and construction are complete and all of our hotel facilities are finished. To celebrate and to introduce Asia's biggest gay hotel, we are very happy to announce our special Grand Opening weekend celebration of the Lavender Lanna Hotel from November 20 to November 22. Events for this weekend will include:

Friday November 20

Special Monk Blessing and Ceremony
9:09am--we invite all of friends to join us and our staff for this very special event

Grand Opening Kickoff Party
Our Grand Opening Kickoff Party will be held at Power Boys Chiang Mai from 9pm to 2am with free appetizers and snacks from our lobby restaurant and 100 baht Smirnoff Mule all night long. The Lavender Cabaret will produce a special show that evening at 10pm with many special guests including the Lady Johanna Pink from the Netherlands plus the Men of Lavender will be putting on a few special acts of their own. This will be one of Chiang Mai's biggest parties to kick off our special weekend.

Saturday November 21

Swimming and Rafting Trip with the Mend of Lavender
Join us for a special trip from 10am until 5pm with the Men of Lavender as we travel to a beautiful waterfall for swimming , a picnic lunch, and lots of drinks and fun times. Later that day you can relax with the guys by the waterfall or join in for a fun raft trip. This will be a fun day in the beautiful countryside around Chiang Mai. The cost for this event is 1999 baht.

Grand Opening Celebration--An Evening Under the Stars
Join us for our VIP invitation-only Grand Opening. Registration and group tours of the hotel will take place from 7pm to 8pm in the hotel lobby and entrance foyer. At 8pm, we will open Lavender Sky, our beautiful rooftop restaurant for a special night that will include many special performances and the official Grand Opening of the hotel and all of our facilities. There will be free drinks and free food from 8pm until 9:30pm, and the celebration will continue until 1am as the the city of Chaing Mai sparkles below.

Sunday November 22

Pool Party
We end our weekend of celebration with a party at the swimming pool complex from noon until 3pm. Join us for a special brunch buffet for only 150 baht. We will also have 100 baht mimosas and frozen Bellini's from the bar. The men of the Lavender Massage will be on hand for free foot massage, sunscreen application, or a frolic in the pool. You can eat, drink, steam, swim, and more as we chill out after a long weekend of fun.

Also, from Nov 20-22, to celebrate our Grand Opening Weekend, we will offer 25% off all rooms booked through our website AND 25% off all hair salon services AND 25% off all massage service from our male massage.

For more information, please see our website at www.lavenderlannahotel.com (http://www.lavenderlannahotel.com) or email to Bird at bird@lavenderlannahotel.com. The Lavender Lanna Hotel complex includes the 24-hour Lavender Coffeeshop, the Lavender Gift Shop, the Lavender Gelato and Espresso Bar, Asian Plus Travel Tour Desk, Lavender Salon and Massage, Lavender Poolside Bar, and two of Asia's best new entertainment venues, Power Boys Chiang Mai and the Lavender Sky Restaurant and Lounge.

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Either later this year or next year maybe will visit CM and the Lavender seems like a decent place to stay.

My next trip to LOS will be CM & Phuket, so I'm also very interested in developments in CM.

I think you will enjoy the Lavender Lana Hotel. Too bad you will miss the Grand Opening.

My view is that the hotel will bring renewed interest to the area of Chiang Mai

[Smiles]

Why is are 'events' from Lanna Lavender Hotel stickied to the top of the message board? MARK's stuff about events at Krazy Dragon are not and they're in very much the same vein.

Drove past Lavender last night after a few drinks at Soho Bar in Chiang Mai (very much recommended for a laid back drink with friends ... very friendly ... nice comfortable decor). Lanna Lavender looked, er well, rather lavender. Other than that, pretty much similar to 12,000 other middling hotels in Chiang Mai.

I think you will enjoy the Lavender Lana Hotel. Too bad you will miss the Grand Opening.

My view is that the hotel will bring renewed interest to the area of Chiang Mai

Renewed interest on the part of sex tourists in Thailand's culture capital. I'm sure the people of Chiang Mai will be thrilled.

[quote="Pattaya Male":25cjzhve]I think you will enjoy the Lavender Lana Hotel. Too bad you will miss the Grand Opening.

My view is that the hotel will bring renewed interest to the area of Chiang Mai

Renewed interest on the part of sex tourists in Thailand's culture capital. I'm sure the people of Chiang Mai will be thrilled.[/quote:25cjzhve]

I realize you are being critical or humorous, however when you employee as many people as they do, and all the tourist dollars that will be spent in Chiang Mai, yes, most people in Chiang Mai will be happy. Last time I was there (Oct 20) I had a chance to talk to a nice Thai family staying at the hotel. They were very happy with the refurbishing of the hotel and the hotel staff.

You may not be aware, but many of us, do indeed enjoy the Thai culture and Thai way of life. And I like many others are very proud of being gay and part of the gay culture also. A bit tired of people trying to put us down or make us feel less than we are. I don't find it humorous. Just part of an old paradigm some people are still stuck in.

I'm kind of sick of people like you who apparently think that boy prostitution is an inseparable part of "gay culture".

This is not just a hotel -- it sounds like a thinly disguised brothel. So much for "gay culture".

And get this: the average person in Chiang Mai does NOT want sex tourists in their city, no matter how many cheap hotel rooms they rent and bowls of noodles they buy. They see them a scourge on the face of their once-beautiful city.

If you think otherwise, you are entirely out of touch with the average Thai person.

I'm kind of sick of people like you who apparently think that boy prostitution is an inseparable part of "gay culture". I notice you could not resist using the word "Boy". It lessens your argument!

This is not just a hotel -- it sounds like a thinly disguised brothel. So much for "gay culture".

And get this: the average person in Chiang Mai does NOT want sex tourists in their city, no matter how many cheap hotel rooms they rent and bowls of noodles they buy. They see them a scourge on the face of their once-beautiful city.

If you think otherwise, you are entirely out of touch with the average Thai person.

Not possible to argue with a fool, I know. But again you have NO idea how in touch or out of touch I am. You just make it up as you go to suit you. Is it possible I do know? Or are you trying to imply you know so much more than I do?

But you did give it your best try...........and lost. BYE BYE

I "lost"? What did I "lose"? You're the one who threw the chess board up in the air and walked away.

Why don't you do a survey of the people in Chiang Mai and ask how they feel about sex tourism in the center of their historical city, and particularly a gay boy brothel operating openly under the guise of promoting "gay culture".

Then get back to us, OK?

I "lost"? What did I "lose"? You're the one who threw the chess board up in the air and walked away.

Why don't you do a survey of the people in Chiang Mai and ask how they feel about sex tourism in the center of their historical city, and particularly a gay boy brothel operating openly under the guise of promoting "gay culture".

Then get back to us, OK?

I am back. 76% in favor. You are a silly goose.

