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Thread: A future for Soi Pratuchai?

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    A future for Soi Pratuchai?

    Dreamboys staff had a meeting recently at which it was announced that Soi Pratuchai will shut down within 2 years. That's all I know. Cannot provide any details or more info.


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    Re: A future for Soi Pratuchai?

    Is Soi Pratuchai the soi in Bangkok off of Silom with a lot of gay venues, including Dream Boys?

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    Re: A future for Soi Pratuchai?

    I was talking to the German owner of Dreamboys and he indicated he would probably retire soon, as his health was failing and in any case, he didn't need the money. So maybe he announced to his staff that the end is nigh.

    Once his two bars close, then I think that will be the end of the soi, as the other bars seem incapable of attracting large Chinese tour groups.

    Unless someone with a good head for business takes over the two bars.

    Then again, maybe the soi is up for redevelopment.

    I hope someone can dig a bit deeper and find out what's really going on. Or corner the German and ask him. He, of all people, would know.

    If the soi really is going to close, we'll soon know - he will quickly put his bars up for sale before word gets out and it's too late.

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    Re: A future for Soi Pratuchai?

    I do think the Soi is at the end of it's run however, that might not be a bad thing as it would likely cause a new area to do somthing interesting....My quess with the rate of developement Soi Twilight is worth much more than the gay venues on it.

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    Re: A future for Soi Pratuchai?

    Quote Originally Posted by werner View Post
    Is Soi Pratuchai the soi in Bangkok off of Silom with a lot of gay venues, including Dream Boys?
    It's actually off Suriwong - and, yes, it is where Dream Boys, Hotmale and other gogo bars are located. The announcement is interesting because at least two of the Boards have had recent threads re how Soi Twlight (as it is often called after the original Twilight gogo bar) can continue given the substantial reduction of western visitors looking to off boys and the increase in Chinese and other Asians only interested in just one drink and seeing the shows.

    Having viewed the soi as it rose and has fallen, I cannot see a future as part of Bangkok's gay scene. I suspect there is just not enough requirement for total redevelopment in upper Suriwing yet. So as earlier discussed, maybe it will morph for a while into a sort of Silom Soi 4 ( where Telephone and Balcony bars are located).

    Soi Twilight's decline comes as Silom Soi 4 thrives. If only the owners had a spark of innovation the Soi could perhaps continue for a few years longer. But for those looking for bars with boys - I cannot call them gogo bars! - there will still be the bars further down Suriwong not far from Tawan..

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    Re: A future for Soi Pratuchai?

    As fountainhall has mentioned there are a few bars where boys can be offed near Tawan namely Super A, Golden cock and Nature Boys.

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    Re: A future for Soi Pratuchai?

    Those are the very bars I hang out in whenever I go to Bangkok these days . Last visit back December /January I only went to Soi Twilight for the X-boys show then invariably ended up back in Soi Tawan.

    The only problem is, Super A, Natureboy and Golden Cock rarely have any customers - 9 times out of 10 I'm sitting there all alone. On the odd occasion a customer turns up at SuperA or Natureboy, they stick their head in the door then turn around and go somewhere else. I've yet to see a night time customer in Golden Cock.

    There's no way those bars would attract the cashed-up Chinese - they don't make it past Tawan - and for some reason the area is also avoided by farang.

    Perhaps they don't know it exists. In any case, they would find it a waste of time, as Natureboy rarely has more than 2 boys (!) and the guys at SuperA are rather unattractive. Also, their English is by and large non -existent.

    Golden Cock has some attractive guys but they only turn up for work when they feel like it.

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    Re: A future for Soi Pratuchai?

    Soit Twilight has an apt name - darkness will soon fall - permanently. Aside from what this or that bar may do, or perhaps bigger redevelopment plans, the business model has no future. Being a prostitute, especially working in a whore house, is now neither socially acceptable nor economically necessary for most Thai boys. Just look around the soi at the guys working there; aside from those from neighbouring countries the quality ain't what it was. And the numbers of those who might consider such a career is further being suppressed by the penal system as so many end up inside for drugs.

    Further factors affect the customer base. Despite what foreigners see in BKK or Patts, Thais have always been the vast majority of customers for the business (albeit in maybe cheaper places than Twilight). Again, social acceptability for Thais means everyone must be much more discreet - something now facilitated by the internet. For many Farangs the attraction of Thailand was it was cheap - well not anymore. Prices are up across the board both due to inflation and exchange rate issues (depending on one's provenance). And those Thai guys openly selling their arse now do so for a premium price.
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    Re: A future for Soi Pratuchai?

    Quote Originally Posted by BonTong View Post
    Being a prostitute, especially working in a whore house, is now neither socially acceptable nor economically necessary for most Thai boys.

    And those Thai guys openly selling their arse now do so for a premium price.
    Two remarks here.

    I understood from people who can know that the short time prize is pretty stable over the years. In Pattaya 1200 baht short time is possible and that is about the same prize as it was 10 years ago, when there were no apps (as I understood).

    I doubt many boys have better oppertunities now. Prostitution is the most easy way to have a monthly income with not too much work. Many boys only have primary education (this is not rare at all). They can only get boring, badly paid jobs, for 8 hours a day. Then end of month they receive their 10.000 baht salary. They can earn this amount also - and far more easily - by just taking 6 customers in a month. So 6 hours work can get them the same compared to 160 hours of work. Then I know what I would choose if I was a good looking Thai boy and I was facing these two options.

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    Re: A future for Soi Pratuchai?

    BonTong u must be very mistaken. Anyone who opens up their Grindr app in Pattaya will be flooded by offers of cheap paid sex....not sure what u mean by premium. Even for me BHT1000 is not outrageous. I do agree that the proliferation of hookup apps have decimated the gogo bars but I guess thats what disruptive technology does and its up to the bars to evolve and innovate of they want to stay in biz.

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