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[cdnmatt]

Yes, Leo will go to Bangkok on his own again in a few weeks. We don't have 72 hours to spare at the moment, so I guess he'll just have to wait until we're settled into Vientiane, and he can go then. Still stupid...

Yes, I plan to cross the border legally. I'll get a 15 day tourist VISA upon entering Laos, and already have a 1 year business VISA lined up.

Basically last and only preperation left is figuring out how to cross that Nong Khai border without issue. I've contacted several immigration lawyers, and all have said they're unable to help. Next step is to contact local immigration directly, request leniency, and hope to hell I can somehow get a 3 day emergency VISA. I really don't feel like travelling on the highway without a VISA in my passport, because if I hit a checkpoint before getting to the order, it's technically 1 year in Thai jail. I'm blind plus will have the dogs with me, so going to jail isn't much of an option.

And no, I'm not going back to Canada without Leo. I decided that on September 17th, 2016 to be exact. That's when I was in the hospital just upon going blind, Leo and myself didn't really even know each other at the time, but for some reason he did a u-turn at that Laos border and came back to take care of me instead of going to visit his family and friends. That's when I promised both him and myself that the next time I'm on a plane to Canada, he'll be on the plane with me, and I intend to make good on that promise. It's his life dream to visit Canada.

However, it will be a good 4 month before he has a Canadian visitor VISA in his passport. About a month to gather all necessary documentation and get it translated into English. Then the posted processing time from the Canadian government is 38 business days, so say 2 months. However, due to his background, I highly doubt he's just going to sail through the application process, so let's say 3 months processing time. I'm confident I'll be able to get him a VISA, but I also know what I'm in for.

Again, people love to complain that Canada just lets anyone and everyone in, and that's simply not true. It's actually very difficult to get into Canada.

[justaguy]

Yes, Leo will go to Bangkok on his own again in a few weeks. We don't have 72 hours to spare at the moment, so I guess he'll just have to wait until we're settled into Vientiane, and he can go then. Still stupid...

Yes, I plan to cross the border legally. I'll get a 15 day tourist VISA upon entering Laos, and already have a 1 year business VISA lined up.

Basically last and only preperation left is figuring out how to cross that Nong Khai border without issue. I've contacted several immigration lawyers, and all have said they're unable to help. Next step is to contact local immigration directly, request leniency, and hope to hell I can somehow get a 3 day emergency VISA. I really don't feel like travelling on the highway without a VISA in my passport, because if I hit a checkpoint before getting to the order, it's technically 1 year in Thai jail. I'm blind plus will have the dogs with me, so going to jail isn't much of an option.

And no, I'm not going back to Canada without Leo. I decided that on September 17th, 2016 to be exact. That's when I was in the hospital just upon going blind, Leo and myself didn't really even know each other at the time, but for some reason he did a u-turn at that Laos border and came back to take care of me instead of going to visit his family and friends. That's when I promised both him and myself that the next time I'm on a plane to Canada, he'll be on the plane with me, and I intend to make good on that promise. It's his life dream to visit Canada.

However, it will be a good 4 month before he has a Canadian visitor VISA in his passport. About a month to gather all necessary documentation and get it translated into English. Then the posted processing time from the Canadian government is 38 business days, so say 2 months. However, due to his background, I highly doubt he's just going to sail through the application process, so let's say 3 months processing time. I'm confident I'll be able to get him a VISA, but I also know what I'm in for.

Again, people love to complain that Canada just lets anyone and everyone in, and that's simply not true. It's actually very difficult to get into Canada.

You have not at all done your homework did you ? First of all, there is no such thing as a 15 days tourist visa for Lao. Those are 30 days and will cost you as a Canadian 42 bucks. I was not suggesting you go to Canada alone, but with Leo. You are on a extensive overstay already, so staying a little bit longer might not hurt.

I am surprised no immigration lawyer was able to advise you, but I would like to stress again, that the best course of action in these cases are to get to the airport undetected and settle the overstay there. Again, there is a good chance, any landborder will turn you back with this kind of overstay. If you go to the KK immigration office, you will most definitely not be awarded an emergency visa, they will send you to the IDC, and you will remain there, until you can show them a ticket out to Canada, at which time, you will be escorted by immigration officers to your plane seat. So in any case, have 20K + a ticket to Canada on you if you attempt to request for leniency.

You have precious little options left I'm afraid, like I said, the best course of action is getting to the airport undetected (which shouldn't be a big issue) and settle your overstay there, pay 20K and receive a blacklisting from Thailand, how long depends on the number of days you actually were on overstay. In this case you have surrendered to the Authoroties, so the blacklisting would be:

>90 days < 1 year = 1 year
> 1 year = 3 years
> 3 years =5 years
> 5 years = 10 years

As Smiles pointed out, securing Leo a Canadian visa with you acting as a sponsor might be a bridge too far, as you are on an extensive overstay, and since they will want to see a copy of your passport and any relevant stamps and visas, they might decide not to award the visa on the basis that the sponsor is residing in Thailand illegally, but then again, they might not even care.