And you're a sex tourist who thinks that your dollars erase the revulsion that most Thai people feel for you.

And you're a sex tourist who thinks that your dollars erase the revulsion that most Thai people feel for you.

You are more a silly goose each time you post. Some may say crazy, but I am sure as a term of endearment. And why do you post on a gay Thailand board that talks so much about sex? Ooops just made my own point about a silly, silly goose.

Moron. You think I have a problem with sex? I love sex and do it as often as possible.

My point was -- and you must be really dense if I have to point this out to you -- is that the majority of Thai people look down on sex tourists (like you) with hatred and disgust, and would prefer that their country was free of your ilk.

If you still don't understand, I'll draw you a picture.

Moron. You think I have a problem with sex? I love sex and do it as often as possible.

My point was -- and you must be really dense if I have to point this out to you -- is that the majority of Thai people look down on sex tourists (like you) with hatred and disgust, and would prefer that their country was free of your ilk.

If you still don't understand, I'll draw you a picture.

#1. Do you think people care if "love sex and do it as often as possible". (Not sure if this means once a year, but no matter, you can "chuck wow" by your self all you want.

#2 I assume you never have offed and one.......which certainly makes you superior to me.......not

#3 I would love to see your picture.

You really, really, really are a silly goose to post on a board about gay Thailand. Do you even know what goes on in the places other posters post about on this board? Are you opposed to what many of the other posters might be doing? Please make your opinion clear, you silly silly goose.

Love and Hugs

For the benefit of the other posters, I will end this lively debate. You must be tried of our bickering!
Sorry

[zinzone]

Moron. You think I have a problem with sex? I love sex and do it as often as possible.

My point was -- and you must be really dense if I have to point this out to you -- is that the majority of Thai people look down on sex tourists (like you) with hatred and disgust, and would prefer that their country was free of your ilk.

If you still don't understand, I'll draw you a picture.


BB often your posts are astute, clever or funny but on this occasion you have fallen well short.
You say amongst other things:

" the majority of Thai people look down on sex tourists(like you) with hatred and disgust, and would prefer that their country was free of your ilk".....

Yeah? Really?
Well how come the country has literally thousands of "establishments" gay and straight catering exclusively for Thai prostitutes and their Thai customers.
Just because a few influencial often Chinese-Thais make noises about those 'on the game' and their customers, do not be fooled by that for one minute as the whole country relies upon sex tourists and most hotels allow punters to bring in their buy outs thus aiding and abetting it to flourish as do other related businesses.

The main centres of BKK, Phuket and Pattaya are driven and allowed to prosper by reliance on the sex industry. These places also have well established and developed commercialised areas for gays. So well done to Lavender for attempting to make Chiang Mai an appealing place for gays to visit.

[bao-bao]

The main centres of BKK, Phuket and Pattaya ... have well established and developed commercialised areas for gays. So well done to Lavender for attempting to make Chiang Mai an appealing place for gays to visit.

It's BECAUSE Bangkok , Phuket and Pattaya have well-established areas that cater to the gay male clientele that there's no need to do any further modifications to Chiang Mai, Udon Thani, Khon Kaen, Surin, Lopburi or any number of other pleasant destinations in Thailand.

What the Thai do with/for other Thai in their own country is their business and up to them. I'm talking about gay foreigners.

I repeat: there is absolutely NO need for a "new" gay area.

[Beachlover]

You really, really, really are a silly goose

"Thilly goose"

[zinzone]

The main centres of BKK, Phuket and Pattaya ... have well established and developed commercialised areas for gays. So well done to Lavender for attempting to make Chiang Mai an appealing place for gays to visit.

It's BECAUSE Bangkok , Phuket and Pattaya have well-established areas that cater to the gay male clientele that there's no need to do any further modifications to Chiang Mai, Udon Thani, Khon Kaen, Surin, Lopburi or any number of other pleasant destinations in Thailand.

What the Thai do with/for other Thai in their own country is their business and up to them. I'm talking about gay foreigners.

I repeat: there is absolutely NO need for a "new" gay area.

I am confused is bao bao and Beach Bunny one and the same or what?

[cdnmatt]

heh, this thread is kind of amusing. There's a couple people sticking up for the deep-rooted culture and history of CM, and would prefer not to see it affected by a large gay, sex tourist scene. That's actually a sentiment I agree with. CM is a great place to get away from the gay nightlife of Thailand, but still retain all the comforts of farangland.

Then it appears everyone else is gobsmacked, and thinking, "What?!? A gay guy who doesn't think the more sex tourism in Thailand, the better? What the hell's wrong with him? He's just really weird, and not quite right in the head. That's it!".

heh...

heh, this thread is kind of amusing. There's a couple people sticking up for the deep-rooted culture and history of CM, and would prefer not to see it affected by a large gay, sex tourist scene. That's actually a sentiment I agree with. CM is a great place to get away from the gay nightlife of Thailand, but still retain all the comforts of farangland.

Heretic! Troll! Inciter!

The Thais LOVE sex tourists, as evidenced by the squalid little pockets of sleaze they allow to exist in Sunee Plaza and Soi Prostitute. The more the merrier!

LOL.

[catawampuscat]

I think pattaya male and beach bunny are both right.

It is all about class and poverty..
Upper and middle class Thais are not proud of the sex tourism. Gay sex tourism is a tiny
fraction of the massive hetero sex tourism industry btw..
Lower class and very poor people appear to accept the situation. If they can handle
selling (renting) their bodies, they can feed their families, buy a house, a car, pay for education of
younger brothers/sister/children, and get better medical care for aged parents etc.
This path to material success is denied to them, by their lack of education, family connections and if their skin is dark.. One can do back breaking manual labour for a pittance or get rich quick with a farang..

As many Thai guys have said to farangs, "you think too much"..
:idea:
wisdom indeed..

[Smiles]

... and I'd still like to know why this obvious thread has been stickied to the top of the Board? Why does Lavender Lanna get such exceptional treatment when 'events' at other venues do not?
I can certainly understand stickying (sp?) 'events' to the top perhaps until it's date has come and gone (within reason), but how and why did this particular hotel receive such an honour?

Because they are advertisers. Spike and his trusty sidekick can be easily bought.

[zinzone]

bao bao a.k.a. beach bunny writes:

"I repeat: there is absolutely NO need for a "new" gay area"


-Since when BB do you decide what Thailand needs or does not need?

This is a thread concerning the grand opening of what appears to be a nice hotel etc which happens to be gay friendly yet you refer to this hotel as a:

'gay boy brothel operating openly under the guise of promoting "gay culture".'

Elsewhere you rant on about the hatred and disgust felt by Thais and so on.
It is starting to sound BB like you have serious problems in your head .

