big trouble 2

[giggsy]

[youtube:26b9x389]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWmv9o_14rE[/youtube:26b9x389]

[youtube:26b9x389]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhuXUdBmej8[/youtube:26b9x389]

[youtube:26b9x389]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gamMhnultLs[/youtube:26b9x389]

[youtube:26b9x389]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HASCptpglk0[/youtube:26b9x389]

[youtube:26b9x389]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7EmXPyQL1Q[/youtube:26b9x389]

[cdnmatt]

Thanks for the update! NIce series to watch.

[Michael]

Many thanks for taking the trouble to post these videos. They make for uncomfortable watching. I'm sure that many of the scenes (except for the Thai version of justice) could easily be found on the streets of my home country.
The Thai version of justice is what keeps my home country away from Thailand.

The first video on this thread quotes 288 Britons as having "been killed" in Thailand in the last year. I don't think that figure is credible. I can believe that 288 Britons died in Thailand, mostly of old age or drug habits, but "been killed" is hardly credible ... or am I naive?

The first video on this thread quotes 288 Britons as having "been killed" in Thailand in the last year. I don't think that figure is credible. I can believe that 288 Britons died in Thailand, mostly of old age or drug habits, but "been killed" is hardly credible ... or am I naive?

You're not naive. This is the video equivalent of a News of the World tabloid piece.

[ceejay]

The first video on this thread quotes 288 Britons as having "been killed" in Thailand in the last year. I don't think that figure is credible. I can believe that 288 Britons died in Thailand, mostly of old age or drug habits, but "been killed" is hardly credible ... or am I naive?
This from the Foreign Office website:

Around 812,000 British nationals visited Thailand in 2008 (Source: Tourism Authority of Thailand). 843 British nationals required consular assistance in Thailand in the period 01 April 2008 тАУ 31 March 2009 for the following types of incident; deaths (288 cases); hospitalisations (198 cases); and arrests, for a variety of offences (202 cases). During this period assistance was also requested with regard to lost or stolen passports (774 cases). The majority of consular cases occur in Bangkok, Pattaya and Koh Samui.

288 dying is not the same thing at all as 288 being killed. There have been 6 murders of British national since January 2009. I guess that road traffic accidents account for more killed than that. Most of them will be natural causes including a fair few from old age, considering the large expat population. In sum, these figures present a very different picture to the one in the documentary.

[Beachlover]

Thanks for posting this... it was entertaining.

Not as entertaining as the first episode but still pretty cool.

[Beachlover]

Anyone see this article?...

Gotta say... the image created by the words "Swiss couple flee jet ski operator in terror" and "threatened with beating and rape" and "escorted to the airport by a consular representative " and "woman was visibly shaking in the departure area" really doesn't paint a flattering picture.

ww.andrew-drummond.com/2009/09/15/swiss-couple-flee-jet-ski-operator-in-terror-chaweng/

The report wasn't intended to paint a flattering picture. In fact, it was intended to paint just the opposite -- in as lurid a fashion as possible.

as soon as u see ww.andrew-drummond.com, there really isnt a need to open the link to know what the tone of the article will be like

[cdnmatt]

I honestly think Thailand has been getting treated a little unfairly over the past while. And it's only because it's one of the most popular tourist destinations in the world, so people who have no experience traveling, end up going to Thailand for their very first out of country trip. So they naturally don't yet know the common sense basics of how to conduct themselves in a foreign country, then get all flustered when they run into a problem. Well, no shit... Then they cry to the newspapers, and we get kinky TV series like this.

When I first started traveling, I got myself involved in all sorts of situations that I had no right being in. I should probably be dead a few times over, actually. But hey, that's just all part of the learning experience, now I'm the wiser for it, and don't tend to have problems while traveling anymore.

For example, spend a month in Barbados or Jamaica, and I bet Thailand ends up looking pretty tame and peaceful. The one major difference with Thailand compared to other countries is the police force seems to be more of a for-profit mafia organization than an actual police force. But if you go in knowing that, conduct yourself accordingly, and it's fine.

as soon as u see ww.andrew-drummond.com, there really isnt a need to open the link to know what the tone of the article will be like

Or even as soon as you see Andrew Drummond!

[zinzone]

Many thanks Giggsy for posting the 2nd in this series and I look forward to the next instalment.

In my opinion it is Brits abroad who come out worst in this latest film.
Arrogant and loud mouthed drunkards is the image portrayed.

Arrogance too from Mischa and her family, as despite the fact she admits to being in possession of an illegal drug, I see no remorse whatsover.

The one called Sonny, who is locked up for credit card offences, portrays himself as a victim with no evidence against him, yet the truth is different see:


http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Brits-Cha ... 70440.html (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Brits-Charged-Atm-Scam-t170440.html)


The kind of fraud he and his father were perpetrating was not only on a large scale but caused untold problems for those that suffer by their criminality.