Good luck, I think you are going to need it.

Edit to add: There is no such thing as technically in jail for one year. If you hit a checkpoint you will end up in the same IDC for a period no longer as you provide a ticket out to Canada and pay the fine, in this case you indeed might be looking at a 10 year ban, providing you overstayed for over one year.

To get to lao, you need to travel over the highway,as going to KK immigration will get you back to Canada,not Lao, they deport people to their country of origin, not to Lao.

[christianpfc]

Which police station is responsible for what? I learnt the answer to this question in 2013 when I reported my passport stolen during Songkran. My local police station sent me to Silom, because that is where the theft took place. However Silom road is the border between police districts, so the first police station asked me if my passport was stolen on the right side or the left side of Silom road, because then I would have to report it to the other police station. Yes, I'm absolutely sure it was stolen on the right side, in your police district!

And no, I'm not going back to Canada without Leo. I decided that on September 17th, 2016 to be exact. That's when I was in the hospital just upon going blind, Leo and myself didn't really even know each other at the time, but for some reason he did a u-turn at that Laos border and came back to take care of me instead of going to visit his family and friends.

My underline. Contradicts everything I have experienced and heard from friends.
ChristianPFC says: after several years of being boyfriend with a Thai boy (and buying several mobile phones, motorbikes, cars, houses for boy and his friends and family, depending on their greediness and your financial means), you will get a status above that of the family dog.

[justaguy]

Which police station is responsible for what? I learnt the answer to this question in 2013 when I reported my passport stolen during Songkran. My local police station sent me to Silom, because that is where the theft took place. However Silom road is the border between police districts, so the first police station asked me if my passport was stolen on the right side or the left side of Silom road, because then I would have to report it to the other police station. Yes, I'm absolutely sure it was stolen on the right side, in your police district!


My underline. Contradicts everything I have experienced and heard from friends.
ChristianPFC says: after several years of being boyfriend with a Thai boy (and buying several mobile phones, motorbikes, cars, houses for boy and his friends and family, depending on their greediness and your financial means), you will get a status above that of the family dog.

Leo is not Thai, he is Lao, but granted, after being with a Lao guy for 14 years, and having had an affair with two more, I think the difference is not all that much.

However, the family of the boyfriend of 14 years most definitely is not what you describe, they are not at all greedy, and I have Always been welcomed by pretty much everyone that visits the house from time to time. And by the rest of the family, including the part that now lives in Buriram.

From the beginning I told my boyfriend, I love your family, but won't support them, and that works out nicely, as my boyfriend works, so has his own income, he can take care of his family as much as he wants (within limits), I give them the odd 5000 baht when I visit twice a year, and that is it.

[newalaan2]

My underline. Contradicts everything I have experienced and heard from friends.
ChristianPFC says: after several years of being boyfriend with a Thai boy (and buying several mobile phones, motorbikes, cars, houses for boy and his friends and family, depending on their greediness and your financial means), you will get a status above that of the family dog.

ChristianPFC can say what he likes, dramatic effect or not, although I agree with the exaggerated element you raise a good point on perceived Thai>farang relationships....but I'm pretty sure your underlying feeling is as per your original text.........and so it's pretty clear and probably stating the bleeding obvious to say that It does not depend on 'their' greediness and your financial means....it depends just how stupid, gullible and foolish you or the person involved are to let themselves attain the status just above the family dog by voluntarily giving these things to somebody who does not appreciate, deserve or earn them. To develop a relationship with a person of that ilk and be oblivious to the fact one is being taken for a fool or in a one-way only relationship is bad enough but to then carry on developing that useless one-way relationship and voluntarily hand over all this money, phones, motorbikes etc. you can only blame yourself not the 'Thai boy' who you allow to take advantage of you. I mean these Thai boys don't take or steal these things from gullible farangs, they are given them. If you have a relationship with somebody who regards you next to the family dog then that's your lookout, there are Thai boys 'out there' who are perfectly genuine, normal people who give and take as should be expected in a relationship.

Many things other people/farangs experience in Thailand contradict your experiences as at times you are, by your own admission as per your blog, woefully naïve, despite your fluency in the language and many years experience. I have heard such stories as you state above too, but I have also experienced and heard from people who have not fallen into that trap, I doubt the two members here who are most open about their lives in Thailand than the rest of us.....namely smiles and **cdnmatt would consider themselves to be, nor indeed are, only the next rung up from the family dog.

**Apologies to those who have yet to come around to accepting that cdnmatt is genuine/authentic.

Your further post since I started my reply regarding visa for overstay and quarantine for dogs are good points...however this a cdnmatt story and This Is Thailand.