Many who post on this forum know a lot more about Thailand that you you do, and some of us actually live here.If there any serious objection by the Thais towards tourists who come here for sex and Thais who make money out of it then it would not flourish in the way it does.

Kindly do not try to impose your westernised and prudish attitude to sex on the rest of us.
Get it?

If I'm bao bao, you're Pattaya Male. Two sex tourists who think that the Thais bow down to the great White God Man because he throws a few baht at prostitutes.

Next time you're in Chiang Mai, why not ask a few locals how they feel about the Pattaya-zation of their city by foreign sex tourists looking to have sex with young Thai boys.

I am not prudish, I have tried and enjoyed just about every sexual perversion known to man -- and often! But there is a time and a place for everything. The historic city center of Chiang Mai is a wrong place for a boy brothel to openly operate. Don't take my word for it -- just wait for the backlash from the local community. It will come, for sure, and this brothel will be history.

And if you think it's not a brothel, just read this account written on another board:


I have stayed there and enjoyed myself immensely. Any willing staff can be offed to your room apparently. But it is not like Malaysia Hotel with street boys milling around the lobby. The non-go-go/non-massage staff are good at their jobs..mostly..and generally very attractive, friendly, professional and not sluts by any means. I did not off any but was told it is normal to do so...they seemed so pleasant and wholesome...I didn't want to commercialize them...as long as I had enough cute massage and go-go boys available. When I was there, some of the go-go and massage boys were swimming and relaxing around the pool in the afternoon and mixing with the guests and obviously available to whip upstairs for a quickie at about Bht300 off fee. I didn't actually off any to my room as I used the massage facilities mostly for sex. One massage boy did slip up after work for a good-night quickie and I gave him Bht1,000 so he could take care of the off and cover his tip.
For the massage boys, the off is the cost of the massage.
The massage rooms are the same as some of the guest rooms...assuming you don't want to take to your room.

This place will not survive in its current format -- trust me on that. Just wait and see.

[TrongpaiExpat]

This place will not survive in its current format -- trust me on that. Just wait and see.

Yes, I agree with that fully. When the time is right either Red Shirt group No. 51 or some splinter group will do something if the local government does not act first.

... and I'd still like to know why this obvious thread has been stickied to the top of the Board? Why does Lavender Lanna get such exceptional treatment when 'events' at other venues do not?
I can certainly understand stickying (sp?) 'events' to the top perhaps until it's date has come and gone (within reason), but how and why did this particular hotel receive such an honour?

Smiles,
In an earlier post you wrote almost the same thing but in that posted asked about Krazy Dragon. Did you notice the article that is pinned at the very top? I think it promotes Krazy Dragron.

....This path to material success is denied to them, by their lack of education, family connections and if their skin is dark.. ...and, where at all possible, by the "Upper and middle class Thais"!

... and I'd still like to know why this obvious thread has been stickied to the top of the Board? Why does Lavender Lanna get such exceptional treatment when 'events' at other venues do not?

Like Krazy Dragon, they have purchased ad space on SGT. If you look on the top page you'll see the frame on the upper left. It is standard practice for forums like this to give sponsors special treatment. The forums that I frequent for my other hobbies (cars, investing, etc) all do the same.

[bao-bao]

bao bao a.k.a. beach bunny writes:

"I repeat: there is absolutely NO need for a "new" gay area"
-Since when BB do you decide what Thailand needs or does not need?

This is a thread concerning the grand opening of what appears to be a nice hotel etc which happens to be gay friendly yet you refer to this hotel as a:
'gay boy brothel operating openly under the guise of promoting "gay culture".'

Elsewhere you rant on about the hatred and disgust felt by Thais and so on.
It is starting to sound BB like you have serious problems in your head .

Many who post on this forum know a lot more about Thailand that you you do, and some of us actually live here.If there any serious objection by the Thais towards tourists who come here for sex and Thais who make money out of it then it would not flourish in the way it does.

Kindly do not try to impose your westernised and prudish attitude to sex on the rest of us.
Get it?

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you here, zinzone.

I will point out a few things that you seem to have inadvertently gotten wrong, though:
1) I am not Beach Bunny, although I do agree with some of his thoughts... when he's able to be civil. :cheers:

2) Nowhere in my post on this thread did I say our sponsor is a "gay boy brothel operating openly under the guise of promoting 'gay culture' " - go back and look (and note the post hasn't been edited).

3) Nowhere "elsewhere" (as you said) do I "rant on about the hatred and disgust felt by Thais" in regard to the World's Oldest Profession. As I DID say - what the Thai do for themselves is up to them.

4) I am not prudish, by any stretch of the imagination - but I don't come to Thailand for the sex.

If there aren't already enough places for you personally to purchase release, please buy one of the regular offerings in the "Businesses for Sale" section and have at it yourself. However, I stand by my original opinion that there is NO need to open a NEW "gay area" in any areas of Thailand outside the already rich selection in the three cities mentioned before - Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket.

PS - I'm always open to learning new things about Thailand, by the way - and with only a dozen trips or so to my credit there is still a lot to learn, I admit. It just seems we are interested in different parts of the culture. Mai pen rai.

[zinzone]

If I'm bao bao, you're Pattaya Male. Two sex tourists who think that the Thais bow down to the great White God Man because he throws a few baht at prostitutes.

Next time you're in Chiang Mai, why not ask a few locals how they feel about the Pattaya-zation of their city by foreign sex tourists looking to have sex with young Thai boys.

I am not prudish, I have tried and enjoyed just about every sexual perversion known to man -- and often! But there is a time and a place for everything. The historic city center of Chiang Mai is a wrong place for a boy brothel to openly operate. Don't take my word for it -- just wait for the backlash from the local community. It will come, for sure, and this brothel will be history.

And if you think it's not a brothel, just read this account written on another board:


I have stayed there and enjoyed myself immensely. Any willing staff can be offed to your room apparently. But it is not like Malaysia Hotel with street boys milling around the lobby. The non-go-go/non-massage staff are good at their jobs..mostly..and generally very attractive, friendly, professional and not sluts by any means. I did not off any but was told it is normal to do so...they seemed so pleasant and wholesome...I didn't want to commercialize them...as long as I had enough cute massage and go-go boys available. When I was there, some of the go-go and massage boys were swimming and relaxing around the pool in the afternoon and mixing with the guests and obviously available to whip upstairs for a quickie at about Bht300 off fee. I didn't actually off any to my room as I used the massage facilities mostly for sex. One massage boy did slip up after work for a good-night quickie and I gave him Bht1,000 so he could take care of the off and cover his tip.
For the massage boys, the off is the cost of the massage.
The massage rooms are the same as some of the guest rooms...assuming you don't want to take to your room.

This place will not survive in its current format -- trust me on that. Just wait and see.