At least the Brits portrayed in a poor light from the film appear to be mainly straights, as a general rule gays and in our bars we know how to behave ourselves unlike these stupid straight ones in the likes of walking street.
The film also showed what some of the walking street "katoeys" get up to and it is a pity the commentary referred to them as ladyboys but I suppose easier to do that then try to explain the difference between katoeys and L/B's.

Annoys me that the film is trying to give a good impression of the Pattaya black shirts, but those of us who actually live here know better.
Nevertheless another interesting documentary!

[PeterUK]

The film also showed what some of the walking street "katoeys" get up to and it is a pity the commentary referred to them as ladyboys but I suppose easier to do that then try to explain the difference between katoeys and L/B's.


What is the difference? I use the two words interchangeably.

[Beachlover]

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Brits-Cha ... 70440.html (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Brits-Charged-Atm-Scam-t170440.html)


The kind of fraud he and his father were perpetrating was not only on a large scale but caused untold problems for those that suffer by their criminality.


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From: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Brits-Cha ... 70440.html (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Brits-Charged-Atm-Scam-t170440.html)

The three were charged with cheating by using fake electronic cards. "The three today signed papers acknowledging the charges," Capt Supachai said.

He added that they are now being held at Phuket Provincial Court.

The baby girl, who police did not name, has been handed over to the British embassy to be returned to the UK.

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Geez... what a completely fucked up situation.

The whole episode is outrageous. These people come to Thailand to take advantage of the well-known but illegal activities of girly bars and prostitution, and then expect that they still have the right to complain about scams. They are completely compromised by taking part in those illegal activities and have therefore forfeited the right to complain about any other illegal activity. Isn't that right, Beach Bunny?

[zinzone]

The film also showed what some of the walking street "katoeys" get up to and it is a pity the commentary referred to them as ladyboys but I suppose easier to do that then try to explain the difference between katoeys and L/B's.


What is the difference? I use the two words interchangeably.


Yes-a katoey is often referred to as a ladyboy but is a male dressed as and desperate to be a woman usually chasing after straight men.
Katoeys are often unstable and have a reputation for theft etc, and frequent the likes of Beach Road and Walking Street.
A lady-boy is usually both "fem" and gay but is not a katoey.

-Just my attempt at definition and you don't have to agree with it!

The whole episode is outrageous. These people come to Thailand to take advantage of the well-known but illegal activities of girly bars and prostitution, and then expect that they still have the right to complain about scams. They are completely compromised by taking part in those illegal activities and have therefore forfeited the right to complain about any other illegal activity. Isn't that right, Beach Bunny?

You would make a great BIB...........

:cheers:

[Koh Samui Luv]

he-he

Or even as soon as you see Andrew Drummond!I know what you mean. I have exactly the same reaction when I see the poster is Gone Fishing.

[Beachlover]

The producer already fled Thailand. He has been very open about it all and simply said he doesn't want to front these accusations in person.

http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2009/09/ ... ithdrawal/ (http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2009/09/21/camera-director-of-big-trouble-in-thailand-makes-tactical-withdrawal/)

[thaiguest]

Many thanks Giggsy for posting the 2nd in this series and I look forward to the next instalment.

In my opinion it is Brits abroad who come out worst in this latest film.
Arrogant and loud mouthed drunkards is the image portrayed.

Arrogance too from Mischa and her family, as despite the fact she admits to being in possession of an illegal drug, I see no remorse whatsover.

The one called Sonny, who is locked up for credit card offences, portrays himself as a victim with no evidence against him, yet the truth is different see:


http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Brits-Cha ... 70440.html (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Brits-Charged-Atm-Scam-t170440.html)
But the greatest arrogance is from the black shirts. This tabloid treatment of the seedy/violent side of Thailand could not be done without the Tourist police. It's actually a 'let's follow the tourist police' junket. And man can they talk! Anyone would think the whole fabric of Thai society depends on them. I wonder do the Thai authorities appreciate the damage this series is doing to the country curtesy of the foreigners in the tourist police? I wonder is there a financial kick-back as well as all the black shirt ego salving?


The kind of fraud he and his father were perpetrating was not only on a large scale but caused untold problems for those that suffer by their criminality.

At least the Brits portrayed in a poor light from the film appear to be mainly straights, as a general rule gays and in our bars we know how to behave ourselves unlike these stupid straight ones in the likes of walking street.
The film also showed what some of the walking street "katoeys" get up to and it is a pity the commentary referred to them as ladyboys but I suppose easier to do that then try to explain the difference between katoeys and L/B's.

Annoys me that the film is trying to give a good impression of the Pattaya black shirts, but those of us who actually live here know better.
Nevertheless another interesting documentary!

The whole episode is outrageous. These people come to Thailand to take advantage of the well-known but illegal activities of girly bars and prostitution, and then expect that they still have the right to complain about scams. They are completely compromised by taking part in those illegal activities and have therefore forfeited the right to complain about any other illegal activity. Isn't that right, Beach Bunny?You would make a great BIB...........
:cheers:Thanks for the suggestion. Now that I'm actually in Pattaya I think it would be rather a lark to join the tourist police volunteers. If you don't see me posting for a while, you'll know where to find me!