Hmmm, sounds like you need Mrs. Marple!
Hmmm, sounds like you need Mrs. Marple!
MFAS wrote:
"Hmmm, sounds like you need Mrs. Marple!"
I don't think we do. These tales tellers always tell tall tales completely forgetting that the police and the insurance companies between them have hundreds of years of experience of this sort of thing. Inspector Arsenal of The Yard and Sergeant Fountainhall deduced the facts immediately.
christianpfc (January 18th, 2017), fountainhall (January 17th, 2017)
Don't believe the "rape" allegation at all - and to allege that a "Doctor confirmed I'd been raped" - well, what utter crap - how is that even possible.
All that could be confirmed by a Doctor is that some degree of anal trauma took place - which the likes of A447 not only consent to, but willingly and regularly pay good money for!
christianpfc (January 18th, 2017), Khor tose (January 17th, 2017)
I can't comment on this case but spiking of drinks do happen and they also happen in Thailand, quite frequently according to my female Thai friends with whom I was just hanging out. The intention is of course rape and most rape cases whether date rape or otherwise are usually unreported.
Last edited by sglad; January 17th, 2017 at 23:49.
This is not always possible especially in a big or crowded venue. Moreover the spiked drink is usually the third or fourth or fifth drink you've had when you're not at your most alert.
I think people are more susceptible to foul play when they go out clubbing or drinking alone or give the impression that no one is looking out for them. I don't usually go out alone but the few times that I have I think I have been kept out of harm's way because I give off the impression that I know my way about by speaking Thai, having genuine Thai and other friends locally who would Whatsapp/Line me from time to time, friends whom I talk about, drinking in moderation etc. I don't know but I think people who drink too much, brag too much, appear to lack self control are more at risk? I guess sometimes it's just plain old bad luck too.
Yes, we know.
It happenned to me - in Torremolinos of all places, and for those familar with the area - in a gay bar in La Noglera on the upstairs floor across from where Arcos and La Noche were.
However, as someone pointed out, the intention (which was not accomplished) was to rob me and certainly not to rob and rape me.
The only way a middle aged guy is going to get bummed by boys from a gay bar anywhere in the world is by paying them - and that's why I am extremely sceptical of the story related by the 2 guys
Yeah but these guys are not middle aged but in their early thirties? And the alleged victim Gerald Drumgoole is not bad looking although age and looks are usually immaterial in rape cases - women in their seventies have been raped. I might have missed it but there's also no description of the alleged rapists. The report didn't say the attackers were gay or the victims met them in a gay bar or were sex workers in a gay bar or whether the attackers were "boys" or ladyboys. "The last thing the couple remember is being in a bar on Phuket’s popular tourist strip of Bangla Road." No description of the perpetrator(s) at all.
From The Phuket Gazette:
http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-...d-Phuket/66130The couple, who were named by Belfast Live as Gerald Drumgoole and Michael Burnett, said they were attacked and robbed of 400 pounds and their iPhones after their drinks were spiked at a Phuket bar on New Year's Eve. However, they did not reveal the name of the bar, the hotel they were staying at, or who they believe was behind the incident.
Last edited by sglad; January 18th, 2017 at 05:36.
OK then - if the suggestion is that these 2 gay "husbands" had their drinks spiked in a str8 bar and were set upon by str8 guys who not only robbed them but after having done so took a notion to fuck one of them up the bunghole instead of just making off with the money then I find that even more implausible.
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This photo is from another report of the incident that appeared yesterday on this site - http://www.towleroad.com/2017/01/vacation-thailand/
Now it seems to me that these are quite strapping lads. If it is true that their drinks were spiked, they would have been in no condition to walk back to their hotel. So they would have been escorted, presumably by their attackers. Thai guys are not generally known as 'heavies'. I expect at least two and maybe three guys would have been needed to get each one of them back. As I asked before, how is it possible that no-one in the hotel or the security cameras failed to pick this up?
Secondly. in this new article there is the comment -
Err - odd that the original article states this -After returning home last Wednesday, the couple underwent a medical exam by their doctor who confirmed they had been raped.
So which was it, guys? One got raped - or both got raped?‘My husband is still in shock and he feels so helpless because he wasn’t there to help me when I was being raped.’
And then there is the matter of the hospital. They continue to say the insurance company sent them to a private hospital instead of a public one which "is very unusual". Yet Phuket only has two hospitals and both, I understand, are private. So where did the public hospital idea come from?
And the key question raised by Scottish still has not been answered. Of course date rape occurs in Thailand as it does elsewhere. If it happens to women, the motive is almost always rape with some being rape and robbery. But if it happens (much more rare) with men, the motive is surely far more robbery than sex. If the Irish couple were legless by the time they got to their room, it would have been a simple matter to rob them of whatever was on their persons and in the room and then disappear. Seriously, given that there were probably six attackers, how many Thai guys would want to rape large early 30s farang?
But there is another question: how did the intruders actually get into the room? Most hotels these days have keycards with no indication on them on the floor or room number. It is therefore reasonable to assume that whichever Blue Sky establishment they stayed at did not have keys with room numbers. So even though the attackers could have found the key in one of the guy's pocket - how did they find the room?
And then the new article confirms they "had no money after being robbed." So how on earth did they live for those five days before one of the families contacted the British Embassy?
How are we doing Inspector arsenal?
Last edited by fountainhall; January 18th, 2017 at 08:44.