Beach Bunny if you are going to quote from another board please give us the full reference and citation so we can check for ourselves the integrity of your quote. But in any event the report will encourage many to visit Lavender Lanna.

You also state:

"Next time you're in Chiang Mai, why not ask a few locals how they feel about the Pattaya-zation of their city by foreign sex tourists looking to have sex with young Thai boys".
Next time I am in CM I will indeed be asking local boys aged 18 or 19+ up to have sex with me, and as before they will jump at the chance to do so.
Asking other locals who are complete strangers to me about foreigners having sex with their fellow countrymen is really rather odd don't you think dear?

(note: I withdraw my aka reference to bao bao and beach bunny)

But in any event the report will encourage many to visit Lavender Lanna.



Including the authorities and protest groups. Enjoy it while you can, and just hope your picture doesn't end up on the font page of the Chiang Mai Mail.

[Smiles]

... and I'd still like to know why this obvious thread has been stickied to the top of the Board? Why does Lavender Lanna get such exceptional treatment when 'events' at other venues do not?Like Krazy Dragon, they have purchased ad space on SGT. If you look on the top page you'll see the frame on the upper left. It is standard practice for forums like this to give sponsors special treatment. The forums that I frequent for my other hobbies (cars, investing, etc) all do the same.
Yes, well your stating the bleedin' obvious ... I'd just like the Admin of this Board to say it himself, seeing as how the MO of this Board is changing.

I dispute your statement that "they all do it". 'All' message boards don't do that.
Putting ads up on a board may well be necessary, and if they are not overly intrusive (like here) I see nothing wrong with that.
Upping the ante by treating an advertiser differently or with ~ as you say ~ 'special treatment' or pushing ads through board content in the guise of a regular post is another step altogether.
I'd just like the owner of Sawatdee to let the Members know if that's what's happening.

I think Smiles wants a sticky for his monkey-boy pick-up truck rentals.

[Beachlover]

LOL... Bao Bao... this is a disturbing trend with respectable members being accused of being Beach Bunny...

LOL... Bao Bao... this is a disturbing trend with respectable members being accused of being Beach Bunny...I want to make it perfectly clear that no-one has accused me of being Beach Bunny, which is rather a shame since it means that no-one has realised that Beach Bunny and I are one and the same, two personas authored by a single writer. Of course, I have never claimed to be respectable.

LOL... Bao Bao... this is a disturbing trend with respectable members being accused of being Beach Bunny...I want to make it perfectly clear that no-one has accused me of being Beach Bunny, which is rather a shame since it means that no-one has realised that Beach Bunny and I are one and the same, two personas authored by a single writer. Of course, I have never claimed to be respectable.

Nice try, but the real Beach Bunny would never put a hyphen (incorrectly) between "no" and "one".

the real Beach BunnyI have a firmer grasp of reality than ever to hold out that a character I post as and I have more than a passing acquaintance.

[Beachlover]

Oh here we go... another spat lol.

I dispute your statement that "they all do it". 'All' message boards don't do that.


I suggest that you re-read my post. I said that all of the other forums that I visit do the same thing. That is different than "all forums do it." I've run forums like this in the past and none of them were self-supporting, so perhaps I'm a bit more sympathetic than you. Some forums are transparent about it and others aren't but in this case I don't see how it matters--SGT is filled with cynics anyway.

[Brad the Impala]

SGT is filled with cynics anyway.

Ain't that the truth!

Thank you for sharing.I think you will enjoy the Lavender Lana Hotel. Too bad you will miss the Grand Opening. :bis:

[Smiles]

Would the esteemed Admin and/or Mod of this Board please let the entire membership of this Board understand why this post touting the Lanna Lavendar Hotel (and assorted peripheral enterprises) should be sticky-ed to the top of this Board?

Would the esteemed Admin and/or Mod of this Board please let the entire membership of this Board understand why this post touting the Lanna Lavendar Hotel (and assorted peripheral enterprises) should be sticky-ed to the top of this Board?

I am wondering why Smiles is so obsessed with asking this same question over and over? Possibly Smiles could PM the owner. If the owner does not respond, maybe he does not want to answer Smiles.

My advice would be to relax. This certainly can not be that important.

[CoffeeBreak]

Got this following link via the front page of the on-line Nation newspaper:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Lavender- ... 14204.html (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Lavender-Lanna-Hotel-Powerboys-t314204.html)

-Not exactly a flattering report !

[firecat69]

If you bothered to read the whole report and all the replies, you would have seen many positive comments as well as negative.

I venture to say and such business would receive both positive and negative replies. As far as the Thread being at the top. It appears the owners want it that way . If you don't like the thread don't read it. Really simple. Unless you pay for the site you have no business questioning how the owners choose to run their site.

If you don't like it Go elsewhere!!!!!!

Got this following link via the front page of the on-line Nation newspaper:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Lavender- ... 14204.html (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Lavender-Lanna-Hotel-Powerboys-t314204.html)


This link by the way did NOT come from the "on-line Nation newspaper". It was made by an individual on the Thia Visa forum. The Thai Visa forum is just like the other forums. Nothing official, just people posting same as on this forum.

It could have easily been written by "CoffeeBreak" using a ThaiVisa forum sign in name and then linked here. It is very disingenuous to mislead people by trying to say it was a report from the Nation Newspaper. ThaiVisa is used to promote its own business. There are good and helpful information on that site about all sorts of things.

Bangkok Post banned ThaiVisa from sending out "breaking-news" emails using Bangkok Post's copyrighted material, as I understand it.

Debate and difference of opinions are expected. But trying to support an opinion by using false references is not.

[CoffeeBreak]

Got this following link via the front page of the on-line Nation newspaper:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Lavender- ... 14204.html (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Lavender-Lanna-Hotel-Powerboys-t314204.html)


This link by the way did NOT come from the "on-line Nation newspaper". It was made by an individual on the Thia Visa forum. The Thai Visa forum is just like the other forums. Nothing official, just people posting same as on this forum.

It could have easily been written by "CoffeeBreak" using a ThaiVisa forum sign in name and then linked here. It is very disingenuous to mislead people by trying to say it was a report from the Nation Newspaper. ThaiVisa is used to promote its own business. There are good and helpful information on that site about all sorts of things.

Bangkok Post banned ThaiVisa from sending out "breaking-news" emails using Bangkok Post's copyrighted material, as I understand it.

Debate and difference of opinions are expected. But trying to support an opinion by using false references is not.


What are you talking about?!
If you bothered to look at the on line front page of the Nation on the date I made my post under web board there was a heading titled Lavender Lanna and Power Boys and clicking on that led to the Thai Visa link.So what I said was correct and DO NOT make libellous suggestions and false allegations otherwise.The only person misled is yourself which I must assume is due to a lack of intelligence.

[CoffeeBreak]

firecat69 writes:
"If you bothered to read the whole report and all the replies, you would have seen many positive comments as well as negative".

I agree including a reasoned reply from the owners. Which I originally posted the link there was only the rather negative OP's original post.
By the way from all accounts the Lavender Lanna and Power Boys sounds like it will be a big success and I look forward to staying/going there on my next trip to CM.

Got this following link via the front page of the on-line Nation newspaper:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Lavender- ... 14204.html (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Lavender-Lanna-Hotel-Powerboys-t314204.html)


This link by the way did NOT come from the "on-line Nation newspaper". It was made by an individual on the Thia Visa forum. The Thai Visa forum is just like the other forums. Nothing official, just people posting same as on this forum.

It could have easily been written by "CoffeeBreak" using a ThaiVisa forum sign in name and then linked here. It is very disingenuous to mislead people by trying to say it was a report from the Nation Newspaper. ThaiVisa is used to promote its own business. There are good and helpful information on that site about all sorts of things.

Bangkok Post banned ThaiVisa from sending out "breaking-news" emails using Bangkok Post's copyrighted material, as I understand it.

Debate and difference of opinions are expected. But trying to support an opinion by using false references is not.


What are you talking about?!
If you bothered to look at the on line front page of the Nation on the date I made my post under web board there was a heading titled Lavender Lanna and Power Boys and clicking on that led to the Thai Visa link.So what I said was correct and DO NOT make libellous suggestions and false allegations otherwise.The only person misled is yourself which I must assume is due to a lack of intelligence.

I am happy that you agreed that the story was not a news report from the Nation, but a post on Thaivisa as I said. I stand by my post. Maybe semantics, but when I see "frontpage" I view it differently than " home page". To me you were implying it was a story from the Nation. However, thank you for clearing up what was the source.

Who cares what Beach Bunny thinks? What a complete dick he is. I'll bet anything his whole act is rooted in hiding something, as people who squawk the loudest are wont to do.

Thailand, even, yes, Chiang Mai, has a three hundred year history of being the world's 'comfort' destination. It has nothing to do with Westerners seeking it out and everything to do with the young women and men who have made the conscious decision to whore themselves or at least 'provide companionship'. This Beach Bunny dude is a CLASSIC case of someone who has indulged, found what they wanted, then opines pompously that no one else shall enjoy. Hey DUDE! Boy stands on corner wanting to make baht being someone's bf it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!

When boys and girls no longer entice westerners (oh, sorry BB! SEX TOURISTS!) in Chiang Mai then the haughty folks of the Chiang Mai elites, and their Beach Bunny surrogates, can rest easy that Westerners that like Chiang Mai men and women will no longer come here seeking them.

Good Grief...is that guy for REAL??

[zinzone]

Who cares what Beach Bunny thinks? What a complete dick he is. I'll bet anything his whole act is rooted in hiding something, as people who squawk the loudest are wont to do.

Thailand, even, yes, Chiang Mai, has a three hundred year history of being the world's 'comfort' destination. It has nothing to do with Westerners seeking it out and everything to do with the young women and men who have made the conscious decision to whore themselves or at least 'provide companionship'. This Beach Bunny dude is a CLASSIC case of someone who has indulged, found what they wanted, then opines pompously that no one else shall enjoy. Hey DUDE! Boy stands on corner wanting to make baht being someone's bf it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!

When boys and girls no longer entice westerners (oh, sorry BB! SEX TOURISTS!) in Chiang Mai then the haughty folks of the Chiang Mai elites, and their Beach Bunny surrogates, can rest easy that Westerners that like Chiang Mai men and women will no longer come here seeking them.

Good Grief...is that guy for REAL??


Agree with your comments re BB as whilst he can make some sane and interesting posts he is well and truly 'caught in the headlights' with his ludicrous postings on this thread. He has lost any credibility he may have had before.

Agree with your comments re BB as whilst he can make some sane and interesting posts he is well and truly 'caught in the headlights' with his ludicrous postings on this thread. He has lost any credibility he may have had before.

HAH! I've been waiting for the inevitable 'Beach Bunny Retribution' and nothing has come across...I thought the reference to him as a complete 'DICK' might have been a bit over the top...

As he's been banned, according to himself, he's posting under the 'Dickhead' handle...

Can I take credit for giving him the idea??? j/k

No, you can't take credit.

PS: your tea sucks.

Still trying to figure out what your problem is with Sex Tourists fanning out all over Thailand.

Btw, be careful...even HINTING that you might employ anti-Royal propaganda as a weapon of means could get you in big trouble. Your aliases will only shield you for so long.

My problem with this particular venue is that it is operating in an in-your-face fashion, in the center of historic Chiang Mai.

It's funny that you say that. I was in Chiang Mai a few months ago and was pleased with my experience but confounded by the difficulty of finding places. My best experience came only after my tuk tuk driver and I went up and down a street for a half hour looking for a massage place with a tiny sign that had such small font it was impossible to see unless you were standing in front of it..I think it was Gemini.

When I sought out Lavender as it was being advertised as 'open' (but that clearly was deceptive) I was quite pleased to see a full service place catering to everything one would want, sort of a gay resort in a place I didn't feel dirty seeking out. My impression was 'WOW. For the first time I wouldn't feel ashamed to walk into a place' as so many other places make you feel.

I think a big part of the perception problem is that some- and clearly you do- think that gay venues must necessarily be shunted into dark alleys. I understand the practicality of it, as it relates to the prudes, but do you see that part of the process of removing the stigma necessarily includes places like Babylon, NAB Man Club and, yes, Lavender pulling the business up onto a more respectable plane? You've got it backwards: The reason gay venues are stigmatized by proper people is that they ARE dirty, dank and shunted into the dark corners of cities. There may be a price to pay for trying to establish a beachhead of respectability, but if it succeeds in Chiang Mai you're talking about elevating the gay brand there, not dragging down Chiang Mai's reputation. If the mothers and fathers of Chiang Mai kids that are gay see that there is a quality, out-in-the-open respectable establishment they may very well be MORE likely to tolerate it. It has to start somewhere.

In my mind, over my past visits to Chiang Mai recently, I have formed a PERCEPTION that CM is NOT as sleazy as Bangkok, Phuket or Pattaya. I am at this very moment making a decision to take my business there precisely because I enjoy the qualities of the city and the relative upscale vibe of its gay establishments. There will be gay always in every corner of Thai society, and that includes a healthy number of its politicians and, yes, boys in brown. There will always be a tolerance of katoeys and gay tourists because that is PART of the culture, and has been for a long time. What they don't like is the furtive, sleazy, downmarket traits that so much of the gay scene has generated over the last forty years. Lavendar is way to get away from that.

Having said all that, the location next to a hospital is chancey. If the 'bad guys' need an easy target, they got one. But that says more about them than it does about us or the courage the Lavendar owners have in taking a shot at it, don't you think?

BTW, as its not in the walled area it really can't be considered a blight in the old town area... unless you think Central mall is a salute to the ancient city...

Listen, shit for brains. Can you not differentiate between a "gay venue" such as a bookshop, a coffee shop, a salon, or other meeting place -- and a full-on brothel?

Actually, I can. The difference from your gay venues is about a five minute walk to any short time hotel. At least by keeping it all onsite it is safer and less likely to lead to shenanigans that inevitably occur when you off a stranger from a bar. Why don't you cut the pious act that you've constructed for yourself where you view picking up a lad somewhere on the street as being wholesome but those that go to well established places to do so are polluting the culture?

What's funny is that I think you REALLY believe that you, unlike the rest of us, never off a whore. They just all 'love you' for your wonderful self.

Do you drink? Seriously, your posts in the evening are quite a bit more belligerent and off colour than ones during the day. I'm not judging, just wondering!

First night at Lavender Hotel
Author: firecat69 ┬╗ Wed 11 Nov, 2009 3:39 am

For some strange reason my post has disappeared. So here it is again!!!

Seemed like a good time to check out the new Lavender Hotel in Chiang Mai, So I packed up my favorite boy( just in case) from Bangkok and headed to Chiang Mai on Tuesday.

Arrived airport 2pm and met promptly by Car from Hotel where check in was fast. I had reserved a Deluxe Queen bedded Room. The room had been renovated and was clean and bright. However the bathroom certainly had see better days and toilet was leaking.

Not a good start but I advised front desk and suggested a possible room change while we headed off to check out the Massage Facilities.

The public areas of the massage club were quite nice and there were about 12 boys to choose from at 3pm. We made our choices and headed off to our respective rooms. The rooms are renovated Hotel rooms. Well done with regular beds and pillows and ensuite bathroom.

My massage was excellent although amateurish. It was sensual and enjoyable. The happy ending not as complete as I might have liked but then I choose a straight boy it seems. Still no complaints because boy did everything within his own constraints to make the hour fun. High marks for the total experience and really nice massage room. My friend from Bangkok said his massage was ok but the fun afterwards was great with a horney Gay Boy.LOL

We went out for a meal at a forgettable restaurant and then headed back to the Hotel. Decided to checkout the Pool which is small but quite nice. Nice loungers and Bar and best of all the hang out place for the boys of Power Boys ( GoGo Club downstairs)

Lot of really nice eye candy and probably will lead to some early evening fun tonight. Last night we just watched.

Power Boys opened at 9pm and we got there a few minutes after. Club is on lower level of Hotel. Beautiful room , well lit stage and good music at a reasonable level. No smoking.

About 22 boys on stage and lo and behold they were dancing. And they danced whenever on stage and rotation of boy was constant. Very well done. Overall the most combination of swimmer, and gymnast bodies I had seen in a long time. I would say no stunners from a facial perspective but many from a beautiful body experience. I don't mean Tawan type boys . These are boys who have naturally lean and worked out bodies with nice muscle tone. The fact that they are constantly moving makes their bodies stand out even more.

The bad news for me was that the boys I focused on the most were straight and not willing to Bottom or so they said. I had already focused on the young Mamasan who seated us so I was quite sure I would have some fun later. The show started at 10pm Lots of costumes and lip synching. Not my cup of tea but very well done.

Show was lasting too long so I told young mamasan, lets go upstairs. He was out of his uniform and back in 5 minutes. What a nice thing. Leave club , get into elevator and in room in 3 minutes. Boy delivered on all promises.

Back down to Club where 2nd show was in progress. This show had some simulated sex and erotic skits. My boy from Bangkok had focused on a boy so I told him to head upstairs and have fun while I watched the show. He did just that.

When the show finished the boys were back on stage and dancing. The club was not crowded but a steady flow of customers and it was a Tuesday night.

The fact that everything was in the same building made the day really fun. Massage in the afternoon, pool boys in the early evening.Go Go Bar with attractive boys and your room just 2 or 3 minutes away. Who could ask for more.

I have to be honest, I was not paying a lot of attention to prices. However the 1 hour massage was 600 baht, tip at your discretion.

The pool bar prices were I think 40 baht for sodas and 80 baht for beers. The club had a fairly extensive drink menu which ran from 120- 300 baht for ice cream drinks. The off fee for my mamasan was 500 and I think regular buys are 300 but it might be 400.

By the way . Our room was changed and upgraded and very nice. More reports tomorrow and will check out Adams Apple.


Hey, Dickhead...looks like fun, no?? I'll buy you a beer at the pool when I'm in town. You can bring your Rosary Beads and say 10 'Hail Mary''s'.

[bkkguy]

If the mothers and fathers of Chiang Mai kids that are gay see that there is a quality, out-in-the-open respectable establishment they may very well be MORE likely to tolerate it.

explain to me exactly how you think parents of gay kids are going to be impressed by a hotel targeting sex tourist to use the commercial sex massage and commercial sex go-go bar they have conveniently available in house - apart from the obvious job opportunities for the kids when they reach legal age?

an upmarket whorehouse is still a whorehouse - and most parents don't see such venues - gay or straight - as assets for their community or suitable workplaces for their kids or suitable venues for their kids to visit!

bkkguy

[TrongpaiExpat]

My massage was excellent although amateurish. It was sensual and enjoyable. The happy ending not as complete as I might have liked but then I choose a straight boy it seems. Still no complaints because boy did everything

From someone that thinks that Chiang Mai's newest whore and massage house is a boost to the quality of life in the city and just a fine thing for everyone, I would expect some real explicit details not just a happy ending not as complete as your might have liked.

Funny, how many farangs come to the conclusion their money boy is not gay based on a paid sexual encounter. There are other reasons.

I guess we'll have to wait until Latintopxx stays here and bends some brown ass over the banister for 300B while eating a plate of som tam to get some good details.

[Brad the Impala]

I guess we'll have to wait until Latintopxx stays here and bends some brown ass over the banister for 300B while eating a plate of som tam to get some good details.

:rolling:

Don't count on it.

I like the avatar. The bunny thing was getting tired, anyway.

e: Grand Opening Events Lavender Nov 20-22
Author: TrongpaiExpat ┬╗ Wed 25 Nov, 2009 8:31 am

jacklipton wrote:
My massage was excellent although amateurish. It was sensual and enjoyable. The happy ending not as complete as I might have liked but then I choose a straight boy it seems. Still no complaints because boy did everything


From someone that thinks that Chiang Mai's newest whore and massage house is a boost to the quality of life in the city and just a fine thing for everyone, I would expect some real explicit details not just a happy ending not as complete as your might have liked.

Funny, how many farangs come to the conclusion their money boy is not gay based on a paid sexual encounter. There are other reasons.

I guess we'll have to wait until Latintopxx stays here and bends some brown ass over the banister for 300B while eating a plate of som tam to get some good details.


jacklipton wrote:
My massage was excellent although amateurish. It was sensual and enjoyable. The happy ending not as complete as I might have liked but then I choose a straight boy it seems. Still no complaints because boy did everything

TrongpaiExpat...I didn't write the passage you attribute to me above...it was a quote I pasted on someone else's response to me.

My point is that if you're going to have a 'whorehouse' it might as well be a nice one that isn't a rat trap. :8(

explain to me exactly how you think parents of gay kids are going to be impressed by a hotel targeting sex tourist to use the commercial sex massage and commercial sex go-go bar they have conveniently available in house - apart from the obvious job opportunities for the kids when they reach legal age?

an upmarket whorehouse is still a whorehouse - and most parents don't see such venues - gay or straight - as assets for their community or suitable workplaces for their kids or suitable venues for their kids to visit!

If it is as you say, why do you think these places- for girl and for boy- exist here in this country? And why do they constitute the second largest source of nonagricultural foreign income? This didn't happen in a vacuum and it didn't happen overnight. If you've ever been to Hua Hin you know that, despite the wholesome image the town tries to project in the King's primary home area, you are hit with a blast of prostitute-laden beer bars for solid blocks down in the touristy areas. There's no escaping it.

I'm sorry, but go go bars and beer bars with girls are a staple of Thai society and if we allow the prudes- the same ones that would push all alcohol sales into the same dark corners of town that the boy bars inhabit- to call all the shots they will get rid of it anyway. Listen, this isn't the Vatican here (ok, bad example! but you know what I mean). Getting gay venues into respectable locations and delivering a quality experience- good dancing/entertainment, great food and drink, fantastic massages- is admirable and shouldn't be shouted down because they are at least ATTEMPTING to go upmarket.

Why is a DOWNmarket whorehouse totally okay with you?? It doesn't make any sense..."um, I want all the whorehouses in the seediest part of town, in the most disgusting old buildings because that's will make the poohbahs HAPPY!!! And they'll let us stay forever and they'll never bother us!! They KNOW their kids will be safe and sound from the perverted homosexuals that creep into TOWN!" That seems to be what your really saying by ommision...

If it is as you say, why do you think these places- for girl and for boy- exist here in this country?


commercial sex venues exist because there are people willing to work in them and customers that want to visit them - but I don't understand what the existence of commercial sex venues has to do with Chiang Mai residents being conned into thinking that LL is a "respectable establishment" suitable for their gay kids



And why do they constitute the second largest source of nonagricultural foreign income?


78.27% of statistics are made up on the spot and without a reference it can be assumed that this is the case here!



I'm sorry, but go go bars and beer bars with girls are a staple of Thai society

while commercial sex is a staple for Thais I don't really see much to support your statement for Thai customers in non-tourist areas



Getting gay venues into respectable locations and delivering a quality experience- good dancing/entertainment, great food and drink, fantastic massages- is admirable and shouldn't be shouted down because they are at least ATTEMPTING to go upmarket.


gay does not just mean commercial sex - I have been to and seen advertised many upmarket gay venues and gay resorts in very respectable locations, the difference is they are not whorehouses

and I know many upmarket whorehouses in Thailand serving Thai clients - but I am sure their customers do not what their kids working or visiting there and don't want them opening next to their house or local temple!



Why is a DOWNmarket whorehouse totally okay with you??


despite what you may think I am "really saying by ommision" I didn't comment on or imply anything about the acceptability or otherwise of downmarket whorehouses

bkkguy

Re: Grand Opening Events Lavender Nov 20-22
Author: dreaded ned ┬╗ Sat 28 Nov, 2009 7:35 am

jacklipton wrote:
If it is as you say, why do you think these places- for girl and for boy- exist here in this country?


commercial sex venues exist because there are people willing to work in them and customers that want to visit them - but I don't understand what the existence of commercial sex venues has to do with Chiang Mai residents being conned into thinking that LL is a "respectable establishment" suitable for their gay kids

jacklipton wrote:
And why do they constitute the second largest source of nonagricultural foreign income?


78.27% of statistics are made up on the spot and without a reference it can be assumed that this is the case here!

jacklipton wrote:
I'm sorry, but go go bars and beer bars with girls are a staple of Thai society

while commercial sex is a staple for Thais I don't really see much to support your statement for Thai customers in non-tourist areas

jacklipton wrote:
Getting gay venues into respectable locations and delivering a quality experience- good dancing/entertainment, great food and drink, fantastic massages- is admirable and shouldn't be shouted down because they are at least ATTEMPTING to go upmarket.


gay does not just mean commercial sex - I have been to and seen advertised many upmarket gay venues and gay resorts in very respectable locations, the difference is they are not whorehouses

and I know many upmarket whorehouses in Thailand serving Thai clients - but I am sure their customers do not what their kids working or visiting there and don't want them opening next to their house or local temple!

jacklipton wrote:
Why is a DOWNmarket whorehouse totally okay with you??


despite what you may think I am "really saying by ommision" I didn't comment on or imply anything about the acceptability or otherwise of downmarket whorehouses

bkkguy

Can you tell me WHY you suddenly switched over to an avatar (and pilfered one of my all time heros, Dreaded Ned's handle) that you haven't used in in FIVE years to reply to a post you did as BKKGUY? Moderator, is this guy another Beach Bunny/Dickhead/LMTU type??

Your points:

Bringing a gay venue such as LL upmarket has the tangental effect of improving the overall PERCEPTION of gay venues. It does NOT mean empirically that all m's and d's of gay kids want them to flock there, only that they will be LESS disappointed than finding them in dark sois, in the seedy parts of town. Baby steps here, bkkguy.

(Personal note: I don't see how it follows that a parent would be automatically inclined to look down on their kid's choice of livelihood, given this country's history. That's a judeo-christian bullshit mindset that I could blow away anytime we had the opportunity to discuss it. It's a horseshit argument from someone who frequents a forum dedicated to finding young guys to screw for money)


78.27% of statistics are made up on the spot and without a reference it can be assumed that this is the case here!

I never gave a 'statistic', bkkguy, I stated an obvious fact that common sense and just being alive here will suggest.


Tourist numbers have grown from 336,000 foreign visitors and 54,000 R&R soldiers in 1967[2] to over 14 million international guests visiting Thailand in 2007. The average duration of their stay in 2007 was 9.19 days, generating an estimated 547,782 million Thai baht, around 11 billion Euro.[4]


In Thai society, visiting prostitutes is considered common - but not necessarily acceptable - behavior for men. Many women believe the existence of prostitution reduces the incidence of rape [1] . Estimates of the number of prostitutes in Thailand vary widely and are subject to controversy. One estimate published in 2003 placed the trade at US$ 4.3 billion per year, about three percent of the Thai economy.[2]

If you really want to dispute that after raw tourism that the combined income from massages and sex trade don't come in second then I'll just let my assertion stand as is.


while commercial sex is a staple for Thais I don't really see much to support your statement for Thai customers in non-tourist areas

Chiang Mai is hardly a non-tourist area...it's the 4th largest commercialized GAY sex destination in the world.


gay does not just mean commercial sex - I have been to and seen advertised many upmarket gay venues and gay resorts in very respectable locations, the difference is they are not whorehouses

Neither does LL need to be a venue for 'commercialized sex'. Do you REALLY think it's not possible to visit the offerings and not engage in buying sex there? You can get a massage, go to a show, admire the beauty and people watch- just like people do in Bkk and Pattaya.

How is a hotel with a go go bar downstairs a 'whorehouse' different than a go go bar with 8 short time hotels within 10 metres of their front door??


and I know many upmarket whorehouses in Thailand serving Thai clients - but I am sure their customers do not what their kids working or visiting there and don't want them opening next to their house or local temple!
(PS- tell me more about those Thai-only places!)


Which home or temple was LL opened next to??


despite what you may think I am "really saying by ommision" I didn't comment on or imply anything about the acceptability or otherwise of downmarket whorehouses
The downmarket whorehouses extend their gratitude.

[Bob]

I have nothing against downscale or upscale commercial sex places but my view is that the comments expressed by Dreaded Ned (or BKKguy or whoever the poster may be) are more accurate in my opinion. The falang that spend a fair amount of their time within small areas of Pattaya, Bangkok, Phuket, or Chiangmai seem to come to the conclusion that commericialized sex joints (gay and/or straight) are a significant part of what Thailand is about and that the Thais generally think they're acceptable parts of their society. I personally don't believe either proposition is true. But, frankly, it doesn't matter what I or other falang think and it'd be interesting to see an unbiased poll of average Thai citizens regarding those issues.

[Brad the Impala]

It's a horseshit argument from someone who frequents a forum dedicated to finding young guys to screw for money)

This forum is not "dedicated" to that. There are a number of posts and posters here who are able to see beyond the end of their own or anyone else's cock, and who do not assume that money is the only attribute that they bring to the table.




Chiang Mai is hardly a non-tourist area...it's the 4th largest commercialized GAY sex destination in the world.


What is the source/basis of this unlikely statistic?

[Bob]

Chiang Mai is hardly a non-tourist area...it's the 4th largest commercialized GAY sex destination in the world.

What is the source/basis of this unlikely statistic?

4th largest commercialized gay sex destination in the world? I doubt that but I have not seen any statistics either way. Maybe he meant the fourth largest in Thailand?

We've got a couple of gay saunas, five gay (gogo-type) bars, more than a dozen gay massage venues, and a smattering of other "gay" places which aren't really commercialized sex operations. The gay scene here isn't insignificant (especially to gays) but, overall, it's a very small part of what Chiangmai is all about.

[TrongpaiExpat]

...................................

Dreaded Ned?, is this the once famous dreaded ned? I though you died? Thinking of restarting your old message board? You can take LMTU and Dickhead for starters.

jacklipton wrote:
It's a horseshit argument from someone who frequents a forum dedicated to finding young guys to screw for money)


This forum is not "dedicated" to that. There are a number of posts and posters here who are able to see beyond the end of their own or anyone else's cock, and who do not assume that money is the only attribute that they bring to the table.

That was an unfortunate slip on my part- Freudian Slip? My humblest apology. I have no idea what I was thinking when I wrote that.


Jacklipton wrote:

Chiang Mai is hardly a non-tourist area...it's the 4th largest commercialized GAY sex destination in the world.


What is the source/basis of this unlikely statistic?

I'm sorry for the leap here as well. I meant to say 'in Thailand'. I hope that passes muster. I guess you can put all the other spots in the world where gay prostitution is somewhat accepted in and around the Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket and Chiang Mai order- though, based on my experience, Chiang Mai is a far busier gay venue than Phuket- in retrospect I'd flip them on that order [and if someone can kindly point out anywhere else on the globe where gay prostitution is so prevalent and acceptable with no qualms I would love to know more about them ;-)].

My point was set against the Bkkguy/Dreaded Ned point that Chiang Mai could be lumped into the non-tourist area category. Would you concede that Chiang Mai is a bonafide tourist destination with a somewhat active commercial gay scene?

I'm at a loss to contest this anymore. Lavender Lanna Hotel exists and it will continue to make its way on the Chiang Mai gay scene. You guys that have a problem with that, as bizarre as it may be considering the content of this particular site, can either support it and appreciate whatever it has to offer or you can shoot spitwads from the back of class because it technically has complimentary product offerings to serve its clientele under one roof. Now if that bothers you, that's your right, but short of blowing up the hotel I don't see how constructive it is to demonize it or cast aspersions on the people that took the chance to undertake it.

I think LMTU/Beach Bunny/Dickhead/bkkguy(?)/Dreaded Ned(?) is completely within rights to feel as he does, but what does any reasonable person expect the proprietors to do at this point? What is your constructive advice if you have an issue with the concept given that it's already open and has apparently been received by the gay community as a positive gay scene contribution???

The second guessing seems so petty and knitpicking given the reality of the hotel's existence.

That was an unfortunate slip on my part- Freudian Slip? My humblest apology. I have no idea what I was thinking when I wrote that.

Thought you were on CFS? :blackeye:


and if someone can kindly point out anywhere else on the globe where gay prostitution is so prevalent and acceptable with no qualms I would love to know more about them ;-)

I think they have the market cornered.

Ultimately who has the most money & connections will end up deciding this issue, just like everything else.

[Brad the Impala]

[quote]jacklipton wrote:
It's a horseshit argument from someone who frequents a forum dedicated to finding young guys to screw for money)


This forum is not "dedicated" to that. There are a number of posts and posters here who are able to see beyond the end of their own or anyone else's cock, and who do not assume that money is the only attribute that they bring to the table.

That was an unfortunate slip on my part- Freudian Slip? My humblest apology. I have no idea what I was thinking when I wrote that.


Jacklipton wrote:

Chiang Mai is hardly a non-tourist area...it's the 4th largest commercialized GAY sex destination in the world.


What is the source/basis of this unlikely statistic?

I'm sorry for the leap here as well. I meant to say 'in Thailand'[/quote:24wmwb8r]

Would you be available to give lessons in graciousness when corrected, to one of our regular posters?

Would you be available to give lessons in graciousness when corrected, to one of our regular posters?

Sure...though my friends say I seem to have a way of saying 'fuck off' in between the lines...or maybe that's your point???

God knows I'm wrong enough all too often. I'm shocked at how much the obvious gets by me!